Good afternoon and thank you for joining the Q1 2021 Earnings Conference Call for LPL Financial Holdings Incorporated. Joining the call today are our President and Chief Executive Officer, Dan Arnold and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Audette. Dan and Matt will offer introductory remarks and then the call will be open for questions. The company would appreciate if analysts would limit themselves with one question and one follow-up each. The company has posted its earnings press release and supplementary information on the Investor Loitrin's section of the company's website, investor.
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For a reconciliation of such non GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP figures, please refer to the company's earnings release, which can be found at the investor. Lpl.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Arnold.
Thank you, Kirby, and thanks to everyone for joining our call today. Over the past quarter, our advisors continue to be a source of extraordinary support and guidance for their clients. And at the same time, we remain focused on our mission of taking care of our advisors so they can take care of their clients. This combination positioned us to deliver another quarter of solid results, while also continuing to make progress on our strategic plan. I'd like to review both of these areas, starting with our Q1 business results.
In the quarter, total assets reached a new high of over $950,000,000,000 up more than 40% from a year ago. This increase was primarily driven by continued organic growth and equity market appreciation. With respect to organic growth, 1st quarter net new assets were $29,000,000,000 which included $12,000,000,000 from BMO Harris Financial Advisors. This result translated to double digit annualized growth of 13%, driven by continued strength across new store sales, same store sales and retention. 1st quarter recruited assets were $24,000,000,000 which includes $15,000,000,000 from BMO.
This result Brought our total recruited assets over the past year to a new high of $56,000,000,000 Our continued progress on recruiting is primarily driven by the appeal of our model, our ongoing innovation for the future and the expanded flexibility of our platform. At the same time, we further enhanced the advisor experience through continued delivery of new capabilities and technology as well as the ongoing modernization of our service and operations functions. As a result, asset retention remained solid at 98% in the 1st quarter and net promoter Our first quarter business results led to solid financial outcomes with $1.77 of EPS prior to intangibles and acquisition cost. Let's now turn to the progress we have made executing our strategic plan. As a reminder, we have evolved our long term vision.
We aspire to expand beyond our old vision of extending our leadership in the independent space and redefine The independent model over time and by doing so become the leader across the entire advisor centered marketplace. Now our approach is to build a platform that is simple and straightforward for advisors to use with the flexibility to construct the perfect practice on creating total empowerment for LPL Advisors to thrive and that is the heart of our mission. Doing this well gives us a sustainable path to higher levels of organic growth, increased market leadership and long term shareholder value creation. Now to execute on our strategy, we have organized our work into 4 strategic plays, which I'd like to review with you in turn. Our first strategic play involves meeting advisors where they are in the evolution of their practice by winning in our traditional markets while also leveraging new models to expand our addressable markets.
Strategically, we believe this combination positions us to not only deliver sustainable and repeatable organic growth but to also increase our growth rate over time. In our traditional markets, while overall industry advisor movement remained at lower levels in the Q1, we continue to gain share and grow our pipeline. Looking more specifically at the regional bank segment of our financial institution channel. We onboarded BMO Harris Financial Advisors in late March. We continue to prepare for M and T to join in the next few months and we advance conversations with additional prospects.
With respect to the expansion of our addressable markets, We continue to see momentum building in our new affiliation models. Earlier this month, we onboarded 2 new practices to Strategic Wealth Services, bringing us to a total of 7 on the platform. And earlier this week, we added another advisor to our employee base model. Looking ahead, We feel good about our pipeline for both of these models. Another key component of this strategic play is using M and A as a complement to organic With respect to our acquisition of Waddell and Reed's Wealth Management business, we now have commitments from Waddell Advisors who serve approximately 95% of client assets.
We are engaging closely with these advisors to help them prepare to transition to LPL and begin leveraging our platform to serve their clients and grow their businesses. Our second strategic play is focused on providing One of the key components of this play is enriching the end client experience. Advisory platforms are increasingly at the center of the in client experience as the secular trend towards advisory continues in our business and across the industry. Given this, we remain focused on providing our advisors with an industry leading advisory platform, including a number of recent enhancements. Within the quarter, we introduced simplified pricing and lowered account minimums on our centrally managed platforms.
We also expanded our no transaction ETF product offering, which now serves about 40% of ETF assets in advisory accounts. At the same time, we are introducing new platform capabilities in the spirit of creating a differentiated UMA offering that combines multiple centrally managed portfolios within a single account. These enhancements increase the appeal, Accessibility and flexibility of our advisory offering, which in turn supports our advisors' efforts to serve their clients and win in the marketplace. Let's next move to our 3rd strategic play, which involves creating an industry leading service experience to delight advisors and their clients and that in turn helps drive advisor retention. A key component of this strategic play is transforming our service model into an omnichannel client care model that provides our advisors with differentiated service.
In Q1, we completed the rollout of live who is trained and certified to answer their specific question. Our next step is completing the rollout of our digital self-service experience, which Together with voice and chat, we'll position advisors to access industry leading service at a time and in a manner that works best for them. We also continue to automate and streamline key elements of our service operations. In Q1, our area of focus included enhancing The administrative support around tax season, digitizing forms and automating account transfers. Enhancements in these areas are helping strengthen the advisor experience and the scalability of our platform as our business Our remaining focused on the transformation of our service model into a client care model and continuous improvement through the automation and streamlining of We believe we are making positive contributions to the service experience, advisor retention and net promoter scores.
Our 4th strategic play is focused on helping advisors run the most successful businesses in the independent One of the key components of this play is our portfolio of business solutions, which help advisors operate their businesses so they can focus on serving their clients and growing their practices. As we discussed last quarter, we see several pathways for continued business In the Q1, our subscription base continued to scale to about 1700 monthly subscriptions that generated annualized revenue of approximately $19,000,000 This growth was primarily driven by our ongoing expansion and evolution of the value proposition of our existing portfolio. Looking at our product road map, we continue to enhance our portfolio of solutions while expanding into new offerings. In Q1, we launched M and A Solutions, which is generating solid demand, including Over 50 advisers who are leveraging this offering today. In Q2, we plan to introduce our 7th business solution, Client Engage.
This evolved from our existing marketing offering and is focused on providing advisors with a digital approach to effectively and efficiently As we look outside LPL, we plan to begin marketing M and A solutions later this year.
And we'll now turn the
call over to our financial results.
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Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Good morning, everyone. 21 Sustainability Report last week. We believe operating a sustainable business is good for all of our stakeholders.
We hope this report provides helpful insight into our practices and performance. In summary, In the Q1, we continued to invest in the value proposition for advisors and their clients, while driving growth and increasing our market leadership. As we look ahead, we remain focused on executing our strategy to help our advisors further differentiate and win in the marketplace and as a result drive long term shareholder value. With that, I'll turn the call over to Matt.
All right. Thank you, Dan, and I'm glad to speak with everyone on today's call. As we move into 2021, we remain focused on serving our advisors, growing our business and delivering shareholder value. This focus led to the highest quarter of organic growth in our history. And in addition, we are in the midst of onboarding will become 3 of our largest partners in BMO, M and T and Waddell and Reed.
We expect these three partners to collectively $100,000,000,000 of AUM to our platform, bringing our total AUM to over 1,000,000,000,000 Now let's turn to our Q1 business results. Total advisory and brokerage assets increased to a new high of $958,000,000,000 up 6% from Q4, driven by continued organic growth and higher equity markets. Looking at organic growth, total net new assets were Organic growth was 7.6%. Moving on to recruiting and retention. We continued to produce strong results in the Q1.
Recruited assets in Q1 were the strongest in our history at $24,000,000,000 which included $15,000,000,000 from large bank onboarding. These results brought our 12 month recruiting total to a new high of 56,000,000,000 It remains strong at 98.1%. I would also note that we updated our retention metric to reflect asset And we have provided historical data in our key metrics presentation, so you can see both the old and new metric. Moving on to our business mix. We continued to see positive trends in Q1.
Advisory net new assets were $23,000,000,000 or a 20% annualized growth rate. With this growth, our advisory assets are now 52% of total assets as we continue to deliver differentiated advisory capabilities and benefit from the secular trend towards advisory. Now let's turn to our Q1 financial results. Strong organic growth combined with expense discipline led to EPS prior to Tangibles and acquisition costs of $1.77 Looking at our top line growth, Gross profit reached a new high of $579,000,000 up $46,000,000 or 9% sequentially. Looking at the components, commission and advisory fees net of payout were $184,000,000 up $31,000,000 from Q4, primarily driven by organic growth and seasonally lower production expense.
Moving on to asset based revenues. Sponsor revenues were $168,000,000 in Q1, up $14,000,000 sequentially as average assets increased driven by organic growth and higher equity markets. Turning to client cash revenues. They were $97,000,000 down 8,000,000 from Q4, driven by lower client cash yields. Looking at client cash balances, they remain elevated at $48,000,000,000 roughly flat with As for client cash yields, our Q1 ICA yield was 99 basis points, down 9 basis points from Q4.
The decrease during the quarter was primarily driven by fixed rate and LIBOR based contracts that matured and lower short term interest rates. Looking ahead to Q2, we will have the full quarter impact of the $500,000,000 of contracts that matured in Q1 as well as another $1,000,000,000 of fixed rate contracts maturing in Q2. Given these factors and where interest rates, client rates and cash balances are today, we would expect our Q2 ICA yield to be in the mid-ninety basis point range. I would also note we have no additional fixed rate contracts maturing in the second half of this year. Moving on to Q1 transaction fee revenues.
They were $141,000,000 up 11,000,000 driven by trading volume that increased throughout the quarter. Looking ahead to Q2, trading Tivity in April has declined from the elevated levels we saw in Q1. And if this trend continues through the quarter, These offerings now generate roughly $19,000,000 of annual revenue, up from $17,000,000 last quarter. And more importantly, They help free up additional time for advisors to spend on more valuable activities, including serving their clients and growing their practices. Now let's turn to expenses starting with core G and A.
It was $236,000,000 in Q1. Looking ahead, we continue to anticipate full year 2021 core G and A to be in a range of $975,000,000 to 1,000,000,000 As a reminder, this includes costs to support BMO and M and T, but is prior to expenses associated with Weddell and Reed. Moving on to Q1 promotional expenses. They were $54,000,000 up $6,000,000 sequentially, primarily driven by increased transition assistance from higher recruiting and large bank onboarding expenses. Turning to Q2, we anticipate promotional expense will increase by approximately $5,000,000 prior to Waddell and Reed, primarily driven by increased transition assistance and large bank onboarding expenses.
Looking at share based compensation It was $11,000,000 in Q1, up from $8,000,000 in Q4. Looking ahead to Q2, we expect share based compensation expense be at a similar level to Q1. Turning to depreciation and amortization. It was $35,000,000 in Q1, up $7,000,000 sequentially as several improvements to our advisory platform and end client experience were rolled out Sooner than anticipated. Looking ahead, we expect depreciation in Q2 to be in line with Q1 levels.
Now let's move to What Owen Reed. The transaction is progressing better than we originally estimated across multiple fronts. As mentioned, what Owen Reed advises serving approximately 95% of client assets have committed to join our platform. Factoring in this higher level of retention and current asset levels, we expect the run rate EBITDA from what Owen Reed to be at least $80,000,000 up from our original $50,000,000 estimate. As a result of the higher retention, We now expect $110,000,000 of acquisition costs, up from our original estimate of 85,000,000 These updates bring our estimated purchase multiple to 5 times EBITDA, an improvement from our original estimate of 6.5 times EBITDA.
Now, I want to provide an update on our expected close timing. Over the past several months, we have had strong with Waddell and Reed and Macquarie, and we have received the required regulatory approvals. As a result, we are pleased To share that we anticipate closing the acquisition of Waddell and Reed's Wealth Management business as early as tomorrow. And we continue to expect to onboard the advisors a few months after closing. Looking ahead, we are focused on providing 1st, to provide more clarity around our results, we have added an acquisition cost line item to our management P and Looking at Q2, we expect roughly 1 third of our total acquisition cost to be incurred during the quarter.
2nd, we will keep you updated each quarter on how we expect EBITDA to build as we progress towards hitting the full run rate benefit by the middle of 2022. In Q2, we expect annualized negative run rate EBITDA of $10,000,000 as we add resources to prepare to support Waddell and Reed. Moving on to capital management, starting with our debt refinancing. Given the continued strength of our business, combined with the low interest rate environment, we were able to refinance our highest cost debt from 5.75 percent to 4%, reducing our annual interest expense by 13,000,000 We were also able to increase the size of our revolver from $750,000,000 to $1,000,000,000 As for capital deployment, Our framework remains focused on allocating capital aligned with returns we generate, investing in organic growth 1st and foremost, Pursuing M and A where appropriate and returning excess capital to shareholders. In the near term, we continue to expect the majority of our capital deployment to be focused on organic growth and M and A as we onboard BMO, M and T and Waddell and Reed.
Once we have completed these transitions, we plan to reassess our capital deployment opportunities. And if at that time we have excess capital to deploy beyond organic growth M and A. We would anticipate restarting share repurchases. That said, we will have to see what our options look like at that time. In closing, we delivered another quarter of strong business and financial results.
And as we look forward, we remain With that, operator, please open the call for questions.
You may press the pound key. And the company would appreciate if analysts would limit themselves to one question and one follow-up each. The first question comes from the line of Bill Katz from Citigroup. Bill, your line is now open. Okay.
Thank you very
much and good evening, everybody. So maybe Dan, to start off with you. It seems like from the headlines and your comments that there's been acceleration in both Strategic wealth services and building so on sort of the independent employee side. What's changing at the margin here? Is it just time?
Maybe a sense of maybe peel back a layer, sort of what's been the incremental change in the marketplace that's resonating better?
Yes, Bill, thanks for the question. And as a reminder, we just launched these last year, SWS in April and then the employee model in the 2nd half of last year. And as you know, it takes a bit of positioning in the marketplace, Seasoning, iterating on your value proposition as you learn and you get feedback, bringing on clients and then having a good Invest and enhance in the talent on our business development team. So a combination of those things Are driving a bigger pipeline, better positioning out in the marketplace from a competitive standpoint, Building on existing clients who are having a good experience And then finally, using that quality talent to ultimately help go execute. So that's a similar concept for both SWS, or Strategic Well Services, is a bit ahead of the independent employee model Only because it started several months earlier, but you can see them on a similar trajectory.
I hope that helps.
Yes, thanks. And then maybe one just for Matt. I guess one of the themes that's been coming out is sort of this excess liquidity in the system overall. I think you mentioned in the last quarter as well. Just wanted to maybe update what you're thinking on how to sort of track through fix to float or float to fix, I should say, and so the ability to sort Drive the 3rd party sweep opportunity?
Yes, sure, Bill. I think maybe just starting with our strategy and goals here, which are really unchanged, Specifically on the fixed rate deposit side, which is really to get to a place where 50% to 75% of the portfolio is fixed. So I think from a long term perspective, that's where we're headed. But I think to the point of your question, similar to last quarters, when you look at the amount of liquidity in the system right now, there's really just very little demand for deposits. That said, I think you're starting to see some early indicators of that changing and maybe really early indicators, But things like the yield curve starting to steep in, right?
The 10 year moving up, where there's a for those banks that are on the demand side of these deposits, There's some economics in the spread for them to invest in. Consumer spending picking up, right? There's 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars in savings and checking accounts that's built up over the pandemic and as that spending picks up that going back into the market is one of the things that can lead to that So if those trends continue, I think those are some of the things that could start to change and not improve that demand. But I'd emphasize we're not seeing that pickup today. But I'd just end with, I think our long term strategy of moving To that 50% to 75% fixed zone, when there is demand, we feel really good about being able to execute it then.
Okay. Thank you.
Next question comes from the line of Steven Chubak of Wolfe Research. Stephen, your line is now open.
Hey, Dan, Matt, good afternoon. So wanted to start off with a question
on M and A and the appetite for
more transformational deals. August 17, For more transformational deals, then August 'seventeen, you announced the NPH transaction, you retained about 70% of the assets as part of the deal. Since then, you've made a lot of enhancements, whether it's investments in digital or just to the platform more broadly and fast forward to Waddell and now you've retained 95%. So Given that much stronger attention and the favorable experience with Waddell, given all the metrics that have incited, I'm just curious whether that increases your appetite to do more
Yes. So, Steven, it's Dan. So, look, I think we continue to see M and A from a strategy standpoint as Compliment to our organic growth. And as you know, we look across the lens of growth opportunities or acceleration of And so that hasn't changed in our overall strategy. We do believe that If we're good at executing on these transactions, then that becomes An interesting differentiator and an opportunity for us in terms of how we might structure a deal, value a deal, etcetera.
And so, we are staying disciplined on making sure with every acquisition that we learn from those and we apply those insights and learnings such that We can execute better the next time. If you look at the drivers of the difference in these two transactions, I think most of it were Activities that we control or drive where we maybe didn't do them as well back in 2017, 2018 and We did them much better today. Things like being able to automate and streamline the transition of asset and advisors moving from One place to the next. You take the friction out and help them continue to focus on their clients, that's a pretty appealing scenario. Our ability to take a strategy And go deliver it in a simple articulate manner to help advisors understand what that experience Would be like what their structure, what their economics will be like on the other side of that transaction and do it at pace and clear.
You began to create the right dialogues very quickly that lead to good outcomes. And so those are things as Examples that we continue to learn and evolve and get better in terms of our ability to execute. So as we go forward, to your point, Do we think there's continued consolidation both in what I might call the smaller transactions Across the entire spectrum, the larger transactions, yes. Would we continue to have an opening and exploring and potentially participating in some of that consolidation? I think based on our strategy, the absolute answer would be yes.
And to the extent that we get better and better at executing on these, we will use that Insight perspective and advantage to think about how we consider approaching them.
Thanks for that color, Dan. And For my follow-up, I wanted to ask on the centrally managed platform and the assets grew organically at a very impressive 47% rate. It looks like the bulk of the increase in the quarter was tied to BMO onboarding. I was hoping you could speak to what drove such strong demand for the centrally managed product just from those advisors? And should we expect a higher ROA on those assets given the more attractive economics of centrally managed?
Yes. Steve, it's a great observation, in that, you did see solid growth in centrally managed platforms And you're continuing to see that underlying strong baseline Growth in utilization of that platform increased, right? So that didn't change in the Q1 across our entire platform. And as we invest in ad capabilities, Investment content, lower price, we think those centrally managed solutions only become that much more appealing. And then you complement that or add that to, in this case, BMO's utilization of Centrally managed solutions, and that creates a really interesting opportunity, not only for us That are helpful and supportive of large institutions, and then all the way finally to, large institutions or users or models based Approach and our robust centrally managed solution with MWP enables them to leverage both the growing Their advisors have, in this space, the great talent they have to serve and support their clients matched With a platform that is really well aligned with their needs and the way they serve their clients.
And that is a pretty formula that certainly drives higher ROA with the more advisory they do and then the utilization of those centrally managed platforms. Today, BMO's business is about a third advisory, 2 thirds brokerage. So as we go forward, we think our platform is a nice tool to leverage point to help them as they evolve their business in order to serve their clients in the best way possible.
That's great color, Dan. Thanks so much for taking my questions.
Thank you.
Next question comes from the line of Alex Blostein of Goldman Sachs.
Hi, good afternoon everybody. I was hoping to zone in on the retention stats you guys provided, not just for Wood L, but obviously for the book as It looks like you guys are running at about 98% overall retention on the assets. It's quite a bit above from where we've been And I think Dan, you talked about the pandemic being sort of one of the reasons why retention might be strong, albeit maybe temporarily. It feels
like it's sticking around.
So I just wanted to get your updated thoughts on whether or not we should be entering a bit of a new paradigm with the retention of the assets being as high as it's been recently.
Yes, absolutely. As you say, if you look back historically, 3 years, you saw more of A retention rate in the 96% range. We saw if you look over the last 12 months, So retention range in the 97.5% level. So as you've said, We've seen some good stability in that 97% to 98% range for the better part of the Last three quarters, which would indicate there's good staying power beyond the pandemic. As you Turn to what I might call normal movement of advisors in the marketplace.
And so We're encouraged by that. We continue to invest in the model to improve that service experience, expand the capabilities and deliver those to our advisors such that it helps support them operate an efficient practice and effective practice, serve their clients and grow their business. And You would expect retention rates to be pretty sticky. For us, we're trying to manage in that 97% to 98% range and think that's a pretty good solid outcome and a good sustainable place to operate in if we're doing our job of investing in our model, ensuring it's Delivering the right value for our clients.
Got you. Thanks for that. And Matt, a follow-up for you around expenses. I was just hoping Unpack that a little bit. So it sounds like the guidance, obviously does not include any expenses related to what Ellen Reed, Whether it's kind of their expenses coming on or I guess expenses that you anticipate to kind of facilitate the transition, if I'm hearing that correctly.
So Kind of like the $10,000,000 annualized EBITDA drag, for instance, that you're highlighting in the second quarter. That expense is not in your full year expense guide. Just want to, I guess, I guess secondarily, as you guys pointed out in the slide, Q1 core G and A run rate is below the full year guide. So you anticipate a bit of a ramp.
I'll answer. I think so you're correct. I think that the guidance of 9.75 That's excluding 1L. And the reason for that is just as we ramp up both on the EBITDA side As well as the acquisition costs. I think our perspective was the way to give you the most clarity on that is to really keep them separate, Knowing that, what else, between both the revenues and gross profit and expenses, we're going to be ramping over roughly a year period to that $80,000,000 run rate.
So I think that's the way to think about it. I think obviously when we get to the other side, everything will be put together from a dialogue and a guidance standpoint. I think We think that'll be the most clear path and way to understand the core or existing business, if you will, as well as how and when Waddell comes on board. So I think that covers questions 1 and 2. Question 3 on how the existing business is ramping, and it's really pretty What you've seen in prior years, which is you kind of steadily ramp throughout the year, meaning the Q1 run rate, I think probably the premise of your question The genesis of your question is where our run rate right now is kind of below the low end of that range, and it's just that natural ramping during the year.
I think you saw that last year as well. So that would be our expectation this year. Great. Thanks for that. Yes.
Next question comes from the line of Craig Siegenthaler of Credit Suisse.
Thanks, guys. I had a follow-up on Steve's earlier question on the centrally managed platform. We know this business is highly gross Profit, ROA and ROCA accretive, but can you walk us through the math relative to your advisory assets that are not on the Sensi Managed platform?
Yes, Craig. I think the dynamics haven't really changed. I think Centuri Manage usually adds about 10 basis points. I think we've got good disclosures in our investor deck on that. So I think the dynamics there are really pretty similar That's what we have there.
I think what I would add and note specific to BMO, just to build on Dan's comments earlier, because that was a big driver and essentially managed For the quarter, as when you look at those large financial institutions, right, those are contracts that are negotiated overall. And specific to Large financial institutions, they typically start with a high percentage of brokerage, which brokerage assets overall are in that 15 to 20 basis point range. And just given the positive mixes at BMO that Dan highlighted, a third of the assets in advisory and then a lot of that going into centrally managed, I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that BMO will be at the higher end of that range. The only thing I would add is similar to M and A, those Contracts usually there's some ramping, right? The 1st couple of years usually have some incentives, not dissimilar for what we're just talking about on the ramp for what Alan Reed.
So As that ramp occurs, just as an overall point on BMO really coming out of the high concentration in advisory and centrally managed, You've got a really accretive, from a margin standpoint versus our current margin, on that business. So hopefully that helps.
Thanks, Matt. And just circling back on cash sweep, how should we think about the near term opportunity to reinvest $6,000,000,000 of overflow balances.
Yes. I think when you look at the kind of the floating side of the sweep dynamic. It's really pretty similar what's going on the fixed contract side and that there's just not a lot of new demand. So if you think about those contracts in a normalized environment, you typically see them at a spread of 20 basis points to 30 basis points versus Fed Funds. And in this environment, you're really seeing them kind of Fed Funds flat to Fed Funds minus 5.
So I think that's kind of how I think of the marginal investment rates there. And this maybe give you just a little bit of color on those as those things mature, Right. When you think about floating rate contracts, the nature of those are usually a 1 to 2 year contracts that typically roll into new periods pretty often. So just to give you context for us for the rest of the year, if you look past the Q2 guidance I gave on ICA overall, so kind of looking in the second half of the year, And if the contracts that mature in that period, if they if we invest reinvest all of them, Craig, to your question in current rates, That would bring the overall ICA yield down by just a couple of basis points by the end of the year. So it's a relatively small reinvestment risk there.
And then add to that with no additional fixed maturities in the second half of the year, kind of gives you, I think, a good perspective on overall ICA rates. There's not a lot of downside risk, at least in the current environment, in the second half of the year. You're talking mid-90s to low-90s is the way to think about it.
Great. Thank you, Matt.
Next question comes from the line of Michael Cyprys of Morgan Stanley.
Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to circle back on the business solutions. I think you had quoted about $19,000,000 of revenue annualized. I was just hoping you could maybe Help us appreciate the profit margin on that, the gross profit contribution to that.
And then just also maybe you can elaborate a little bit on some of the initiatives you have in place on expanding that out and growing the penetration within the existing advisor base?
You want to take the economics on the first half and I'll get Yes,
you got it. So, hey Mike, I think that when you look at business solutions, I think that there's 2 ways to think through it. First is on the economics and I would think of it As a capability and a product that's generating fee revenue like we discussed. And then addition to that, I think probably one of the more interesting parts of business solutions It's really what that positions advisors that are utilizing them to do, right. It's about us helping them Really run their small business in a really efficient and effective way that frees them up to be focused on the wealth management Right, to deliver same store sales and grow their practices or position them to do acquisitions with our new M and A solution.
So I would really view the financial benefits of business solutions really in a holistic way for the entire firm given the different types So dynamics that
that can drive. Yes. And maybe to build on your product roadmap question, As we look at our different options and alternatives to expand the portfolio and thus reach either more LPL Advisors and or Sell existing advisors additional services. This again is based on the premise That they are engaging in many of these services at a local level. So our concept is we can offer them at a higher quality and perhaps At a cheaper cost, a pretty appealing combination.
And so if you think about our roadmap today, You've got the original three offerings, which were admin solution, a CFO solution and a marketing solution. So what we're doing with each one of those is, is we're exploring can we create new variations of those offerings of which might have a narrower value proposition, a lower price point and solve a specific problem or challenge That an advisor has to address on a weekly, monthly reoccurring basis. And so we are working inside our product portfolio across that Higher spectrum of offerings to come up with new iterations on that. And you'll see a couple under the CFO solution, One that we're about to begin to go to pilot in, in Q2 that I mentioned earlier and that was a derivative of And so that's kind of innovation area number 1 of the roadmap. The second one is we continue to Experiment with new capabilities or new solutions.
A great example of that would be experimenting with Paraplanning, if you will, a whole new offering with respect to the professional services portfolio, but one that we're Testing right now out in the marketplace, learning, iterating and potentially will become a whole new solution, if you will, to that portfolio. That would be an example of a new solution. M and A solution would have fit into that category of new offerings. And so Those are the 2 primary places that we tend to explore, how do we expand the product roadmap and thus Create more and more value that our advisors can leverage to replace that spend that we estimate is close to 1 point
Got it. Thanks. And maybe just a quick follow-up here just on the expense side. It looks like the share based comp and D and A were both up Meaningfully on a sequential and year on year basis, I know you gave some guidance into the Q2. But just curious, I guess, any color on what's driving that?
And how you would expect this to sort of trend over the next couple of years, should these lines grow in line with AUM growth or something else or some multiplier to that?
Yes. On share based comp, and you see this dynamic each year, Q1 is typically the highest quarter, Q2 kind of close and then then it drops down in the second half of the year. And it's really about the timing of those grants that kind of drives that dynamic. So that's on share based comp. On depreciation, I think a little bit of context there.
The depreciation and amortization is largely driven by our technology spend. And obviously, that's the area where we're focused on developing Capabilities that are key drivers of organic growth. And I think the key P and L dynamic to note that you probably know, but I'll highlight anyways is that the expense really Changes when you deploy the technology, not when you're spending the money. And when you look at Q1, we just had some larger projects That we deployed and rolled out. Dan covered a few of them in his prepared remarks.
So that really started the depreciation and expense associated with that. So if you look at the few quarters leading up to this quarter, you saw relatively low or small increases in depreciation, and we would expect a similar dynamic in the next So it's really just that kind of concentrated deployment. The overall tech spend trends have been pretty consistent and unchanged from our overall
Next question comes from the line of Chris Harris of Wells Fargo.
Great, thanks. So, you guys are I mean, LPL is just growing so incredibly fast right now. Can you maybe talk a bit about how you guys are Feeling about the platform from a capacity perspective? In other words, you have the capacity in place, the service in place to be able to support All the incremental growth you're seeing and expected to see?
Yes, it's a great question. And I think it goes back To the start of our mission, right? We got to take care of our advisors so they can take care of their clients, which means We got to make sure that we're there for them day in, day out from a service experience standpoint, that our platform has the stability necessary to leverage it and utilize it. And then ultimately, we're providing them the capabilities to create efficient workflows and capabilities to help them differentiate with their with their clients and continue to win. And we've got to make sure that we give them the tools necessary to Pivot their businesses into a multichannel service business where it's no longer just in person, they got to do it in a combined digital and in person way.
So there's a tremendous opportunity for this platform to show up and support and Well, that we've got the technology and engineering capabilities of which to build The tools that are necessary and scale the platform, we've got to make sure that we've got the fine tuning, the testing, the utilization of AI To help us with respect to the risk management of our overall platform and stability, privacy, etcetera So that operating muscle to be really strong to execute on our plan comes first and foremost for us. Love to tell you we're perfect at it. We also have to have the humility to constantly listen to feedback and if we're not getting something right, to quickly focus on addressing it and iterating And then ultimately, getting better because of it. And so I think that's a principle and a foundation of how we operate and execute. Then we got to make sure that we're investing in the right people, attracting the right talent that we've got the right size talent So that comes number 2, what are our operating metrics?
How do we observe measure, how we operate not on a weekly or monthly basis, But on a daily basis, so that we can take that data, learn from it, fine tune, revise, iterate, etcetera, to make Sure that we can be the best that we can be every day. And then finally, we got to be investing in technology and automation that helps us scale. So you can scale into bursts of growth or you can constantly with Consistent sustainable growth that you are constantly improving and enhancing your performance because you're able to digitize and automate it From end to end throughout the ecosystem, not to mention the benefits that you get from a scalability from an economic standpoint By doing that, so we continue to work on that, introducing robotics, deploying AI and machine learning throughout our ecosystem in order to do So, we've got a lot of passion for doing it. We're not perfect. We hold ourselves Uber accountable to our NPS scores.
We've got room to And it's priority 1 for the firm. I hope that helps.
Great. It does. Thank you.
Next question comes from the line of Jerry O'Hara from Jefferies. Jerry, your line is now open.
Maybe circling back to Business Solutions, just curious if you have tracked or have kept any data points around The overlap amongst advisers as it relates to the various different solutions, it almost strikes me as though if you could kind of Get the adoption of 1 such as admin solution or CFO solution that could work as a gateway to additional, But not sure if you've sort of tracked that or seen that metric develop.
I think that's great strategic Utility and I think that is a good hypothesis and a premise that we are seeing trend Once someone is engaged in a service, if they're having good success and it's a good leverage point, there's a higher propensity to use Another one, I think as we iterate on the portfolio and expand the different offerings and you create As an example, not just a holistic CFO offering, but you can take elements of what a CFO's role might The bookkeeping as an example or FP and A work and you're able to create discrete products Out of things like that, I think your premise of sort of a land and expand strategy makes even more sense. And so There's more to play out on that as we evolve our product roadmap. But we are trying to So be digital first and use data of which to learn and understand how our clients are engaging with us both so that we can improve our offering, better Deliver a better service experience to them across this portfolio.
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good question.
Okay, fair enough. And then perhaps you can remind us what the mix on the $100,000,000,000 of assets that's going to be onboarded across the 2 banks and Weddell as it relates to fee based advisory versus more traditional commission based business. I think you just sort of Highlighted earlier the BMO mix, but if you could just kind of remind us what that aggregate split is, that would be helpful.
Yes, Jerry, I think we can be directional here. I think to the point on BMO, they're a little bit higher on the advisory side than your typical large institution, right, meaning the M and T would be more focused on the brokerage side. And then what else? I As we're near closing and then on boarding, I think we'll give you more specifics on that in the near future.
Okay, fair enough. Thanks for taking my questions this evening.
Next question comes from the line of Brennan Hawken from UBS. Brennan, your line is now open.
Great. Thanks for taking my questions. This one, you might be It has been answered by the last question on Waddell and the fact that more details are coming. But I wanted to follow-up on Alex's question earlier To see whether or not we could get some maybe some more granularity on the profile of what it will look like, our FA is going to ramp Over time, over that year or is there how should we assume That will come on board, both the revenues and the expenses when we think about modeling it. Or was your last comment basically to say that you're not really in a position to say and we got to hold our horses for these questions.
Yes. So I think it's affected A little bit in between those two points. I think if you look at we did some updated disclosures in our key metric materials, if you have those handy, I'll speak to them on Pages But I think you've got the mix of Liddell at the time we announced the deal, which is a little bit over 50% brokerage, So, 45 percent advisory, 55 percent brokerage. At least you can see what it looked like back then. I think on the ramp, I'd highlight a few things.
And this is where we added some detail on Slide 8, just to think about our path from closing, which could be as early as Tomorrow to hitting that run rate EBITDA of $80,000,000 And there's really, I think, 3 broad steps that are happening that would drive it. And that's why I was giving a little bit of color on earlier. It's 1st and foremost is really adding the resources and technology expenses, Maybe to build a little bit on the question Dan was just answering, just to make sure that we are in a position to receive what all the And to onboard the advisors a few months after that. So the expenses start first. I think then onboarding, we think It will happen a few months after closing, so call it a few months from now.
And that's really where the gross profit synergy start, right, once the Advisors and their assets are on our platform. And then following that, it's really your classic M and A integration work to get the expense And we think that will take about a full year from close. You kind of put all that together and that's I think a pretty good road map from here till hitting that run rate EBITDA and using that timeline that I just walked Kind of by the end of Q2 of next year of 2022.
And Matt, maybe one helpful comment relative to your gross profit point. Because this is an acquisition, the ramp of the advisors is different than a normal recruiting scenario. So the assets and the Advisors will all come over in mass. So let's say we close tomorrow, let's just say 3 months later, the assets come over, over And the advisors come over, over a weekend. And so they will be all on our platform.
So your ability to begin ramping from that point is solid and a little different from recruiting where you ramped in over time. So hopefully that gives you a little more color.
It does. Thanks. It almost sort of suggests it's more like a step function than a ramp to some degree. So thanks for that. Also kind of curious about thinking about the impact of the reopening of the economy and the idea that There's a couple of different perspectives I'm curious about.
Number 1, from a recruiting perspective, is that going to put a bit more Spence back into the recruiting effort versus before or are have you learned that you can be so much more efficient recruiting In a Zoom world that you just you'll keep a lot of the recruiting efforts to Zoom, that one angle. And then from another angle, Thinking about the advisors and the net new assets over the past year, how much of those Has the amount that normally comes from an advisor's existing book of business been impacted by the fact that they can't do prospecting Dinners or seminars or what have you. And do you expect that that might start to kick back in Now that people will be coming back to restaurants and whatnot, and maybe what kind of an impact do you think that could have? Sorry for the multipartner.
No, there's a lot there. So let me give you a directional answer of that just to I think to give you some guidepost and in some places not to try to be overly precise on something we don't exactly know, right? So with respect to recruiting, your first part of your question, I think the Short answer is it does not go back to what it was before, but it doesn't necessarily stay what it is today. And I do believe that we've continued to recruit throughout. We've had Some people doing some travel throughout.
We've been incurring some expense relative to our business development Right, the sort of the core G and A expenses associated with that. But we have used You will on how to do that and acceptable ways to do that and gotten better at it over the years. So I actually think you'll see a mix We'll use technology where it's more efficient, it's less wear and tear and quite frankly it's more appealing for the advisors or the prospect As well as for our business development resources, as an example. And then where we do need to travel and where we do make a difference In face to face, we will absolutely do that. So if we do this well, we should find both improved Efficiency and efficacy in our business development efforts.
So that's how I would answer that one. Again, not trying to be overly precise Exactly where the dial goes back to, but I think it's some middle ground. I hope that was helpful to you on the recruiting. On With respect to our advisors, a couple of things. Their baselines changed significantly in the 1st 90 days when the country shut But the pace of reopening, as you know, has been very, very different at a local level across The country and many of our advisors are doing a lot more face to face than what we might would expect living in bigger cities.
And so consequently, I think you've already seen a pivot for a lot of advisors probably more back to that baseline way they did business. But I think the cool part about our advisors being in businesses for themselves, they've got to be quite innovative And have that entrepreneurial spirit, right, of a small business owner. And most have added this digital capability to their repertoire. So now they've got 2 ways of which to serve clients, which again opens up the aperture of their opportunity to increase the size of their book, Find more efficient ways to engage with clients and then ultimately provide a mix Those that would rather meet in person versus those that are good doing it over the video. And you now redefine geography for them by doing that as well.
And so We actually think this becomes a really interesting opportunity for our advisors as a catalyst to enhance the service experience, Expand the flexibility around it and ultimately use that as a catalyst for growth. Do I think they're going to get back to doing dinners full time like they used to? No, but I do think that dial will go back to, what is, how that advisor uniquely wants to run their practice. So you'll see probably a spectrum of different outcomes depending on the advisor themselves and their clients.
And there are no further questions at this time. I will turn it back to Mr. Arnold.
Yes. Thanks everyone for taking the time to join us this afternoon and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Stay safe.
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