Earnings Call: Q1 2021

May 5, 2021

Good morning, and welcome to the Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Josh, and I will be your operator. Charles. Participants, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Andrea DeMarco, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Communications and ESG. Ms. DeMarco, please proceed. Thank you, Josh, and good morning, everyone. Tracke, Executive Officer of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings and Mark Kempa, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Frank will begin the call with opening commentary, after which Mark will follow to discuss our financials before handing the call back to Frank for closing remarks. We will then open the call for your questions. As a reminder, this conference call is being simultaneously webcast on the company's Investor Relations website which may also be found on our Investor Relations website. Both the conference call and the presentation will be available for replay for 30 days following today's call. Before we discuss our results, I would like to cover a few items. Our press release with Q1 2021 results was issued That could cause our actual results to differ materially from such statements. These statements should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements contained in our earnings release. Our comments may also reference non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure and other associated disclosures contained in our earnings release and presentation. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Frank Del Rio. Frank? Thank you, Andrea, and good morning, everyone. As always, I hope that all of you joining us today as well as your loved ones remain healthy and safe. Today, we will focus our commentary on the progress we have made thus far towards the resumption of cruising, The overall strength of the booking and pricing environment and our efforts to bolster our liquidity and maximize financial flexibility Time has finally come to where we shift our focus to what I like to call our great cruise comeback, Even if the comeback starts from international ports. As you can see on Slide 4, our return to service plan is centered around 3 key phases. First, we developed our multilayered sales safe health and safety strategy, including mandatory vaccinations for all guests and crew at its cornerstone, which I will touch on in more detail later in the call. 2nd, last month, we announced our initial voyage resumption plan with a 2 pronged approach to restarting cruises from both within and outside of U. S. Waters starting this summer. All three of our brands have now announced initial voyages embarking from both new and normally scheduled international ports And we are and we remain engaged in active dialogue with the CDC regarding a potential resumption of cruising from U. S. Ports. Lastly is the phased relaunch of the remainder of our fleet, the timing of which will depend on several factors such as the global public health environment, Port openings, travel restrictions and the all important CDC. Slide 5 further details our 2 pronged voyage resumption plan. Outside of the U. S, our long awaited return to cruising will begin in July, 1st with 3 Norwegian Cruise Line vessels sailing from Athens and throughout the Greek Isles A new Caribbean home port in Jamaica and the Dominican Republic. Oceania Cruises will start in late August with voyages from Copenhagen And Regent Seven Seas Cruises will resume from Southampton, England beginning in September with 7 Seas Splendor, our newest and most luxurious vessel resuming her inaugural season. The response to our international voyage resumption has been overwhelming and even sailings from our new Caribbean home ports are Forming better than expected despite the extremely condensed booking window. I can't thank our loyal guests, Value travel partners and all of our stakeholders enough for their patience and support over the past year as we prepare for our return to cruising. As for our work to restart voyages in the U. S, on April 5, we submitted a comprehensive ironclad proposal to the CDC Requesting authorization to resume cruising this summer with the robust and healthy safety strategy I just John. And just last week, the CDC issued additional clarification for its previously outlined technical guidance, which alleviated Some of the pain points in the original Phase 2a guidance. Even more importantly, we were pleased to see the CDC incorporate vaccines, our most powerful tool against COVID-nineteen into its guidance, creating 2 different pathways for the resumption of cruising from U. S. Ports. 1 for vaccinated voyages with a vaccination threshold of 95% for guests and 98% for crew and one for non vaccinated voyages that fall below this threshold. The vaccinated path, which is consistent with, but falls Short of our plan for 100% vaccination of guests and crew has fewer hurdles to clear before return to cruising, including the removal of the requirement for simulated voyages prior to revenue sailings and the relaxing of certain burdensome and costly testing requirements. In addition, yesterday, the CDC issued technical guidance for Phase 2b and 3, which covers Simulated voyages and restricted voyages and the application process for a conditional sailing certificate. The guidance includes an operations manual for simulated and restricted voyages for which we need more clarity on whether the numerous and onerous requirements would apply To vaccinated voyages as well or only to those that are not. Our team is working through the new guidance, But at first glance, however, it appears to pass forward as a bit rockier and a bit steeper than originally expected. As time goes by and given how long it takes to stand up a ship from cold layup, the urgent need For an acceptable and definitive agreement with the CDC is imperative as a potential mid summer restart from U. S. Ports could be in jeopardy. However, the CDC's recent willingness to engage with the industry in constructive dialogue Have shown that they are committed to working with us to find an acceptable path forward, and we are certainly in a better place today than we were just 30 days ago. The progress we have made so far has been possible in part due to the incredible grassroots efforts undertaken across the Cruise ecosystem To encourage elected officials to help resume cruising in the U. S, which supports thousands of jobs, families and small businesses throughout the country. Through CLIA's Ready, Set, Sail platform and our own safe to sail advocacy campaign, We were able to send over 150,000 messages to elected officials throughout the United States. Thank you to all of you who have called, Charles. Emailed or tweeted your officials in support of the cruise industry. The win is at our back and now is the time to keep the positive momentum going with our advocacy efforts. So I encourage you to continue reaching out to your elected officials by cruising or excuse me, by texting crews to 52,886 and have your voices heard. Turning to Slide 6, we unveiled our robust and multilayered sales safe health and safety program, which includes Mandatory vaccinations for all guests and crew as its cornerstone. We believe that vaccinations This combined with dozens of science backed preventive protocols, including universal COVID-nineteen testing that were developed by the healthy sale panel, John. We'll provide one of, if not the safest vacation option available anywhere on land or at sea. Our protocols extend well beyond those of the already successfully reopened travel and hospitality sectors, including hotels, resorts, casinos, Theme parks, restaurants, movie theaters, arenas and airlines. SailSafe was developed in conjunction with our expert advisors, including the healthy sale panel And our newly announced Safe Global Health and Wellness Council chaired by former FDA Commissioner, Doctor. Scott Godley. The council, which is comprised of 6 leading public health and scientific experts featured on Slide 7, will complement the work of the healthy sail panel And provide Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings with specific expert advice on the implementation and continuous improvement of our SailSafe program. Shifting to our booking trends, which you can see on Slide 8, we continue to see the strongest demand we have ever experienced for future cruise occasions John. Full complement of our all important travel agent partners in a virtual lockdown from many of our international source markets. Perhaps the best indicator of this pent up demand is our booking volumes, which during what is probably the most unorthodox wave season in our industry's history, accelerated John, coupled with the opening of Voyagers for sale further in advance, continues to result in a significant expansion of the booking curve With the Q1's curve nearly doubling versus the same time last year, pent up demand is particularly evident for 2022 voyages. For the first half of twenty twenty two, our load factor is meaningfully ahead of 2019 with pricing higher when excluding the dilutive impact of future cruise credits. Keep in mind that 2019 was a record year, which makes the strong booking trends we are experiencing even more impressive. In addition, approximately 70% of our booked position is comprised of new cash bookings with the remainder is comprised of future crew certificates. By the time summer 2021 comes around and the industry begins to resume operations, more than 50,000,000 would be cruises have been left to shore. So the pent up demand is real and it's deep. And you can see that in our growing advanced ticket sales, which increased approximately $200,000,000 on a gross basis in Quarter were up approximately 40% versus the prior quarter's build. We believe we have reached an inflection point As this is the highest gross build since the beginning of the pandemic. And as we get closer to our resumption of cruising and begin phasing in the rest of our fleet, We expect this momentum to continue to accelerate sequentially. Another exciting milestone reached in the quarter was the naming of Vista, the first of Two new 1200 guest Allure class ships for the Oceania Cruises brand and the first new build for the line in over a decade, which you can see on Slide 9. The upscale vessel, the 7th for the line will set sail in early 2023, followed by a sister ship in 2025. Like her sister vessels, Vista will deliver the finest cuisine at sea And we'll introduce several unique firsts for the brand in the realm of dining and guest experience. More reveals of Vista's venues and experiences will begin later this month and the lead up to the launch of sales for her inaugural voyages in September of 2021. I'll be back later to provide an update on our ESG efforts as Well, as provide closing remarks, but now I'd like to turn the call over to Mark for a financial update. Mark? Thank you, Frank. My remarks today will focus on the continued execution of our COVID-nineteen financial action plan and our planned return to cruising later this summer. I'm pleased to say that we are beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel with the significant progress we have made in recent months on our return to cruising. Despite this positive momentum, we have not lost sight that the pandemic is not yet over and we remain focused on maintaining our cost discipline and pulling all levers available to conserve cash and maximize financial visibility in what is an improving but still uncertain environment. As I have said before, our team is focused on what we can control and we continue to adapt our strategy as needed as the pandemic evolves. Slide 10 illustrates the 3 focus areas of our action plan and the additional proactive measures taken since the beginning of the Q1. First, we continue to tightly control operating expenses and capital expenditures through a number of initiatives, including the significant reduction or outright deferral of term demand generating marketing expenses and non essential capital expenditures. As an example, our non newbuild capital expenditures continue to be less than half our pre pandemic expectations for 2021. In addition, we finalized €50,000,000 of incremental deferrals of new build related shipyard payments since our last earnings call, Resulting in a total deferral of EUR 270,000,000 through the end of the Q2 2022. 2nd, we have made significant progress on improving our debt maturity profile to provide additional near term financial flexibility. In March, we repaid the Pride of America and Norwegian Jewel facilities, which were set to mature in 2022, leaving no significant debt maturities until 2024. We also worked with our lenders to amend certain credit agreements To free up approximately $2,000,000,000 of additional debt capacity, most of which is on an unsecured basis. While we believe our liquidity position today is strong, this incremental debt capacity meaningfully improves our financial flexibility and gives us additional optionality should the need arise. And the final focus of area of our action plan is securing additional capital. We successfully tapped the market, which resulted in an approximately $1,000,000,000 of incremental liquidity in the quarter. Slide 11 illustrates the 2 highly successful capital market transactions executed in March. First, we issued $1,100,000,000 of senior unsecured notes consisting of a $575,000,000 tack on To the December unsecured notes offering and $525,000,000 of new unsecured notes due 2028. These transactions generated approximately $650,000,000 of incremental liquidity after repaying the Norwegian Jewel and Pride of America facilities, both of which were to mature in 2022. 2nd, we went to the market with a strategic multifaceted offering to We proactively manage our balance sheet. We raised approximately $1,600,000,000 of proceeds, net of underwriting fees Through a public common equity offering of approximately 53,000,000 shares at $30 per share. We then used approximately $1,000,000,000 of the net proceeds to fully repay the L. Catterton exchangeable notes due 2026. This opportunistic transaction had several strategic benefits. First, it enhanced our balance sheet by effectively converting debt to equity with the prepayment of debt at par. 2nd, the early redemption of the El Caterton notes enabled us to repurchase A significantly lower number of shares than what would have been required if the notes were held to maturity. 3rd, we unlocked value and added approximately $530,000,000 of incremental liquidity with limited additional dilution to shareholders As the vast majority of the shares were already reserved for the Elk Catterton notes. And lastly, we reduced our future interest expense burden. To date, we've accessed the capital markets 7 times over a 12 month period with several multi instrument transactions. As a result, since the onset of the pandemic, we've raised more than $7,500,000,000 including the drawdown of the 8 $175,000,000 revolver early last year. This incredible feat would not have been possible without the hard work, Charles. Support and partnership of countless individuals, including our team at Norwegian, our lenders, the shipyards, investors, bankers and many, many more. Turning to our illustrative liquidity profile on Slide 12. Total liquidity as of March 31 was approximately 3,400,000,000 which is net of the portion of customer deposit refunds that are included in accounts payable as of quarter end. We have also estimated approximately $100,000,000 for anticipated health and safety investments. These factors combined result in Net liquidity on a pro form a basis of approximately $3,300,000,000 enabling us to continue to navigate through this fluid environment and execute on our return to service plan. As for cash burn, our team continues to be laser focused on cost containment and cash conservation. For the Q1, our average monthly cash burn was in line with prior guidance At approximately $190,000,000 or approximately $170,000,000 per month excluding non recurring debt modification costs. We paid approximately $50,000,000 of one time costs in the quarter as a result of debt deferrals and covenant waivers and suspensions, which when combined with the new build payment extensions have resulted in approximately $1,000,000,000 of additional liquidity through Q1 of 2022. As for the Q2, we expect the average cash burn to be approximately $190,000,000 per month as we prepare for a resumption of cruising beginning in July. Restart expenses are primarily related to repositioning, Provisioning and staffing of vessels, implementing new health and safety protocols and a measured ramp up of demand generating marketing investments. We will continue to be disciplined and take a thoughtful approach to reintroducing costs with our voyage resumptions in order to conserve cash, while at the same time balancing the need to drive new cash bookings. Slide 21 details additional guidance we have provided for certain metrics, including depreciation and amortization, interest expense and newbuild related capital expenditures. Turning to Slide 13, we ended the Q1 with approximately $3,500,000,000 of cash and cash equivalents. Our cash balance in the Q1 increased driven by approximately $1,200,000,000 of net proceeds from capital raises. This was partially offset by approximately $570,000,000 of operating cash burn, including operating expenses, SG and A, interest and CapEx, Customer cash refunds for canceled voyages of approximately $100,000,000 collateral obligations of approximately $250,000,000 And a net working capital and other outflow of approximately $50,000,000 which includes health and safety investments. Before handing the call back to Frank, I want to reiterate that as we continue to navigate through this crisis and prepare to execute on our voyage resumption plans, We have not taken our focus off the future. Our medium and long term financial recovery plan, which is provided on Slide 14, It's focused on 3 critical components. 1st, rebuilding and gradually returning to pre COVID margin levels, While continuing to identify opportunities to further drive margin expansion, second, maximize our cash generation And 3rd, focus on optimizing our balance sheet and charting a path to delever. With that, I'll hand the call back over to Frank for closing commentary. Thank you, Mark. And before we wrap up our prepared remarks, I'd like to provide an update on our global sustainability program, Sail and Sustain, which is reflected on Slide 15. Despite the current public health challenges we face, our commitment to drive a positive impact on society And the environment through the advancement of our ESG strategy remains at the core of our everyday operations. Throughout the crisis, we have remained committed to supporting our local communities and the destinations we visit. Earlier this week, we announced that we are providing a $10,000,000 Cash support to 6 Alaskan port communities to help families and small businesses with basic relief programs potential 2nd year of 0 or at best limited cruise operations during the Owen Point summer tourism season, Which would bring in another blow to Alaska's hard hit tourism economy. We are doing everything in our power to resume cruising in the U. S. As soon as possible, So we can provide additional much needed relief to this important region. In addition, we also joined the Shop Local Alaska program, Which is a joint initiative between Buy Alaska and voyage.com to encourage the support of severely impacted small businesses in Alaska. This virtual platform allows consumers who live around the globe to browse and purchase a wide range of items from virtual Alaska shops. In our local Miami community, we provided $100,000 worth of Visa gift cards to the cruise members of the International Longshoremen's Association, Local 1416, who saw over 60% of their business wiped out nearly overnight with the suspension of cruise voyages. We were proud to support this pillar of the local community, which has been providing longshore labor to PortMiami for over 85 years and holds the historic position as the oldest black union in Florida. As part of our ongoing humanitarian efforts And in the spirit of giving back, we also provided more than $2,000,000 of in kind humanitarian relief to support various community organizations John. This support was directed to a variety of efforts, including local food banks, After relief and COVID-nineteen recovery efforts. In addition and in celebration of teacher appreciation week on Monday, We relaunched our Giving Joy Contest, which provides educators with 100 free cruises and a chance to win up to 25,000 cash awards for their school. Throughout this unprecedented period, countless teachers have worked tirelessly to give their all to their students, and we believe now more than ever, they deserve our recognition and gratitude. On the environmental front, we are honored to receive CJ's 2021 ACG Build America Merit Award for environmental enhancement for our newly constructed double ship pier at Ward Cove in Ketchikan, Alaska. Through this project, we were able to transform Ward Cove, a Superfund site into a sustainable, Environmentally friendly and entertaining sites for the local community and cruise visitors alike. Going forward, we continue to be focused on enhancing our ESG disclosures to provide additional transparency. And I look forward to sharing additional details with you as we continue on our ESG journey. Turning to Slide 16, I'd like to leave you with a few final key takeaways. First, we are putting health and safety at the forefront of our return to service plan as demonstrated by our Science Backed SalesSafe Health and Safety program, which includes 100% vaccination of all guests and crew in addition to comprehensive protocols. We will continue to work with our expert advisors to evolve these protocols over time with the latest science and technology developments. We are focused on our great cruise comeback with our phased voyage resumption plans both within and outside of U. S. Ports. At the same time, we are keeping our longer term strategic and financial priorities in focus as we execute on our recovery plans. And lastly, we continue to experience strong future demand for cruising across all three of our award winning brands with very positive booking and pricing trends for 2022 and beyond. Overall, I am more hopeful today than when I spoke with you last. I can't thank enough our dedicated and passionate team members around the globe for all their hard work and perseverance, which has brought us to this critical point and which will propel us forward. We still have a long road to full recovery ahead of us, but we are optimistic and encouraged by the progress we have recently made to a resumption of cruising as well as the continued robust John. We can't wait to get back to what we do best, providing guests with incredible experiences and lifetime memories and our shareholders with industry leading financial metrics and year over year improved financial results. And with that, Josh. Josh, please let's open the call for questions. Thank you, Mr. Del Rio. Chuck. Our first question comes from Stephen Grambling with Goldman Sachs. You may proceed with your question. Thanks. Good morning. I guess a quick clarification on pricing. If we look at the individual Shipt brands, Geoff. What are you seeing in pricing, both including and excluding FCCs? Steve, good morning. They're up, And they're up sequentially. We raised prices beginning at the beginning of the second quarter. And I'm just amazed at how much pricing power we actually have, Given the difficulties that we all know about and the relatively low marketing spend that we John. I have put out in the last quarter and a half or so. And so it's when you hear about inflation, Inflation means prices go up. And it's good to see that we too are seeing the positive side of inflation, which is pricing power. So we're very pleased with that. And I guess as a follow-up since you mentioned the inflation, there's obviously been a lot of talk of labor shortages In the hospitality industry, but of course you have a bit of a different labor model. So I'm curious as you start prepping for resuming sailing, what are you seeing on the labor front and how should you How should investors generally be thinking through the puts and takes between inflation versus the efficiency actions on your overall cost structure? Chuck. Yes. And we were just talking about it before the call. Over 95% of our crew are non American nationals. So we're not seeing Any kind of pressure on the labor side. The biggest issue on labor for us getting the crew back on the ships Charles. The various travel restrictions that still exist around the world, visas, consulates and embassies Are slow in issuing visas, the situation in India now we all know about. And then of course, we've committed to 100% vaccination of crew. So putting the crew together with the vaccine, these are all challenges That may impact our ability to stand up shifts in the future, but we don't really believe that it will. With vaccines coming on, the surplus of vaccines now coming on pretty strong around at least around the U. S, We feel that we'll be able to stand up the vessels on a pretty good clip. That's helpful. Thanks. I'll yield to the floor, but best of luck getting back out there. Thanks, Dave. Thank you. Our next question comes from Bram Muntur with JPMorgan. You Frank, I was hoping you could opine a little further on the CDC's announcement yesterday and wondering if you thought that the spirit of the update from them Was aligned with the CDC's own goal of getting you guys sailing back in July? And then specific to your comment, Which parts of the CSO, which I know may not apply to you in the end, did you think were more rocky or steeper than expected? Look, I think everybody has the same goal of getting the industry back in operation. The CMC themselves have Stated that, cruising or any activity cannot be zero risk. They've acknowledged that vaccines is the game changer. That's why society is racing towards vaccinations as fast as possible, Charles. So I have to tell you that I am disappointed at First Read. I'm going to give the CDC an opportunity to expand and clarify. We have a call with them this afternoon On some of the requirements, for example, as we read yesterday's pronouncements, Even though everyone on board would be vaccinated, in between bites of your meal And in between sips of your beverage, you have to put on your mask, take off your mask. So nobody should order soup because your mask might get sloppy. So that to me is just preposterous. It's not in the spirit of where the country is heading, where President Biden wants to Open the country, 70% of American adults will be vaccinated by the beginning of Q3. So we hope that we're reading it wrong. We hope that there will be clarifications. Quite frankly, we're hoping that These some of these more onerous requirements in the In Phase 2b only apply to cruises, ships or brands or companies that Are not going to vaccinate 95% of passengers and 98% of crew as mandated by the CDC. We hope that if you do get to 95, 98 or even better, the 100, 100 that Norwegian is proposing, That there won't be a need for such impractical, onerous burdensome Requirements. So we'll see what happens over the next few days as we engage with them, reengage with them on these Particular phases, but certainly on first three, we were disappointed. That's really helpful. Thanks for that. And then a follow-up, maybe an impossible hypothetical, but if everything Went well from here on out with the CDC in the very near term, like you get those positive revisions You're looking forward in the July, looks like the July is going to happen. Best case scenario, and again, you found this out, let's say, tomorrow, best case scenario, how many additional shifts do you think you John. And the launch for July in the U. S? None. I mean, the July U. S. Launch, At least for our company, it's just not possible. It was possible back in early April when we proposed to the CDC 100% vaccination, we've always said it takes about 90 days to stand up a vessel. So from April 5, when we submitted our proposal, John. 90 days would have been early July, and that was possible. But today, we're in early May. So now we're looking past that. But look, there's more to it than just what the John. There is only so much capacity to be able to stand up vessels. We standing up a vessel after a 15, 18 month And making it more complicated is the travel restrictions for CRU, the vaccination mandates that we are imposing for CRU. So we are focused on standing up our first five vessels that we've announced, first 6 vessels that we've announced For Norwegian Ocean and Region outside the U. S, as you know, we, the industry, we, our company, Regularly operate vessels outside the U. S, especially in the summer season where Europe is the big draw. And so July, August, September is summer and the best and highest use for our vessels is to operate in Europe And that's what we're doing. In a couple of occasions, we are standing up vessels in the Caribbean, because the CDC, up to now has not Given that the pathway, we'll see how things progress over time. But remember, it is a seasonal industry. And outside of Alaska, Which is in doubt, not only because of the CDC, but because of the Canadian situation. Outside of Alaska, The world's cruise fleets are typically outside of the U. S. In the summertime. We're cruising elsewhere. We're Cruising primarily in the Mediterranean and Northern Europe, etcetera. So seasonality plays a big role and as well The final CDC regulations will play a big role. And Brent, as we've always said, we're not in a race. We want to do this properly. We want to instill confidence in our passengers, our guests, all of our constituents. So We want to do it in a methodical manner and it's important that we just start the momentum going. That's the key. Got it. Thanks for that guys and good luck. Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. You may proceed with your question. Hey, guys. Good morning. So Frank, I guess I'm a little bit confused here. I mean, you guys have already You indicated that all your guests and all your crew are going to have to be vaccinated. So am I not reading this right from the CDC yesterday that Chuck. You would be able to skip the simulated cruises and be able to start North American cruising sooner rather than later. And Chuck. If you did go down the path of participating in the simulated cruises for certain ships that don't meet those vaccine mandates, Do you believe that 60 day wait period would still be in place or would that get accelerated? Good morning, Steve. We're going to have one rule And one rule only, and that is, at least at the beginning, 100% of our guests and our crew will be vaccinated. We're not going to Charles. Pick and choose that this ship is less safe than another ship. It's one rule covers everyone, whether you're sailing in Europe, Sailing out of the Caribbean or sailing out of the U. S. So, I really haven't paid too much attention to the latest Simulated voyages because we don't plan on participating in that program. We're going to be fully vaccinated and therefore, we won't have to. So I just I don't know the answer to your question in terms of timing. Okay, got you. And let me ask this a little bit differently then. So you obviously have been in front of the CDC and you've had conversations with the CDC and I'm sure you've asked this question to them. But How can they differentiate between you guys and let's take for example the airline industry. So If I'm going in an airline, I don't have to be vaccinated. There's no social distancing requirements. If I go in a cruise line on one of your ships, everybody is going to be vaccinated. Charles. What is their answer to that question in terms of how they're differentiating there? Steve, you just threw a piece of red meat at me. Charles. Listen, they just won't answer it. We're perplexed. We're flabbergasted. We're outraged. Airplanes, John. There isn't another venue on earth, not a school, not a factory, not your office building, apartment building, Much less an entertainment venue like a casino, hotel or resort that commit that claim. We will have we will be the safest place on earth By definition, on top of that vaccination mandate, we're going to implement the 74 healthy sale panel recommendation. That one two punch John. No one on earth has it, yet, the CDC continues to treat us differently. We dare say unfairly. And look, it's not like the CDC has done a great job of controlling the virus around the country. We ranked number 1 in the world for the most infections, the most hospitalization, I think the most deaths, yet they pick on the cruise industry to an Reem, that is just unbelievable, unexplainable and It frustrates us to no end. We're hopeful that the discussions that we've been having lately with them, These two times a week calls will result And continued improvement, we saw improvement in when they announced last Wednesday night clarifications to their original Phase 2a. We're certainly going to let them know this afternoon that what they published for Phase 2b and 3 It's unacceptable in many areas and that we're again hopeful at this point. I can't say more than hopeful That clarifications will come soon to alleviate the pain points that we've identified. And if I could ask one more quick one for probably for Mark. But Mark, whether you start North American cruising July, August, September, whatever timeframe, obviously, you're going to have some operations around Europe and other parts of the Caribbean in the near term. John. I guess the question, Mark, is your current liquidity position, do you feel that it's pretty adequate at this point, meaning you feel comfortable enough with where you sit Hi, Steve. Look, we have a very solid liquidity position today, almost $3,500,000,000 at the end of the quarter. So Geoff. We feel like we have a great foundation going forward. We still have a sufficient amount of tools in our toolbox should we need it. But the key really is we have to stay ahead of our needs, but the key is that they're still relatively uncertain. There's a lot of uncertainty out there. So We have to watch that. While we're certainly encouraged with the recent momentum and the discussions that have taken place and with the restart, That certainly bodes well for us and the rest of the industry. So we just need to see that continued momentum going forward. But we do have tools should we need it, but we feel we're in a very strong position as we sit here today. Okay, great. Thanks guys. Best of luck. Thank you. Our next question comes from Patrick Scholes with Truist Securities. You may proceed with your question. Hi, good morning, everyone. Frank, you had talked about With having complete vaccinations to start with out of the U. S. Overcoming a hurdle With the CDC, however, you have Florida prohibiting Customers and patrons of businesses providing any documentation regarding certifying a COVID-nineteen vaccine, How do you plan to deal with that Florida law in this situation? Thank you. Chuck. That's an issue, Patrick. We've had discussions with the Governor's office, those continue. But it is a classic state versus federal government issue. Legally, lawyers believe that federal law applies and not State law, but I'm not a lawyer and we hope that this doesn't become a legal football or a political football. But at the end of the day, cruise ships have motors, propellers and rudders. And God forbid, we can't operate in the state of Florida for whatever reason. And there are other states that we do operate from. And we can operate from the Caribbean For ships that otherwise would have gone to Florida. We certainly hope it doesn't come to that. Everyone wants to operate out of Florida. It's a very Lucrative market, it's close drive market. So but it is an issue, can't ignore it. Jeff. And we hope that everyone is pushing in the same direction, which is we want to resume cruising in a safe manner, Especially at the beginning. Things might be different 6 months from now or a year from now. But today, with the pandemic still being front and John. In everybody's mind, and we're just getting out of the worst part of it just weeks ago. I think everyone should be wanting to Start cruising in the safest possible manner, and that's exactly what the Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings plan does, 100% vaccination of both crew and passengers. For the life of me, I don't understand 98% and not 100%. So you got a you have a big ship, you have 1800 crew members on board and you're going to You're going to vaccinate 1764 of them, but not 36. I mean, what a loophole to allow Potential COVID to be introduced in the crew area, 100%, at least at the beginning, I believe should be the model. And if the CDC wants to go in a different direction, the rest of the industry wants to go in, great. We want to go 100%. We want clearance for 100%. And as of today, which is A little over a month since we submitted our proposal to the CDC, we've not yet heard back from them. And that is very disappointing. Okay. Thank you for that detailed answer. Thank you. Our next question comes from Robin Fordy with DBS. You may proceed with your question. Thank you. Like everyone else, I have Questions about the restart and timing, but I know that there aren't all the answers. So I actually I'm going to ask a question. One of the slides talking about the recovery plan, it mentioned private island infrastructure Chuck. And even ahead of maybe some deleveraging. So I'm just wondering if that is something related to the reopening plan that is You felt you needed given they may be initially limited to private islands and just kind of wanted to hear what that reference may be? Thanks. Hi, Robin. It's Mark. So look that as we look at our path going forward and our plans medium, long term, Certainly, obviously, delevering is a critical component of what we want to do. And we'll continuously be looking at that. When we talk about our islands and our infrastructure, we've been talking about this for a while that we believe the private islands Our unique destination that we can continue to monetize in a positive economic way. That said, we are not targeting anything with our comeback where it would force us to have significant CapEx around that. We're simply keeping on our radar that as we recover and as we rebuild, those are opportunities where we can invest And see a significant return on. So, I wouldn't read too much into it. But as we go forward, we're going to balance all needs, whether it's delevering, Trying to take out some debt, investing in the fleet, investing in our islands, investments to become more efficient, That's all going to be in our playbook and we'll balance the needs accordingly. Okay, great. Thank you very much. Thank you. Our next question comes from Jamie Katz with Morningstar. You may proceed with your question. Hi, good morning. I don't think you guys have mentioned the demand that you've seen on the 3 ships that you put into the Caribbean and announced last month. So If there's any insight into how pent up demand has played out, for those itineraries, I'd love to hear it. And then I do think the Sourcing of cruisers has been a little bit more geographically homogeneous for some of the other Cruise Lines and what they have currently announced in Europe. So are there any logistical difficulties we should be thinking about when you're sourcing across Geographies or because of the vaccination requirement, is that not as much a problem? Thanks. Yes. Thank you, Jamie. Your first question, all three of the Initial sailings we announced for Norwegian, 1 vessel out of Athens for the Greek Isles doing incredibly well. And to tie that with your second question, consistent with our prior history, a little over 80% of the People who are booked on those cruises out of Greece are Americans. So Americans are willing to get on an airplane and fly over there. Chuck. The 2 sailings out of the Caribbean are doing better than expected. Remember that normally, Caribbean sailing out of Miami, out of South Florida, this is the low season. So we have 2 ships Well, we normally have 1. So the on relative terms, they're not going to be the highest producing vessels in terms of yields. But given what we expected, they're doing better than expected, especially given the fact that we introduced them only about a month ago. And so the booking window is very, very compressed. But again, speaking to the Pennzep demand, it's filling up quickly. And so, I'm glad we did it. It's certainly deep, keeping the ship laid up, But we would have preferred to start those vessels in Alaska, start those vessels in Europe, but Because of other reasons that you know of, we couldn't. And so the next best thing was to start new home ports. And we'll see what happens. We're very encouraged, especially with the vessel out of the Dominican Republic. The Doctor has very good airlift to the U. S. I believe it's the number one destinations for Americans to the Caribbean. And who knows, that vessel might prove to be So profitable there that it never returns back to U. S. Waters, which would be, again, one of the economic casualties of this prolonged CDC induced suspension. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Vince Setya with Cleveland Research. You may proceed with your question. Hi, thanks. Question on longer term supply demand dynamics. Pre COVID, There was concern in the industry of elevated capacity additions, limiting pricing power. Based on what you're seeing today with Scrapping or delaying of the scheduled arrivals, how much lower do you think industry capacity ends up Shaking out over the next couple of years. And what are you seeing early on right now for longer dated sailings in 2022 and 2023? And How does that shape your view of industry pricing going forward? So that's 9 questions in one. I'll try to remember them. Look, I think that the narrative of too much capacity coming online pre pandemic Had pretty much been debunked. All the cruise industries were taking on the new delivery, digesting that new capacity very nicely and increasing pricing. And so we always our comeback always was, we only have 28 ships. There are many unserved, John. To serve markets that we simply don't have ships to operate in, and so we're eager to get our hands on our new vessels, all 9 of them across the 3 brands. And what we're seeing now with the pandemic is pricing is strong, demand is stronger than ever. I mean to give you a nugget of data, the Oceania and Regent brands Reached their 50% load factor for 2022 over 100 days earlier Then they did for the record year of 2019. Nearly 4 months, they hit their 50% load factor mark Earlier than ever before and at higher prices. So Pricing power is there. In terms of capacity exits, I think Chuck. From what I can see, and I don't know because different companies you got to have an individual company. But from what I can see, the Capacity exits have already occurred. We have the youngest fleet in the industry, so we never considered any exits and still haven't. And the order book in the future hasn't changed. So they're coming with very, very few delays and whatever is delayed is delayed By a few weeks, a month or so. So, look, the industry was healthy as heck before the pandemic. We're seeing during the pandemic how resilient it is, how much pent up demand there is. We just need to get started. We just need to get all these ridiculous regulations, this overreach eliminated. And listen, I'll tell you this, if we could operate, given what's on the books right now for 2022, If we can operate the itineraries that we're actually selling, 2022 could be a record year. That's how good things are. But the big risk is, can we operate? Are we going to have to continue to cancel sailings because of this rolling conditional sale order, which is Chuck. Very difficult to comply with. And it's not just the CDC. Let me try to be a little fair here. The rest of the world has got to open up as well. The CDC affects U. S. Embarking, disembarking guests, But the rest of Europe has to open up. Asia has to open up. South America has to open up. Remember, this is a global industry. Cruise companies visit 500 ports around the world and only a handful are open today. And so that's the risk. How quickly can The world returned to normal, to opening up the ports, lifting the travel restrictions, etcetera. But from a pure market dynamic point of view, 2022 would be a record year. That's really helpful. Thank you. And Josh, we have time for one last question, please. Thank you. Our last question comes from Ivan Feinseth with Tigress Financial. You may proceed with your question. Thank you for taking my questions and Chuck. Congratulations on fighting this good fight and almost getting there. I just have a couple of quick questions. Do You think that the demand is even greater than you're experiencing because a lot of people may be hesitant to book, but once they know they can book and The rules are clear that you will see maybe travel agents are saying, I have a bunch of people ready to book once it's ready to go. And also what which ones of your lines are seeing the strongest demand and the best pricing? And then one last thing. Charles. A lot of the travel industry has started to embrace the concept that's been driven by a certain company that books houses as Working from home doesn't have to be your home and the work from anywhere can be anywhere and maybe there's an opportunity to address people that want to work from anywhere including Charles. A cruise ship from time to time would be a great place to work. Yes. I don't know. I think that's a little fatty. Remember, you work from home because you have this incredible fast Internet service. As you know, Internet Service on a cruise ship in the middle of the ocean is not optimal. So I wouldn't get too carried away on that one, Ivan. Look, in terms of overall demand, We're hitting only on partial cylinders. The U. S. Is by far the biggest driver of new demand, Even though we have 50,000 cases a day and all the restrictions that we still have to live with And the news cycle and everything else, Europe for the most part has not reopened in terms of Chuck. Robust marketing and travel agencies coming back. The UK is doing okay. Australia, New Zealand, which is, I think, you know, has always Number 3, number 4 top source market for us is completely closed down. So the fact that we're doing as well as we're doing With marketing spend that is in the neighborhood of 30% to 40% of what we normally spend, the news cycle, The travel restrictions, the unknown, right, we're just not sure what's going to be happening. There is no certainty. The international source markets for the most part being suboptimal. I mean, like I said in my prepared remarks, the pent up demand is deep, 50,000,000 people. By the time summer rolls around, 33,000,000 people cruise a year. We will have been shut down 18 months. That's 50,000,000 people that wouldn't John. That would have cruise that haven't cruise. And so I think we have a pent up demand tail That we're going to be able to enjoy over the next couple of years, certainly in 2022 and into 2023 and perhaps beyond. Because look, it's sort of like the yin and the yang. We've gone with no cruising, with 0. And these people want to cruise and they're going to cruise in the future. And so We believe that sets up a beautiful dynamic for increased pricing and we're taking advantage of it to be as well booked as we are. And again, I gave you a nugget That Oceane and Regent hit their 50% load factor for 2022 over 100 days earlier than they ever had before And their pricing is up. Even with DFCC dilution is just, it's unbelievable. Just let me cruise CDC and we'll have incredible financial results. Just let us cruise. And Ivan, your comment on the demand getting better, I think you're spot on. We are seeing that with data points. When we talk about our Booking volumes that have doubled, we see our ATS continually growing. So as consumers get more certainty and more comfortable, I think there's good signs that that should continue and continue strong. So we're very hopeful around that. Well, congratulations on managing this so well and really all on your own because like other industries, you received so far no help. So from hopefully, we're getting there soon. So good luck. Thank you, Ivan. All the best to you. Before we go, I'd like to remind everyone that our Annual General Meeting is coming up on May 20. This year, we have a number of very important proposals on the ballot, including an increase in our authorized share capital. We are extremely appreciative of the support we've received from our shareholders recommendations for our Annual General Meeting proposals so that we have the flexibility to continue to respond to the unprecedented challenges of the pandemic. Thank you again everyone for your time and support. And as always, we'll be available to answer any of your questions. Have a great day and stay well. Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.