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H.C. Wainwright Global Investment Conference

May 24, 2022

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Good morning, and thanks for joining us to have a conversation with Timothy Wright, CEO, and Robert Stein, Executive Vice President, R&D of MiMedx. MiMedx is a leader in wound care and regenerative medicine. The company currently commercializes a portfolio of amniotic tissue products, bringing in nearly $250 million in annual revenues and has portfolio of products for novel indications that could enter the market over the next three years. To talk about the company's strategy for 2022 and beyond, I welcome Timothy Wright and Robert Stein to this fireside chat with me. Tim and Bob, glad to see you both, and I appreciate you accepting our invitation to talk to our audience today. Let us start talking through some of your thoughts on the commercial growth in 2022, and then about the long-term strategy with Bob both organically and inorganically.

Tim, to set the stage for our audience, you know, could you please highlight your business model and the broad wound care market in which MiMedx is slowly but certainly becoming a major player?

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Sure, RK, thank you for the invitation. Our whole effort here is to be a leader in placental biologics, which we think is a new category in medicine. We plan to lead scientifically as well as commercially. If you look at the way we've structured our organization, we have a deep focus on wound care, but now we've moved into an adjacency in surgical recovery or surgical repair. This is based on the intensive work that we've done to really take a look at the markets where we can play. We did an extensive research exercise back in 2021, where we looked at, for example, 63 use cases in surgery where our products would have an application. These are just the products that we have in our portfolio today.

We're building new products to enhance our presence in the surgical recovery space. Now, on the wound care side, we know that that's growing in high single digits growth there. As you know, we are the pioneers with our products in this wound care space by creating these skin substitutes from human placental tissue. Now, on the other side, in the surgical recovery space, that's also another market which is a little bit larger probably than the wound care space. What it does for us, it allows us to go from wound care, which is about a $1.1 billion market, into another billion-dollar market. It allows us to leverage and amortize the value of our existing products. We're very excited about the surgical space.

Of course, we see a lot of growth there in addition to the unmet, under-penetrated reality that exists in wound care. Now, when you talk about our business model, it's pretty straightforward. Our strategy is basically to be where the patient needs us the most. With the way we deploy our sales organization and our marketing efforts around three distinct segments, the hospital segment, the wound clinics, and then private practice. Our sales are distributed about a third equally across there. We also have a significant presence in the federal system, where we have the dedicated group of veterans who are calling on the VA systems for us as there.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Very good. When you look at your competition, how do you regard your products versus competition? As there are obviously multiple amniotic products in the market.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. Well, as you know, there are many, many ways to treat wounds, from dressings to devices to biologics. Now, we compete in this biologics segment that we basically pioneered. There are a lot of products out there that do various things. There are many, many different treatment modalities. We focus in this biologics space where a skin substitute is appropriate. Now, I do think the big differentiating characteristics of our product and our whole entire portfolio is based on the science that we generate. With Dr. Stein and myself, we're very focused on data generation, both on the efficacy side and the safety side, as well as health economic data. Reimbursement in all these areas is very important. Obviously, in the wound care setting, it's a different type of reimbursement system than in the hospital setting. It's mainly DRG-driven there.

No matter what the reimbursement system is, you do need clinical data, you do need safety data, efficacy data, as well as pharmacoeconomic data to make sure your products get covered and reimbursed. This is one thing I think that differentiates us, the evidence around our products of their efficacy, the health economic data. Our sales force is the best in the business. We've done a great job of recalibrating our sales organization and focusing that down. The other thing is we have the broadest coverage of commercial insurance of any of our competitors. You don't need to take my word for it. You can just look at the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality study that was done. There was a meta-analysis. They looked at 240+ studies and 76 skin substitutes.

Now, of the 76 skin substitutes, only 22 really made it from a safety and efficacy and health economic standpoint. Five of those were MiMedx products. Not only does MiMedx have the most data out there, but it has the highest quality.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Great.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

There's also, in addition to all the points that Tim made, the placenta is a remarkable organ. It's got over 300 biologically active proteins in it, and it creates the environment where a single cell can grow into an 8 or 9 lbs baby over the course of nine months. It's been evolving over 170 million years to have an optimized mix of components. What MiMedx has done is they've worked out a very important process for taking that starting material and turning it into a practical medicine that retains those characteristics.

That's something that is, you know, took a lot of engineering and a lot of skill, and they've made it into something that's sterile, that can last for five years and can be taken out of its envelope and put onto a wound and cause the benefit that we're seeking. That is not something that is easy to create. For the sheet products, I think we have uniquely produced powerful medicines from a wonderful starting point.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Mm-hmm.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

We have the whole side of the business where we've taken the starting material that's a sheet product and converting it into forms that are small particles that can be injected under the skin or into knee joints or things like that, to produce many of the good effects and stabilize or remodel damaged tissues in a way that is remarkable. As I've seen the power of this material over the last several years, it really is practically miraculous.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Fantastic. Commercially, even though we had a little hiccup with the Section 351 side of this business, not because of anything from you, but more from the regulators.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yes.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Year-over-year there has been growth since 2020.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yep.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Certainly you made some points of differentiation. Anything else that you would attribute the growth and how sustainable can we expect that to be?

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. We're very confident of the sustainability of our growth pattern here. We guided to 11%-14%. I think we're in great shape there. Year-over-year growth, first quarter was 13.5%, 13.4% to be really accurate. Look, there's plenty of room here. We're working in under-penetrated markets, whether it's in wound care, surgical recovery, they're still under-penetrated. You know, when you have the clinical evidence, you have the health economic evidence, you have insurance coverage, and you have a sales force that is incentivized to basically get more patients treated with better outcomes, that's a good spot to be in. We are going to launch two new products this year, AmnioFix and a product we call PCM. These are gonna play exceptionally well in the surgical recovery space.

We have a goal of launching two new products every year for the sustainable future in our five-year plan. We'll focus on that organic growth. Also we have ideas around inorganic growth as far as doing some tuck-in licensing, things like that, which don't burn a lot of cash, but put a new product in the bag of our sales representative so we can amortize the value of their relationships, their clinical acumen, and their salesmanship.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Fantastic. Talking about new products, you know, you're trying to get reimbursement approved through the Japanese regulators for EPIFIX.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Can we take a minute and talk through what else needs to get done, obviously?

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

How easy or how are you planning the commercialization in Japan as well?

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. You know, I'm glad you asked about Japan. We're really excited about it. You know, it's part of our growth story as well, is not only are we growing in wound care, surgical recovery, but also geographically. We're gonna move into Japan. We got approval in last year, and we're working through the reimbursement aspects of this with the Ministry of Health. I'm very confident we'll be able to launch this year. It's hard to pin down exactly when our reimbursement will be approved, but we're very confident with our key opinion leaders, the training that we've done with the physicians in Japan already at the blessing of the Ministry of Health. So we're preparing this market. If you think about it, MiMedx was a pioneer in this whole skin substitute area using human placental tissue.

There's no amniotic tissue in Japan, so, you know, I look at it as first-mover advantage there, and we'll be able to penetrate the market. Our business model there will be a hybrid. We have a small, petite infrastructure there, as well as we use distributors in the outlying areas away from the big city. Really, I think it's a coup for the company to get regulatory approval there. It was very difficult. Our clinical ops team and our regulatory team were fantastic working with the authorities there.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

We also got a very nice label. We have a broad label for use in chronic wounds. It's not restricted to DFU or VLU.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yes.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

It's broader than the indications we have.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Thanks to Robert Stein.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

... in the U.S. Bob, you know, Tim laid out the strategy for the next five years of introducing two new products into the market every year. What are your thoughts about, you know, what sort of products are you thinking of in terms of developing and, you know, getting them to the market?

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

The two new products that Tim was referring to were largely to go into our Section 361 and 510(k) business.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Mm-hmm.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

The goal there is to create best-in-class treatment options for people with chronic wounds.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Mm-hmm

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

or people who have undergone surgery where they're less likely to have a good outcome of healing. As Tim mentioned, we already have the two products in the queue for this year, and we'll be working to create additional products. PCM is placental collagen matrix. That'll initially be a particulate material that'll be a little bit like AmnioFix used to be.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Mm-hmm

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

... before the end of enforcement discretion. That can be reformatted into sheets. It could be reformatted into larger particles. That can be also mixed with other components that would still keep it in the Section 361, 510(k) category. There's a whole future there.

That I think will allow us to create products that fulfill different needs that are encountered either in the chronic wound setting or in surgery, either on the surface at the surgical incision or perhaps at anastomosis, say colonic anastomosis, et cetera. Then there's the whole 351 side of the business where we're working to make biologics that require the more standard regulatory path through BLA filing. The most advanced of those is a particulate made from human amnion and chorion called micronized dehydrated human amnion chorion, or mdHACM. That is gonna go into a registrational trial this year for knee OA. We have very, I think, good evidence that the product works. Not only was it out in practice for many years and 138,000 vials of it were distributed before the end of enforcement discretion.

We have all kinds of real-world evidence that it works in the setting of knee injury, either osteoarthritis or sports injuries or tendinopathies, tennis elbow, plantar fasciitis. We also had a Phase IIb study that we concluded last year that shows that when the product is fresh, it has a remarkable impact on both pain and function. We are very excited about moving that into registrational trials before the end of the year. We didn't meet our intended primary endpoints in that initial study, but we understand what happened there. In the first 190 patients, we had one injection of 40 milligrams of this material into the knee, and then we followed those patients for three and six months. We actually followed them for 12 months. Those data are about to emerge.

What we saw was that saline, as expected in an injectable study, gave a pretty good placebo effect, so pretty good improvements in pain and function. We could see a clear statistically and medically significant improvement over the saline effect with micronized DHACM at three months and six months. It got even greater at six months than it was at three months after a single injection. We also were able to determine that in the next 256 patients, there was no difference between the saline injection and the investigational product injection. We've been able since then to trace that loss of activity to the fact that as the product ages from the time of manufacture, it loses its potency. We have assays that detect that.

We have a way to fix that, and we've got a plan going forward to initiate the registrational studies this year. I'm confident that the product produces an improvement in pain and function, and that it's not only statistically significant, but it's medically significant. You know, it's more than the minimal and important clinical difference. We know how to produce that in a way that will be built into the product for the entire study. We're excited about that. The other thing that we have, I'd say suggestive evidence for, but not conclusive evidence for, both preclinical and clinical, is that this material might actually modify the course of the disease and not just reduce pain. 'Cause if you reduce pain, you can improve function. In preclinical models, the material will protect against cartilage loss in animal models that are pretty good osteoarthritis models.

We know that there are components in there that act on important pathways involved in cartilage health, like the Wnt signaling pathway and blocking inflammation through inhibiting NF-kappa B signal transduction. We're gonna be looking at exploring the possibility that this not only will reduce pain and improve function, but maybe slow the rate of cartilage loss or even perhaps build back some cartilage, and that'd be part of our ongoing investigations.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Talking about that phase III study and upcoming decision. Can you give us a little bit more on the design of the study? Also, since you just start talking about not only reducing pain, but also improving the cartilage life or even building up cartilage, as you said, what sort of endpoints are there? Does FDA have an approved kind of endpoint for these sort of studies?

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

Well, let me tell you a little bit about the design first. We have previous use of the product where 100 milligrams of the product was injected. Dr. Kris Alden did a pretty nice retrospective study to show that 100 milligrams injected into the knee in people with really pretty severe knee OA, KL Grade 3 and 4, produced nice effects on both pain and function. In the study that we did in-house, the phase IIb study, 40 milligrams was used. We have to figure out what the right dose is, and we'll end up doing something where we look at saline versus 40 milligrams versus 100 milligrams to determine the correct dose. We need to understand the correct dose not only for reduction in pain and improvement in function, but also potentially for this disease-modifying activity.

Now, the FDA is pretty, I'd say, behind the times in what they consider to be an endpoint. They want to see one of two endpoints for DMOAD. They haven't approved anything for Disease-Modifying Osteoarthritis Drug yet. What they want is either that you show a decrease in the rate of joint space narrowing by X-ray flat film or that you cause fewer people to need knee replacement. That's a long study. Now, it's doable, but there are much more sophisticated ways to look at the health of cartilage. Most of them involve MRI techniques, and so you can look at inflammation by dynamic contrast-enhanced MRI. You can look at cartilage cap volume.

It's like, think about the polar ice cap and being able to measure the entire thing, the volume and the thickness. You can also measure water content of cartilage, and that has to do with its elastic modulus, so how well it protects against shock. You can look at the quality of the matrix, GAG, glycosaminoglycans, by also MRI techniques. You can look at the underlying trabecular structure and changes in the bone under the cartilage, 'cause that's an indication of how well it's protecting against force transmission. There'll be a lot of things that we can look at in the interim. Those things can be seen in the 3, 6, 12, 18th month range. The joint space narrowing by flat film is an 18- 24 month process usually.

Now, the other thing the agency requires is that not only do you show either slowing of the rate of cartilage loss or build back, but also that you've influenced pain and function. 'Cause they ask, you know, so all right, you put a little bit more cartilage there, but if it's not making the patient any better, why is that a basis for approval?

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Mm-hmm.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

We have the advantage that we know that we modify pain and function. We will be investigating. I don't know that we'll commit to doing a DMOAD study out to two years, but we'll have interim data to look at to decide whether to do that. I actually think there's a pretty good chance that the drug has that effect. Dr. Alden used his studies in patients who had, as I said, pretty severe knee OA, who he thought were gonna need knee replacements. He put them on this as a temporizing measure, and a lot of them ended up not coming back for their knee replacement. They came back and asked for shots in other joints. I think that that's anecdotal, but it's encouraging.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

I think the FDA is very encouraged at the way we're thinking about this particular registrational trial. I think a lot of that is attributed to the team that Bob has built to really focus on this drug side of the business.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

Thank you, Tim. We also have assembled a very good group of people who are expert in all the phases, understanding the basic mechanisms, understanding the clinical practice, understanding the clinical trial designs, understanding the use of imaging, taking cognizance of the regulatory environment. We're trying to put together a really robust package that will determine the quality of our product and that it's effective and safe. I'm confident, and we'll be able to talk about who those folks are pretty soon.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. We're building out a scientific advisory board with the best and brightest. It's pretty important.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

It's not just a hood ornament SAB. It's really somebody, a group of people we're working with closely.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Frankly, picking the right-

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

Important

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Clinical research organization is important too.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

Yeah.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Outside of all this, you know, one of the, as you said, the major issue with what happened in the second quarter was more on the shelf life of the product itself. Are you in this next round, when we are going into the next study, making any changes within the manufacturing paradigm to see that you can gain on the shelf life?

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

We are making a number of changes. I don't wanna say what those are specifically 'cause that's a competitive advantage. What we have done is, previously they had a belief that the shelf life might be five years. We see a pretty clear evidence from the study that we conducted that two years is really the cutoff. We've changed the shelf life and changed the representation of the shelf life with the FDA. We will be using material that's more fresh than was used in the past study. We've also made some changes in how we produce it that I don't think will affect the biological activity, but they will affect the rate at which it loses that activity.

Those are well underway, and so we'll be working with that approach as we take the product forward.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. We believe that you cannot underestimate, in the filing of a BLA, having strong clinical data is one thing, but having a robust CMC package is gonna be absolutely critical.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

Yeah.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

The changes that we're making in our chemistry manufacturing controls are absolutely essential. It builds upon what we've learned in the Purion process. We're gonna be moving to the next generation of Purion called Purion Triplex, which will give us that robust CMC package that we're looking for.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

The good news, by the way, is that none of the concerns about the shelf life duration apply to the sheet products. They really were uniquely applicable to the micronized material that has a lot more surface area and was stored in a different way than the sheet products are. The sheet products were fine.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Correct

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

... the micronized material that had to be adjusted.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Tim, very recently you made this operational change within the business where you set up two different verticals. I know it was more on the operational side of things, but in general, what should investors think about it for the long term? You know, obviously people like me think about, are you trying to divest anything, or is it just operational, you're trying to gain more strength internally?

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. There are two reasons for this. One was operational. We have a growing commercial business, and those products are Section 361 and 510(k) based products. It's completely different in the area of the Section 351 area. On one side you have med device like products, the other side you have drugs. This was obviously driven by the FDA. When I look at focus and, when people come into work every day, what do they wanna focus on? If they're in that commercial unit, their job is to grow that business. John Harper heads up the product development group there. We're gonna be, if you will, cranking out Section 361s and 510(k)s. John's a legend in this space. We've got an excellent team built around him.

It's really focus and having an intensity of winning in those two verticals. Now, on Bob's side of this, as you know, we need to recruit a totally different phenotype for to develop a drug. That goes all the way from developing potency assays all the way through our manufacturing process, and also designing these clinical trials. Now, for our investors, I think what's in it for them is more transparency, particularly on the growth side of our business, how we're using cash, the productivity of our organization. I think that in, as we get out into the future here, being able to isolate from an accounting standpoint what's happening there are gonna be very important for our investors.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Yep. In the last 20 seconds that we have here, talking about cash, can you talk a little bit about your cash runway right now, and also how you're putting your resources in the right places?

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. Yeah. At the end of March 31, we had about $75.7 million in cash. We consumed some cash from over prior year, about $11 million in cash over prior year. We can dive into that, but probably not in 20 seconds. We're in good shape from a cash standpoint. That we will be cash flow neutral in 2022. We will be able to, with that cash, we'll be able to do our registrational trials in knee OA and support product development on the Section 361 and 510(k) side.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Thank you. Thank you both. Thank you, Tim.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Thank you.

Rohit Kashyap
EVP and Chief Commercial Officer, MIMEDX Group

Thanks, Bob, for this, and good luck.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

Yeah. Thank you.

Timothy Wright
CEO, MIMEDX Group

Really appreciate it. Thank you.

Robert Stein
EVP of Research and Development, MIMEDX Group

Good to see you.

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