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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Feb 12, 2019

Operator

Good morning. My name is Jody, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Newmark Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then number one on your telephone keypad. If you'd like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. Thank you. I'll now turn the call over to Jason McGruder, Head of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin when ready.

Jason McGruder
Head of Investor Relations, Newmark Group

Good morning. We issue our fourth quarter and full year 2018 financial results press release and a presentation summarizing these results this morning. You can find these documents at ir.ngkf.com. Unless otherwise stated, the results for today's call compare only the fourth quarter and/or full year of 2018 with the year earlier period. We'll be referring to our results on this call only on an adjusted earnings basis unless otherwise stated. We may also refer to adjusted EBITDA. Please see today's press release for results under generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP. Please see the sections in the back of today's press release for the complete definitions of any such non-GAAP terms, reconciliation of these items to the corresponding GAAP results, and how, when, and why management uses them.

I also remind you that the information on this call regarding our business that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties. Except as required by law, Newmark undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. For a discussion of additional risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ from those contained in forward-looking statements, see Newmark's SEC filings, including, but not limited to, risk factors set forth in our most recent Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, or Form 8-K filings. I now am happy to turn the call over to our host, Howard Lutnick, Chairman of Newmark Group Inc.

Howard Lutnick
Chairman, Newmark Group

Thank you, Jason. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Newmark's fourth quarter 2018 conference call. With me today are Newmark's CEO, Barry Gosin, and our Chief Financial Officer, Mike Rispoli. Newmark had a record quarter, generating 37% revenue growth, 50% improvement in post-tax earnings per share, and 71% improvement in adjusted EBITDA. I am pleased to report that the company's board of directors declared a qualified dividend for the fourth quarter of $0.09 per common share. In addition, at the end of November, we successfully completed our spin-off from BGC Partners, simplifying Newmark's corporate structure. With that, I'm happy to turn the call over to Barry.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

Thanks, Howard. Good morning, everyone. Our strong performance in the fourth quarter capped a year of exceptional growth as we generated strong double-digit increases in revenues, pre-tax earnings, and adjusted EBITDA in 2018. Newmark continued to significantly outpace the industry and capture market share, driven by robust quarterly results across virtually all of our business lines and by a 20% year-over-year quarterly improvement in revenue per producer. Nearly 90% of our top-line growth for the quarter was organic as we continue to attract leading professionals across all of our business lines. Some of the key areas in which we have recently invested include senior housing capital markets, hotel investment sales and financing, industrial services, retail leasing, multifamily debt origination, and valuation and advisory. In addition, our recent acquisitions include RKF, a leading retail leasing platform, and Jackson Cooksey, a Texas-based tenant representation firm.

We also continue to invest in our industry-leading technology for use by both our clients and our professionals. In terms of our overall market view, U.S. office and industrial market conditions held steady during the fourth quarter as absorption strengthened, vacancy rates continued to improve, moving rental rates modestly higher in many markets. Multifamily volumes remain strong as this property type has attracted the highest sales volume for the past seven quarters, now surpassing office sales volumes. Industry-wide, U.S. multifamily investment sales recorded a record of $173 billion in 2018. We estimate U.S. investment sales and industry-wide originations were up approximately 7%. Newmark's 23% increase in full year volumes across investment sales, mortgage brokerage, and origination therefore compares very favorably to the overall market. Industry-wide leasing activity remained strong in many markets in 2018.

For 2019, Newmark research expects the overall commercial leasing and investment sales to be flat to slightly higher. The MBA expects overall originations to be up 2% in 2019. We expect to outperform these metrics. I'm very proud of our outstanding accomplishments this year, led by Newmark's partners and employees who embrace a strong culture of collaboration and data-driven technology. We are well positioned to continue our momentum, driving profitable growth, strong returns on investment, and significant value for our shareholders and clients. With that, I'm happy to turn the call over to Mike.

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Thank you, Barry, good morning, everybody. In the fourth quarter, Newmark generated revenues of $631.7 million, an increase of 37.2%. Our compensation expenses increased 21.6% to $343.1 million and improved by approximately 700 basis points to 54.3% of revenues.

Non-compensation expenses increased 41.4% to $130.1 million. As a percentage of revenues, non-compensation expenses were unchanged at approximately 20%, despite the additional $22.4 million of pass-through expense related to ASC 606. More than 70% of our annual expenses are variable in nature and directly tied to revenue. Turning to our quarterly earnings. Our adjusted EBITDA improved by 71.4% to $169.2 million. Our pre-tax adjusted earnings for the quarter were up by 74.3% to $148.5 million. Our tax rate for adjusted earnings was 18% for the quarter and 15% for the year versus 18% for full year 2017. While our full-year tax rate declined due to lower U.S. corporate tax rates, it was higher than our previous outlook, largely due to our fourth quarter earnings outperformance. Our post-tax earnings increased 75.2% to $121.3 million. Our post-tax earnings per share increased 50% to $0.45.

Newmark's fully diluted weighted average share count for the quarter was $267.6 million. The year earlier weighted average share count was $233.4 million. Newmark's fully diluted weighted average share count increased mainly due to the first quarter 2018 sale to BGC of approximately 16.6 million exchangeable limited partnership units of Newmark for $242 million. Additionally, our share count rose due to equity-based compensation, front office hires, and acquisitions. We expect to take a number of steps to reduce share issuance. These include a greater percentage of cash for acquisitions, employee compensation, and new hires. We expect our weighted average fully diluted share count to grow by between 5% and 7% year-over-year in 2019. In comparison, Newmark's weighted average fully diluted share count increased by 7% in 2018, excluding the units sold to BGC last year.

Our share issuance outlook for 2019 assumes no material acquisitions, buybacks, or meaningful changes to the company's stock price. Moving on to the balance sheet. Including cash and cash equivalents in marketable securities, Newmark's total liquidity was $171.4 million. Our unsecured long-term debt was $537.9 million. Therefore, our net debt was $366.5 million. Total equity was $1,083 million. During the quarter, we issued $550 million of senior unsecured notes due in 2023. To meet tax-free spinoff requirements, the proceeds from this issuance were used to pay down preexisting debt owed to or guaranteed by BGC. We also entered into a $250 million revolving credit facility, improving our financial flexibility. As a result of our greatly strengthened balance sheet, the company's net debt to adjusted EBITDA has improved to 0.7 times as of year-end 2018 versus 2.6 times in the prior year.

Our balance sheet does not yet reflect the approximately $430 million of additional Nasdaq payments expected from 2023 through 2027 because the shares are contingent upon Nasdaq generating at least $25 million in gross revenues on an annual basis. Nasdaq generated gross revenues of approximately $4.3 billion in 2018. Given the strength of our on and off-balance sheet assets, our $250 million credit facility, strong cash flow generation from the business, and low leverage, we believe that we are well-positioned to invest for growth. As a reminder, we will simplify our definitions of adjusted earnings and adjusted EBITDA beginning with the first quarter of 2019. Please see the sections of today's press release titled "Simplifying Non-GAAP Reporting Beginning in 2019" for additional details. With that, I'm happy to turn the call back over to Ben.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

Thank you, Mike. Our full-year outlook for 2019 is as follows. We expect to generate revenues in the range of $2.2 billion-$2.3 billion. We anticipate our 2018 tax rate for adjusted earnings to be in the range of 14%-16%. We expect our weighted average fully diluted share count to grow 5%-7%. We expect our earnings per share to be in the range of $1.55 and $1.65. We estimate our adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $575 million and $610 million. Our outlook assumes no material acquisitions, investments, or share repurchases. Operator, we'd like to open the call for questions.

Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of David Ridley-Lane of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

David Ridley-Lane
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Good morning. Curious to get your thoughts on the capture rate that you're getting inside of mortgage debt brokerage from your multifamily investment sales. I know the goal is to get to 35%-40% over time. Where did you finish in 2018? What's kind of a reasonable pace of improvement for 2019?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

Well, the last quarter, we were actually 32%. For the year, we were closer to 19%.

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

23% for the year.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

23%, sorry. We continue to embed the debt originators with the investment sales multifamily brokers, the capture rate rises. Recently in the last quarter, we had a portfolio in one of our markets, about a billion and a half dollars of three separate properties, and our capture rate was 100%. The opportunity to be nearby the acceptance of the industry towards using the same broker to provide the debt as a service and a benefit to the client is growing. We think that will continue to improve.

David Ridley-Lane
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

As a quick follow-up, could you talk about any puts and takes to 2019 margins that you would be calling out for next year?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

When you think about our margin, we continue to lower our comp and non-comp expenses as a percentage of revenue as we move forward. As we continue to grow our revenue, we expect those margins to stay in the 20% adjusted earnings on margin, 20% range and above. We do have the Nasdaq, which will come down year-over-year in our adjusted earnings because we bought the puts, and the value of those puts will come out of the earnings next year.

David Ridley-Lane
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jade Rahmani of KBW. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Thanks very much. Touching on the market in terms of transaction volumes, can you comment on whether you saw any volatility in December and perhaps January relative to typical seasonality or your expectations?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

Obviously, we had a good quarter, and we continue to be optimistic about sales and market share. There's an enormous amount of capital available to invest. Some things are pricey, but we're feeling pretty good about the market.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

In terms of bid lists on transactions, have you seen any changes of note, any concentrations, perhaps at the lower end of pricing or any other indicators?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

As I said in previous calls, there are less bidders on any. Depends on what the product is. If it's industrial, multi, better. On core properties, you may see less bidders on core investments, but the pricing is still holding up, and that at the end of the music, there's somebody there to pay the proper price for the assets.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

In terms of leasing trends, how much of the organic growth you're experiencing is driven by co-working and perhaps the tech sector more broadly?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

Is there any numbers, Mike?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Yeah, we saw a lot of activity in the co-working space and in the tech sector, both on the East Coast and the West Coast, and we do continue to see that trend going into 2019. They continue to take a lot of space in a lot of the major markets around the U.S.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

The place that it's most affecting in the market, many building owners used to build pre-builds or to capture the smaller tenants, which was work. I think that the pre-build market is most impacted by that, and the co-working, flex working environment takes up a lot of that space. The ability to have variable space for large corporates is something that is having an impact on the market. It's a market that's here today and continues to grow, and the tech market is growing pretty rapidly in most of the major markets around the country.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Are both of those sectors driving the majority of the leasing growth you're seeing?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

No. It's all over the lot. Remember, a lot of our business is renewal and consolidation. We do a lot of business representing law firms around the country on their renewals. In some cases, it may be downsizing and some of the space picked up by other tenants. A lot of our activity has to do with companies just moving or renewing or even in the downsize market, they still have to sign leases, they still have to expand, and they still need space.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Turning to the mortgage brokerage business, excluding Berkeley Point, looks like your debt placement business grew almost 200% year-over-year. Any color as to whether that's driven by recruiting or any emphasis on placing debt more aggressively? Any perhaps debt fund clients? Anything driving that outsized growth in mortgage brokerage?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

We're winning market share. We've hired really great people. It's a combination of the above. The collaborative, cooperative environment that we have, our leasing agents for buildings are generating opportunities for our mortgage brokers. Everybody is working towards the goal of more synergy and more opportunities. I think we're just winning market share.

Howard Lutnick
Chairman, Newmark Group

I think one of the most interesting things I've seen Newmark create is that rather than just having a GSE business, they now offer clients the ability to clear the market. Meaning we will search in every possible category, whether that's insurance companies, whether that's any possible outcome to get you the lowest price for your mortgage, that has grown the business. Having a full ecosystem of selling multifamily, financing with the agencies, and now being able to offer those same clients clear the market, has been able to garner a much larger percentage of the overall multifamily business coming our way, a better product for clients, that's why you're seeing it drive it. Because if in the old days, if we didn't get a GSE transaction, we got nothing.

Now, if we don't get the GSE transaction, we're helping place that with an insurance company or otherwise, really valuing the ecosystem. I think that's why you're seeing this collective drive value across the market, Barry's done an extraordinary job in building that ecosystem.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

It's also across the capital stack, and we're involved in every level of the capital stack, raising equity, mezzanine, pref equity, things. We have programs that allow an owner investor partner to be able to recap his property, whether it's a refinance, a sale, raise additional equity, buy out partners. I think we have to be prepared to provide all those services, and as long as we do, we'll have a bigger market share, and we'll have more touch points with the client.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

That suffices to say, I assume you expect that business, the debt placement business at Berkeley Point to grow in 2019.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

Yes. We do. We've hired a series of originators. We just hired a team that we embedded. We hired two teams where our investment sales operations didn't have debt located. They are now together. In two separate markets. Just in those markets alone, not to mention the ability to have our investment sales brokers get accustomed to the importance of capturing the debt to service our clients. It's not only that we sell the building, but it is a benefit to the clients to be able to underwrite and know going into an acquisition how it's going to be looked at by Freddie or Fannie or an insurance company, right at the onset of their acquisition and their interest in the acquisition.

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Nate, the other thing I would add to that is, and I think Howard said this, as you put together the GSE business with the non-originated lending business, mortgage brokerage, and the investment sales on the multifamily side, that's a business we've grown 25% year-over-year, and we've done $35 billion of transactions across those categories. We just continue, as you put those together, whether it comes from GSE or more investment sales or more mortgage brokerage, we just think we'll outgrow the market in that space.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

In terms of the value of equity compensation, you said you expect to grow the share count 5%-7%, which would be about $140 million-$200 million of value based on the current stock price. I think that's about 8% of the fee revenue guidance. In terms of accounting, if you were to decide not to issue those shares and to issue cash, would 100% of that be expensed and it would impact your fee revenue margin or your, sorry, your adjusted earnings margin as a percentage of fee revenues by about that same 8%?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

When you think about the share count growth, it's compensation to employees, it's compensation for new hires and some of the tuck-in small acquisitions that we have that are on our horizon. I think you have to look across all the categories of where we issue equity compensation. Some of it's acquisition accounting, and some of it is just equity accounting for the employees. I think the answer is that not all of it is going to brokers as sign-ons or brokers as part of their equity compensation.

Howard Lutnick
Chairman, Newmark Group

I think we can reduce the issuance and keep the retentive nature as the scale of our brokers have substantial equity in the company. That is something that we can do, and we think we have factored that into our guidance, and I think while it will be slightly more expensive, we think because of the scale of the company, we are driving up our margins otherwise, and this would just offset that. As Mike said before, by us saying we're comfortable with the margins now, we have the flexibility to reduce our share issuance, and that will be offset by as our scale grows, we would have margin improvement otherwise, and those two will offset each other equally. A pretty balanced margin of where we are now to slight improvement.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alexander Goldfarb of Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Hey. Good morning. I just have two questions for you. I realize it's a busy morning. The first one is, on your EBITDA, you guys have clearly been delivering on double-digit growth, whether it's revenue per producer or your various top-line revenue lines in driving EBITDA growth. When you boil it down to EPS for 2019, we're looking at mid-single digits. Are there things that you guys can do now that you're totally independent, to match EPS growth to be commensurate with the double-digit EBITDA growth that you guys are delivering?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

As you see in our guidance and as talked at the midpoint, our revenue growth, we're projecting around 10% based upon what we know today, the people that we have in-house today. EPS is up about 5%. That is factoring in the 5%-7% share count dilution that we had mentioned earlier. We're always looking at ways to drive the EPS higher. We're looking at ways to lessen the share count dilution, we'll continue to look at that all the time.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

It sounds like it's the share count that's really the dilutive offset there?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Yeah. Between the revenue growth and the EPS growth, that's the difference. Of course, we're just generating a lot of cash flow from the business, we plan to continue to invest that cash flow back into the business to continue to grow our EPS, to continue to grow our EBITDA. We've invested significant amounts in 2018, we plan to continue to do the same next year in 2019.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

We also have invested a lot of money where much of what we're doing is still just stating. We have lots of things that are developing organically that are ramping up and that haven't hit our earnings, and we expect that it will full-blown. You also have, if you look at the multifamily space, we talk about the ramping up and the capture of debt. The other aspect of it, as we continue to add pieces to the multifamily, we have more solid looks at portfolios. We're growing the platform as a national platform, and our production being number two in the multifamily space, the portfolio amount of business that we do is below what we should be. There's an opportunity to get more of that business. The same goes in investment in office and industrial and all those categories.

As we continue to put the athletes on the field in the locations that they need to be, as an institution that's representative as a full global institution, we're going to continue to build market share on large structured transactions that are not obvious in the production today.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Okay.

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Alex, I would add to that, as we continue to drive those cross-selling synergies and opportunities to the top line, that will translate to additional EPS growth and to additional EBITDA growth over time.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Okay. Just second, just to that point, capital-wise for external, if you're not going to issue as much shares for acquisitions, do you guys feel that you have to come back to the capital markets to raise cash, or you feel that you have sufficient capital internally to do the acquisitions you want to do?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

I think if you look at our balance sheet, we have $171 million of liquidity. We have a $250 million line of credit revolver available to us. We generated significant amounts of cash flow from the business in 2018. We expect that to continue into 2019. We think we have adequate capital to continue to invest and grow this business.

Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst, Sandler O'Neill

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Patrick O'Shaughnessy of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Analyst, Raymond James

Hey. Good morning, guys. I wanted to ask about D.C. and potential rule changes and privatization of the GSEs. Obviously, the Trump administration has started to maybe take some tangible steps. How do you see that process unfolding, and how do you currently think of the potential ramifications for Newmark?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

We don't see any near-term changes that affect the GSE business, Fannie and Freddie. We operate across the entire multi-family ecosystem. Given the growth and strength of this asset class and our broad strength across the platform, we expect to grow that business irrespective of how things may change.

Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Analyst, Raymond James

Got it. A question on the flexible workspace strategy for you guys. How would you describe your flexible workspace strategy, and how does your investment in Knotel fit into that?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

Look, we recognized early on the importance of, and the changing structural aspects of the variability of space for large corporations. We invested in Knotel pretty early. We do a lot of business with WeWork as well, and same with Industrious and Spaces and all the other players in the industry. We think that it's an add-on to what we do. We think our brokers put small tenants in the co-working facilities. We get paid commissions for that. We think it's just part of the continuum of the real estate life cycle. It's a good one.

Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Analyst, Raymond James

Got it. Maybe one last one from me. Now that you've put up a couple of quarters after getting your credit ratings, and obviously, the spin has been complete, any progress in working with the rating agencies and potentially getting, I think it was S&P, to get you guys up to investment grade?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

I think that S&P will continue to look at the company. They had indicated they want to see maybe a year of track record after the initial rating. Obviously, at a 0.7 times net debt to EBITDA, more than 10 times interest coverage, our credit metrics are pretty superb. We continue to just operate the company with a lot of available capital to continue to invest and grow this business. Over time, we think they'll come to the answer of the other rating agencies, but it doesn't really have much of an effect on us at this point. We're paying six and an eighth for our long-term debt, and that's in place for five years.

Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Analyst, Raymond James

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Christiansen of Citi. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Peter Christiansen
Analyst, Citi

Good morning. Thanks for the questions. Nice trends, gentlemen. I was wondering if you could talk about some of the drivers in the leasing market. You've been growing roughly mid to high 20s there for the last three quarters. You had this nice pop up in Q4, and I know there's some seasonality there, but can you give us a sense of what portion of that growth was organic? I know you had two deals this year.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

We said our organic growth was 90%. We have a relatively young group of athletes. We have people that are enormously talented that we've recruited over years. We continue to improve the platform, improve our brand. Our brokers continue to get better. We've provided them with infrastructure, technology, information that helps them differentiate themselves to the client. I think that our capital markets business, our understanding of the new FASB rules and how it impacts the balance sheet and the P&L for companies is significant. I think all of the different aspects of our business are focused on providing the most sophisticated product, including aggregating information and data to provide a better understanding of the market and the market's future for our clients.

Peter Christiansen
Analyst, Citi

Mike, if we look at cash flow conversion this year, I think if we exclude the loan originations and sales portion, looks like it was around 55%-ish of EBITDA. Do you see that conversion rate improving in 2019, and what might be some of those factors?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

In 2018, we generated $296 million of cash flow from operations. There's really two things that I'd like to point out there. One, Nasdaq added another $85 million to that, which the money came in in the fourth quarter, and we invested over $100 million back into producers in the business. If you look at our cash flow before those investments, and including Nasdaq, it's $490 million of cash flow from the business on a $552 million EBITDA. We continue to believe that we're going to generate significant amounts of cash flow from the business. We will continue to reinvest in the business, in producers, in acquisition of companies, and in strategic investments.

Peter Christiansen
Analyst, Citi

That's helpful. Interest expense year-over-year at roughly $30 million. Is that how we should think about it?

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Yeah, mid-30s. We're at six and an eighth on $550 million of debt. We have a $250 million revolver.

Peter Christiansen
Analyst, Citi

Which is undrawn.

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Which is undrawn today.

Peter Christiansen
Analyst, Citi

Then last one from me. Gentlemen, I was hoping you could just discuss what you're seeing in the M&A environment, how it's changed in the last couple of months. Do you see a number of opportunities still out there, or how are valuations trending in your view?

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

We're seeing a lot of opportunities. The market's still incredibly fragmented, as we've said before. It's important for everything we do to have a multiplier effect, so one and one has to equal three or four. We're very careful about what we buy, but we have lots of interest. As we get bigger, better, more differentiated, more accepted by institutions, we have way more interest from companies that want to be a part of what we're creating here, That's the exciting part of what we're doing.

Peter Christiansen
Analyst, Citi

Thank you.

Operator

Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of David Ridley-Lane of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

David Ridley-Lane
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Sure. Just a quick follow-up on that change in the mix of cash versus stock and recruiting new brokers. It just dawns on me that it might have an impact on your reported free cash flow. Can you quantify potentially what that could be? Thank you.

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

All of that was really built into the guidance that we gave for EBITDA and for earnings growth for next year, as well as for share account growth. On acquisitions, obviously, if we're opportunistic and we have a good target, we may use a little bit more cash and a little bit less equity than in the past.

David Ridley-Lane
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions in the queue. I turn the call back over to Barry Gosin.

Barry Gosin
CEO, Newmark Group

I'd like to thank everybody for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking to you again soon.

Mike Rispoli
CFO, Newmark Group

Thanks, everyone. Have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you very much for joining the call.