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Earnings Call: Q4 2020
Feb 12, 2021
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Mohawk Industries 4th Quarter 2020 Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded today, February 12, 2021. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr.
Frank Boykin. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you, Holly. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Mohawk Industries' quarterly investor conference call. Today, we'll update you on the company's 4th quarter results. I'd like to remind everyone that our press release and statements that we make during this call may include forward looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, those set forth in our press release and our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This call may include discussion of non GAAP numbers.
For a
reconciliation of any non GAAP to GAAP amounts, please refer to our Form 8 ks and press release in the Investors section of our website. Jim Brunk is joining Jeff, Chris, and me on today's call. Jim has been our Corporate Controller since 2009 and was recently announced as my successor. He will officially assume responsibility as Mohawk's CFO effective April 1, and we'll be providing our financial results on today's call.
I'll
now turn the call over to Jeff for his opening remarks. Jeff?
Thank you, Frank. First, I want to congratulate Jim on his new position. I've worked with him for more than 10 years and look forward to Jim further enhancing our business strategies and results in his new role. We had a very strong first quarter and delivered record sales of $2,600,000,000 an increase of 9% as reported with adjusted operating earnings and EPS of $305,000,000 $3.54 The business was stronger than we had anticipated with residential markets outperforming around the globe. Our free cash flow for the 4th quarter was about $248,000,000 after capital investments of $160,000,000 For the year, we generated a record cash flow of more than $1,300,000,000 In the first half of last year, our industry was under enormous stress as the pandemic spread, and we responded to the disruption by minimizing costs, lowering inventory levels, initiating restructuring actions and reinforcing our liquidity.
In the second half, the residential flooring demand recovered significantly faster than expected as people spent more time at home. Meanwhile, commercial flooring demand remains depressed due to business investments being postponed or canceled. Our inventory levels decreased in the 2nd and third periods as sales strengthens and production was limited by capacity, workforce absenteeism and labor shortages. SG and A investments and promotional activities were curtailed during the year to improve our margins. The pandemic created substantial differences between our segments due to varying restrictions, stimulus, consumer responses and our ability to raise production levels.
Our revenues and operating income rebounded and surpassed the prior year for both the Q4 and the second half. Our 4th quarter results exceeded our expectations as we posted our highest ever quarterly sales even with increasing COVID cases around the world. All of our markets saw strengthening residential purchases with laminate LVT and sheet vinyl outperforming other flooring categories. Our residential performance was partially offset by a weak commercial market in the regions where we have more significant business in that channel. Our results were improved by higher volumes, restructuring and greater leverage on costs, while being adversely affected by lower production runs in inventory, absenteeism and labor shortages in some operations.
We are also seeing greater inflationary pressures in many product categories and we are increasing prices to recover. Our Flooring Rest of the World segment continued to outperform with significant sales growth, higher operating leverage and improved productivity. The segment delivered further improvements in LVT production and cost, which enhanced our performance in the period. Our Global Ceramic and Flooring North America segments also improved, although both experienced a greater impact from commercial headwinds. Through the Q4, we achieved about $50,000,000 of the projected $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 in anticipated savings from our restructuring initiatives.
We continue to assess some projects based on changing market conditions. After paying off our short term debt and pre funding our longer term maturities in the Q2, our net debt leverage is at historical low. Our strong financial position gives us flexibility to pursue additional opportunities, including internal investments, acquisitions and stock purchases. Since the Q3, we have acquired approximately 1,000,000 shares of our stock for $130,000,000 as part of our share repurchase plan. Since the pandemic began, our organization has been protecting one another and supporting our customers around the world.
We are mitigating the spread of COVID utilizing best practices while testing and tracking employees with potential contacts. I'll now turn the call over to Jim.
Thank you, Jeff. I would like to add that I'm both honored and excited about Sales exceeded $2,600,000,000 for the quarter, a Sales exceeded $2,600,000,000 for the quarter, a 9% increase as reported or 5.5% on a constant basis, with our Flooring Rest of the World segment outperforming. Q4 had 2 additional shipping days in most businesses. And as you consider 20 21's financial projections, please remember to take into account the following items. Across most of our businesses, Q1 has 3 additional days or approximately 5% more, and Q4 has 4 fewer days or approximately 6% less compared to prior year.
This year sales should continue higher growth and full year operating margin should improve. Our Q2 comps were very low and the second half comps were more difficult with the rebound that occurred last year. Also last year in Q3 and Q4, there was less time off for holidays for our customers and us. Time off should be greater this year. Now coming back to the P and L.
Gross margin was 27.9% as reported or 28.8 percent excluding charges, increasing 120 basis points from 27.6% in the prior year. The year over year increase was driven primarily by higher volume of $51,000,000 productivity of $50,000,000 and lower inflation of $21,000,000 partially offset by price mix of $30,000,000 SG and A as reported was 17.2% or 17.3% versus 19.1% in the prior year, both excluding charges. The lower SG and A percent was driven by improved leverage on increased volume and stronger productivity of $21,000,000 Operating income as reported was 10.7%. Restructuring charges for the quarter were $22,000,000 and our restructuring initiatives are on track, with year to date savings accounting for approximately $50,000,000 of our announced $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 plan. Operating margin excluding charges, dollars 305,000,000 or 11.6%, improving from 8.4% last year or 3 20 basis points.
This increase was driven by productivity of $71,000,000 stronger volume of $42,000,000 and reduced inflation of $12,000,000 partially offset by the previously noted unfavorable price mix of $30,000,000 Interest expense of $16,000,000 including the impact of our new 2020 bond offerings, and we expect Q1 to be approximately $16,000,000 to $16,500,000 Other income of $7,000,000 driven by favorable transactional FX and short term investment returns. Our Q4 non GAAP tax rate at 14.8% versus 18.9% in the prior year, benefiting in part from the U. S. CARES Act. We expect Q1 2021 to be approximately 21%.
Earnings per share as reported of $3.49 or excluding charges of 3.54 dollars growing 57% year over year. Now turning to the segments. Global Ceramic had sales of $920,000,000 a 7% increase as reported with the business up 6% on a constant basis, with growth across all geographies, the largest increase being in Brazil and Russia. Operating income, excluding charges of $88,000,000 at 9.5 percent return, that's up 65% or 3.30 basis points versus prior year. The increase was from productivity of $28,000,000 volume of $16,000,000 and lower shutdown expense of $4,000,000 partially offset by unfavorable price mix of $12,000,000 and unfavorable FX of $4,000,000 Flooring North America sales of 963,000,000 dollars or 3% increase as reported or flat on a constant basis, led by strength in our residential focused products, offset by the weakness in the commercial channel.
Operating income, excluding charges, of $91,000,000 or 9.5 percent. That's an increase of 27% or 180 basis points compared to prior year. This increase was driven by higher productivity of 26,000,000 dollars lower inflation of $7,000,000 and increased volume of $3,000,000 partially offset by price mix of $18,000,000 Employing Rest of the World with sales of $759,000,000 a 20% increase as reported or 13% on a constant basis, driven by our resilient laminate and panels businesses in Europe and our carpet business in Australia and New Zealand. Operating income excluding charges of $138,000,000 or 18.2 percent, up 4.20 basis points or 57% versus prior year. The main drivers were the higher volume of 23,000,000 dollars improved productivity of $16,000,000 and lower inflation of $8,000,000 partially offset by unfavorable FX of approximately $1,000,000 Corporate eliminations came in at $12,000,000 and you would expect 2021 to be approximately $40,000,000 Turning to the balance sheet.
Cash and short term investments increased over $1,300,000,000 driven by the Q4 free cash flow of $248,000,000 bringing the full year 2020 full year cash flow free cash flow to approximately $1,300,000,000 Receivables were just over $1,700,000,000 with DSO improving to 59 days versus the prior year 62 days Inventories, just over $1,900,000,000 dropped almost $400,000,000 or 16% from prior year, with a marginal sequential increase of approximately $30,000,000 adjusting for FX from Q3. Inventory days are at 103 days versus 134 days in the prior year. Property, plant and equipment just under $4,600,000,000 with CapEx of $160,000,000 for the quarter, in line with our D and A. And full year CapEx was $426,000,000 with D and A of just over $600,000,000 We estimate that 2021 annual CapEx to be in line with our D and A of approximately $590,000,000 And lastly, the balance sheet and cash flow remained very strong with gross debt of just over $2,700,000,000 total cash and short term investments, as previously noted, over $1,300,000,000 leading us to a leverage of 1x adjusted EBITDA. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Chris, who will provide details on our 4th quarter performance.
Thank you, Jim. Sales for our Flooring Rest of World segment increased 20% in the period as reported or 13% on a constant basis, significantly exceeding our forecast. Margins expanded over last year 17.5% as reported or 18.2% excluding restructuring charges due to higher volume and positive leverage on SG and A and operations, partially offset by currency headwinds. Sales and margins were strong in most categories and geographies with most of our plants operating near capacity in the Q4. Raw material costs began to rise in many of our product categories and we are taking pricing actions to respond to the increases.
Laminate, the segment's largest flooring category delivered significant growth in the period across most of our markets. Our margins increased as higher volumes drove greater absorption of manufacturing and SG and A costs, while increased productivity and better throughput enhanced our results. We continue to focus on our premium collections that feature superior visuals and waterproof technology. Our service levels showed improvement during the period, though they remain below our standards. To satisfy higher demand for existing products, we chose to postpone introductions of our next generation laminate collections in most markets.
Our LVT sales increased substantially in the quarter led by accelerated growth of our rigid collections. Both our LVT margins and profitability improved due increased volume, lower production cost and SG and A absorption. We have increased staffing to operate all LVT lines 7 days per week. We are introducing new collections with enhanced visuals and exclusive watertight joints that better prevent water damage. We are implementing price increases in our LVT collections to compensate for rising material costs.
Our sheet vinyl business rebounded as our retailers reopened their shops and our export markets picked up. Our plants ran at high production levels that reduced our operating costs, though unfavorable currency partially offset. All of our European sheet vinyl plants were running near capacity, and we've announced price increases. Our greenfield Russian sheet vinyl plants volume has grown to a level that its margins are in line with our other businesses. We have completed the consolidation of our wood operations in Malaysia.
During the period, our production was impacted by equipment installation and transportation challenges due to COVID. The equipment from our closed European plant has now been installed, and we are improving our throughput and wood sourcing strategies. Our wood panels performed well in the period with sales limited by customized mezzanine floors is growing as greater e commerce sales have increased the need for warehouse space. To cover rising material costs for our wood panels, we're also implementing price increases. Product mix continues to improve due to a higher share of stylized products due to sales investments to increase project specifications.
We are expanding our capacity in melamine products to further improve our margins. In insulation, volume was good, though our margins were impacted by significant material inflation due to supply constraints. We have implemented a price increase and have announced another to keep pace with the rising costs. Demand for the category remains strong, enhanced by government incentives for energy savings. Sales in Australia and New Zealand were strong in Q4 and margins improved with higher volume and lower material costs from our longer supply chain.
We enhanced our market position with more aggressive sales initiatives and by providing more consistent service under difficult circumstances. We have leveraged our relationship with carpet retailers to expand sales of our hard surface products. Our results are benefiting from upgrades to our carpet and hard surface offering, manufacturing assets and distribution capabilities that we've implemented since we acquired Godfrey Hirst. For the quarter, our Global Ceramics segment sales rose 7% as reported with improved results across the world led by growth in the residential channel from heightened remodeling and home sales. Operating margins for this segment expanded to 8.7% as reported or 9.5% excluding restructuring costs due to higher volume and improved productivity, somewhat reduced by commercial product mix and currency.
Our Brazilian and Mexican businesses delivered record quarterly sales and expanded margins even with inflationary headwinds. Manufacturing constraints and low inventories limited growth in most of our regions. Material, energy and transportation costs are rising, and we are increasing prices in most markets to offset these pressures. Our U. S.
Ceramic business delivered strong residential sales growth, while commercial remained challenged as businesses defer investments. Our service centers are experiencing improved customer traffic due to higher home sales and remodeling activity. The home center channel outperformed with increased demand and inventory replenishments. To provide additional features and benefits, we are expanding our higher value collections with high gloss polished tiles, antimicrobial treatments and matching floor and wall combinations. We have announced price increases across most of our collections to pass through higher transportation costs.
Our ceramic plant productivity and cost improved during the period due to higher volumes and continued process improvements. Our restructuring initiatives are progressing, and we should complete our ceramic plant consolidations by the end of the Q1. Our countertop business is increasing substantially with sales of our quartz products growing significantly. Our quartz countertop production, cost and margins continue to improve our results we are increasing our mix with higher value stylized products. Our Mexican ceramic business delivered its best quarterly sales and performance even with capacity constraints.
Our margins improved with higher productivity, partially reduced by inflation and product mix. Our inventories declined and our backlog remains high as we ended the period. Our customers have opened 30 Dal Tile stores in the country, which will enhance our sales and strengthen our brand. To cover rising inflation, we have announced price increases. Brazil also delivered record sales in the period with all channels performing well.
Our margins improved due to increased volume and productivity, partially offset by inflation in product mix. Our Brazilian plants are operating at capacity and have been allocating production to customers. Our backlog remains high, and we are increasing price to recover inflation. We're investing to further upgrade our manufacturing assets this year. For the quarter, our European ceramic sales and profitability were above last year.
Some Southern European economies were more affected by COVID and have remained softer than other regions. Our residential sales were stronger with more competitive pricing and lower commercial sales negatively impacting our product mix and margins. We are launching differentiated collections to improve our mix with small sizes, large porcelain slabs, outdoor products and enhanced design technology. In the period, our service levels improved with the plants operating at higher rates, though inventories remain low due to higher demand. Our Russian ceramic business delivered strong results during the period, even with inflation and currency headwinds.
Sales rose significantly in all channels led by new residential construction, which benefited from historically low interest rates. To meet higher demand, we ran more production by limiting holiday shutdowns. We are successfully ramping up our new premium sanitary ware manufacturing and will expand it further this year. The sanitary ware complements our ceramic tile collections will enhance our product offering in our owned and franchised stores. For the period, our Flooring North America sales increased 3% as reported and our adjusted margins expanded 8.6% as reported or 9.5% excluding restructuring costs.
We had strong growth in the residential channel, offset by lower commercial, which improved from its low base in prior periods. Our service levels improved as we increased production in the period, though high demand required allocating some products. Due to higher demand and COVID disruption in our plants, our inventories did not grow as we anticipated. To improve our margin and mix, we're launching many innovative products that address the needs of families spending more time at home. We are taking pricing action in most products due to rising material, labor and transportation costs.
We have executed a large part of our restructuring initiatives, which is benefiting our results with some of the savings flowing through inventory in future periods. Some of our operations were inhibited by increased absenteeism and labor shortages due to COVID, and we anticipate higher production levels will improve our service and our inventory positions. Our residential carpet sales grew during the period as comfort and noise reduction have become more important to consumers. The demand for residential carpet is strong and our sales momentum should be solid. We have taken many actions to improve our productivity, including rationalizing our product offering and reducing our operational complexities.
Our restructuring actions have lowered our overhead and improved our cost and yields. Our new carpet collections will provide improved margins while offering superior styling, features and value. We're introducing SmartStrand collections with a new patented hypoallergenic backing, making installation faster and recycling easier. We're adding new pattern technologies and expanding our unique continuum polyester collections made from recycled bottles. We've announced price increases due to increasing inflation in materials, labor and transportation.
Our commercial business has improved from its bottom but remains depressed along with the retail, hospitality office and aviation sectors. Our commercial hard surface sales are outperforming carpet, and we have improved our online tools to make it easier for designers to select and customize our products. We're managing our cost structures, which have been deleveraged by lower volume, and we have announced price increases across our product offering. Our laminate business is growing substantially in all channels as our unique visuals and waterproof technology have become desirable alternatives to both natural wood and LVT. Our plants are running at capacity to meet the exceptional demand, and we're supplementing domestic production with laminate sourced from our worldwide operations.
We have executed numerous process enhancements to increase our laminate and board production. And by the end of the year, a new line should be operational with additional capabilities. We announced a price increase on our laminate collections because of rising costs. We have repurposed a plant in Virginia to manufacture a premium wood flooring collection that has been in development for 4 years. Applying our exclusive technologies, we created a truly waterproof wood flooring with dramatically improved scratch, dent and wear resistant for today's active households.
We've also updated our other wood collections to align with evolving market trends. Sales of both our LVT and sheet vinyl improved substantially during the period, supported by in new housing starts and residential remodeling. We have multiple engineers from our European business working in our U. S. Operations to implement demonstrated improvements to increase output, reduce material cost and enhance product visuals and performance.
We're introducing updated residential and commercial products with our new Watertight technology that will improve our mix and margins. As in other categories, we've announced price increases due to rising material and transportation costs. With that, I'll return the call to Jeff.
Thanks, Chris. Our 4th quarter sales and operating performance were much stronger than we had anticipated. We ran our plants around the world at high levels during the period, but fell short of the inventory build we anticipated. Our operations are taking actions to optimize throughputs and reach our desired service levels. Given present trends, the momentum of our residential business should remain strong, while commercial should slowly improve from its trough.
We will benefit from structural improvements in our costs and innovative new products that will enhance our mix. Most of our COVID most of the COVID restrictions around the world have not directly impacted the sales or installation of our products. Continued government subsidies and low interest rates should support economic recoveries, new home construction and residential remodeling. We see increasing inflation in most of our product categories and are raising prices in response. Assuming current conditions continue, we anticipate our Q1 adjusted EPS to be between $2.69 $2.79 excluding restructuring charges.
The strength of our organization was demonstrated by our management of last year's historic decline in sales and the subsequent spike in demand while protecting our employees and customers. Our strategies and initiatives remain flexible to adapt to changing economic conditions. With improving sales and cash flow and a strong balance sheet, we are well positioned to take advantage of future
Management requests And our first question is going to come from the line of Susan Maklari with Goldman Sachs.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and congratulations on a great quarter and congratulations to Jim as well. My first question is, I appreciate the color that you gave us around how the business is coming together. But can you help us think through 2021 understanding that there's a lot of momentum as we come into the year, but how should we think about things as we get to the second half perhaps and the comparisons get a lot tougher? Just any color on that cadence as we move through the next couple of quarters?
Let's see if we can give you some more color on that. The trends from the Q4 are continuing into the Q1. Residential remains strong and commercial continues at depressed levels. As we go through the year, we anticipate the economy strengthening more and housing trends remaining positive. At this point, we see commercial coming off the trough, but we do not expect it to rebound to prior levels this year.
Our commercial margins, to remind you, are higher than our residential and have a significant impact on our Flooring North America and Global Ceramic segments. Our SG and A spending, we expect to stay in line this year with the sales growth and full year margin should expand with improved costs and mix. Our production and productivity should be higher with less interruptions, absenteeism improving and increased inventory and cost saving initiatives. All the businesses that we have have upside from last year, but it's not unlimited, and we do not have the normal inventory as a cushion to help us as we go through the year. A weaker dollar will also improve our foreign translated results and the tax rate should go back to normal at around 21%.
If you look at the Q1, it's going to be seasonally stronger than historical, and it's going to have 5% more days in it. As we said, we're raising prices 3% to 8% and sometimes even more given the inflationary pressures that are going on. In the period, we're also still managing absenteeism that's at high rates in some places as well as some supply disruptions in various markets and products. As we go into the Q2, it has low comps and you guys need to adjust the sales relative to the trend line rather than last year. And then last year, as we look at the 3rd and 4th quarters, it rebounded significantly, which is making our comps more difficult in the second half.
As COVID gets under control, we'll have to see how spending on remodeling of homes changes, if at all. We and our customers during those second half periods of 3rd Q4 reduced the holiday time off. That positively impacted revenues as well as margins for both periods. We anticipate more normal conditions in the second half of this year. Then we get to the 4th quarter, again, it has the 6% fewer days this year than last year.
So that's to try to help you with some of the quarterly trends.
Yes. No, that's very helpful, Jeff. Thank you. And my next question is, you mentioned that you're putting 3% to 8% pricing through across a lot of the business. Can you help us think about the timing of that pricing benefit coming through and how that compares to when you'll start to see some of this inflationary pressure coming in?
We're trying to match them up. Some of the increases were announced and implemented at the end of the Q4. They're going in all different times through the Q1 and some could lag into the 2nd quarter in the different channels and pieces. We're trying to get them lined up. We think we're going to be reasonably successful.
The raw material prices, most of the costs are increasing and we don't know if we've seen the end of it as well as the transportation changes. As yet. So we're going to have to stay flexible and keep adjusting with them as we go through. With all this, we expect the annual margins to increase and we're going to have to keep responding to it as it moves.
Right. Okay. All right. That's very helpful. Thanks for the color and good luck.
Thank you. And our
next question will come from the line of Mike Dahl with RBC Capital Markets.
Hi, thanks for taking my questions. And Jeff, that was really helpful color. I wanted to follow-up on Susan's question around price the price increases and more from kind of a net price mix standpoint because clearly there have been periods of time where you've implemented price increases on a like for like basis in recent quarters, but then we're still seeing kind of net negative price mix in some of the segments. You articulated part of that around commercial. But just wondering as you think about this year, given the magnitude of price increases you're implementing, how should we think about kind of that overall net price mix bucket?
Will it still be pressured more by mix? Or should we see it be more neutral this year?
I guess going into the markets first with the increases, it helps that the markets are tighter than they are normally and the inventories are lower across the whole marketplaces. So that should help us implement them better. The price mix, we're hoping to improve the price mix as we change the product offering and improve it as well as as the market gets better. The remodeling part of the market is a stronger part and it's typically higher value products. So the two conditions we're hoping to get the price mix not having the same detriments with all of that this year.
So, overall, it should be positive. But again, you have to look at the impact on inflation as well.
Right.
Okay. Got it. That's helpful. And then, I guess, as a follow-up, just around kind of the cost dynamics between the temporary production benefits of running longer than normal seasonally. I was hoping you could, a, kind of quantify, if possible, how much some of that actually benefited second half of twenty twenty margins and whether or not you're saying margins would then be down off those levels in the second half of '21, which it sounds like could be the case?
And then the second part just on the cost side is really, what do you see as most different this year compared to, call it, 2018 when it proved to be much more difficult to offset some of the inflation that came your way?
Well, let me take the first part of that and then I'll let Jeff respond to the second half. So, I think you have to go back to the Q4. As I said, the price mix being a drag of $30,000,000 but you had strong rebound on productivity of about $71,000,000 for the quarter in total. And part of that would be driven by obviously our restructuring initiatives But as you also point out, we are able to run our assets longer during the quarter, which is certainly going to help from an absorption and a margin standpoint.
I guess related to 2018, there's a lot of differences. We went in and we made decisions to invest in a lot of startup pieces in 2017 2018. And in 2017 2018, we had a lot of cost as those things were coming up. Some of them most of those things are now operating well or reaching the profitability that we want. We mentioned several of them, the quartz countertop business, the plant in Russia, multiple other ones are all coming up.
The LVT in Europe is in line with our rest of our profitability and we're expecting it to catch up this year with the engineers here executing as we speak to change the problems in the United States. At the same time, we had some of our own internal and organizational problems. You know we changed and organization of the Flooring North America business at the same time. And so those are all different this year. And then we're more aggressively trying to push prices through the marketplace and we think it's helpful that our competitors have are tight as well as having other limitations in their own business.
Got it.
Okay. Thanks, Jeff. Thanks, Jim, and congrats, Jim, on your promotion.
Thank you.
Our next question is going to come from the line of Justin Speer with Zelman and Associates.
Good morning, guys. Thank you very much. A couple of questions for me just in regards to the domestic non residential revenue headwind that you mentioned in the Q4. Maybe could you give us some context for magnitude of the decline there and how that compares to the Q3 and maybe what you're thinking for the Q1 in that channel?
The commercial business remains depressed in all the pieces. We have large pieces in service industries like hospitality industry, the
Retail and office sectors as well.
And then we also have a big airline business. And so all the sectors under pressure and they haven't come out. You have the new construction part of the business, which people stop. So there's going to be a void in between the new construction projects that are ending. That's helped some of our businesses as they kept flowing through.
But the new ones that is a void in between and we're having a hard time gauging how they're going to pick up and where they're going to come through. And then just as one more part in our commercial business and the category, we're the last thing to go in. So everything else has to be done before ours comes in and we fill the pickup. So we're having a difficult time seeing where it's going to come out. The 2 businesses that we have, where we have the big parts of commercial are in our Flooring North America carpet business, our LVT business, our U.
S. Ceramic business and our European ceramic business is where the largest pieces are. The other businesses are much more heavier and residential and don't have the same impact that they're having in those 3.
And I guess following up on that, I know there's a lot of questions on the cost basket, but maybe could you provide us some color or context in terms of how much your cost basket is up currently versus the prior year? And then if you were to snap the line on some of the commodities that are moving down, ultimately graduating into your P and L, What are you guys planning for in the second half in terms of the year over year cost basket headwind that you're going to have to offset?
The costs are changing almost daily. We won't have the roll up till the end of the quarter what's actually happening. The 3% to 8% is the result of the cost changes. And those cost changes, we may have to go up further depending on how they go. We think we pass through what we see.
There are some supply interruptions. They haven't become dramatic yet, but there are some where the supply constraints are limiting some of it and causing the cost to go up more as we go through. And I forgot the last part of your question.
Yes. I was just trying to get some context for how much the cost basket when we look at the raw inputs and transportation costs, it's what you're I know it's hard it's a moving target right now, but if there's any line of sight to the year over year change in that cost basket either for the year or particularly in the back half of the year in 2021?
We don't have any idea that the prices are moving so much. You have the oil prices that have gone up recently. We thought that we had a good handle on where they're going to go. We don't know whether oil is going to end up at $60 or at $45 to $50 to tell you the truth. Is it and the same thing around the world in the different pieces.
So we're going to have to stay flexible and react to it because we don't know the answer.
Understood. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate it.
And our next question is going to come from the line of Michael Rehaut with JPMorgan.
Thanks. Good morning, everyone. And Jim, congrats again on the promotion. And Frank, I guess now twice, it's been great working with you. Thank you, Nick.
Looking at the margins in the back half of the year of 'twenty, certainly, you know, 4th quarter benefited more than expected from the stronger sales and the less time off. As we look into the Q1 and the second quarter, you're certainly hoping for price increases to catch up to some of your commodity inflation. You're still looking for strong, if not stronger year over year growth, particularly against easier comps. And hopefully, some of the manufacturing efficiencies are reduced and maybe commercial even comes back a little bit, we'll see, but certainly probably wouldn't get worse from here. So are we to think that you can hold on to these types of low double digit consolidated operating margins?
Or are there some adjustments we need to make based on, again, either time off? Certainly, your plans should still be running at pretty high levels. So just trying to understand, if you look at that 11.5% consolidated margin, it seems like there's still a lot of tailwinds in front of you if that margin can't be sustained, if not even built upon in the front half of twenty twenty one?
I'll start out with the margins for the full year, we're expecting to be above last year and keep improving. When you get into the second half of the year, last year was really unusual because of COVID, people took time off. So when we got to the normal holiday season like in Europe, we ran mostly straight through it. At the same time, our customers were still buying products and doing things. The question is going to be how strong is the business this year and what are people going to how are they going to change the way act?
And to tell you the truth, we have a big question mark on our piece. We don't know. We're assuming that the 3rd quarter will be more difficult with the comps because we're assuming we'll get back to closer vacation schedules and timing. The other part with the economy, the economy could expand enough where the business keeps going and it is stronger and actually does better than we think. We're having a hard time estimating what's going to happen between the economy growth and COVID stopping.
And if you know the Right. But
I yes, I'm sorry, Jeff. But I just want to make sure I don't mean to interrupt, but I'm really not as much focused on the back half. I agree with you. There's a lot of variables and there are some headwinds, but I'm more interested in the front half of 'twenty one, if you think about those margins versus the back half of 'twenty.
I'm not used to comparing the 2, is it? The 4th quarter trends are going to continue the trends in the 4th quarter continue. The demand is still coming in strong And commercial, we hope, is going to slowly improve. So we if you look at the Q4 to now, but you have to remember, Q1 is always different. We have more sampling of new products that go on.
We have introducing of things. We have shows going on. We have costs that don't happen all across the world. And so the cost structure of the Q1 is different as well as the rest of the business, this is why it typically the margins drop and the sales are lower. The difference this time is the sales are stronger than the historical time.
You also have the wintertime and the thing is how it impacts shopping and not in different markets and places. So you have to it will be stronger than normally historical, but you can't forget all the normal seasonal things that happen.
And then also in Q1, comparability, Q1 last year, we're over towards the in the end of February, we started to be impacted in Europe. And then at the end of March, we obviously were impacted in most of our businesses. So the comparability is difficult as well.
And cost aside, I would say that we will see we're still trying to get our inventories up to where they need to be. So we will see production running at higher levels.
All right.
Okay. One last quick one. CapEx, I think you said the D and A in 2021, dollars 5.90. Have any outlook for CapEx for the year and perhaps even in 2022 would be helpful?
2021, the capital spending is targeted to be in line with that D and A. So capital spending around that $590,000,000 mark. We're focused on adding some capacity, as we talked about, in laminate, in Brazil ceramic and looking at quartz as well, making investments for new products and there are many cost savings projects as well in that number. Also converting leases to owned assets as part of that.
Thank you.
And our next question is going to come from the line of Matthew Bouley with Barclays.
Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions and my congratulations to both Frank and Jim as well. I wanted to ask about the $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 of cost savings. You said you've achieved about $50,000,000 so far. So you also said some of the savings will flow through inventory in future periods.
I just wanted to tie all that together. Is that to suggest it's really the first half of 'twenty one where we see the incremental $50,000,000 for the most part? Or does some of that still kind of phase in as
already in our P and L. So that's the year to date benefit we saw in 2020 of the $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 So the balance of that, we believe, will flow through in through 2021. Remember, we had previously noted that we get $15,000,000 to $25,000,000 a quarter. So that benefit should be somewhat front loaded in 2021. Our cost of margins are reflecting the benefits of our actions.
And again, we'll complete that as we go through the year.
Got it. Okay.
Thanks for that, Jim. Second one, I guess, on the same topic, the you talked a little bit about kind of rethinking some of the cost reductions. I don't want to put words into your mouth, but have any of the cost reductions actually been shelved in light of this recovery in demand? Or actually, is there even any opportunity to be more aggressive in certain places with rationalization, just any assets that were more geared towards the commercial business, for example? Thank you.
If you remember, in last quarter, we actually reduced it last quarter and announced we were reducing it. Other than that, we have a few projects where we're watching, but we haven't concluded fully. We have to see how the market goes and determine what to do, but we're staying with the same numbers at this point.
Okay. Thanks, everyone.
And our next question is going to come from the line of Keith Hughes with Truist.
Thank you. A question is on the LVT in Europe. I know that growth there had lagged behind in the U. S. In terms of share gain, has that started to now accelerate?
And then also on your facility, I think you said you're running it 7 days a week. Are you kind of hitting an optimum level on that facility in terms of its productivity and costs?
So in Europe, the European market is significantly smaller for LVT than the United States. I think it's somewhere in the realm of about half the size of it. It's growing, but at a smaller rate and it's not being accepted at the same level. Our business is increasing substantially in Europe. Our operations are running reasonably well and we still think there are significant improvements to make in mix, product innovation and efficiencies as we go through the year to enhance the margins further.
We're expecting the productivity to allow us to continue to satisfy high increases. We have probably 5 or 6 engineers over in the United States today transferring all the knowledge that they've been doing to get us up to theirs. With that, they were also putting through price increases to cover both significant material changes as well as transportation costs rising. Is that and then just as a comment, the ocean freight from Asia is up dramatically. Is it affecting all the costs?
Is the U. S. LPG production, how far behind is it 6 months or 7.5? Are they caught up at all?
It's probably at least 6 months to get it. It's probably more than 6 months because what happens is some of it takes equipment modifications and equipment modifications, some of them take 4 to 5 months to make and we didn't want to put them in here until they were proven. On the other hand, there's a lot of immediate things that are going on now. Speeds are going up. Quality, the cost of the materials and pieces are getting better.
So we're going to see improvements significantly as we go through the year, it'll probably be 6 to 9 months before we get up to their level.
Okay. Thank you.
And our next question is going to come from the line of Stephen Kim with Evercore ISI.
Yes, thanks very much guys. Congratulations to all. A couple of questions related to your opening remarks, Jeff. You talked about, I believe you were seeing some substitution of LVT product with laminate on the back of your innovations that you've introduced in that category. I was wondering if you could elaborate on this a little bit more.
It would seem to be a pretty positive trend for you, given your dominance in laminate. And then secondarily, I'm wondering if a shift to laminate, let's say, that to add additional LVT production sometime? I know you just talked about 6 to 9 months, but what would it take for you to add additional lines to your existing or to the rigid LVT production you're ramping up now?
Let's see. The first question is about laminate. So laminate, historically, the laminate market was considered a low end market. Most of it was sold through the home centers, and we had a premium position with differentiated products and performance features. What's happened is that the premium part of the market that we're in, we have made it as an alternative that's seen as a good alternative to both wood and LVT.
And so the market is growing. At the same time, the market has expanded into other channels because of it. It's now being used in new construction. It's being accepted as an alternative to wood. It's being used in the retail remodeling business at a much higher level, and it's still doing well and growing in the home center channels.
So all the parts are coming together and the same thing is happening in the European business with our unique position in the marketplace. With that, we have a new line coming in, that will be operating at the end of this year. We'll add about another $125,000,000 of capacity to the U. S. Market.
We are importing product from our operations around the world to supplement it until that comes in as we go through. So that one's the business is doing well, and we're expanding it. Further, the LVT business continues to do well. We are expanding our capacities by operating the plants well. Then at the same time, we're looking at various plans how to grow further long term.
Okay. So I take it so you're still looking into adding potential capacity there at some point. Great. Second question relates to incremental margins. I know that a lot's changed in the business over the last few years.
We had at one point in the past looked at incremental margins. I think, Frank, you had talked about incremental margins. I'm curious if there is any update to what we be thinking about incremental margins across the various segments. And for instance, when we look at 1Q having a number of extra days and we think about the extra sales that will come with that, would it be reasonable to apply those same incremental margins to that improvement in sales and volume?
Well, answering your first question on incremental margins, I mean, we've got so many moving parts right now, Steve, with higher volumes production, shorter runs, increasing raw materials and lagging cost or pricing, it's going to be hard to come up with anything that's meaningful, I think at this point in time. And I don't know, Jim, if you want to address the second half of the question.
Steve, why don't you repeat the rest of your question again? He's asking about it.
Effectively, yes, effectively a volume only kind of incremental. So in the case of extra days or something, right, it's largely a volume issue for those extra days. So what kind of incremental do you get on just volume, forgetting the price mix and all that stuff?
You could probably use what we've done, what we've given you historically, Steve, on that.
Yes, that's kind of a range of 20 to 30, as I remember.
Yes, depending on the basis. But remember, as Frank pointed out, it's a little bit of an unusual situation because your actual cost is even extra days, your actual cost is running higher the shorter runs, the absenteeism that we're facing that Jeff pointed out. So just be aware of that as you think about it. Okay.
Yes, that makes sense. Okay. Thank you for that.
And our next question is going to come from the line of Sam Darkatsh with Raymond James.
Good morning, Jeff, Frank, Jim and Chris. And I'll reiterate congratulations to both of you, Frank and Jim, on the announcements. Well earned on both of your respects. Most of my questions have been asked and answered. Just a couple of housekeeping items.
You're, I think, guiding essentially for that similar $25,000,000 a quarter savings from restructuring in early 2021 as you saw in late 2020. But I'm wondering why that doesn't ramp because of the FIFO inventory accounting as you finally cycle through your high cost inventory. Can you help just help us understand or help me understand why that restructuring savings wouldn't ramp from back half?
Well, what you're going to see, Sam, is that once you reach kind of the anniversary date of the actions that have taken place to kind of lap those costs and the lower costs will now be part of your operations. So we announced it in Q2. Now some of the actions will take longer in terms of the plant consolidations and such through the year. But that's why I'm saying that the largest part of the remaining savings should come in the first half of the year as we anniversary the actions we took in 2020.
But you took $50,000,000 you got $50,000,000 in savings in the back half, and you're essentially guiding for $50,000,000 to $60,000,000 in the front half. So where would the ramp be that you're referring to?
It did ramp. So it ramped from Q2 to Q3 to Q4 and then Q1 and 2 should be about the same pace as Q4, which is a full
I think there's some confusion. He's talking about an additional 50 to get to the 110, not the same 50.
Yes. Correct.
Yes. Okay.
That will take place over the It's
the next 50, not the same 50.
Okay. And then my final question, if I could. In the Q1 guide, do you have significant benefit from the inventory rebuild baked into the guide from the fixed cost absorption? Or does that rebuild occur more ratably over the course of the year, I guess, once some of the COVID constraints alleviate?
It's in the Q1 numbers, but the build we're talking about is going to go throughout the year. It's not all going to happen in the Q1.
And that will conclude our Q and A portion of today's conference call. I'm now going to turn the conference over to Mr. Lorberbaum for closing comments.
Thank you for joining us today. The industry is in a good position. It appears the category should do well, and we think we're well positioned to take advantage of it. We appreciate you taking time and joining us. Have a good day.
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