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Earnings Call: Q4 2023

Feb 8, 2024

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the NNN REIT, Inc Q4 and year-end 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Steve Horn, Chief Executive Officer. You may begin.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Thank you, Holly. Good morning, and welcome to NNN REIT's fourth quarter 2023 earnings call. Joining me on the call is Chief Financial Officer, Kevin Habicht. As this morning's press release reflects, NNN's performance in 2023 produced 3.8% Core FFO growth, along with acquisition volume over $800 million. In addition, the year concluded with high occupancy of 99.5%, and dispositions income-producing assets were 140 basis points lower than our acquisition cap rate, all driven by our best-in-class team here at NNN. The end of the year surge positions the company well in the near term, but a few highlights of 2023 that I'm proud of what NNN accomplished. The 34th consecutive annual dividend increase, the rebranding initiative, and the positioning of the executive team for the future.

While the name changed in 2023, the core philosophy to realize long-term value at below average risk for our shareholders remain in the most simplistic form. One, we continue to execute our strategy using a bottom-up approach, continue to increase the annual dividend, maintaining a top-tier payout ratio, and focusing on growing FFO per share in the mid-single digits over multiple years. We maintain this core philosophy by keeping discipline and setting our acquisition activity and our balance sheet management to achieve that objective. Before I get into day-to-day operations and current market conditions, I'd like to welcome Gina Steffens to the executive team. Gina assumed General Counsel role late in the fourth quarter. She joins NNN with a fantastic resume from public and private companies, bringing significant transactional experience. I look forward to the partnership going forward as NNN grows.

As I alluded earlier, NNN is in great shape. At year-end, NNN had $132 million drawn on the $1.1 billion credit facility after deploying over $800 million of capital for the year. Based on our initial 2024 guidance, NNN has the ability to have minimal capital market activity in 2024. This is accomplished by using a nominal amount of the credit facility, the roughly $180 million free cash flow we generate, and $100 million from dispositions to execute 2024 strategy. Using these three sources, I mentioned, leaves NNN with potentially zero equity requirements for the year. This strategy continues NNN's discipline of being selective while deploying capital and opportunistically raising capital over the years.

Management takes great pride in being best-in-class capital allocators, not asset accumulators, and that is a distinction that should not be overlooked for the company to execute in the long run. As we stand here in February, given the macroeconomic forces and the current state of the sector's equity markets, it makes sense for NNN to maintain its operational discipline while deploying capital. That being said, if there's a change in the markets as we progress throughout the year, NNN is well-positioned and will capitalize on the right opportunities. Shifting to the highlights for the fourth quarter financial results, the portfolio now contains 3,052 freestanding single-tenant properties that continue to perform exceedingly well. Occupancy levels reach historic highs of 99.5, which is well above our long-term average of 98%.

The fourth quarter bankruptcy filing of Rite Aid will have minimal to zero impact on NNN. At the time of the filing, NNN was the owner of six assets, and as of the end of January, two of those leases had been rejected by the tenant. In any event, the rent on those assets are near market, so I expect the rent recovery within our historical averages. Turning to acquisitions. During the fourth quarter, we invested nearly $270 million in 40 new properties at an initial cap rate of 7.6%, with an average lease duration of 19.6. Nearly all the capital deployed for the quarter was provided to our relationship business partners. In addition, the long-term projected yield on those acquisitions is 8.9%, which is a reflection of the sale-leaseback acquisition model versus buying existing shorter-term leases.

2023, the market was constantly in price discovery mode, with the bid-ask spread fluctuating, but we continued to maintain our thoughtful and disciplined underwriting approach. Throughout the year, NNN picked up 20 basis points for the last three quarters in acquisitions. That trend continued with pricing of deals in the fourth quarter that will close in the first quarter. There was a moment within the last 60 days that passing through cap rate increases became more challenging. I suspect the pressure from our competitors' acquisition needs hindered that cap rate expansion to a certain extent. Slowing down the cap rate expansion is resulting in the second quarter cap rates being similar to the first quarter, so that change could continue as we move through the quarter.

Also, during the quarter, we sold 19 assets at a 6.5 cap, which included 14 vacant assets, raising $26.5 million of proceeds to be reinvested in new acquisitions. For the year, we raised approximately $115 million of proceeds from the sale of 45 properties at a 5.9 , which included 21 vacant properties. The 5.9, as I stated in the opening, was 140 basis points inside where we deployed capital for 2023, which proved NNN's excellent execution with managing the portfolio. Job one is always to re-lease the vacancies, but we'll continue to sell non-performing assets if we don't see a clear path to generating rental income within a reasonable time period.

With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin for more detail and color on our quarterly numbers and 2024 guidance.

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Thanks, Steve. And as usual, let me start with the cautionary statement that we will make certain statements that may be considered to be forward-looking statements under Federal Securities law. The company's actual future results may differ significantly from the matters discussed in these forward-looking statements, and we may not release revisions to these forward-looking statements to reflect changes after the statements were made. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are disclosed from time to time in greater detail in the company's filings with the SEC and in this morning's press release. Okay, with that out of the way, headlines from this morning's press release. Report quarterly Core FFO results of $0.85 per share for the fourth quarter of 2023.

That was up $0.05 or 6.3% over year-ago results of $0.80 per share. I will be quick to point out, as detailed in the footnote below the earnings table on page one of the press release, that the fourth quarter included $0.03 of accrued rental income in connection with the reclass of one tenant from cash basis accounting to accrual basis accounting as a result of continued improvement in that tenant's financial condition post-pandemic. So without those $0.03 per share, the fourth quarter Core FFO would have been $0.82 per share or 2.5% over year-ago results. For the full year, as Steve mentioned, full year 2023, we reported Core FFO of $3.26 per share, which is 3.8% over year-ago results.

Now, if we exclude the same $0.03 from the accounting reclass, full year results would have been $3.23 per share, or 2.9% over a year ago results, which was at the top of our guidance range, last provided. AFFO results, which are not impacted by accrued rent, were $3.26 per share for the full year, or 1.6% over prior year results. Again, at the top of our guidance range. As we've disclosed since 2020, the last page of our press release provides details of the pandemic deferred rent repayment. And so as those tenants fulfill their deferred rent obligations, the repayment amounts are slowing from $14.5 million in 2022 to just $3.1 million in 2023.

So at the bottom of page 13 of the press release, we have provided pro forma or adjusted per share amounts, excluding these repayments in both 2022 and 2023, to provide a look at, you know, what the recurring fundamental per share performance was. These adjusted results show full year 2023 per share growth of 4.9% for Core FFO and 3.5% for AFFO, both notably better than the reported headline number. We think this gives a better picture of the Core fundamental operating results of our business, but overall, good quarter in line with our expectations. As can be seen again on page 13, those deferred rent repayments are now 93% completed, and so they will have a much smaller impact in 2024 and beyond. All right.

With that, moving on. Our AFFO dividend payout ratio for 2023 was 68.4%, and that resulted in approximately $187 million of free cash flow for the year, and that's after the payment of all expenses and dividends. Occupancy was 99.5% at year-end. G&A expense was $10.5 million for the quarter and $43.7 million for the full year, representing 5.3% of revenues for the year, which again, was in line with our guidance. We ended the year with $818.7 million of annual base rent in place for all leases as of December 31, 2023.

Today, we also initiated our 2024 Core FFO guidance at a range of $3.25-$3.31 per share, and 2024 AFFO guidance with a range of $3.29-$3.35 per share. Page seven of the press release gives you some details on the key assumptions underlying the guidance, and they include $400 million-$500 million of acquisitions, $80 million-$120 million of dispositions, G&A expense of $46 million-$48 million, and property expenses net of tenant reimbursements of $9 million-$11 million.

We do have $350 million of 3.9% debt coming due in June of this year, 2024, and so the refinance of that debt will create nearly a couple pennies of headwind on 2024 results. Hopefully, as the year progresses, and consistent with as we've done in the past, we will have the opportunity to drift our guidance higher. Switching over to the balance sheet, we maintain good leverage and liquidity profile with $968 million of availability on our $1.1 billion bank credit facility.

And as Steve mentioned, despite near record-high acquisition volume of in 2023, we funded approximately 37% of our $820 million of acquisitions, with free cash flow of $187 million, plus the $116 million of disposition proceeds. We continue to be sensitive to our external capital market footprint in this environment. Based on the midpoint of our acquisition and disposition guidance for 2024, we should fund approximately 60% of our 2024 acquisitions with free cash flow and disposition proceeds. Our weighted average debt maturity remains 12 years, which will help us slow the coming refinance headwind that all REITs are facing in the coming years. Net debt to gross book assets was 42% at year-end.

Net debt to EBITDA was 5.5x at December 31st. Interest coverage and fixed charge coverage was 4.5 x for 2023, and all of our properties owned by NNN are unencumbered by mortgages. We remain focused on working to appropriately allocate capital, which to us means ensuring we are getting what we believe are appropriate returns on equity, while controlling risks through property underwriting and maintaining a sound balance sheet. We believe it's one of the more fundamental issues for any REIT or, frankly, any company. Valuing equity adequately, whether that equity is produced by free cash flow or disposition proceeds or new equity issuance, is at the heart of growing per share results over the long term, in our opinion.

So in closing, I think we're in relatively good position to navigate the economic and capital markets uncertainties and to continue to grow per share results, which we view as the primary measure of success. We are mindful that this is a long-term, multi-year endeavor. But the fundamentals of our business remain in good shape. With that, we will open it up to any questions. Holly, thank you.

Operator

Certainly. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please, while we poll for questions. Your first question for today is coming from Spenser Allaway at Green Street.

Spenser Allaway
Managing Director and Sector Head of Self-Storage and Net Lease, Green Street

Thank you. Can you guys talk about how cap rates are trending thus far into 2024, and similarly, how deal volume is trending, just based on what you've sourced and what you can see, maybe looking out the next 30-60 days?

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Hey, Spenser, Steve. Yeah, so going into 2024, as I alluded in the opening remarks, you know, we were picking up, you know, 20 basis points each quarter, and then I expect that, if not a little bit higher for the first quarter, for the deals that got priced in the fourth quarter. But we kind of noticed it felt like there's, you know, you know, the other, you know, REITs put some pressure because they have to do acquisition volume, which kind of plateaued the cap rates that we're seeing that might close in the second quarter. So I kind of see the first half of the cap rates being the same, but they're definitely trending up for the first quarter.

As far as deal volume, there's definitely not as much deal volume out there as there was kind of in the second and third quarter, and I think that's more from the seller side, the supply side, when there's discussions of rate cuts coming, that some sellers are holding off hitting the market, anticipating better cap rates in the near future. But that being said, we're NNN, you know, our acquisition guidance, there's plenty of deal volume out there for NNN to hit its numbers.

Spenser Allaway
Managing Director and Sector Head of Self-Storage and Net Lease, Green Street

Okay, great. And then, does any specific industry within your existing tenant base that's showing more appetite to grow or maybe on the flip side, downsize, their current footprints, just based on discussions you've had?

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

The latter part of the question, no, we're not hearing anybody wanting to downsize in our sectors. You know, everybody's always reevaluating their business models, but as far as growth through M&A or adding stores, there's still a big push in the auto service center from our client base is still growing, and we're starting to see a little bit of the QSR momentum pick up. And then lastly, there is some activity in the c- store market again that we're kind of filtering through opportunities.

Spenser Allaway
Managing Director and Sector Head of Self-Storage and Net Lease, Green Street

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Joshua Dennerlein with Bank of America.

Farrell Granath
Equity Research Associate, Bank of America

Hi, this is Farrell Granath on behalf of Josh. I was wondering if you could elaborate on any bad debt assumption in, especially compared to historical?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, sure. Yeah, so as usual, for us, we've assumed in our guidance, 100 basis points of rent loss baked into our guidance. And that, I would say what is typical and what included in 2023 is that we typically run kind of 40-50 basis points in a typical year. So, yeah.

Farrell Granath
Equity Research Associate, Bank of America

Great. Can you walk me through maybe some of the internal, external drivers of growth, given your lower acquisition guidance?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, you know, for us, it's, in one sense, it's fairly simple kind of model. You know, rent growth, we assume, in our portfolio is gonna be internal growth, will be about 1.5%, so that would add about $12 million. 1.5% of $818 million, or whatever the number was, call it $12 million. And, but we've assumed we'll lose 100 basis points of rent loss, which I like. We've indicated is probably, hopefully, a conservative assumption. So that's -$8 million. And then you got $3 million-$4 million in G&A creep.

And then, as I mentioned, we'll have interest expense for the year will probably be about $5 million-$6 million higher as it relates to the refinance of that $350 million. And so that. And then you layer in acquisitions, if you assume, you know, midpoint, $450 million, you know, then those are kind of the pieces, I think, that got us to where we are in terms of our guidance. And like I said, hopefully, we'll have the opportunity to drift that higher, that guidance higher as the year progresses and consistent with what we've done in the past. But that's where we were comfortable starting out guidance.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from Smedes Rose at Citi.

Smedes Rose
Director, Citi

Hi, thank you. I just wanted to go back for a moment to the acquisitions outlook. It just was a little bit light, at least relative to our expectations, and I think maybe relative to some of your 3Q commentary. You mentioned earlier that sellers are kind of holding off, maybe looking for better pricing for them later in the year. I was just wondering, is that something that sort of changed maybe over the last, you know, since your last, last call? Or, and maybe you could just talk a little bit more about, you know, your the opportunities on that front.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, I mean, as far as the outlook, our acquisition volume, I think we've been pretty consistent over the course of the last six months that we are looking at a light capital markets footprint. So the $400 million-$500 million range of acquisition is pretty consistent. What has changed from the last call was the market was expecting rate cuts coming in March. That was the probability. But from during the last call, that was not on the table. That was more kind of a mid-December discussion item, and at that point is where we felt that sellers weren't coming to the market expecting those future rate cuts. But now they're, you know, they're being delayed.

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Smedes, this is Kevin. One other thing I'd, you know, add is that, that's our style and our approach. I think if you look back over history, you know, I'm guessing our initial acquisition guidance has always looked like relative to where the year ended up, 2023 included. And so, you know, it's funny, in our business, as we've said, you know, you really have, you know, three months, maybe four, but not very much look into the future in terms of a pipeline, I mean, a real pipeline. And so, so it's. We tend to be a little, probably a little more cautious on the front end going in, until we have a better sense of how the year is gonna play out.

Smedes Rose
Director, Citi

Thanks. And then I just wanted to ask you on the tenant that moved back to accrual rents from cash payments. Is that sort of just more or less unusual, or something that you might expect more of as we move through the year?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, yeah, yes, it's unusual. It was unusual, you know, due to the pandemic, for us to actually, you know, go from accrual to cash basis, and then it's unusual to reverse it, and it's GAAP accounting unusual that you would recognize revenue or income when you do this. And so we currently have about 5% of our base rent is still on cash basis, so there's the potential for, you know, more of that in the future. Now, that 5% consists, you know, 90% of that 5% is two tenants, AMC and Frisch's. And so I don't sense in the near term there's gonna be that reclassification that we just did. I'd say in the near term, I wouldn't expect anything on that front.

Smedes Rose
Director, Citi

Great. Thank you.

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Alec Feygin with Baird.

Alec Feygin
Equity Research Associate, Baird

Hi, thank you for taking my question today. So I wanna ask about the size of the development pipeline right now and how you see it trending.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

I would, I would say 2023 was a, a bit what we call split-funded program. You know, just to be clear, we don't develop assets. We're more of a funding source to our current tenants on that, so we're not having any speculation, you know, permits and leases are all in place by the time we deploy capital. Now, that being said, the 2024 pipeline currently is not as large as 2023, but 2023 was a historic high for us, and that was a result of the banking market, where our tenants on the regional banks weren't deploying capital, so they came to us for money. So we had a very strong year in 2023.

Alec Feygin
Equity Research Associate, Baird

Okay, got it. And the second question is, what are you thinking for capitalized interest in 2024?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, and so based on that, that activity in our split-funded program, you know, we'll continue to have capitalized interest. And so, you know, for last year, it totaled $4.3 million for 2023. I think it'll be somewhat less than that, so let's call it around $3 million maybe. But we'll see how it plays out. You know, I will note just for everybody, you know, as a reminder, we do deduct capitalized interest in our calculation of AFFO. I don't think that's probably, I don't think everybody does that, and so I just wanted to kind of highlight that.

Alec Feygin
Equity Research Associate, Baird

Thank you. Have a great day.

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Thanks.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Thanks, Alec.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Linda Tsai with Jefferies.

Linda Tsai
Senior Analyst, Jefferies

Yes, hi. Could you discuss some of the trends you're seeing in the sale-leaseback market?

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, how you doing, Linda? Yeah, and the trend is pretty much similar to the way it's been the last few years. Yeah, I think with the banks pulled back, there was more of an opportunity for sale-leaseback funding. I'm not gonna say 2024 is gonna be a larger opportunity than 2023 because the regional banks are starting to lend a little bit more. But the cap rate, it's always a pricing question, as you know, and the bid-ask spread was fairly large throughout 2023. It has narrowed substantially, just case in point of, you know, us doing nearly $270 million in the fourth quarter. But we're being very selective going into 2024 until the capital markets on the equity side, you know, as we feel are a little bit more open.

But the Sale-Leaseback market, again, there's plenty, it's undefined by size, and there's plenty of opportunity out there to do deals.

Linda Tsai
Senior Analyst, Jefferies

The delta between acquisition and disposition cap rates, where do you think that trends each quarter?

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

You know, historically, it's always been kind of 100 basis points for us. We try to get a little bit more than that. 140 basis points was a significant year for us, and that's kind of why we kind of highlighted on the call. But, you know, in our model, we look at 100 basis points.

Linda Tsai
Senior Analyst, Jefferies

Just one last one. I know, bad debt expectations are low, but could you just compare the tenant watch list for you today versus a year ago?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, I have to think about a year ago, but, I'd say it's, it's pretty, the, the list is consistent. There's no real new names popping up. You know, I, it's, you know, a couple have dropped off, for better or worse, in terms of, you know, we had three Bed Bath & Beyond. We've got a handful of Rite Aid, and so they're, they're, they'll, they'll, die a natural death, I, I believe. But, you know, others that we've talked about in recent quarters, you know, are still on the list, you know, the At Homes. We got two Big Lots or three Big Lots and two JOANNs. We also own some Frisch's Restaurants, which is a restaurant concept, Big Boys, Midwest Big Boy hamburger concept that we have, you know, concerns about, and we've talked about.

And then, you know, of course, the theater exposure, but that's kind of, I put in a separate bucket a little bit. And to be honest, we feel pretty good about where they are at the moment in terms of their liquidity and the ability to pay us rent in the near term. So, but yeah, so all that to say is, yeah, no real change in the list, or the composition or size of the list.

Linda Tsai
Senior Analyst, Jefferies

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Ronald Kamden with Morgan Stanley.

Ronald Kamdem
Managing Director and Head of US REITs and CRE Research, Morgan Stanley

Hey, just staying on the tenants a little bit. I know you get sales that with a lag, obviously, from the tenants, but are you sort of seeing anything suggesting that that low-end consumer is slowing? I think we hear a lot about it, but curious if any of your concepts or tenants are showing sort of softness there.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

No, I mean, from the data, exactly, it is stale. You know, it takes time to get it in and then process it, and not every tenant, you know, divulges it quarterly, sometimes it's annually. But more through discussions, I think it's more live, real-time data that we obtain, is we're not seeing the sales of our tenants dropping, so not, you know, thinking it's getting soft by any means currently. They're all performing. You know, I'm not gonna say, you know, killing it, you know, out of the park, but they're performing well. We do see some margin expansions within the QSR, meaning that they still can get the price through and their labor costs are not eating them up. But overall, you know, we're not seeing a significant softness within our tenant base.

Ronald Kamdem
Managing Director and Head of US REITs and CRE Research, Morgan Stanley

Great. And then just switching gears to the acquisition market a little bit, maybe talk a bit more about the competition today versus previously. I know you mentioned some of the REITs maybe in your opening comments, but curious about 1031 s, private buyers, just today versus 6, 12 months ago, what does that, who are you competing with now? Thanks.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Because we go after the sale-leaseback approach, that's our model, we think it's a lot better of a risk-adjusted return, that we don't play in the 1031 market, so we don't run into the 1031 guys at all to speak of. But we would run into the, you know, the private equity buyers that have been on the sidelines for a while. We are hearing rumblings that they're starting to think about getting back in the market, but they're not the groups I would lean on that were hurting the price, cap rate expansion. It was more our competitors. But Ron, to be honest, that happens typically in the late in the fourth quarter, early in the first quarter, when companies are coming out with their guidance for the year.

They feel the pressure to do the volume. So we see that year-over-year.

Ronald Kamdem
Managing Director and Head of US REITs and CRE Research, Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one. Your next question is coming from Connor Siverski with Wells Fargo.

Connor Siversky
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Good morning. Thank you for the time. Quick question for Kevin on the balance sheet. I'm just looking at this $350 million maturity in June. I'm wondering how the swaps are set up. Can you just roll that over and keep the same rate in, or should we expect a kind of cash outlay associated with paying down that debt?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah. So yeah, we have no derivatives or swaps connected to that debt or any debt at the moment. And so, any swaps that we had or derivatives that we use were only pre-issuance, if you will, and those were terminated at the time we issued the bond. So, any cost or gain associated with those gets amortized over the life of the bond. But, but like I say, all of those derivatives get terminated at the time of debt issuance. So, so nothing outstanding there. So yeah, you should think about that as a true $350 million debt maturity. You know, we'll see what we wanna do in terms of accessing the debt market. They're obviously open right now. They're, I would say, reasonably priced at the moment.

For us today, we're probably kind of a mid-5% for a 10-year kind of issuance, would be my guess. We do love the optionality, and this may or may not be plan A, but, you know, we can use our bank line, too. We have sufficient capacity on our bank line, that if the markets weren't where we might like or we wanted to wait, we could easily pay off that maturity, just using our bank credit facility.

Connor Siversky
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Okay, thank you for the clarification. That's all from me.

Operator

Your next question is coming from John Massocca at B. Riley.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst, B. Riley

Good morning.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Good morning, John.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst, B. Riley

Sorry if I missed it in some of the responses to earlier questions, but do you have, like, brackets around the amount of contractual rent you have in place from cash-basis tenants today, just given the movement of one tenant to on accrual basis?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah. So yeah, we have 5% of our annual ABR, annual base rent, on cash basis, and like I say, really 90% of it consists of two tenants, AMC and Frisch's. And, but, you know, we, you know, through the year 2023, they were all current, and so there was no delta between cash and book basis or booked revenue as it relates to that. You know, and again, as I mentioned, you know, we don't expect, I don't expect either of those tenants moving from cash basis to accrual basis in the near term, and so they'll remain cash basis.

But it, it has no real impact, really, on the way we operate or the way we think, or, or frankly, I, and I wouldn't include it in the way we model things. And so we assume they'll continue to pay rent going forward. Having said that, we create a 100-basis point rent loss assumption baked into our guidance to hopefully account for any, any kind of hiccups on the, on the tenant rent side.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst, B. Riley

Okay. And then, I know we're dealing with small sample sizes, but what's the plan for the Rite Aids you're getting back or might potentially get back? And do you think there's a market out there to re-lease them as pharmacy, or that they need to be kind of repositioned for, I guess, higher and better use, if you will?

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah. Currently, yeah, the two that were rejected out of the six, we have a lot of interest. If it's, you know, not surprising, the car wash, but we have some QSR interest as well. So I'd expect those two to be redeveloped and put on a ground lease. The other four, you know, as far as Rite Aid, performed fairly well. So we'll see what happens if and when we get those back. But again, kind of what I stated in the open remarks, they're well-positioned, they're near market rent, so I'm not expecting anything outside our historical averages as far as a recapture rate.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst, B. Riley

Okay. And then just in terms of kind of modeling and AFFO, anything to be aware of in terms of rent bumps? I just know, you know, given a good portion of the portfolio has kind of five-year lookbacks on bumps, just, you know, is there any seasonality this year or last year just to be aware of as we're kind of updating our models?

Kevin Habicht
CFO, NNN REIT, Inc

Yeah, no, in terms of rent increases, you know, our. While we have a variety of one-year annual increases or increases every three years or increases every five years, it's, we have a sample size that's sufficiently large, that it all pencils out to be about 1.5% a year, despite those varying terms for rent increases. So the way I would think about it is a 1.5% rent increase for this year and going forward.

John Massocca
Senior Research Analyst, B. Riley

Okay, that makes sense, and that's it for me. Thank you very much.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Thanks, John.

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Steve for closing remarks.

Steve Horn
CEO, NNN REIT, Inc

Thanks, Holly. Thanks for joining us this morning. Just to reiterate, NNN, yeah, we're in good shape as we head into 2024. Yeah, we're willing to pivot if market conditions change. We look forward to telling the story to many of you guys, kind of in the upcoming conference season. Take care. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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