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Earnings Call: Q1 2018

Apr 27, 2018

Operator

My name is Erin, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Mohawk Industries First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Should anyone need assistance at any time during this conference, please press star, then 0 and an operator will assist you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference is being recorded today, Friday, April 27, 2018. Thank you. I would now like to introduce Frank Boykin. Mr. Boykin, you may begin your conference.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Thank you, Erin. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Mohawk Industries quarterly investor conference call. Today, we'll update you on the company's results for the first quarter of 2018 and provide guidance for the second quarter. I would like to remind everyone that our press release and statements that we make during this call may include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to those set forth in our press release and our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This call may include discussion of non-GAAP numbers. You can refer to our Form 8-K and press release in the investor information section of our website for a reconciliation of any non-GAAP to GAAP amounts. I'll now turn the call over to Jeff Lorberbaum, Mohawk's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Jeff?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Thank you, Frank. In the first quarter, we generated sales of $2.4 billion, up 9% over the prior year, with our businesses outside the U.S. growing faster and their stronger currencies benefiting translation. For the period, our adjusted operating income was $292 million or 12.1% of sales. Our adjusted EPS was $3.01, an increase of 11%. Mohawk is benefiting from its diverse geographic footprint and product portfolio. Our performance in the first quarter accentuated this strength as we realized significant growth in LVT in our largest markets, and sales and profits grew strongly in our ceramic businesses outside the U.S. We are leveraging our global organization's strength to initiate manufacturing in new markets and extend our development of innovative new products. Our global decentralized structure enables us to simultaneously manage numerous internal investments while also executing new acquisitions.

For the quarter, our operating income grew at a greater rate when adjusted for the loss of income from expired patents and higher startup costs of new facilities and sales initiatives. In the first quarter, material and freight inflation increased more than we anticipated and it impacted our costs. We are initiating selective pricing actions by product and region that, combined with improving mix and cost reductions, will offset inflation. Throughout the rest of the year, we anticipate higher growth rates in all segments as we introduce new products, add capacity, implement price increases, and complete acquisitions. Many of our operations are currently initiating new production, including Mexican, Italian, and Russian ceramic, U.S. and European premium laminate, U.S. and European LVT, Italian porcelain slabs, and European carpet tile.

In addition, by the end of this year, we anticipate commencing production of quartz countertops in the U.S. and sheet vinyl in Russia, as well as expanding polyester carpet in the U.S., ceramic in Poland, and laminate and ceramic wall tile in Russia. We anticipate finalizing the acquisition of Godfrey Hirst as early as the end of May, adding the largest flooring producer in Australia and New Zealand to our global portfolio. To prepare for the integration, we are assessing sales, product, and raw material strategies of Mohawk and Godfrey Hirst in the markets to optimize revenue and profits. Long-term, our investments in new products and markets around the world will significantly enhance our profitability. Some of the projects will require significant one-time costs to start up the assets and build sales before higher utilization rates will deliver the margins and income we anticipate.

This contrasts with acquisitions such as Godfrey Hirst, where we are investing about $450 million and will see an immediate increase in our annual EPS of $0.35-$0.40 per share. In the U.S., strong job creation and continuing wage growth is supporting our ongoing economic expansion. A strong March retail report suggests that recent tax reductions are translating to increased consumer spending. The National Association of Home Builders reported that March housing starts rose 11% year-over-year, and the organization is predicting single-family home growth escalating with higher construction. Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies predicts stronger remodeling gains spurred by increased home values, low rates for home improvement loans, and high consumer confidence. The American Institute of Architects Index remains positive, projecting higher non-residential spending as reduced corporate taxes encourage new construction and renovation projects.

Outside the U.S., continued economic growth is forecasted for the European Union as interest rates remain low, business investment increases, and employment improves. In Mexico, the economy was sluggish during the first quarter and is predicted to strengthen going forward. The Russian economy remains challenging amid political uncertainty. Now, Chris Wellborn, our Chief Operating Officer, will review our first quarter performance by segment. Chris?

W. Christopher Wellborn
COO, Mohawk Industries

Thank you, Jeff. In the quarter, our Global Ceramic sales increased 12% as reported, with greater sales growth outside the U.S. First quarter sales sequentially improved, and we anticipate increased growth throughout the balance of the year, supported by greater capacity and new product introductions. We are implementing sales actions to increase our customer base and market share in both the residential and commercial sectors. Our two acquisitions in Italy and Poland are progressing as planned as we integrate their operations and expand their product offering. Our North American ceramic business improved from the prior period as we introduced new products to increase promotional activities, and the home center channel improved. Our business is stronger in the Southern and Western U.S., where new home construction is expanding faster. Our home center customers are focusing more on ceramic and increasing product commitments to enhance their sales.

Increased sales in the builder and home center channels are impacting our overall product mix. As our distributors consolidated operations, they have made inventory adjustments that have temporarily reduced our sales. We are aggressively pursuing new commercial projects with retail, hospitality, and healthcare sectors the strongest. In the U.S., LVT is being utilized more broadly and is impacting the industry growth rate of ceramic and other products. We are taking many actions to increase our ceramic share, including launching innovative slip-resistant tile, introducing higher style designs in all price points, and marketing ceramic's durability and ease of care to consumers. During the second quarter, we are leveraging our recently implemented systems to cut our overhead costs by $5 million on an annual basis. Our new service center and countertop distribution are ramping up and will enhance our results as sales increase.

Our countertop growth is increasing with quartz products taking share from natural stone. The building of our new quartz plant is nearing completion, and equipment installation should begin this quarter. We are finalizing material formulations and designs to begin production at the end of this year. We're also introducing porcelain slabs made by our Italian operations for countertops, as well as offering large sizes for flooring walls. Specification for these products are increasing as designers are inspired by the beauty of natural stone in large sizes with the value and easy care of porcelain. Our sales in Mexico grew during the period, significantly outpacing the ceramic market. The increased new capabilities of our Salamanca plant are allowing us to expand our customer base across Mexico and grow exports to Central and South America. We're introducing new hiring collections on top of increasing our participation in medium and value-oriented price points.

Over time, our product mix will improve and expand our margins in Mexico. The European ceramic business continues to integrate our recent acquisitions in Italy and Poland. Our product mix is improving as we capture a larger share of the premium market, and our new product launches will increase our average price. To grow our sales in the retail channel, we are adding about 100 Marazzi-branded shops within our leading customers this year. We're developing regional manufacturing strategies to optimize production where transportation significantly impacts our cost. Since completing the upgrade of our color body manufacturing, sales of our higher-end commercial products are increasing, and we are expanding our specified sales force to increase our participation in the new construction channel. Our new porcelain slab production started in the first quarter, providing industry-leading visuals and performance features in sizes up to five and a half by 11 feet.

Building construction has commenced in Poland to install the production line that is being transferred from our Italian operations. It will be operational in the third quarter so that we can expand our offering and better satisfy the Central European market. In Bulgaria, we have upgraded equipment to produce 48-inch tiles, giving us a competitive advantage in the market. The productivity of our European ceramic operations is improving, and we have dramatically enhanced the safety performance of our plants. We are upgrading our warehouse management and transportation system to increase our efficiencies and lower our costs. With the integration of our new businesses and consolidation of our systems, we will reduce our overhead by $4 million by the end of the third quarter. We will complete the integration of all of our European ceramic systems by the end of 2019.

In Russia, our investments in product distribution and branded retail stores, along with enhancements of our organization and systems, have created a significant competitive advantage. We continue to grow our leading market position in a challenging economic environment. At the recent Russia National Trade Show, we further expanded our high-styled offerings, reinforcing our position as the design leader with the broadest array of sophisticated collections. We are starting up new porcelain capacity this quarter, and by the end of the year, we will convert part of our commodity flooring production to higher-value wall tile to enhance our mix. In the first quarter, our Flooring North America sales were $950 million, increasing 1% with adjusted margin of 10%, including the startup of our new LVT line. During the period, we implemented the carpet price increase we announced last year.

In the first period, our raw materials and freight costs escalated more than we had anticipated. We announced another carpet price increase of 6%-7% to cover inflation, along with a freight increase, and the industry has supported. Bitterly cold weather disrupted the energy supply to some of our plants, resulting in lower output and higher cost. Our residential carpet sales increased during the quarter, led by the retail replacement channel. Our SmartStrand Silk Reserve collection extends the success of the premium super soft carpet we pioneered, and our luxury Karastan line is accelerating from trend-setting designs and luxurious cashmere nylon introductions. We are gaining sales momentum with our proprietary Airo unified soft flooring due to its luxurious feel, hypoallergenic properties, and ease of installation. Our patented Continuum polyester carpets are growing as a value alternative, and we are expanding our capacity late this year to satisfy higher demand.

In Main Street Commercial, we have introduced a new carpet tile technology called EcoMatrix, which is more versatile for installation on a variety of subfloors. These nylon and polyester products are styled to coordinate with our LVT collections. Our commercial carpet sales during the period were impacted by delayed construction dates and the substitution of LVT on projects. Projects bookings improved sequentially through the period and have continued to strengthen in April. We have realigned our commercial sales structure so that we can provide greater expertise with complete flooring solutions for each end-use market. We are driving commercial design trends through complementary soft and hard surface collections that provide style and performance advantages. The hospitality sector was our strongest channel, and our Definity collections are growing as an alternative to premium woven wool products. LVT sales continue to expand in both residential and commercial.

To support our increasing manufacturing capabilities, we are expanding our collections of both flexible and rigid LVT. We are upgrading our original LVT manufacturing line to increase its output and product features. The new rigid LVT production line will begin commissioning during the second quarter following the launch of an identical line in Europe. We have begun training personnel, refining operational processes, and developing new products for the market. Our new laminate production is working well and has unique capabilities to make products indistinguishable from natural wood with superior visuals and performance. Our revolutionary RevWood Plus, a new waterproof wood product, is rapidly gaining acceptance with longer planks and contemporary finishes. Our investments in new technologies and automation are enhancing our service levels and cost structures. By the end of the second quarter, we will cut administrative and indirect costs by a $20 million run rate.

We continue to initiate hundreds of productivity projects to improve our efficiencies, quality, and service. Due to limited common carrier capacity, we are purchasing additional trucks to expand our transportation fleet to provide higher levels of service. During the quarter, our Flooring Rest of the World segment performed extremely well, with sales growing 18% and adjusted operating income up 19%. The European market continues to do well, and the operating income of our ongoing business is up substantially on a local basis. LVT is the fastest-growing product in the segment, even though sales were constrained by our capacity during the period. We are starting new LVT and laminate production in Belgium, and we are launching new carpet tile and rigid LVT products. The price increases we implemented last fall are covering raw material increases from 2017, and we are selectively increasing prices to offset further inflation.

Our mix, volume, and pricing are increasing our margins in most categories. LVT in Europe is growing in acceptance, and we are the market leader. Our new production line is operating five days a week as we refine our manufacturing processes. The line is presently producing existing products to satisfy growing demand. Through testing, we have validated the capability of our new technology to manufacture rigid LVT with enhanced performance and innovative features. We anticipate introducing new products during the second quarter and ramping up production to seven days a week by the end of the third quarter. All the equipment and process enhancements are being replicated in the U.S. to shorten the startup process. Our sheet vinyl assets in Europe are running at capacity, and we are seeding the Russian market to build demand for our new plant.

The renovation of the building in Russia is progressing, and equipment installation should be completed in the fourth quarter to initiate production. Our sales organization is collaborating with major Russian customers to develop new products and programs to utilize our new production. At our new carpet tile facility, we are running trials to establish operating procedures and refine new products. We are in the process of assembling an experienced commercial sales force to expand our sales of LVT, sheet vinyl, and carpet tile across Europe. Our laminate business continues to perform well with our new product innovations improving our results. We lead the premium market in realistic design and water-resistant products. Our new laminate press capacity is now operating, and we are introducing additional premium products to extend our market leadership.

In our Russian laminate plant, we are installing a new line that will double our capacity in the third quarter. We're developing new sales and warehousing strategies in Russia to optimize the distribution of our laminate and sheet vinyl production across the country. Our wood panel sales are performing well as a result of investments that expanded capacity and improved our cost. Our insulation business is recovering as raw material supply increases and costs moderate. We anticipate insulation sales improving as declining material costs allow us to be more competitive with other product alternatives as we progress through the year.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The Godfrey Hirst acquisition is progressing as we expected, along with our other smaller acquisitions in the segment. Plans are being executed to integrate and optimize the performance of all these acquisitions. I'll now turn the call over to Frank, who will cover our financial performance for the first quarter.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Thank you, Chris. Net sales for the quarter were $2.412 billion, growing 9% over last year, of which 4% was from currency and 2% from acquisitions. Our gross margin, as reported, was 29.2%, or 29.9% excluding charges with price, mix, productivity, currency, and volume, all offsetting inflation and lower IP. SG&A, as reported, was $436 million or 18.1% of sales. With 17.8% of sales excluding charges, which improved 40 basis points over last year, as we leveraged our cost against higher sales and continued to control costs. Unusual charges for the quarter were $23 million and primarily related to plant consolidation and integration of acquisitions across all three segments. Our operating income, excluding charges, was $292 million, up 5% over last year with a margin of 12.1%. Price mix of $38 million and productivity of $31 million offset inflation of $52 million.

Our operating income was up significantly when adjusted for incremental startup cost of $9 million, patents that expired in 2017, and higher depreciation from our increased investments. The income tax rate improved to 20% from 25.6% as the 2017 tax reform drove the overall rates down. We estimate our second quarter rate to be between 20% and 21%. Earnings per share excluding charges was $3.01, an increase of 11% over last year. Turning to the segments. The Global Ceramic segment had sales of $877 million, growing 12%, of which 6% was from acquisitions and 4% from currency. Our operating income excluding charges at $117 million with a margin of 13.3%. Productivity of $14 million and volume of $11 million offset $13 million of inflation and $7 million of price mix decline.

In the Flooring North America segment, sales were $950 million compared to $939 million in 2017, with good growth in residential carpet and LVT. Operating income, excluding charges, was $91 million, compared to $94 million of operating income last year. Price mix of $14 million and productivity of $13 million offset inflation of $25 million. In the Flooring Rest of the World segment, sales were $585 million, with solid growth of 18% over last year. 14% of the growth was attributable to currency gains. We had strong growth that continued in LVT as our leadership position in that category advantages us over our competitors. Operating income, excluding charges, was $93 million and increased 19% over last year. Price mix of $31 million, currency of $6 million and productivity of $4 million offset inflation of $14 million, along with lower IP income.

In the corporate and elimination segment, the operating loss was $9 million, we expect the segment loss to range between $35 million-$45 million for the full year. Jumping to the balance sheet, receivables ended the quarter at $1,690 million, with days sales outstanding of 56 days. Inventories were $2,045 million, with inventory days at 116 days, which improved over the fourth quarter. Inventory turns continue to be impacted by increasing inflation and our backwards integration. Fixed assets ended the quarter at $4,461 million. Our first quarter capital expenditures was $251 million, with D&A of $123 million. We're estimating CapEx for 2018 of approximately $750 million, with depreciation and amortization of about $525 million, which exceeds last year by $75 million. Long-term debt ended the quarter at $2.9 billion, with leverage at 1.5 times debt to EBITDA. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jeff. Jeff?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Thank you, Frank. Around the globe, we are starting up a number of large investments that will significantly enhance our long-term results by expanding existing sales, adding product categories, and entering new markets. As anticipated this year, we will have non-recurring reduction in operating income of $70 million-$75 million, comprised of $30 million-$35 million from higher startup costs, $40 million from patents that expired in 2017. In 2018, incremental depreciation of $75 million will curtail our operating margins until our sales reach a level to fully absorb these investments. Changes in the U.S. tax law will reduce our adjusted tax rate from 26% last year to an estimated 21% this year. Taking all of this into account, our EPS guidance for the second quarter is $3.89-$3.98, excluding any one-time charges.

During the balance of 2018, our sales growth should improve as we increase the use of our new production, introduce additional products, and complete the acquisition of Godfrey Hirst. We estimate the Godfrey Hirst acquisition will close by the end of May and will increase revenue by $180 million and EPS by $0.25 per share this year. In the third quarter, higher prices, mix, and productivity should increase our adjusted operating income above last year, even with a lower margin. In the fourth quarter, our adjusted operating income and margin should exceed 2017 as the impact from startups and patent decline. We are confident that our new investments will create significant opportunities with potential to have equal or greater profitability than our present businesses.

We are adding $500 million of LVT with huge growth potential, $400 million of new product categories or geographies, including countertops, sheet vinyl, and carpet tile, and $500 million of new capacity in constrained areas, including ceramic outside the U.S., laminate with new capabilities, and polyester carpet. With the strength of our organization, we can execute additional acquisitions if appropriate risk and return can be achieved. The market is focused on the next two quarters, where we are absorbing material increases, startup, and IP expiration, overlooking the significant impact of our actions will have on our sales and profitability in 2019 and beyond. Our management, cash generation, and balance sheet will enable us to continue our aggressive growth strategies. We'll now be glad to take your questions.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Jeff.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Management requests that you limit your questions to one primary and one follow-up. If you have additional questions, you may reenter the queue by again pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Michael Wood from Nomura Instinet.

Michael Wood
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Nomura Instinet

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. First question on ceramics, the price mix decline that you called out. How much of that was from the distribution retail mix shift? Can you just give us some color as to whether or not that's temporary, or does it bleed over into second quarter and beyond?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Our product mix declined in the U.S. due to higher sales in home centers and builders, as well as increasing promotions. We had incremental startup cost of $3 million from our new quartz plant. We're introducing higher style products and reducing our annual fixed cost by $9 million. Sales and margins outside the U.S. are strong.

Michael Wood
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Nomura Instinet

Can you just elaborate on whether or not that negative mix shift that you called out, is that a one-quarter temporary issue, or does it continue?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

It continues.

Michael Wood
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Nomura Instinet

Okay, got it. At a high level, looking at your guidance for second quarter, the earnings growth is lower than what you actually achieved in first quarter. I would've thought we would've seen some headwinds start to fade, like the Unilin patent startup cost, and you would have time for price recovery. Could you just give some color in terms of what's offsetting some of those headwinds that may be starting to fade in 2Q that's limiting that earnings growth?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Your assumptions that they're fading are wrong. The IP continues as a big decline. The startup costs grow in the second quarter. What else?

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Price mix.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The material inflation, we're getting impacted, and we haven't got any price increase at all. We won't start getting price increase till the end of the second quarter and then into the third quarter.

Michael Wood
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Nomura Instinet

Okay, that's very helpful color. Thank you.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

The other thing I would point out, too, there, remember, we've got incremental depreciation of $75 million this year spread across all four quarters.

Operator

Our second question comes from the line of Michael Rehaut from JPMorgan.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Hello?

Operator

You may go ahead with your question.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Maybe we should go to the next.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Go to the next one.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Let's go to the next one.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Bouley from Barclays.

Matthew Bouley
Analyst, Barclays

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to follow up on, Jeff, what you quantified at the end of your prepared remarks. You've separated out some of the capacity that's currently initiating production and ramping, and then the several areas that are set to commence, it sounded like you quantified $1.3 billion across some of the new capacity. Are you able to just separate out where you are on the utilization of the plants you have that are currently ramping, as well as the outlook for the timing of that new capacity that you've mentioned will be opening during this year? Thank you.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The problem is there's about 20 different activities going on. The activities range from starting up new plants that we've never operated before and have no sales, which will take long periods of time to get them ramped up. Could be sheet vinyl in Russia or carpet tile in Europe, those are startup projects from ground up with no sales and marketing to begin with. We have other projects that we have significant sales already that will be added to. Those will come up different. You have new plants, such as quartz countertops. We haven't manufactured before, but we've assembled experts from around the world. We have LVT product lines that haven't been run before. They're starting up. Trying to get down to a month-by-month and quarter-by-quarter doesn't really make any sense.

Matthew Bouley
Analyst, Barclays

Understood. That's helpful. I guess on that, the new LVT line specifically, obviously, you've highlighted that LVT is taking share across categories here, including ceramic in the U.S. Are you able to outline how your margin profile differs between the U.S. ceramic business or the new lines on the U.S. LVT business? Just trying to think about how that margin profile will shift as you do ramp on these new facilities here. Thank you.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

In the remarks, we were trying to say that our expectations for the total of all these should be equal or greater than our business average in the margins and profitability. They're going to be different from one to the other, as well as where they are within the startup strategy over time.

Matthew Bouley
Analyst, Barclays

Understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Susan Maklari from Credit Suisse.

Susan Maklari
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you. Good morning.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Morning.

Susan Maklari
Analyst, Credit Suisse

The first question is around, you made a comment in your opening remarks on some efforts to increase your customer base in Global Ceramic. Can you just give us a little bit more color there on what you're doing and any specific geographies within that?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Well, we're doing things in all geographies. We're introducing new slip-resistant tiles and large-size commercial projects. We're expanding our builder and commercial distribution. We're increasing our sales in home centers in Mexico and South America. We're ramping up new tile and stone centers, and we will soon begin manufacturing quartz countertops with the opportunity to become a leader in the category.

Susan Maklari
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay, thank you. Second question is just on the productivity. It sounds like you're off to a pretty decent start there. Any updates on that as we're now past the first quarter, how we should be thinking about it for the year?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

I think we said the last time that the productivity would approximate 140, with some of the new initiatives, we're thinking it's going to be a little higher. Some of the benefits that you don't all get in this year.

Susan Maklari
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay, still around $140 for this year, but potentially higher as we exit the year. Is that how we should think about it?

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

I think it'll be for the full year, a little bit higher than the $140, we'll have some projects, like Jeff was saying, that start this year, you'll get part of the benefit this year and part of the benefit that next year.

Susan Maklari
Analyst, Credit Suisse

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Keith Hughes from SunTrust.

Keith Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Thank you. The $52 million you gave on inflation impact to the quarter, I just want to confirm that includes transportation costs. Do you expect a similar number for the next quarter or two based on where raw materials are?

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

The inflation does include transportation, inflation's a moving target, it's hard to say what the number's going to be as we look down the road.

Keith Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Any kind of guess we've got at that is built into our estimates right now.

Keith Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. On the negative price mix in Global Ceramic that you listed out, can you break down how much of that was price, how much of that was mix?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

No.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Hello?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

We don't have that because the introductions of our different products and different categories, it's difficult to separate it into specific things, and the estimates become so large it doesn't make sense to try to separate it.

Keith Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay. Is that something that I know you talked pretty positively in the release about for the new introductions that are going to be coming in, the new capacity coming in. That seems like that's something that would turn around given the history of ceramics. Is that your view for the year?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Yeah. What we have is LVT's impacting our business in North America. We also had higher freight and startup costs. Our ceramic business grew in all regions. In North America, we increased our share in the new home construction and the home centers. We're launching new products and reducing our costs, which will improve our margins going forward.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

We were trying to get across in the statements that when we put out introductions, we know the margins of those relative to our average. The introductions are at higher points, which we assume, as we push those in the marketplace, will help offset part of it.

Keith Hughes
Analyst, SunTrust

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Stephen East from Wells Fargo.

Stephen East
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thank you, and good morning, guys. Just to follow up on the raw materials, Frank, could you maybe rank order which raw materials, where you're seeing the biggest impact, including transportation, if that's a big one? And then as you look at, are you seeing some ongoing escalation of any of those, or do you think the pricing that you're putting through now is going to cover what you see as you move through the year?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Let's see if I can sort of get you directionally. The chemical costs are the biggest parts in the materials, and the ones that use chemicals to go into them would have the highest one, which are carpet and vinyl.

Stephen East
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

It doesn't mean that the other ones aren't there, but those have much higher percentages of chemicals than, let's say, laminate, which just the top is affected.

Stephen East
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Yeah.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The freight rates in the United States. There are all kinds of things going on with the transportation because capacity was tight to begin with. The regulations that they put through reduced the capacity even further with the regulatory changes.

Stephen East
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Yep.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

With that, we're also investing more in our own trucking fleet to take a higher percentage of it, with all this going on.

Stephen East
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. All right. That's helpful to me. If you look at your ceramic in North America, you gave a lot of examples of what was driving your business. Your core sales though were up 2% and 1%. Where are you seeing the offsets in your business that you probably need to redouble your efforts on those two categories?

W. Christopher Wellborn
COO, Mohawk Industries

Well, again, LVT is taking a portion of the market, and what we've done is increased our share of the new home construction and home center business.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The biggest impact right now is in the remodeling business in the retail stores, but it's growing in all the parts. The good news is that we have huge capacities coming on. We're introducing new products to participate in the LVT, and we'll maintain or grow our shares in the other categories.

Stephen East
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Retail is where you think you're seeing the biggest, I wouldn't call it disruption.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

It also goes into all kinds of commercial installations. LVT in the U.S. is not like any other part of the world. It's probably approaching almost 15% of the industry, and we haven't seen anything do this since carpet in the '60s.

Stephen East
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Okay. All right. Thank you. I appreciate it.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Baugh from Stifel.

John Baugh
Analyst, Stifel

Thank you. Good morning. I wondered about the comment that ceramic improved in the first quarter sequentially. Was that a March quarter to December quarter comment, or was that January through March as well?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The comment was from fourth quarter last year compared to first quarter, the rate of growth improved.

John Baugh
Analyst, Stifel

This is a question that may be is U.S.-focused in not just ceramic, but overall. We heard about a tough start to the year in January and February, but we've heard that business in general has picked up in March and April in the U.S. again. Have you seen that yourselves? Any color there? Chris, you walked through a whole bunch of things you're doing in ceramic domestically, and of course, there was some noise last year with the home centers. I'm just curious if you can give any color, I don't know, on the progression you see in U.S. ceramic sales as we go through 2018 and/or into 2019. Thank you.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

I would say also that the first part of the year when it started, it started off a little slower than we had expected. We're presently still with the same estimate of 3%-4% growth for the industry for this year is our best estimate at this time.

W. Christopher Wellborn
COO, Mohawk Industries

Yeah, I'd also add, besides just the impact from LVT, that we're doing a lot of new things in the U.S. with the slip-resistant products, with the quartz coming on. We have a lot of areas where we can grow our business.

John Baugh
Analyst, Stifel

Great. Thank you, and good luck.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Philip Ng from Jefferies.

Philip Ng
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, guys. As we look out to 2019, appreciating that your IP earnings and the headwind from the startup costs should start reversing, can you talk about how you're positioned on a productivity standpoint? Do you get back on track to delivering the type of operating leverage we've seen in your business in the past?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

What you should see is, as you said, the IP changes should be behind us. The startup costs, we haven't put the plan together for next year, I can't tell you what it's going to be, but the startup costs should be down. We're $35 million more this year than we were last year, and last year was probably the highest on record. We would expect it to come down, assuming we don't come up with more new projects, but I don't know that yet. The same time this year, not in the startup costs, is that once the plant gets turned on and turned over to the operational group, you get 100% of the depreciation, even though you're running at limited amounts.

As that ramps up, the cost will fall allow us to expand the margins going forward, all of those things will start happening next year, we should get a significant jump in all the pieces.

Philip Ng
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. That's helpful. Jeff, I think last call you mentioned you're seeing good opportunities to redeploy your capital internally in M&A. Given this big pullback in your stock here, can you give us a sense how you're thinking about that? We would certainly agree with the market being a little more too focused about some of the near-term headwinds you were seeing. Thanks.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

We believe that our business is doing really well. Our cash flow is significant, we believe that you can see this year we've announced acquisitions, we've announced significant spending on capital, by the time we get to the end of the year, we hope to find more new projects for the future. There's always companies who want to sell. The question is not if there's companies wanting to sell, the question is, can we find the right valuations and do we have the right things we can do to help it so we get the returns on it? As we go forward, we still have a capability of our management to execute multiple acquisitions at the same time, we're always looking, we don't see any limitations in our ability to continue growing our business in all the categories.

At the same time, you see us this year, we're doing more greenfield operations, I would consider more of them in the future in addition. If all those things come together and we can't find the right investments, at some point, we would be quite comfortable buying our own stock back.

Philip Ng
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Scott Rednor from Zelman & Associates.

Scott Rednor
Analyst, Zelman & Associates

Hi, good morning. Jeff, in the Flooring Rest of the World business, it's very hard for us to see kind of what the underlying growth rates are, just given the patent headwind and various other things. It sounds like in Europe, the LVT market's growing double digits. Do you guys think you're getting your fair share of that in the international scheme?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

LVT is really primarily a U.S. business. In Europe, it's probably three, four years behind. Could be more. Out of that, we have the largest participation in it, and we intend to grow the most in it. We believe that our strategy, unlike others, of having low cost, high volume capacity, gives us competitive advantages in both marketplaces. We're the best positioned in Europe of anybody.

Scott Rednor
Analyst, Zelman & Associates

I guess more broadly, recognizing that you went through this shift from soft surface to hard surface, prior to the last housing cycle and margins today are significantly higher, I think you alluded to this as the largest shift towards LVT from other products. How do you leave investors confident that you can leverage your current assets to continue to drive margins higher over the next three to five years?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

At the moment, it's a U.S. question because you don't have the same growth in LVT. To start with, we have over $1 billion we'll get through in not long of LVT capacity, and if the market will absorb it, we'll keep growing the capacity further. We're well positioned in where it's going. In the existing assets and business, I think that we have the premium positions in the categories. We have low cost market production assets, whatever the competition is going to be, we're going to get our fair share or more.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Laura Champine from Loop Capital Markets.

Laura Champine
Analyst, Loop Capital Markets

Good morning. You mentioned that LVT is growing very rapidly to 15% of the industry. My question is whether or not you see that once your capacity is fully ramped out, what you've got planned anyway, do you think that your Flooring North America segment will also be 15% or more devoted to LVT, or will you still under index there?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Listen, I'd like to have more. There's no constraints on our ability to expand capacity. It takes, now with where we are, it probably takes a little over a year to execute it. We'll go for four or five months and see what happens. If we see we're going to be able to grow it further, there's nothing that's stopping us from keep going on capacity in the U.S.

Laura Champine
Analyst, Loop Capital Markets

More directly, Jeff, once you're fully ramped on all the LVT capacity you've got planned, approximately what % of your total North American flooring capacity will that represent?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

I don't know that off the top of my head. I don't even know what my present North American capacity is off the top of my head with all these businesses. I would guess it's still going to be less than our market share of everything else, of the average. We have much higher market shares in the other pieces. What's happened is we made a conscious decision to hold up going after the marketplace as aggressively. We are sourcing some, but almost everybody else is sourcing almost everything they're buying from China. We made a decision to put in capacity, and we didn't want to spend all the marketing costs and then throw it out six, nine months later. It's held us up a little bit from being as far along as we would like.

I believe that we're going to be the best positioned in the marketplace when we get through, and we'll keep growing it as the market will accept it.

Laura Champine
Analyst, Loop Capital Markets

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Lovallo from Bank of America.

John Lovallo
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. The first one is, you mentioned that a lot of the raw material inflation is in carpet and vinyl. Just curious, are there opportunities in your recycling business to step up that to be a bigger positive impact?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

We're running all of our recycling pieces at capacity, it's hard to push much more through it. We have announced to put an investment in this year that'll be running the end of the year to increase our recycling and extrusion capacity relative to that. It'll be running in, I don't know if it's the third or fourth quarter. We're expanding it, but we're utilizing all that we have presently.

John Lovallo
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, that's helpful. I guess the follow-up would be, can you just remind us what freight is as a % of your COGS in North America?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Anybody know the answer?

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Mid. Low to mid-single digits as a %.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The problem is it's really different based on product and pieces you go through. I don't really know what the number is off the top of my head.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Yeah. I think that % is not a COGS, but of sales that I just gave you there.

John Lovallo
Analyst, Bank of America

Low single digits?

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Yeah. Low to mid. Yeah. Low to mid.

John Lovallo
Analyst, Bank of America

Low to mid. Okay. Thanks, guys.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

It's different by product. Ceramic's higher than others. Carpet's it, and you go into different distribution channels, they pick it up, and we don't have anything to do with it. Everyone's different.

John Lovallo
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Timothy Wojs from Baird.

Timothy Wojs
Analyst, Baird

Hey, guys. Good morning. Maybe just following up on that last question, Frank. I guess specifically in ceramic, when you think about freight, is there inability to put through any sort of freight surcharges, or have you done that? Curious just how you can maybe offset some of that inflation on the freight side.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

We already do that. We have surcharges on it that we move up and down with the freight costs, trying to recover it as we go through. It depends on the market conditions and where you are. Sometimes we recover it all, and sometimes we recover less.

Timothy Wojs
Analyst, Baird

Do you feel like you're recovering more of it today?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

It depends by product category and region. I have to give you different answers. It depends on the competitive situation in each product and each market of where it's going. We try to recover all of it back. In some cases, we can get more, in some cases, we get less, and we hope it all works out.

Timothy Wojs
Analyst, Baird

Okay, fair enough. Then just maybe in carpet, have you guys seen any change in competitive dynamics at all just within the carpet business? I know you guys have put through a fair amount of pricing to offset raw materials. Just any sort of resistance from customers or anything like that, any color there would be helpful.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

I haven't met a customer yet that likes to pay more for anything. What happened to it all that we're trying to align the raw materials with our costs better and the increases. We started in the fourth quarter, we saw it coming, we underestimated dramatically what was going to happen. We announced an increase. The rest of the industry followed. We got into the first quarter, we saw it getting worse. We announced another increase, the industry followed. We're all acting rationally.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of David MacGregor from Longbow Research.

David MacGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Yes, good morning, everyone. Just to pick up on the discussion on LVT. I guess as you ramp the LVT plants, how much more profitable is the manufactured product versus the sourced product?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

We're able to compete with sourced products. We're using source to either give us products that are slightly different from where we are once we get it up, or to act as buffers as the business changes and we need more capacity as we go through. We made a conscious choice, as I said before, we're lagging the industry a little bit. We started from a low base, and we're lagging because we postponed the aggressive introductions. Starting about the end of last year, we're moving into every market and every product category as fast as we can go to use up all this capacity that we're putting in.

David MacGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Right. As you bring up that manufacturing capacity and you substitute that out for the sourced product, the unit margin should be up, shouldn't it? I mean, is that a 20%, 30% lift? I'm just trying to get a sense of what that might be.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

I don't know. We're not going to get in that granular of detail.

David MacGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Yeah.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

I can just tell you that we can be competitive with whatever we need to be.

David MacGregor
Analyst, Longbow Research

Okay. As the second line it becomes more fully ramped, how will you mix between residential and commercial?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

I'm not sure we're starting out with a preconceived idea. Typically, commercial is lower run sizes and lower units, but higher margins, and the residential is higher volume at lower margins. You have the product categories. Rigid LVT, which is what the new plant's going to do, is growing at the top end, and it's a limited portion of the commercial business. We'll just have to manage the assets to whatever the customers want. Our new facilities will make any of the product types the customers desire, and we'll just balance it between them. As they go forward, and we'll optimize it. If we get to a point where we're constrained, we hope to either put more in or we'll manage the mix based on what makes the most sense for our business and operations. Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Eric Bosshard from Cleveland Research.

Eric Bosshard
Analyst, Cleveland Research

Two questions for you. First of all, on the U.S. ceramic business, last quarter you talked about, I think North America was down but improved through the quarter. Could you just give us a perspective on the U.S. ceramic growth rate in the quarter and how it performed in the quarter?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

We improved our growth rate in the quarter as we took more business in new home construction and home centers. It improved as we went through the quarter.

Eric Bosshard
Analyst, Cleveland Research

Is it still down or is the business now growing in total on a year-over-year basis?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The business is up. It's not up as much as I'd like it to be, though.

Eric Bosshard
Analyst, Cleveland Research

Okay.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Our ceramic business grew in all regions.

Eric Bosshard
Analyst, Cleveland Research

Okay, great. Thank you, Chris. Secondly, Jeff, in terms of the LVT business, I'm curious your thoughts on how the category is evolving in two areas. One, in terms of the changing designs of the product, and then secondly, the import capacity that's been added. I'm curious how you view those two dynamics influencing the LVT effort of yours in the U.S.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

You have to start from that up to now, the category is growing so rapidly that, I mean, it's absorbing anything and everything, as yet. There's more capacity coming on in China to support it, which is where most of it's coming. As would you expect as things mature, the prices are getting a little lower in some cases, depending upon the product category. The designing, everybody keeps coming up with different designs to do differently, and anything that's in this stage, you have a lot of innovation going on, both in materials, product types, designing, across the board, and it's all part of a maturing process. The question is, as the base gets bigger, what rate is it going to grow and when is it going to peak out? I have no idea.

Eric Bosshard
Analyst, Cleveland Research

Related to that, as you think about your opportunity, the capacity you're adding, will there be a third and a fourth U.S. facility, and when would that happen? I know you commented on this earlier, but how do you think about the timing and opportunity in regards to that?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Depending upon what we see over the next three to six months, we could make a decision to put more in.

Eric Bosshard
Analyst, Cleveland Research

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Alvaro Lacayo from Gabelli.

Alvaro Lacayo
Analyst, Gabelli

Good morning. I just have a question regarding the pricing actions that have already been taken, if you could maybe comment on just price realization, and has it met expectations? Maybe if you could provide some conjecture in terms of product categories where you're seeing better realization than others. On the comment regarding industry rationalization, everybody increasing price, would that include a product that's being imported, and how does that impact your ability to realize price going forward?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The major part of the price increases we've been talking about is around carpet, which has had the biggest impact. The carpet price increases, we've announced the increase, and they're going up. We hope to have most of them in place in the third quarter to help offset it. The price increases in vinyl with the increase in the LVT that's going on and the capacities that are coming in, there's a reduction in price rather than increase going on in pricing in it.

Alvaro Lacayo
Analyst, Gabelli

Thank you. With regards just to the capacity that's coming online this year, over the last year, that $1.4 billion has been the number that you guys have talked about, and it seems like most of that capacity will be coming online at some point during this year. It also seems like you're interested in continuing high levels of capital expenditures. I'm just wondering, with all this capacity that's coming online now, what are the CapEx plans beyond 2018, considering that at this point, you probably have some time to go before you could absorb demand with all the new capacity that's coming online?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

If I had to give you my best guess now, which has no value, is that I would assume that the capital expenditures would decline next year because we won't need all this new capacity unless we can come up with new projects, new greenfield things. At the same time, when we do acquisitions, when we buy the business, typically, we try to figure out ways to make them better than they were before we got them. It's not unusual to significantly invest in either upgrading the assets or putting them into new product innovations or pieces. It's not unusual that we buy something, we'll put $50 million in it without even thinking. To help it get to the next start. It all depends on all those things as we go through.

Alvaro Lacayo
Analyst, Gabelli

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Rehaut from JPMorgan.

Michael Rehaut
Analyst, JPMorgan

Thanks. Good afternoon now. Thanks for taking my question. Sorry about the earlier phone issues. I wanted to circle back and maybe ask the CapEx question from a different perspective. If you look back at the last cycle, your CapEx as a percent of sales was pretty consistent around a 2%-3% of sales type of average. Obviously, in the last five years, it's been more in the high single digits as a percentage of sales. Kind of asked a different way, and understand that obviously there's a lot of capacity expansion, investment in the acquisitions and so forth, but from an industry structure standpoint, I was just curious if there's anything that's kind of changed in the industry or the way that you have to be competitive within the industry that requires a higher level of capital investment.

Jeff, you just said that you would expect CapEx to maybe decline next year. Would it still be in something of a mid-single digit percent of sales range? Because it certainly appears very different than the last cycle in terms of the level of required investment.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Let's see the best way to try to answer it. Our assets are among the best in the industry in every category. We have low-cost, high-efficient assets, and we're constantly looking to improve them from there to stay at the leading front of the business. Anything that we can do that makes economic sense, which gives us returns and paybacks that meet our expectations, we will put on and continue doing because we have the capital to do it, and it will enhance our performance both short-term and long-term. At the same time, we have a huge organization that can take on a lot of things. If we can find new products such as quartz countertops in the U.S., such as sheet vinyl in Russia, such as carpet tile in Europe, we're building new businesses from scratch as you go through.

I know sometimes from the outside it's a little uncomfortable because you guys would like it predictable by quarter. These things are startups. You find things that happen good and bad, and you can't exactly get them. The customers aren't sitting there waiting on you to show up, and you have to give them reasons and build relationships to do it. Now, in the long term, these things over five years will be much higher returns than anything I can do other than my internal investments that I turn on and start up almost immediately. To answer the question is, we have a huge cash flow that's growing. We have an organization that's creative and executes well, and if we can continue doing these things, these are what is going to allow us to grow our earnings and our share value higher than the market over time.

They all come back to return on investment and risk, and I don't know how to give you specifics, and the answer is, if we can find those opportunities and they make sense and they have reasonable risk, we're going to use our capital to do them, and they will give you higher returns than me giving the money back to you.

Michael Rehaut
Analyst, JPMorgan

Understood. Again, I understand all the rationale behind the investment, but I was just curious from another angle, from a structural angle. I appreciate that, Jeff. That's helpful. I guess secondly, just drilling down a little bit on the Global Ceramic segment. You highlighted that some of the year-over-year margin decline driven by increased mix towards home centers and builders. Just to focus on the home centers or kind of a two-part. Number 1, if you could give us a sense of how much mix accounted for the 150 basis points year-over-year drop in margins. In terms of the home centers, higher sales to the home centers for the ceramic business, if that's something that we should expect to continue over the next one to two years.

I think for a long time you've talked about, if I recall correctly, being a little under-indexed to that distribution channel. Just any thoughts around that?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Let's see if I can get close to you. If the industry growth slows down, we have to go take share in the pieces that are growing the most. The builder channel has the most growth in it. Then we're going to be more aggressive in all the pieces. Typically, the specialty channel uses higher value stuff that's more differentiated, that's prettier than the other channels. If we're selling more into the other channels, it affects our product mix as we go through. We manage the business based on utilizing the assets. At the same time, we have to balance it with our margins. Is it? I don't know if you know, when we go into recessions, we change strategies. We start selling much lower value products. We go in and start taking in ceramic.

You know about 50% or more of the industry is imported. When things slow down, we go after the things where they make a home in it. That's just to use the capacity. As we come out, we change the mix again. We're just in this part where we anticipated it growing more, the whole industry, that LVT's taking it. We're now readjusting our strategies to get more of what's left.

W. Christopher Wellborn
COO, Mohawk Industries

The other thing, Michael, I would add is that while LVT is impacting it in the U.S., when you get to markets like Mexico, where we're growing fast, Russia, where we're growing fast, and even in Europe, we've been able to improve our product mix. The ceramic sector is a global business with a lot of levers.

Michael Rehaut
Analyst, JPMorgan

The impact on the mix on the margin for the quarter?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Yeah. I think I mentioned that earlier. It's about $7 million.

Michael Rehaut
Analyst, JPMorgan

Right. That's true. Thanks. Sorry about that. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Our final question comes from the line of Stephen Kim from Evercore ISI.

Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Yeah. Thanks very much, guys. Appreciate it. I just wanted to revisit the $1.4 billion number, Jeff, that you talked about. A year ago, you were talking about a sales opportunity of $1.4 billion from planned capacity additions. At that point, it was off of a base of 2016 revs. Now, even though you're a bigger company than you were, have more sales than you had then, it sounds like you're still looking for another $1.4 billion in potential sales. Just want to confirm that this $1.4 billion is growth over what your annualized run rate of sales is right now. Also, if you didn't have all these capacity additions planned, do you still think you'd be able to grow sales a percent or two per year anyway, even without those expansions?

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Let's see. I think what you're asking is there's two parts. One is that the reason it's hard to talk about capacity is it's a moving target. If you go back a year ago, we were ramping up a ceramic plant in the U.S. That was in the number a year ago, and now this year, that's off the list. The plant's running pretty good, and that one's dropped off, and something new has come on.

Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Exactly.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

That number happens to be the same as a random event. Is it?

Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Yep.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

If I can tell you. Second from that is in the growth of the business, as you write, all of this isn't going to be incremental. At all points in time, we have businesses increasing sales, businesses decreasing sales, and you have profits going up and down. 100% of this isn't going to fall to the bottom line, but major parts of it are. Is it? If you take the thing and just take our average EBITDA of 20% times 1.5, you got $300 million of EBITDA if it all fell to the bottom. I'm not telling you it's all going to fall to the bottom, but the numbers are so big. I don't think the group's focusing on the opportunities that we're investing in.

If you look at it, the $1.4 billion, don't hold me to this, I think it might put us just the incremental in capacity we're adding might be equal to the top five or six flooring producers in the world.

Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Yeah. All right. I appreciate that. The second question I had related to the Rest of World business. We saw kind of a noticeable slowdown in volume growth in 1Q. You had made some comments about laminate capacity sort of running full out. Was curious whether or not there was a particular thing you could highlight as to maybe why the volume growth was a little slower this quarter. In particular, it looks like if this run rate kind of thing continues, it looks like we might expect over tougher comps, maybe a negative volume number in Rest of World volume. I just want to make sure that we understand that properly.

W. Christopher Wellborn
COO, Mohawk Industries

No, I can answer that. Our ongoing business had good growth with LVT, and wood panels performing the best. Our LVT was constrained in the period, and the new production will increase sales and add new products. Our investments in laminate, carpet tile, sheet vinyl will further enhance the business. We have a lot of things that's going to improve it going forward.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

The Godfrey Hirst acquisition is going to go under there also.

Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Sure.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Isn't it?

Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Yeah. I was talking about volume excluding Godfrey Hirst. Chris, it would be your expectation that some of the things you just mentioned should elevate 2Q volumes?

W. Christopher Wellborn
COO, Mohawk Industries

Well, I don't know exactly by quarter, but I can tell you that the capacity we're adding in LVT is coming up. Plus, later on in the year, we'll have these investments in laminate, carpet tile, sheet vinyl, all things that should increase the sales of the business over time.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Listen, we don't think as narrowly as you guys by month. Is it? These things, you start setting them up and putting them in. It may be two or three months longer or it might be two or three months shorter than our plans. That's just part of the deal.

Stephen Kim
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Yeah. All right. Appreciate that, guys. Thanks very much.

Jeffrey S. Lorberbaum
Chairman and CEO, Mohawk Industries

Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions in queue. I will now turn the call back over to Frank Boykin.

Frank H. Boykin
CFO, Mohawk Industries

Listen, we appreciate you guys joining us. We are excited about our opportunities. We believe we're doing the right thing for the long term of the business as well as the short term, and we think long term, we're going to have a much stronger business. Have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.