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Earnings Call: Q3 2019

Oct 22, 2019

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the NextEra Energy and NextEra Energy Partners Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note today's event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Matt Roskott, Director of Investor Relations.

Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Rocco. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q3 2019 combined earnings conference call for NextEra Energy and NextEra Energy Partners. With me this morning are Jim Robo, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of NextEra Energy Rebecca Kiava, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of NextEra Energy John Ketchum, President and Chief Executive Officer of NextEra Energy Resources and Mark Hexton, Executive Vice President of NextEra Energy, all of whom are also officers of NextEra Energy Partners as well as Eric Silagy, President and Chief Executive Officer of Florida Power and Light Company. Rebecca will provide an overview of our results and our executive team will then be available to answer your questions. We will be making forward looking statements during this call based on current expectations and assumptions, which are subject to risks and uncertainties.

Actual results could differ materially from our forward looking statements if any of our key assumptions are incorrect or because of other factors discussed in today's earnings news release, in the comments made during this conference call, in the Risk Factors section of the accompanying presentation, in our latest reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, each of which can be found on our websites, nexteraenergy.comandnexterenergypartners.com. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward looking statements. Today's presentation also includes references to non GAAP financial measures. You should refer to the information contained in the slides accompanying today's presentation for definitional information and reconciliations of historical non GAAP measures to the closest GAAP financial measure. With that, I will turn the call over to Rebecca.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Matt, and good morning, everyone. NextEra Energy delivered strong third quarter results and building upon the solid progress made in the first half of the year remains well positioned to achieve our overall objectives for 2019. NextEra Energy's 3rd quarter adjusted earnings per share increased by $0.22 or approximately 10% against the prior year quarter, reflecting strong execution at Florida Power and Light, Gulf Power and Energy Resources. Year to date, we have grown adjusted earnings per share by nearly 12% compared to the prior year comparable period. We continue to execute well on our major initiatives, including continuing to capitalize on one of the best renewable development periods in our history.

At Florida Power and Light, earnings per share increased $0.03 year over year. All of our major capital projects, including one of the largest solar expansions ever in the United States, remains on track as we continue to advance our long term focus on delivering outstanding customer value. FPL's typical residential bill remains nearly 30% below the national average and the lowest among all of the Florida investor owned utilities, while FPL maintains best in class service reliability and an emissions profile that is among the cleanest in the nation. At Gulf Power, we continue to execute on the cost reduction initiatives and smart capital investments that we outlined at our June Investor Conference. We remain focused on improving the Gulf Power customer value proposition by providing lower costs, higher reliability and outstanding customer service and clean energy solutions.

Along these lines, the Blue Indigo solar project, which is Gulf Power's first solar development project, is expected to go in service in early 2020 and generate significant customer savings over its lifetime. At Energy Resources, adjusted EPS increased by roughly 19% year over year as contributions from new investments continue to drive growth. Continuing the success of recent quarters, since the last earnings call, our renewables backlog increased by approximately 13.75 Megawatts, including 3.50 Megawatts of battery storage projects, as we further advance the next phase of renewables deployment that pairs low cost wind and solar energy with a low cost battery storage solution. Overall, with 3 quarters 3 strong quarters complete in 2019, we are pleased with the progress we are making at NextEra Energy and are well positioned to achieve the full year financial expectations that we have previously discussed, of course, subject to our usual caveats. Now let's look at the detailed results, beginning with FPL.

For the Q3 of 2019, FPL reported net income of $683,000,000 or $1.40 per share, an increase of $29,000,000 or $0.03 per share, respectively, year over year. Regulatory capital employed increased by approximately 8% over the same quarter last year and was the principal driver of FPL's net income growth. FPL's capital expenditures were approximately $1,400,000,000 in the 3rd quarter, and we expect our full year capital investments to total between $5,700,000,000 $6,100,000,000 Our reported ROE for regulatory purposes will be approximately 11 point 6% for the 12 months ending September 2019, which is at the upper end of the allowed band of 9.6 to 11.6% under our current rate agreement. During the quarter, we restored $308,000,000 of reserve amortization to achieve our target regulatory ROE, leaving FPL with a balance of $916,000,000 All of our major capital projects at FPL are progressing well. The 10 solar sites totaling nearly 7 50 megawatts of combined capacity that are currently being built across FTL service territory are all on track and on budget to begin providing cost effective energy to FPL customers early in 2020.

Earlier this month, FPL and a number of interveners reached a settlement agreement for FPL's proposed Solar Together program, which now incorporates a 10% allocation of the residential capacity to low income customers. We expect the Florida Public Service Commission to make a decision about the proposed program by the end of Q1 of next year. All of the solar projects we are currently constructing are part of FPL's groundbreaking 30 by 30 plan to install more than 30,000,000 solar panels by 2,030, which will result in roughly 10,000 megawatts of incremental solar capacity on FPL system in Florida. The solar deployment will also help FPL achieve a 2,030 CO2 emissions rate reduction target of 67% versus the 2,005 U. S.

Electric industry average. Beyond solar, construction on highly efficient, roughly 1200 Megawatt Dania Beach Clean Energy Center continues to advance towards its projected commercial operations date in 2022. While Florida was fortunate to avoid significant harm and damage from Hurricane Dorian, residents of the Palmas were severely impacted by the effects of this dangerous and deadly storm. Our deepest sympathies are with those who have been impacted by the storm's widespread destruction. As the storm approached the East Coast of the United States, Hurricane Dorian was forecast to make landfall within FPL's service territory as a major hurricane, which could have resulted in countless Floridians and an estimated 4,000,000 FPL customers suffering extensive damage.

In response to this threat and to ensure that we could quickly restore power to our customers should this devastating storm hit us, FPL followed its well developed plan to respond to such an event, including pre staging approximately 17,000 personnel. While FPL service territory was only hit by the strong outer bands of the storm, the hardening and automation investments that FPL has made since 2006 to build a stronger, smarter and more storm resilient energy grid helped FPL restore service to the approximately 160,000 customers who were impacted by Hurricane Dorian and to avoid additional outages. Although FPL has not completed the final accounting, our preliminary estimate of storm restoration costs, including prestaging of personnel, is approximately $274,000,000 Under the terms of FPL's current settlement agreement, beginning 60 days following the filing of a cost recovery petition with the Florida Public Service Commission and subject to a review and prudence determination of the final storm costs, FPL is authorized to recover storm restoration costs on an interim basis from customers through a surcharge. Earlier this month, the Florida Public Service Commission issued proposed rules in response to the new law that allows for clause recovery of storm hardening investments, including undergrounding.

This new law will allow FPL to pursue these investments in a programmatic basis over the course of decades, further strengthening FPL's storm resilient energy grid against future threats such as Hurricane Dorian. We expect that the final rules will be adopted next year. Let me now turn to Gulf Power, which is reporting Q3 2019 GAAP and adjusted earnings of $76,000,000 $80,000,000 respectively, or $0.16 per share. As a reminder, during the 1st 12 months following the closing of the Gulf Power acquisition, we intend to exclude onetime acquisition integration costs from adjusted earnings. Additionally, interest expense to finance the acquisition is reflected in corporate and other, and this expense offsets a significant portion of the Q3 Gulf Power adjusted earnings contribution.

Gulf Power's reported ROE for regulatory purposes will be approximately 9.8% for the 12 months ending September 2019. For the full year 2019, we continue to target a regulatory ROE in the upper half of the allowed band of 9.25% to 11.25%. During the quarter, Gulf Power's capital expenditures were roughly $225,000,000 We continue to expect Gulf Power's full year capital investments to total between $700,000,000 $800,000,000 and the execution of its overall capital program is advancing well. All of these major capital investments, including the North Florida resiliency connection and plant Crist coal to natural gas conversion continue to remain on track. The Florida economy remains strong.

Florida's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate was 3.2% in September, below the national average and the lowest level in the last decade. As an indicator of new construction, building permits remain at healthy levels. The most recent reading of the Case Shiller Index for South Florida shows home prices up 3.9% from the prior year. Overall, Florida's economy continues to grow with the latest readings of Florida's consumer confidence remaining strong. During the quarter, FPL's average number of customers increased by approximately 100,000 from the comparable prior year quarter, driven by continued solid underlying growth and the addition of Vero Beach's roughly 35,000 customers late last year.

FPL's 3rd quarter retail sales increased 0.1% year over year. Partially offsetting customer growth was a decline in overall usage per customer of 1.6% as favorable weather was more than offset by an estimated 3.9% decrease in weather normalized usage per customer, including a small decline in usage associated with Hurricane Dorian. As we previously noted, usage per customer tends to exhibit significant volatility from quarter to quarter, which can be more pronounced during periods of particularly warm weather conditions similar to those experienced during the Q3. For Gulf Power, number of customers was roughly flat to the comparable prior year quarter. We are beginning to see recovery accelerate in the areas of the service territory that were most impacted by Hurricane Michael last year.

Gulf Power's 3rd quarter retail sales increased 2.3% year over year, primarily due to favorable weather. Let me now turn to Energy Resources, which reported Q3 2019 GAAP earnings of 3 $67,000,000 or $0.75 per share and adjusted earnings of $424,000,000 or $0.87 per share. This is an increase in adjusted earnings per share of $0.14 or approximately 19% from last year's comparable quarter results. New investments contributed $0.22 per share, primarily reflecting continued growth in our contracted renewables program. The contracted the contribution from existing generation assets declined $0.01 per share relative to the prior year comparable quarter as the improvement in wind resource was more than offset by a number of headwinds, including a one time unfavorable state tax item.

After a weak period at the start of the year, Wind Resource improved during the Q3 and was 104% of the long term average versus 94% in the Q3 of 2018. Contributions from our gas infrastructure business, including existing pipelines, increased by $0.03 year over year. All other impacts reduced results by $0.10 per share, driven primarily by the write off of costs related to a development project. Additional details are shown on the accompanying slide. The Energy Resources development team continues to capitalize on what we believe is the best renewables development environment in our history, with our backlog increasing by approximately 13.75 Megawatts since our last earnings call.

Since the last call, we've added 7 47 Megawatts of Solar and 3 40 Megawatts of Battery Storage, all of which will be paired with the new solar projects. Year to date, more than 50% of the solar megawatts that we have added to the backlog include a battery storage component as customers are increasingly interested in a near firm, low cost renewable product that is specifically designed to meet their generation needs. As a result of increased MISO transmission upgrade and interconnection cost estimates that impacted approximately 1400 megawatts of industry projects, including some of our own. We have removed 3 39 megawatts from our wind backlog. Offsetting these reductions are 6 24 megawatts of new signed contracts since the Q2 call, resulting in a net increase of 2 85 megawatts to our wind backlog.

Additionally, as a result of other customers being impacted by these same interconnection cost issues, we have seen new contracting opportunities develop that we hope to capitalize on over the coming quarters. Through the 1st 3 quarters of 2019, we have added nearly 4,200 Megawatts to our Renewables backlog, which now totals more than 12,300 Megawatts. To put our new our current backlog into context, it is larger than Energy Resources operating renewables portfolio at the end of 2014, which took us more than 15 years to develop. Following the terrific year to date origination success, we have largely pivoted our development efforts to 2021 and beyond. With nearly 5,500 megawatts of projects already in our post-twenty 20 backlog, including more than 600 megawatts of wind for 2021 delivery.

At this early stage, we have made good progress towards our long term development expectations. We expect that overall wind demand in 2021 will be roughly the same levels as in 2019 and that solar demand will continue to increase through the early part of the next decade. We continue to believe that by leveraging Energy Resources' competitive advantages, we are well positioned to capture a meaningful share of these markets going forward. Beyond renewables, we continue to advance construction activities for Mountain Valley Pipeline and expect to be approximately 90% complete by the end of this year. We were pleased that the Supreme Court agreed to hear oral arguments on the Atlantic Coast Pipeline's case related to its Appalachian Trail Crossing authorization and are hopeful that the 4th Circuit Court's original decision will be overturned.

At this time, we do not expect a material impact on the construction schedule as a result of the FERC Stop Work order related to MVP's biological opinion and incidental take statement. Prior to the order, much of MVP's construction activities had scaled back as a result of a voluntary suspension and the upcoming winter season. We have been working with our project partners to resolve all of the outstanding permit issues for MVP, and we continue to make good progress with these efforts. We continue to target a full in service date for the pipeline during 2020 and now expect an overall project cost estimate of approximately $5,400,000,000 Consistent with our focus on leveraging Energy Resources' competitive advantages to identify and develop additional long term contracted projects, Today, we are pleased to announce that we have signed a proceeding agreement for the Lowman pipeline. The approximately 50 mile 16 inches intrastate pipeline would supply natural gas under a 40 year firm capacity agreement to Power South Energy Cooperative's roughly 700 Megawatt Low Lowman Energy Center in Southern Alabama.

We believe the project, which will support a coal to gas modernization, will help provide meaningful benefits to both Power South members through reduced energy costs and to the environment through reduced emissions. The project, which will be wholly owned by Energy Resources, is advancing through the development phase and has a targeted in service date in mid-twenty 22, subject to the receipt of regulatory approvals. Total capital investment for the pipeline is expected to be between $120,000,000 $130,000,000 We look forward to providing additional details as the project advances. Turning now to the consolidated results for NextEra Energy. For the Q3 of 2019, GAAP net income attributable to Energy was $879,000,000 or $1.81 per share.

NextEra Energy's 2019 Q3 adjusted earnings and adjusted EPS were $1,163,000,000 $2.39 per share, respectively. Adjusted earnings from the Corporate and Other segment declined $0.11 year over year, primarily as a result of the higher interest expense related to the Gulf Power acquisition financing. NextEra Energy has also generated a double digit percentage increase in year to date operating cash flow versus the comparable 2018 period. During the quarter, NextEra Energy issued $1,500,000,000 of equity units as we continue to focus on opportunistic and prudent capital management to maintain the strength of our balance sheet. The equity units will convert to common equity in 2022 and position us well for continued long term growth while providing additional cushion against our credit metrics.

The financial expectations, which we extended through 2022 earlier this year remain unchanged. For 2019, we would be disappointed if we do not realize adjusted EPS growth at the top end of our 6% to 8% growth rate off of the 2018 base of $7.70 per share, which if achieved would result in adjusted EPS of $8.32 While we are pleased with our year to date results, which have benefited from execution at Gulf Power tracking ahead of our plan, we currently expect headwinds in the 4th quarter adjusted EPS due to a number of factors. As we discussed on our Q2 earnings call, we plan to pursue a number of refinancing activities to take advantage of the low interest rate environment and expect to incur financing breakage impacts associated with several wind repowerings well as Energy Resources' share of the costs associated with the acquisition of the outstanding Genesis debt. These initiatives could generate negative adjusted EPS impacts of as much as $0.10 to $0.15 in the 4th quarter before translating to favorable net income contributions in future years and an overall improvement in net present value for our shareholders. Looking further ahead, we continue to expect NextEra Energy's adjusted EPS compound annual growth rate to be in a range of 6% to 8% through 2021 off of our 2018 adjusted EPS of $7.70 plus the accretion of $0.15 $0.20 in 2020 2021, respectively, from the Florida acquisitions.

For 2022, we expect to grow adjusted EPS in the range of 6% to 8% off of a 2021 adjusted EPS, translating to a range of $10 to $10.75 per share. Based upon the clear visibility into meaningful growth prospects across all of our businesses, we would be disappointed if we are not able to deliver growth at or near the top end of our adjusted EPS range in 2022. From 2018 to 2022, we expect that operating cash flow will grow roughly in line with our adjusted EPS compound annual growth rate range. We also continue to expect to grow our dividends per share 12% to 14% per year through at least 2020 off of the 2017 base of dividends per share of $3.93 As always, our expectations are subject to the usual caveats, including but not limited to normal weather and operating conditions. In summary, NextEra Energy continues to execute on its strong start to 2019 and remains well positioned to meet its 2019 expectations and long term growth prospects.

At SPL, we remain focused on operational cost effectiveness, productivity and making smart long term investments to further improve the quality, reliability and efficiency of everything we do. At Gulf Power, we continue to execute the NextEra Energy playbook to create long term customer and shareholder value. At Energy Resources, we maintain significant competitive advantages to capitalize on the continued strong market for renewables development. We remain intensely focused on execution and believe NextEra Energy remains well positioned to drive shareholder value over the coming years. Let me now turn to NextEra Energy Partners, which delivered strong third quarter results with year over year growth in adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution of approximately 55% and 81%, respectively.

Excluding all contributions from the Desert Sunlight Projects, cash available for distribution increased approximately 54% from versus the prior year comparable quarter. Yesterday, the NextEra Energy Partners Board declared a quarterly distribution of $0.5175 per common unit or $2.07 per common unit on an annualized basis, continuing our track record of growing distributions at the top end of our 12 percent to 15% per year growth range. At the end of the quarter, NextEra Energy Partners announced an agreement to acquire Mead Pipeline Company, which owns an approximately 40% interest in Central Penn Line, an intrastate natural gas pipeline in Pennsylvania that is backed by a minimum 14 year contract with a high credit quality customer and no volumetric risk. The fixed payment structure of Mead's lease further diversifies the NextEra Energy Partners portfolio, while helping mitigate any potential wind and solar resource variability. Following the attractive acquisition financing, the transaction is expected to yield a double digit return to NextEra Energy Partners LP unitholders and generate a CAFD yield of roughly 14%.

Additionally, executing on 3rd party acquisition helps extend NextEra Energy Partners' already best in class runway for LP distribution growth. We believe this acquisition is consistent with NextEra Energy Partners' focus on investing in long term contracted clean energy assets with strong creditworthy counterparties and that natural gas will play an important role in the country's clean energy future. That said, there are very few pipelines that fit NextEra Energy Partners' investment criteria of being long term contracted with creditworthy counterparties. Following the Mead acquisition, NextEra Energy Partners expects the natural gas pipelines will contribute approximately 30% of year end 2019 run rate cash available for distribution. With roughly 12,000 megawatts of operating long term contracted wind and solar projects and the ongoing origination success at Energy Resources, combined with the continued strength of the best renewables development environment in our history, we expect contribution percentage from pipelines to decline over time.

We continue to believe that NextEra Energy Partners remains uniquely well positioned to capitalize on the ongoing disruption in the nation's power generation fleet over the coming years. The Mead investment is expected to be financed with a combination of partially amortizing project finance debt and a new convertible equity portfolio financing as well as existing NextEra Energy Partners debt capacity. Beyond the need financing, during the quarter, NextEra Energy Partners took additional steps further enhance its financing flexibility, which I will discuss in more detail later in the call. As a result of the expected acquisition and financing initiatives, last month, NextEra Energy Partners introduced new year end 2019 run rate cash available for distribution expectations, assuming full contributions from PG and E related projects, which at the midpoint represent approximately 60% growth from the comparable year end 2018 run rate midpoint. With this strong year over year growth and cash available for distribution, NextEra Energy Partners expects to be able to achieve its long term distribution growth expectations without the need for additional asset acquisitions until 2021.

Overall, we are pleased with the year to date execution at NextEra Energy Partners and believe we are well positioned to continue delivering LP unit value going forward. Now let's look at the detailed results. 3rd quarter adjusted EBITDA was $315,000,000 and cash available for distribution, including full contributions from our Desert Sunlight projects, was $147,000,000 up approximately 55% and 81% from the prior year comparable quarter, respectively, primarily due to portfolio growth. New projects added $104,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA $59,000,000 of cash available for distribution. Existing projects also contributed favorably to significant year over year growth in adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution.

As wind resource was favorable at 107% of the long term average versus 94% in the Q3 of 2018. Cash available for distribution from existing projects also benefited from a reduction in debt service payments as a result of the purchase of the outstanding Genesis holding company notes and the recapitalization of a portfolio of NextEnergies Partners renewable assets earlier this year. As a reminder, these results include the impact of IDR fees, which we treat as an operating expense. For 2019, we previously reported cash available for distribution, including full contributions from our PG and E related projects as we were working on resolving the ongoing financing issues related to the bankruptcy. After finalizing our plans to release the restricted cash at our Genesis project, which I'll discuss in more detail in a moment, we believe it is unlikely that we will pursue remedies that would result in the release of the trapped cash at the Desert Sunlight 250 and 300 projects prior to PG and E's exit from bankruptcy.

Going forward, we will report cash available for distribution, excluding any contribution from Desert Sunlight Projects until the events of default have been resolved. For the Q3, cash available for distribution, excluding all contributions from Desert Sunlight Projects, was $125,000,000 an increase of approximately 54% year over year. Year to date, the Desert Sunlight Projects have generated $45,000,000 of cash available for distribution. Starting in early 2020, restricted cash will begin to be swept to pay down the outstanding principal balance unless this provision is waived by the project's lenders. Let me now turn to NextEra Energy Partners' recent financing initiatives.

The Mead acquisition is expected to be financed with a total of $920,000,000 of partially amortizing project finance debt and a roughly $170,000,000 convertible equity portfolio financing, both of which we have firm commitments for as well as the existing NextEnergie Partners debt capacity. By leveraging the strong demand for high quality energy infrastructure assets in both the public and private capital markets, NextEra Energy Partners was able to secure attractive financing for the acquisition that enhances returns for LP unitholders by limiting downside risk. During September, NextEra Energy Partners launched a tender offer to purchase 100% of the outstanding operating company notes at our Genesis project. Our current expectation is that by the end of this year, we will have acquired all of the outstanding Genesis debt, resulting in an increase in run rate cash available for distribution from the project to approximately $100,000,000 through the removal of project level debt service. Following the expected purchase of the remaining Genesis debt, NextEra Energy Partners expects to receive the approximately $59,000,000 of distributions that have been restricted at the project as of the end of Q3, plus approximately $50,000,000 that would have been restricted by year end.

To fund the purchase of the Genesis debt, in September, Exeter Energy Partners issued $500,000,000 of 7 year senior unsecured notes at an attractive yield of 3.875%. The transaction priced at historic lows, including the lowest spread for a non investment grade issuer in the power space for that tenor and the 2nd lowest coupon across all industries for that tenor, reflecting NextEnergies Partners' strong credit profile. Let me now turn to NextEnergies Partners' expectations. As we announced last month, following the completion of the Mead acquisition, our expectations for year end 2019 run rate cash available for distribution, including full contributions from the PG and E related projects, increased to a range of $560,000,000 to $640,000,000 reflecting calendar year 2020 expectations for the forecasted portfolio at the end of 2019. We remain confident that our existing contracts with PG and E will be ultimately upheld in PG and E's bankruptcy process and note that both PG and E's and the creditors plans of reorganization propose that all renewable PPAs are assumed by PG and E post bankruptcy.

Excluding all contributions from the Desert Sunlight Projects, NextEra Energy Partners expects a year end 2019 run rate for cash available for distribution in the range of $505,000,000 to $585,000,000 Year end 2019 run rate adjusted EBITDA expectations, which assume full contributions from PG and E related projects as revenue is expected to continue to be recognized, increased to $1,225,000,000 to $1,400,000,000 following the completion of the Mead acquisition. We also introduced December 31, 2020 run rate expectations for adjusted EBITDA and cash available for distribution that are the same as the year end 2019 run rate expectations. The midpoint of the new cash available for distribution range represents a 2 year compound annual growth rate range of more than 25% from the comparable year end 2018 run rate midpoint, assuming full contributions from the Desert Sunlight projects, supporting our long term distribution growth expectations without the need for additional asset acquisitions until 2021. As a reminder, all of our expectations are subject to our normal caveats and include the impact of anticipated IDR fees as we treat this as an operating expense. From a base of NextEra Energy Partners' 4th quarter 2018 distribution per common unit at an annualized rate of $1.86 per common unit, we continue to see 12% to 15% per year growth in LP distributions as being a reasonable range of expectations through at least 2024 subject to our caveats.

For 2020, we expect to achieve these distribution growth objectives while maintaining a payout ratio in the mid-seventy percent range. We are pleased with the progress NextEra Energy Partners has made in 2019 against its strategic and growth initiatives. As we have previously highlighted, NextEra Energy Partners has the flexibility to grow in 3 ways: organically, acquiring assets from 3rd parties or acquiring assets from Energy Resources portfolio. By executing on the Mead acquisition, NextEnergies Partners has further enhanced its already best in class long term visibility into growth through reduced near term acquisition needs from Energy Resources. Without a need to sell common equity until 2021 at the earliest other than modest at the market issuances, together with an attractive underlying asset portfolio, favorable tax position and enhanced governance rights, NextEra Energy Partners is well positioned to deliver long term LP unitholder value.

In summary, we continue to believe that both NextEra Energy and NextEra Energy Partners have some of the best opportunity sets and execution track records in the industry, and we remain as enthusiastic as ever about our future prospects. That concludes our prepared remarks. And with that, we will open up the line for any questions.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 1

We will now begin the question and answer session. Today's first question comes from Greg Gordon of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning. Hey. Good morning. Good morning. Congrats on a great quarter.

So, couple of questions. You did put out a press release recently talking about this potential for $25,000,000,000 to $35,000,000,000 of necessary spending to get the full underground grounding program completed. Can we talk can you talk about when that might go from sort of theoretical to actually being laid out and executed and over what timeframe you might be looking to execute that for the benefit of your customers?

Speaker 3

Sure. Greg, some of this stems from well, a couple of things. One is, as you know, we've had a long program now over many years at Florida Power and Light to invest in storm hardening and resilience across the FPL grid infrastructure. This past legislative session, the Florida State Legislature passed a new law called Storm Secure that authorizes further investments, including in undergrounding our electrical infrastructure, which all of the utilities in Florida will be able to file plans with the Public Service Commission and start to make those investments and recover on those investments through a clause mechanism. What we said about it both at the investor conference, which at that time the law had not been signed by the governor, and then in subsequent investor materials.

This represents a multi decade opportunity and tens of 1,000,000,000 of dollars of potential investment into our grid infrastructure. It's going through the process now. The next steps include the Public Service Commission finalizing a rule and having that fully discussed through that process. And then FPL and Gulf Power would start to file their plans and make those investments and start to recover through the clause.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Two more questions. 1, with regard to NEP, obviously, the prospects for that business look great. But how do you address the perspective that even though these gas infrastructure investments you're making make a lot of economic sense, provide good value to the customers that they're serving that it might on the margin be diluting the sort of the clean energy or sort of ESG related aspects of the profile of NEP, even though they do to your point that you made, bring some benefits in terms of diversification?

Speaker 3

Yes. Greg, we tried to cover some of this in the prepared remarks. We've long believed that what is really valuable from an NEP unitholder perspective is our investing in long term contracted clean energy assets with creditworthy counterparties. And we believe that gas infrastructure specifically pipelines to the extent that they meet those criteria could be a great fit for NEP. And of course, as you know, we executed on an acquisition of some pipeline several years back, and that's added tremendous value to unitholders.

This was a unique opportunity. We think the returns are particularly attractive, particularly when you couple that with the financing that we were able to execute. And as I commented on the prepared remarks, assuming that we are able to close the acquisition, the CAFD related to, all of the pipelines would be roughly 30% of the overall portfolio. And as we look forward and particularly focusing on NextEra Energy Resources portfolio is an obvious source of potential acquisition targets for NextEra Energy Partners. We have a significant amount of long term contracted renewables that could and likely will be sold into NextEnergy Partners over time.

So that percentage of 30%, assuming the close of the acquisition will likely go down over time, meat pipeline.

Speaker 4

Great. My last question is, the delta between the GAAP earnings and the operating earnings is pretty significant this year, more significant than it has been in some prior years. And I understand a lot of that is due to the transition some transitions related to the business. But can you just take us through as we move through time, do you expect the difference between GAAP and operating results to tighten again as we move into '20 and beyond? Or

Speaker 5

are there going

Speaker 4

to be continued structural reasons why we should expect natural gas related or gas infrastructure related or interest rate related adjustments to continue?

Speaker 3

Yes. So, Greg, of course, there's a couple of things that are excluded from our adjusted earnings that flow through GAAP. As you highlighted, some of the hedges that we enter into for both our power portfolio as well as our gas infrastructure portfolio, the marks related to those investments, we'll flow through that. But the bigger driver this year has really been about interest rates. And interest rate complex going down has contributed to significant amount of mark that we exclude from adjusted earnings purposes.

So that will fluctuate over time. We think that the hedging activities that we enter into, whether it's hedging our gas and power exposure or interest exposure, makes sense, both for NextEra Energy and NextEra Energy Partners to ensure that we have the ability to have low cost and continued access to the capital markets over a long period of time.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you. Have a great morning.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Greg.

Speaker 1

And our next question today comes from Steve Fleishman of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Yes. Hi. Good morning. Just wanted to clarify, I think, Rebecca, you said that the you think that and the wind business that 2021 could be as good a year as 2020. Did you is that correct?

No, no.

Speaker 3

As 2019. Okay. Coming to the year to 2019. No, 2020 should be a very strong year as our customers are working to take advantage of the last year of 100% PTC. But we do think it will be more likely than not comparable to 2019.

Speaker 6

Got it. All right. That makes more sense. And then on the just could you maybe talk a little bit more about what the MISO issue was that kind of affected these 1400 megawatts of varying projects? And just maybe a little more color on the opportunities that you see maybe of gaining some market share there?

Speaker 3

Sure. Both MISO and SPP have had a significant amount of queue requests be put into their queues over the last couple of years. I think as both developers and those that might buy renewables put in requests ahead of the tax credits starting to phase down. And so they faced some tough modeling issues both for MISO and for SPP that resulted in what we think are some unusual outcomes and high costs for interconnection requests, which opportunities for us. So for some of those projects, there had some obvious customers that wanted to buy some wind and solar projects, which will create opportunities for energy resources to help fill that supply.

It also creates the opportunity or incentive for us to optimize our existing queue positions and interconnection rights to maximize all the generation that could be filled for those interconnection requests. So certainly a speed bump with respect to some of the things in our backlog, but in context of now the substantial backlog that we have really is no more than a minor blip, but we wanted to comment on it given the movement in the backlog.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And our next question today comes from Stephen Byrd of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning.

Speaker 3

Good morning.

Speaker 7

I wanted to focus on Mountain Valley and just first cover just the process next steps, both from a legal perspective as well as with FERC. Would you mind just kind of talking through what we should be thinking about from a process point of view from here?

Speaker 3

Sure. One of the two things that are particularly notable. One is the Supreme Court has decided to take this up as you well know and we'll hear this in the 1st part of 2020, and ultimately render its decision by June of 2020. So then we'll understand whether or not the 4th Circuit's decision in ACP's case, which obviously sets the precedent also for Mountain Valley Pipeline's crossing of the Appalachian Trail. The second aspect is finishing up the permitting for Mountain Valley Pipeline.

The new biological opinion is expected to be issued in the early part of 2020. That obviously would address the current stop work order and set forward the process of finalizing the remaining permitting other than the Appalachian Trail crossing. So as I've commented in the script, we continue to believe that more likely than not, the pipeline will be put into service in 2020. And again, higher costs than we originally had anticipated, but approximately now $5,400,000,000 across all of the partners.

Speaker 7

Understood. And how much capital has NextEra invested

Speaker 8

overall?

Speaker 3

So we've invested a little bit over $1,000,000,000 year to date and that's just our portion of it as opposed to the whole project overall. And what was the second part of the question, Stephen?

Speaker 4

If the project were to be canceled,

Speaker 7

what would the financing implications be for NxThera?

Speaker 3

We've got a pretty sizable balance sheet at this point, Steve. So not significant implications for us. It certainly would be disappointing from a development standpoint not to be able to complete it. And I think at this point, that's much less likely than the alternative, which is we expect to bring it into service.

Speaker 9

Understood. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Speaker 1

And our next question today comes from Julien Dumoulin Smith of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hi, good morning. This is actually Richie Ciccarelli here for Julien.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 10

Good morning. I was just wondering if you can comment on your regulated strategy for the rate case filing. Have you made any decisions around consolidating FPL and Gulf? And could that potentially provide additional accretion if you consolidate the capital structures there?

Speaker 3

So Richie, we did make comments at our June Investor Conference that we were at the early stages of evaluating a merger and ultimately a joint rate case filing between FPL and Gulf. And I'd argue at this point, we're probably still in the early stages. As we highlighted then and continue to highlight, our best information at this stage, which could change, but our best information at this stage is that we would file in 2021 for new rates in 2022, and that was both for FPL and Gulf. As we get closer to that period of time, we certainly might update that if things change or be able to give you more information, but we're still at the preliminary stages of that.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thanks. That's helpful. And then can you just comment on the JEA process and I guess expectations for how long that will take to, I guess complete?

Speaker 3

So Richie, as we've commented a couple of times, we're certainly interested in doing more regulated M and A, and the processes that are very public, both at Santee Cooper and JEA, we've indicated our interest. Both at Santee Cooper and JEA, we've indicated our interest.

Speaker 10

But this point, out of respect for both processes that are,

Speaker 3

entering more advanced stages. We're limited on what comments we may make on it. But I'd fall back to the fact that we've continued to be interested. And of course, as you well know, JEA released its list of folks that made it to the next round, and of course, we were on there.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thanks a lot. Thank

Speaker 3

you.

Speaker 1

And our next question today comes from Char Peraza of Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning guys. Good morning.

Speaker 11

Just a quick follow-up on the 2021 GRC filings. You guys sort of formulate your thoughts and get the process together. Rebecca, can you just highlight maybe some of the arguments you'll present as far as the benefits to FPL customers to have a Merge utility? Obviously, the benefits for Golf is stated and it's but just sort of as you guys think about as a merged entity where you see the benefits flowing to FPL customers?

Speaker 3

Sure. I think it's I appreciate the interest in it. I think at this stage to talk specifically about any sort of rate case strategy would be a little bit premature. But you should expect that a lot of what we might talk about would be consistent with what we always talk about with you guys, which is we really do focus on capital investments that make sense for our customers, that improve the reliability, remove costs from the system, improve our emissions profile over the long term, to make sure that what we provide to our customers is really valuable to them. And we continue to focus on that and be very diligent in those efforts throughout a long period of time in terms of our history with FPL.

And as we've laid out in great detail at our investor conference, the investment program that we have at Gulf Power over the next couple of years investing roughly $3,000,000,000 of capital to have the cost of O and M, substantially improve reliability, substantially improve the emissions profile and substantially improve the safety profile, are certain things that we're proud of and we think are really the right things to focus on from a customer standpoint and ultimately from a regulatory standpoint.

Speaker 11

Got it. Okay. And then just Rebecca, one last topic here is just on the retail choice. I mean, obviously, the Supreme Court has started their review. Maybe just a little bit of an updated thoughts on when you expect the timing from the Supreme Court and just the arguments around single issue and items being unambiguous?

And then as far as maybe just a quick update on the votes and as we hit the February deadline?

Speaker 3

Yes. So you're absolutely right. There are 2 just like the last quarter conference call, there were 2 things that need to happen before the initiative could be put on the ballot. One, the Supreme Court is doing its diligence, which as you rightfully highlighted, it's not an evaluation of the merits of the proposal. It is simply whether or not, in my words, not necessarily the legal words, but in my words, that it's single subject and is unambiguous and can be easily understood by the average voter.

The hearings were a number of weeks ago and the Supreme Court could render its decision at any time. There's not a specific statutory timeframe for them to render their decision. We think in the hearing that issues were brought up and effectively argued that both it is ambiguous and is not single subject. So we're optimistic that the Supreme Court might render a decision that would be favorable to us. But of course, that remains to be seen and we'll hopefully know soon.

On the votes, they're roughly 500,000 ish, 460,000 I rounded up relative to the 760 something 1,000 votes or signatures that they need to gather before February 1. The practical deadline really is the very beginning of January because there's some time frame for the state to evaluate and validate these signatures. It is not insurmountable, but they would need to significantly increase their rate of signature gathering in order to get what they need in order to get on the 2020 ballot.

Speaker 11

Got it. And then just you don't envision a scenario where the Supreme Court renders a decision post the February ballot deadline?

Speaker 3

We certainly it seems unlikely, but we don't know. Based on precedent, it seems that it'd be more likely not in the next couple of months, but we don't know.

Speaker 11

Got it. Thanks guys. Congrats on the quarter.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And our next question comes from Michael Lapides of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hey, Rebecca. I'm looking back at the Investor Day deck and the capital spend trajectory for FP and L is about $5,600,000,000 to $6,200,000,000 each year through 2022. That implies kind of if you continue to earn near the high end of the band that kind of the law of big numbers starts to kick in and the growth rate of FP and L would actually start to slow down. What are things that could keep what are things that are not in that $5,600,000,000 to $6,200,000,000 CapEx budget that could make that a higher rate base growth trajectory?

Speaker 3

So we obviously laid out the plans for this period of time through 2020. So I'm assuming that you're asking for kind of a post-twenty 20 view. And some of the things that we highlighted in the investor conference, which still remain very much true today, and we even talked about one of them at the very part at the beginning of the Q and A, 2 major capital programs that will last well beyond the 2022 expectations period. First is storm secure or continuing to harden the infrastructure that of course now is even further authorized through the clause mechanism and has a path for recovery of those investments near the time of having made those investments. And then second is a continued build out of solar in FPLs and Gulf service territory.

The 30 by 30 program by 2,030 is about 10 gigawatts of capacity. If we execute on that exactly to that plan, it's roughly 20% of FPL's generation will come from solar generation in 2,030, which obviously leaves a lot of opportunity for further expansion of solar beyond that timeframe. Got it. And then there's normal investments in the infrastructure.

Speaker 9

But is most of that for the post 'twenty two time frame? So if I think about the 2020 to 2022 time frame, there's not a lot that's going to move that $5,700,000,000 to $6,200,000,000 number around?

Speaker 3

So we have our expectations. They were the best information that we had at the time and continue to have. Obviously, we reserve the rights to change that investment plan over time, but we think it is a terrific plan that we're excited about and it really focuses on developing the customer value that we think is so important.

Speaker 9

Got it. Thanks. Much appreciated.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Michael.

Speaker 1

And our next question comes from Michael Weinstein of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, guys. Good morning. A couple of questions. Hi, good morning. A couple of questions about renewables.

Have you heard anything about possible extension of Section 201 solar import tariffs? And then separately from that, at a recent wind conference, a lot of the developers there were talking about 0% returns through contracted life on wind projects. And I'm just wondering, I mean, you guys are usually in better shape than other people. And I'm wondering what kind of returns you guys are seeing for wind?

Speaker 3

Okay. I'll start with the second question first. Our returns are not anywhere near that stated report. We continue to be disciplined in our investment plans. In Energy Resources, our returns have remained roughly consistent over a long period of time on a levered basis.

And we continue to strongly believe that they're creating value for our shareholders relative to our cost of capital. We can't speak to what other people are investing in. What we do know is that we have significant competitive advantages across this business. Certainly, our experience in it is extremely important. It is not only that we have a significant amount of scale, we're investing a substantial amount of capital.

We've got great relationships with our suppliers where we're a meaningful customer of theirs. And of course, we've had continued significant investments in digital technologies to keep getting better at this business every year. So we love the business. We think it's a terrific growth opportunity for us. And as you look out over the next couple of years, you'll continue to see the returns from Energy Resources along the lines of what John continue to be very attractive.

On the tariffs, this changes minute by minute and day by day. So what our supply chain team continues to focus on is working very closely with our suppliers. Obviously, that story might be a little different between wind and solar, but they have obviously anticipated the uncertainty that could be in the market in the coming years. We've positioned ourselves appropriately, so that we can continue executing our development program at attractive returns.

Speaker 5

All right, great. Thanks very much.

Speaker 1

And our next question today comes from Pavel Molchanov of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Thanks for taking the question. On the power storage front, you've talked about the kind of the mainstreaming of storage deployments. I'm curious if in your business development efforts, you found any storage technologies other than lithium ion that you think are worth commercializing and scaling up in a serious way?

Speaker 3

We continue just like we have been with the gas business before, then the wind business, then the solar business, we always remain technology agnostic. And whatever becomes commercialized that we can deploy at scale with high confidence in the long term total cost of ownership, we would certainly be open to it. That said, what we continue to see and what we are currently signing contracts with our customers is predominantly lithium ion. But there is a lot of venture capital and a lot of private equity for further stage investments being invested in this space to see if we can find something even better than lithium ion. But with the electric vehicle sector really focusing on lithium ion, Those that are producing lithium ion batteries are investing in the manufacturing scale, which is producing significant cost improvements and some technology improvements that's making it very compelling.

So as you look out in our materials and you look at what we think is likely to happen in the middle part of the next decade, you're talking about a $5 to $7 a megawatt hour adder to get to a nearly firm wind or solar resource. That's a pretty attractive price. So in order to beat that, you'd have to see a pretty big step change in where some of these other technologies are to truly be competitive.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then kind of a corollary to that, maybe on the flip side of the value chain. EV charging, any update on the role that you guys are playing in that Florida build out, the state overall still lags behind a lot of the other coastal states in its EV infrastructure. So curious what you guys are doing to resolve that?

Speaker 3

It has been a focus in Tallahassee at the state government level to really think about it and think about what part different companies and organizations might play in it. And we certainly have worked on a couple of pilot opportunities to think about how that infrastructure can be built out. There may be more to do at some point, but we're still evaluating whether or not that's an opportunity within the regulated utilities or potentially on the competitive side.

Speaker 4

Okay. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's question and answer session and today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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