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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Aug 17, 2022

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Lowe's Companies Second Quarter 2022 earnings conference call. My name is Rob and I'll be your operator for today's call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the call over to Kate Pearlman, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Kate Pearlman
VP of Investor Relations, Lowe's

Thank you and good morning. Here with me today are Marvin Ellison, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Bill Boltz, our Executive Vice President, Merchandising, Joe McFarland, our Executive Vice President, Stores, and Brandon Sink, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I would like to remind you that our notice regarding forward-looking statements is included in our press release this morning, which can be found on Lowe's Investor Relations website. During this call, we will be making comments that are forward-looking, including our expectations for fiscal 2022. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks, uncertainties, and important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors, MD&A and other sections of our annual report on Form 10-K and our other SEC filings. Additionally, we'll be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures.

A reconciliation of these items to U.S. GAAP can be found on the quarterly earnings section of our investor relations website. Now, I'll turn the call over to Marvin.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Thank you, Kate. Good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, our total company comparable sales declined 0.3% while U.S. comps increased 0.2%. For the quarter, pro sales remained strong. In fact, this is the ninth consecutive quarter that we've driven double-digit pro growth. As a reminder, at Lowe's, 75% of our sales are driven by the DIY customer, while 25% of our sales is from the pro. While underlying home improvement trends remain strong, our DIY sales were lower than expected in the second quarter and the first half of the year. As I mentioned on our previous call, the timing of spring disproportionately impacts DIY sales, as many seasonal categories like lawn and garden are heavily concentrated in DIY.

In addition to spring arriving late, it also ended early, quickly moving from a cold winter to a hot summer in some regions. This shortened the planting season and pressured lawn and garden sales. Also, while we planned for a modest sector pullback this year as we lap outside DIY consumer demand, we now believe that certain categories, like patios and grills, are disproportionately impacted by the unprecedented demand from 2020 and 2021. This unprecedented demand was likely fueled by the combination of three rounds of government stimulus, an increase in consumer savings rate, and a temporary shift away from spending on services towards spending on goods, including home improvement products. These factors drove more discretionary purchases over the past two years than it was possible to precisely measure at the time.

Some of you have asked whether we're seeing consumers trade down in their purchase activity. At this point, we are not seeing indications of material trade down. If anything, we're seeing the opposite with continued strong demand for our new and innovative products at higher price points. Bill will provide more context on our customer spending trends later in the call. To summarize our DIY trends, despite slower sales in select discretionary categories like patios and grills, the DIY customer remains resilient, which reflects continued strong home improvement demand trends. Now, turning to pro. We continue to outperform the market, delivering growth of 13% and 37% on a two-year basis. We're particularly pleased with the momentum we're seeing with our pro loyalty program, MVPs Pro Rewards, which is designed to make every pro feel like an MVP regardless of the size of their business.

Since time is money for pros, one of the most valuable ways that we can serve them is by saving them time with enhanced fulfillment. Therefore, we are actively piloting convenient fulfillment options, including a new pro fulfillment center in Charlotte and gig network solutions that offer same-day delivery for both pro and DIY. Joe will provide a further update on our strategic initiatives to improve pro penetration later on the call. On Lowes.com, sales grew 7% this quarter, representing a sales penetration of nearly 10%. We're continuing to invest in omni-channel capabilities because we believe there's still tremendous runway for further growth ahead. In Canada, Q2 performance lagged the U.S. and as a reminder, because our Canadian business is more heavily weighted towards lumber, it disproportionately benefited from record high lumber prices last year. Let me now discuss our operating performance for the second quarter.

I'm particularly pleased with the operating discipline that we've developed across our business, which is demonstrated by our ability to improve operating margin once again, despite lower sales. During the quarter, operating margin expanded 12 basis points, and we delivered diluted earnings per share of $4.67, which is an increase of nearly 10% versus last year. The progress also reflects our team's disciplined focus on our perpetual productivity initiatives or PPI. Not only did PPI support our first half operating margin improvement, it will also help to drive operating leverage for the balance of the year and for the next several years. Joe will discuss the success of our PPI initiatives in more detail later in the call. I'd like to address some concerns that I've heard from our shareholders about the home improvement market.

I wanna begin by clarifying that the market dynamics that pressure the home builder are not necessarily the same market dynamics that pressure the home improvement retailer. At Lowe's, the three highest correlating factors of home improvement demand are home price appreciation, the age of the housing stock, and disposable personal income. While housing turnover is important, it does not index at the same rate as home price appreciation, housing age, and disposable personal income. While we acknowledge that housing turnover has slowed, home prices and home equity remains at record highs, which gives customers confidence that they will get a return on the investment that they make in their homes. Also importantly, those homes keep getting older.

More than half of the homes in the U.S. are over 40 years old, and millions more built at the peak of the housing boom in the early 2000s are now starting to turn 20 years old, which is a key inflection point for big-ticket repairs. In terms of disposable personal income, household wealth is still at an all-time high. Consumer savings are roughly $2.6 trillion higher than they were pre-pandemic, and 75% of that excess savings is concentrated in middle and high-income households who are more likely to be homeowners, which highlights another key benefit of our industry. Our core customer is the homeowner. In addition to having significantly more disposable income, most homeowners are benefiting from lower fixed mortgage rates.

And as low housing supply and high interest rates make moving less desirable, homeowners are motivated to invest in their current homes to fit their needs. This is one of the key reasons that home improvement can win in markets when housing turnover is strong and when it slows, as we saw in the mid-1990s, when home improvement spend grew despite rising interest rates and a slowdown in housing turnover. Now, shifting to trends in pro. We continuously survey our pros, and their confidence in their job prospects is the highest it's been in years. The pro is busier than ever, and the strength of the pro backlog speaks to the significant pent-up demand for their services.

In short, we are fortunate to operate in this retail sector, and despite the macro uncertainty and unprecedented seasonal demand the past two years, our long-term outlook for the home improvement industry and the pro customer remains positive. As I close, I would like to personally thank our associates for their hard work and dedication. In recognition of some of the cost pressures they are facing due to high inflation, we are providing an incremental $55 million in bonuses to our hourly frontline associates this quarter. These associates have the most important jobs in our company, and we deeply appreciate everything they do to serve our customers to deliver a best-in-class experience. With that, I'll turn the call over to Bill.

Bill Boltz
EVP of Merchandising, Lowe's

Thanks, Marvin, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, U.S. comparable sales were up 0.2%. I'd like to walk you through the trends that we are seeing in the business, beginning with our DIY results. As Marvin mentioned, we had a short spring, moving directly from winter to summer in many areas of the country, impacting demand for outdoor garden products like fertilizer, chemicals, and live nursery. After two years of outsized growth in home-related sales, we planned for sales to slow in certain categories this year, and our disciplined planning process enabled us to mitigate many of the inventory pressures you are seeing across the retail industry. Certain categories were still down more than expected, like patio furniture and outdoor grills, which is consistent with trends across the broader market.

Even within patio, our newly designed Origin 21 items sold out first in most stores, like our exclusive Brennfield egg chair that retailed at $628. Another interesting trend from the quarter is the ongoing demand for innovation, reflecting underlying consumer strength. Rather than seeing trade down, in many cases, we are seeing customers trade up, spending more to purchase the latest technology, like battery-powered products available in the EGO, Kobalt, CRAFTSMAN, and SKIL brands. In fact, one of our top-performing products this quarter was an EGO 56-volt self-propelled mower that retailed for over $700. This unit dramatically outperformed our sales forecast despite being one of the most expensive battery mowers in our assortment, proving what we have said before, that value doesn't have to be low priced.

In refrigeration, we continue to see consumers trade up to higher priced products in brands like KitchenAid, Samsung, and LG, with features and benefits that serve a busy family's lifestyle. While appliance sales were below our expectations, we continue to take incremental share and lead the market as the number one appliance retailer in the U.S. We also continue to source new products that make projects easier for our DIY-savvy customers, like our expanded STAINMASTER lineup, including laminate flooring, sheet vinyl, and tile, which are getting overwhelmingly positive customer feedback due to how easy they are to install and keep clean. How about our new board and batten product, a Lowe's exclusive? This new pre-sized and mitered molding makes it easy and cost-effective for the do-it-yourselfer to do highly intricate designs like wainscoting. For the pro, it saves them time on these jobs as well.

Customers can transform a wall in a day for less than $300. Across the store and within each of our merchandising categories, we offer value at all price points and feature leading products from our all-star brands like Trex, Owens Corning, John Deere, EGO, Honda, KitchenAid, Samsung, LG, Kohler, Moen, Whirlpool, Husqvarna and Ariens. Shifting gears now to our pro customer. We delivered broad-based and strong results with positive comps across rough plumbing, building materials, paint, electrical, millwork and hardware. We are pleased with the traction that we are making with this important customer, and we continue to optimize our pro assortments to ensure we offer the products pros need from the brands that they know and trust. This quarter, we launched EdenCrete, a liquid additive that improves the quality, durability, and sustainability of concrete projects.

We also launched the new stacked lithium battery technology in our line of FLEX cordless power tools, making Lowe's now the only destination to have this new battery technology available in both FLEX and DEWALT, which brings more power in a smaller package. In millwork, we also were the first to market with our own reliable stock exterior black trim vinyl window, an increasingly popular trend to give homes a more premium look, with some pros even buying pallets of these products before they even hit our shelves. We also added JELD-WEN pre-finished interior doors, which come pre-painted from the factory, saving pros the time and expense required to paint the door. These additions have further strengthened our portfolio of trusted pro brands like Bosch, Crescent, DEWALT, Eaton, Estwing, FastenMaster, FLEX, GRK, ITW, LESCO, Little Giant, LUFKIN, Mansfield, Marshalltown, Metabo, SharkBite, Simpson Strong-Tie, SPAX, Spyder and Warner.

In our lumber business, comps declined modestly as we cycled over record high prices in the previous year. However, unit volumes were up significantly year-over-year, which reflects the strong underlying project demand. Turning now to Lowes.com, sales grew 7%, building on top of the tremendous growth we have seen over the past few years. We continue to invest in the online user experience by expanding and enhancing our assortments, building out and improving our visualizer and configurator tools, and enhancing the delivery experience to make it easier for our customers to track their orders. As I close, I'd like to thank my entire merchandising team, along with our finance, inventory and supply chain teams for their disciplined inventory management and planning process in a complex retail environment.

Lastly, I'd also like to thank our vendor partners for their continued partnership and hard work to ensure our customers have the products they need for every home improvement project they tackle. Thank you, I'll now turn the call over to Joe.

Joe McFarland
EVP of Stores, Lowe's

Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Let me begin by expressing my appreciation for our associates. They delivered strong customer service and profitability this quarter due to their commitment to our perpetual productivity improvement initiatives, or PPI. Over the first half of the year, we have made meaningful strides. I would like to spend some time now discussing what we are focused on for the remainder of 2022, including how we continue to simplify our store processes. Earlier this year, we launched what we call Project Simple in our stores, one of our many PPI initiatives with a focus on further reducing daily duplicative tasks that distract from customer service and drive needless expense. In fact, as we continue rolling out Project Simple, we expect that it will eliminate over 80 non-productive hours per store per week in the second half.

In February, I discussed the launch of our game-changing new store inventory management system, or SIMS. While we are just six months into the implementation, we are already seeing strong results. With the improved inventory visibility, we are reducing non-productive hours that associates spend searching for product while also improving the customer shopping experience in store and online. In the second half, we will leverage SIMS for an exciting new feature, Prescriptive Pack Down. This new process will provide specific down stocking instructions to our associates based on sell-through rates, so they know whether the product needs to go directly onto the shelf or the end cap, bypassing the top stock altogether. This drives a more efficient, proactive replenishment and inventory planning process. As these examples illustrate, PPI is not a static set of initiatives that will expire at a predetermined date.

PPI is a perpetual process of ongoing initiatives that will continue to deliver productivity not only in the second half, but for many quarters to come. Now, shifting our focus to the pro, we continue to deliver incredible results with pro comps of over 13% in the quarter. In fact, this is the ninth quarter in a row that we have driven double-digit pro comps. Even in a quarter that is traditionally our most DIY-heavy, we saw pro penetration of over 23% in the U.S., an increase of over 500 basis points from 2019. We are further enhancing our pro offering with our new MVPs Pro Rewards and Partnership Program. This pro loyalty program launched in the first quarter, and it continues to outperform our expectations.

In July, we launched MVPs Bonus Points in conjunction with our first ever Lowe's MVP Bonus Days event with a focus on the products that pros use every day. Pros earn extra bonus points on our leading brands such as DEWALT, Valspar, FLEX, Metabo , A. O. Smith and Frigidaire. Our pros can redeem their points for other products or gift cards in the MVP Pro Rewards Center. It is their choice, and we made it easy for all pros to benefit.

As our MVPs Pro Rewards program continues to mature in the second half, we are excited to present our pros with compelling offers that will be tailored just for them. Before I close, let me discuss the investments that we are making in our most important asset, our associates, as we strive to become the employer of choice in retail. We recently announced expanded scheduling options for our full-time associates.

Most full-time associates can now request a fixed four-day workweek, fixed days off, or even choose their preferred shift, providing them with predictability on their terms. This is a significant improvement in our associates' quality of life, and it is another way that we are differentiating ourselves from other retailers. As Marvin mentioned, to help our frontline hourly associates during this period of high inflation, we are awarding an incremental bonus of $55 million. Also, for a designated timeframe, we are providing our associates with an additional 10% discount on everyday household and cleaning items. Associates can now purchase these products at a 20% discount, which we hope will ease the burden of inflation impacting many of these items. We will continue to look for meaningful ways to improve our associates' work-life balance while providing them with the tools to build a career at Lowe's.

I would like to thank our associates once again for their commitment to Lowe's and to our customers. Now, I'll turn the call over to Brandon.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Thank you, Joe. Let me begin with our Q2 results. We delivered diluted earnings per share of $4.67, an increase of 9.9% compared to prior year as we drove productivity in a dynamic operating environment. Q2 sales were $27.5 billion, with comparable sales down 0.3%. Comparable average ticket increased 6.1% as higher pro sales and product inflation drove higher average ticket. This was offset by comp transactions declining 6.4% as we cycle over two years of outsized growth in DIY sales. Comp transactions improved over 650 basis points sequentially from Q1. U.S. comp sales were up 0.2% in the quarter. Our sales were impacted by the shortened spring season, lower demand in certain DIY discretionary categories, and lower than expected lumber prices.

This was partially offset by a 13% increase in pro customer sales. On Lowes.com, sales increased 7% in the quarter. Our U.S. monthly comps were down 1.5% in May, up 0.9% in June, and up 1.1% in July. Gross margin was 33.24% of sales in the second quarter, down 54 basis points from last year. This is consistent with the expectations that we discussed in May. As expected, product margin rate was down 35 basis points versus the prior year. Lumber prices declined significantly from late April through mid-June. As we sold through our higher cost inventory layers, product margin rate was pressured. Higher transportation costs, both import and domestic, as well as the expansion of our supply chain network, also drove 35 basis points of pressure.

Additionally, we experienced 10 basis points of shrink pressure, largely due to live goods damaged by unseasonable weather. These impacts were partly offset by 30 basis points related to more favorable product mix. Despite the product cost pressures in the quarter, gross margin for the first half was up slightly compared to the first half of 2021. This reflected our ability to effectively navigate a volatile lumber market over the first half of the year, as well as product cost inflation. I am very pleased with the strong cross-functional collaboration from the teams as well as our diligent planning efforts. SG&A of 16.22% levered 80 basis points relative to Q2 2021. We drove substantial productivity across the enterprise in the quarter against slightly lower sales. Operating profit was $4.2 billion, up slightly versus the prior year.

Operating margin rate of 15.39% of sales levered 12 basis points as SG&A leverage was partly offset by lower gross margin rate. The effective tax rate was 24.5%, in line with prior year. Inventory ended the quarter at $19.3 billion, up $2 billion or 11.6% from Q2 last year, driven by a product cost inflation of 15% while units were down low single digits. This morning, we are affirming our full year 2022 financial outlook. We now expect that our 2022 sales will be near the bottom of our range of approximately $97 billion-$99 billion for the year, representing comparable sales towards the bottom end of the range of down 1% to up 1% for the year.

This reflects our first half results and our second half expectations of continued pro momentum and improving DIY sales trends. We continue to expect pro to outperform DIY for the remainder of the year. As a reminder, our 2022 sales outlook includes a 53rd week, which equates to approximately $1 billion-$1.5 billion in sales. We continue to expect gross margin rate to be up slightly as compared to the prior year. Given our better than expected flow through in the first half, we now expect operating margin to be at the top end of our range of 12.8%-13% for the full year. Our ability to lever gross margin in SG&A despite lower than expected sales reflects the company's focus, hard work, and effective investments over the last several years.

Taking all of this into consideration, we now expect diluted earnings per share for the year to be at the top end of the range of $13.10-$13.60. At Lowe's, we remain committed to our best-in-class capital allocation strategy. For 2022, we continue to expect approximately $2 billion in capital expenditures and $12 billion in share repurchases. Finally, we are affirming our outlook of return on invested capital above 36% for the year. Turning to our shareholder-focused capital allocation strategy. In Q2, the company generated $2.7 billion in free cash flow. Through a combination of both dividends and share repurchases, we returned $4.5 billion to our shareholders. During the quarter, we repurchased 21.6 million shares for $4 billion.

We also paid $524 million in dividends at $0.80 per share, and we announced a 31% increase to $1.05 per share in support of our 35% target dividend payout ratio. Capital expenditures totaled $344 million in the quarter as we invest in the business to support our strategic growth initiatives. We continue to make progress towards our target of 2.75x adjusted debt to EBITDAR, ending the quarter at 2.23x, and we remain committed to maintaining our BBB+ rating. Finally, we delivered return on invested capital of 34.5% in the quarter, up 548 basis points versus last year.

As I look ahead, I'm highly confident that we are making the right investments in our people and capabilities to support our business and drive meaningful long-term shareholder value. With that, we will open it up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We're now ready for questions. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star two. In order to allow as many individuals as possible, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our first question comes from the line of Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Simeon Gutman
Executive Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Sorry, good morning. My first question is, DIY comps are negative and units are down. Do units appear to be bottoming or still decelerating? Do you have a view if we rebaseline this year or there's more to go in 2023?

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Yeah. Simeon, this is Brandon. You know, just as we look at DIY specifically, the business was heavily weighted to DIY seasonal in the first half of the year. I think underperformed a bit just due to the weather, the pull forward that we mentioned in patio and grills. Second half of the year, transitioning more to the core, the interior of the store. In particular, post July 4th, over the last six weeks, we've seen continued momentum building in these categories. We've seen a clear step change in the business, one to three year comps improving again, in particular in pro and core interior. Then I'll point back to transactions Q1, Simeon, down 13%. We saw improvement Q2 down 6%.

You know, we like the momentum we're seeing and optimistic around you know, the step changes again that we're seeing in the second half.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Hey, Simeon, this is Marvin. I think it's important to note that when you look at the first half of the year, the first half is obviously more seasonal. We had weather impacts that drove a lot of our negative units, if you think about outdoor lawn and garden, chemicals, et cetera. Then if you think about what we talked about, the unprecedented demand we saw the last couple of years in some of these DIY discretionary categories, specifically patio and grills. We're not gonna experience the seasonality of the business in the second half of the year, and we're not gonna experience that unprecedented overlap in those two highly seasonal discretionary categories.

Simeon Gutman
Executive Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Maybe Marvin, if I can ask you a follow-up. I know we have this Analyst Day later in the year, and you're coming off of a couple of years of historic top-line growth, and you've been able to get to margin goals much faster. Do you sense, or do you feel that these gains keep going as long as sales productivity keeps rising? Or do you feel like there's any part of you that says, "Hey, we could pause, reinvest, and then we can even drive faster growth in the out years?"

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Simeon, it's a really good question. Yeah, I think it depends on the financial category. I'll remind you that home improvement is a $900 billion marketplace. I think it's easy to just focus on the two largest players and determine the overall market share gain just based on that. This is a really fragmented marketplace. On the revenue side, we absolutely believe that we have an incredible runway to continue to grow. Just focus specifically on the fact that our pro penetration is hovering around 23%-25%, and we know we can get that number significantly higher. Now, the good news is, as Joe mentioned, it's increased 500 basis points, you know, since 2019. On the sales revenue side, we think we have a incredible opportunity to continue to grow.

On operating margin, I mean, we've said consistently that 12% was not a plateau, it was a baseline. Now, we're gonna say the same thing about 13%. We think when we hit that plateau, it's just gonna be another baseline that we can continue to grow from. You know, Joe talked about the importance of our PPI initiatives, that is not a static list, but this is something that we see benefit in future quarters and candidly future years. In both those areas, we think that we have room to grow in, and we look forward to providing, you know, a very detailed outlook at the December conference.

Simeon Gutman
Executive Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thanks, everyone. Good luck.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kate McShane, Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Kate McShane
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking our question. We wondered if you could talk a little bit more about your inventory composition cost per unit versus units, and then does inventory seem to be lower than your competitor? Just what is your view on current in-stocks, and are you chasing any categories?

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Kate, I'll take the first part of that, then I'll let Brandon and Bill jump in, you know. I would say first and foremost, I am extremely pleased with the disciplined collaboration and planning that's taken place to put us in a really good inventory position vis-à-vis the retail industry. You know, anytime you could have units declining in this environment with supply chain constraints and just incredible difficulties in forecasting, it points to a lot of hard work. The headline is we feel really good about our current inventory position, and we feel good about our in-stock position in the second half of the year versus last year.

I'm gonna let Brandon talk a little bit about the financial expression, then I'll let Bill talk about, you know, where we are and where we feel like that we're in a much better position versus what we've been in past years and past quarters.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Hey, Kate, this is Brandon. The only thing, you know, I would add in the prepared remarks, we talked about, you know, units being down. I think it has allowed us to make the needed investments in particular in the pro space as we've seen momentum there to continue to support demand. We've had improved in-stocks in certain areas that we struggled a bit through the pandemic. As Marvin said, really pleased where we are from an inventory position. We're managing seasonal just like we would every year. In-stock levels are better than they've been here over the last 2.5 years. And any, you know, expected exits of seasonal fully included in the margin expectations that we have for second half.

Joe McFarland
EVP of Stores, Lowe's

Yeah, Brandon, the only thing I would add is that, you know, the quality level of the inventory is good, although there are still categories across the store that, you know, we wanna see improvements in, and so we're continuing to work with our vendor partners to do that, working with our supply chain teams in order to expedite that product to the store and to the shelf. You know, the quality level of inventory this year versus last year is dramatically better than it's been.

Kate McShane
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Peter Benedict with Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Peter Benedict
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

Hey, guys. Good morning. First question, just, look, the operating agility you guys have shown has been impressive, clearly. How do you ensure you're not sacrificing service levels as you manage these SG&A dollars? Any metrics that you can share that maybe give you confidence that service levels in the stores are still holding up?

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Peter, it's a really good question. Obviously, you know, we pay very close attention to what we describe as service levels versus task levels. The thing that Joe and the store operators have done an incredible job is investing in service while taking hours away from tasks. When you see that SG&A leverage, it's not like the old days where you just kind of rip payroll out and you risk service. What Joe and his team have done a masterful job of is pulling hours away from non-customer facing parts of the store, taking some of those dollars to the bottom line, but then reinvesting dollars on the service side.

I'll let Joe give you some specifics, but the headline is likelihood to recommend up for both DIY and pro in the quarter with SG&A leverage, and that is not easy to do. Joe, you can provide some detail.

Joe McFarland
EVP of Stores, Lowe's

Yeah. Thanks, Marvin. Listen, I think it goes back to the focus that we've had on our associates. Again, with the PPI initiatives, removing unnecessary daunting tasks, replacing them with technology and just enabling the associates' time on the floor to be more productive. You know, we've done things, the flexible scheduling. You know, we've talked many times in the past about our new labor management engine. You know, as we continue moving forward, we measure every single day, every single week, and you know, we're very pleased with the progress we've made both in the operational expense and the customer experience.

Peter Benedict
Senior Research Analyst, Baird

No, that's helpful. That's great. Thank you. Just I guess the next question would just be around what kind of metrics do you guys watch internally that would maybe signal to you, maybe a softening of demand, whether it be pro or DIY, you know, relative to trend? Are there any categories? Are there any behaviors? I know you're watching it constantly, but you know, just curious kind of what you have your eyes on, as you kind of navigate this volatile environment. Thank you.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Look, as you can imagine, there are quite a few things that we look at. I think the thing that I'm most pleased with when I look around the table of my team is there's a lot of experience, a lot of people who lived through quite a few different iterations of macro slowdowns in the home improvement space. We have some pretty effective playbooks on the merchandising side, on the store operations side, on managing cost and inventory. I think it's one of the reasons why we've demonstrated quite a bit of agility, you know, in some of these unique times. Having said that, I'll let Brandon give you a little bit of the things that we look at just to make sure that we have our finger on the pulse of the health of the business.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Yeah, Peter, I would just call out just in this dynamic environment, I think really important for us to look at unit trends in particular. Between the merchant teams, the finance teams, week in, week out, we're down at a very detailed category assortment level. We're looking at one, two, and three year trends and what, you know, how much of the business is being driven by inflation, ticket, you know, the offset, how much we're driving in terms of units and demand. We've mentioned some of these categories, you know, in seasonal, where we've seen units get back to pre-pandemic levels. We talked about patio and grills. Starting to understand and get comfortable. The flip side is we're seeing great unit growth in other areas like the pro business that we wanna continue to feed.

Looking across the assortment, looking at those impacts, how that impacts inventory replenishment ordering, and the drivers of the business teams are really focused on that.

Kate McShane
Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, great. Thanks so much, guys. Good luck.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steven Forbes with Guggenheim Securities. Please just give your question.

Steven Forbes
Senior Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Securities

Good morning. I wanted to start with the pro. Marvin or Joe, you mentioned Lowe's MVP loyalty program, and I realize it's new, but curious if you can note what tier the majority of your pros sit in today, and whether you saw any sort of early signs of pros tiering up during the quarter as we look out to the back half.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Hey, Steve, I'm not gonna answer that question specifically. Let me say that first. I'll give you just some thoughts on the pro loyalty program. You know, we talked about the 13% comp growth in pro and 37% growth on a two-year basis. We think that the foundation of what's driving that is really monetizing the investments we've already made from a service staffing and technology. I think the second reason why you're seeing growth is the investments in brand that, you know, Bill talked about in his prepared comments, and that's an ongoing process. Fulfillment is improved as a third, you know, kind of component of improvement.

We know that we have work to do to continue to make fulfillment easier for our pro customers, and that's one of the things that, as I mentioned, that we're piloting a fulfillment center gig network, and we're excited about the possibilities. Then the last foundational point is what you asked, and that's loyalty. We think, you know, our new MVP program is incredibly successful in the early stages. How do I define that? Customers that are engaged in pro loyalty and credit spend 3x more a year than pros that don't. I mean, to me, that's the key metric that we look at. Do we understand the level of pros that's tiering up? We do. We don't wanna discuss that externally.

What I will tell you is all the events that we've launched this year, leveraging points and pro loyalty have exceeded our expectations, and we have a lot more to come. We'll provide some level of granularity in the future, but it's too early to share it externally. I will tell you that we're pleased with the progress.

Steven Forbes
Senior Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Securities

I appreciate the color, Marvin. Maybe just a quick follow-up for Brandon. Based on the gross margin guidance, it sort of implies a relatively flattish outlook for the back half. You know, clearly, we got the supply chain build out and transportation cost pressure. Maybe there's any help on the offset, if it's from mix or just product margin trends.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Yeah. We feel like we have a pretty good handle on the gross margin drivers of the business here over the second half. You know, we expect modest product margin improvement, as you mentioned, offset by higher supply chain costs. That's inclusive of distribution, transportation. We mentioned the drag in Q2 and the expanded network. Shrink credit, fairly neutral as we look across the second half as it relates to other contributors to margin. Full year unchanged, as it relates to guiding to slightly up, from a gross margin standpoint, and we feel really good about our ability to deliver that.

Steven Forbes
Senior Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Securities

Thank you.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

You're welcome.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Scot Ciccarelli with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Scot Ciccarelli
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Truist Securities

Good morning, guys. Another DIY question. I know you've bounced around this a little bit, but, you know, the cycling of stimulus, the short spring season, that all makes sense as reasons why DIY would be negative. I know this is an opinion, but I guess the question is, what gives you confidence that the softer trends you've seen in DIY over the last few months isn't the beginning of a slowdown following several years of accelerated demand?

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

It's a fair question. Scot, I'll take the first part, and I'll let Brandon provide some context. When you look at DIY and you look at the first half, I think it's important to understand that a lot of the negative impacts have been relatively isolated in discretionary categories. You know, we talked a lot about patio and grills. Candidly, for the last two, three years, with the lack of mobility that we've all had and the amount of time we spend at home, once you make an investment for patio furniture and grill, there's really not an overriding demand to do it again a year or two later. We understand that.

Also, we talk quite a bit about the shortened weather season of spring and how that put a lot of pressure on lawn and garden outside categories, and that's almost exclusively for us, DIY-specific. When we try to put, you know, in a characterization what drove the DIY slowness in the first half, we can be very specific on that. As we look at the back half, you know, we know that a shift is coming based on our business trends. I'll let Brandon just provide a little context on the trends we are seeing and when we look to the interior of the store, what we believe will happen in the back half of the year.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Yes. Scot, I think confidence just given the first half isolated impacts that Marvin called out around, you know, the weather, the DIY discretionary. I mentioned earlier just the momentum that we're seeing in the business, in particular post July 4th. Again, looking at one year and three-year comps, clear step change that we're seeing in the business there. Then I think last, just as we look at the second half and really the structural sort of setup of the business, it's less seasonal. It's definitely more interior-focused as we get into the core categories. And we think that just coupled with the momentum again that we're seeing with the pro, we feel like that plays really well when we look at the second half outlook that we have on the business.

Joe McFarland
EVP of Stores, Lowe's

Yes, Scot. Just to add one thing, to that. In a recessionary environment, as you look at the DIY, that tends to shift more to the repair categories, versus the big ticket. There's a lot of indicators out there that we watch on a very regular basis.

Operator

Got it. Thanks a lot, guys.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Thanks, Scot.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Michael Lasser with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Lasser
Equity Research Analyst, Hardlines, Broadlines and Food Retail, UBS

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. You lowered the comp outlook to the lower end of the range, but articulated the view that your earnings will be at the high end of the range. How low could your comp be in the back half of the year, and you still hit the EPS guidance for the full year?

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Yeah. Michael, this is Brandon. I would just tell you, we're very focused on delivering what the most likely scenario that we have with the business, which that's updated in our outlook. We're looking at top line being down 1%. We're really confident, you know, given the ability to manage gross margin, the step up that we're seeing with SG&A leverage and how that's translating to profit expansion and EPS. Confident in that scenario, confident delivering on what we have in the guide, and that's where we are at this point in time.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Michael, this is Marvin. The thing that we often talk about internally is that expense is typically relative to sales, and you know, expense is a percent of sales and percent of revenue. We have proven that we have levers that we can pull so that we can ensure that as revenue goes down, then we can at the same point bring our rate of expense down. That's something that we feel very confident in our ability to deliver upon. I think Q1 and Q2 of this year should represent that.

Michael Lasser
Equity Research Analyst, Hardlines, Broadlines and Food Retail, UBS

Thank you very much for that. My follow-up question is on the nature of where sales stand today versus where they were in 2019. Marvin, you called out patio furniture and grills as categories that have been well above the trend line in demand. Seasonal and outdoors, about 10% of the business. Appliances, another 10%-15% of the business. Is that the right way to think about the risk of those sales being kind of overearning from the last couple of years? How much risk is there that this above trend performance in those categories starts to leak into other areas of the business, lighting, flooring, other areas that could be more episodic in nature?

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Michael, it's a really good question. I think you can appreciate that this has been one of the most difficult environments to forecast and to build any kind of consistent modeling on. What I will say to you is we pay close attention to all the trends, and we are obviously now looking at what we call pre-pandemic sale rates and understanding where we have reverted back by category to those pre-pandemic levels. We know where we are and what categories are in those specific run rates, and we know which categories are not. Our job is to pay really close attention to those merchandising categories to ensure that we're in a good in-stock position, that we have good presentation, that we're priced right. That's our best attempt to try to manage it.

We'll have a much better answer for you as we wrap up the back end of the year. Because of the uniqueness of these overlaps, it's really tough to answer that question with any precision just coming out of the second quarter.

Michael Lasser
Equity Research Analyst, Hardlines, Broadlines and Food Retail, UBS

Understood. Thank you very much, and good luck.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Eric Bosshard with Cleveland Research. Please proceed with your question.

Eric Bosshard
CEO and Consumer Analyst, Cleveland Research Company

Good morning. Good morning. Thank you. Curious for your strategy in regards to promotions and pricing as we move into the back half, considering, you know, what you're seeing with units and where you sit with inventory, if you're changing relative to the first half?

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Hey, Eric, this is Marvin. Short answer is, no plans to change any of our philosophical approach to promotions and pricing. Our key is to be competitive. Again, we've invested in some sophisticated tools that give us real-time visibility to our competitors so we can be priced right every single day. I'll let Bill talk more about his thoughts on promotion and pricing just to reinforce that, you know, we have a consistent philosophy that we plan to stick with.

Bill Boltz
EVP of Merchandising, Lowe's

Yeah. Good morning, Eric, and thanks for the question. Just a couple of things and just a couple of reminders. We've you know, been on this journey for you know, our merchandising strategy, pricing strategy over really the last 3+ years, and that has you know, the playbook that we're working to follow and really trying to you know, unwind from what was a high-low pricing strategy to an everyday competitive price strategy. The work that we've done between the merchants, the finance team, you know, to prop up you know, the resources to manage and monitor price you know, on a daily, weekly basis is really allowing us to do that. We feel really good about being you know, very competitive you know, good line of sight on those key SKUs that matter.

From a promotion perspective, it's all about, you know, being there, you know, when the customer expects us to be there. So obviously, we got a Labor Day event coming up here in the next couple weeks. You go into, you know, the holiday season, Black Friday, you know, and so we'll continue to supplement, you know, those events with, you know, key offers and be there with value for the customer, and then work really hard to provide that value day in and day out in the store with the changes that we've made through our end cap strategies, flex strategies, et cetera.

Eric Bosshard
CEO and Consumer Analyst, Cleveland Research Company

Just to follow up within that, what have you seen, when you have run events, you know, you ran some July 4 th events, and I'm just curious, have you seen different consumer engagement with promotions, in this environment or now relevant to the past? Are these resonating? Again, I'm just asking, as you look at, you know, negative units and a bit softer sales and a bit more inventory, historically, you promote more. I understand the new Lowe's is less focused on that, but is the payback from those things similar or different? Is the consumer responding similar or different on those?

Bill Boltz
EVP of Merchandising, Lowe's

Yeah. I think, you know, there's a couple of things. First, there's a time and an opportunity to put, you know, stuff on value. If you think about first half of the year and you think about, you know, mulch and live goods promotions and those types of things that get, you know, the customer in the door and drive traffic, you know, they play a certain role for us in the role of category of certain merchandising businesses. Then you have, you know, new and innovation, as I said in my prepared remarks, where the customer's finding value in that. A good example is that EGO lawnmower that I talked about in my opening remarks.

It's a $700 unit, and it was by far one of our best-selling products, best unit-driving products in the assortment. It's not low priced, it's not on, it's not on promotion, and it was just out there, and the consumer has adopted that battery platform, and they love the product. It's really a combination of both, and that's the blend that we're trying to, you know, to manage. In the appliance business, as you know, hundreds of thousands of appliances, you know, break every day, so you've got to be out there with an offer in the appliance business day in and day out. That's how we're playing it.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Eric, this is Marvin. And I really appreciate the question, because, you know, we're in this unique environment with customer demand, especially coming out of that outsized demand in certain discretionary categories, you know, during the pandemic. We are closely monitoring any of our, we call it tier one holiday promotions, just to see how customers respond. The biggest difference at Lowe's today versus when I arrived about four years ago is that there is a rigorous analytical process that we go to coming out of all types of promotions just to look at did we get the return on investment. What we're not gonna do, to Bill's point, is just kind of follow historical trends just because. We're gonna evaluate whether or not we got a return, whether the customer responded, and we'll adjust accordingly.

We've been doing quite a bit of adjusting because the customers are responding differently because this is such a unique environment. We're anxious to now look at the back half of the year. We feel good about the trends as Brandon outlined. We feel good about how the customer is shifting on the interior parts of the store because that's where we're really strong at. We feel we're well positioned, and we'll have a much better assessment looking at the full year going into next year relative to some of these customer engagements to some of these events.

Eric Bosshard
CEO and Consumer Analyst, Cleveland Research Company

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Horvers with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Christopher Horvers
Senior Analyst, JPMorgan

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. My first question is also a follow-up on the DIY side. Marvin, there were some headlines that talked about, you know, the improvement continuing into August, and Brandon's comments certainly echo that. Have you seen DIY flip to a positive trend? And then as a follow-up, last year, you know, post Labor Day, you talked about that consumer coming back from sort of vacation and reengaging in DIY. You know, how are you thinking about, you know, the ability for that to sustain what you're seeing now to sustain against the step-up you saw last year?

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Well, you know, I'll repeat what Brandon said. We've seen a step change, you know, post July fourth here in our business, and that continues into the month of August. You know, but it's early means that the trends that we anticipated, we're seeing those trends, and we're seeing even better than we had anticipated in certain categories. So that's the good news. But I'll just let Brandon kinda reiterate, you know, why we have confidence, you know, in the DIY consumer as we look at the back part of the year.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Yeah, Chris, I'm not gonna get into too much detail just specifically on DIY comps, but I would say just the response, as I mentioned over the last six weeks, especially as we've moved more to the interior of the core, the DIY business within the home decor categories, I think has been notable. That's where we're seeing momentum. I'd also just call out there's other areas, you know, lumber's gonna be a mix between, you know, pro and DIY, but sort of just given where pricing is at that point too, we're seeing nice response there, and we're seeing activity that we continue to see momentum building as we get into August here.

Christopher Horvers
Senior Analyst, JPMorgan

Got it. You know, some of the input commodities for a lot of your products have come down recently. You know, so Marvin, since you came on board, you've introduced some very sophisticated, you know, pricing and, you know, cost deconstructing capabilities. How are you thinking about, you know, your intent in the near term to go back and at the vendors for some price rollbacks?

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Well, yeah, before Brandon was elevated to his more prestigious position, he did that work for us, in merchandising with Bill. I'll let him give you some specifics on that.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Thanks, Marvin. So yeah, Chris, I would say, you know, just given rate tightening that we're seeing from the Fed, monitoring the commodity markets, we're definitely expecting some normalization as we move across the second half and into next year. We have built, as Marvin's mentioned, a disciplined product cost management process. We feel like we have the insights to the cost drivers across, you know, our suppliers. We understand where it's coming from in terms of commodities, labor, transportation. As raw materials come down, we're positioned and prepared to renegotiate prices with our suppliers. We're actually very much underway in certain areas with Bill and his team.

From a pricing perspective, like we always do, we're gonna leverage a portfolio approach, if and when we call back the dollars, but we're always gonna ensure that we're gonna be competitive there, as we approach pricing.

Christopher Horvers
Senior Analyst, JPMorgan

Thank you. Best of luck.

Brandon Sink
EVP and CFO, Lowe's

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Michael Baker with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Baker
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Hi. Thanks. Maybe a follow-up. I did wanna touch on the pro business a little bit in two questions. One, pro business, you know, up double digits for nine quarters in a row. That's great, but it did slow a little bit from last quarter on a one-year and a two-year basis. So wondering what to make of that. Then these comments on, since July 4th, you know, being a little bit better, I can say the DIY, but any comment on how the pro business is doing, in the last, you know, six weeks or so? Thanks.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Yeah. Yeah, thanks, Michael. This is Marvin. We feel good about the overall sales volume in the pro business. As Joe noted, you know, second quarter is typically our highest DIY penetration quarter of the year. When we look at the pro business, we feel incredibly positive on the momentum and just the daily volume we're seeing across all geographies relative to what we were seeing two or three years ago. We think it's very sustainable, and it's proven to be. We think as we get into the back half of the year, with our new pro loyalty program, with improved job site quantities in stock, with some of the brands that Bill outlined, that we're gonna see this momentum continue. As I said, it's not just about pro loyalty.

Pro loyalty is one of the foundational pieces of the strategy in addition to all the investments we've made in the store, the brands, the fulfillment improvement. Also, just as a reminder, you know, our U.S. reset project last year literally, you know, improved all the adjacencies, specifically for our pro customer, and we think those things are paying dividends. That business is performing really well vis-à-vis the DIY and the same trends we're seeing post July 4th for DIY. You know, pro is also taking those same positive trends and performing well.

Michael Baker
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Thank you. That's helpful. I appreciate the color.

Marvin Ellison
Chairman, President, and CEO, Lowe's

Yeah, thank you.

Kate Pearlman
VP of Investor Relations, Lowe's

Thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you on our third quarter earnings call in November.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes the Lowe's second quarter 2022 earnings call. You may now disconnect your-

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