Greetings, and welcome to the Norfolk Southern Corporation Second Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Katie Cook, Director of Investor Relations.
Thank you. You may begin.
Thank you, Christine, and good morning. Before we begin today's call, I would like to mention a few items. The slides of the presenters are available on our website at norfolksouthern.com in the Investors section, along with our non GAAP reconciliations. Additionally, transcripts and downloads of today's call will be posted on our website. During this call, we may make certain forward looking statements, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and may differ materially from our actual results.
Please refer to our annual and quarterly reports filed with the SEC for a full discussion of those risks and uncertainties we view as most important. Now, it is my pleasure to introduce Norfolk Southern's Chairman, President and CEO, Jim Squires.
Thank you, Katie, and good morning, everyone, and welcome to Norfolk Southern's Q2 2016 earnings call. With me today are NS' Chief Marketing Officer, Alan Shaw our Chief Operating Officer, Mike Wheeler and our Chief Financial Officer, Marta Stewart. Our results this quarter as shown on Slide 4 underscore the flexibility built into our team's planning and execution. Volumes came in below expectations, so we quickly reined in costs, pushing operating expenses down 11% in the face of a 10% decline in revenue. As a result, we posted a 68.6% operating ratio, 140 basis points or 2% below last year.
Earnings per share for the quarter were 1.36 dollars just 4% lower than last year's $1.41 For the 1st 6 months of 2016, our 69.4 operating ratio set a record, while EPS increased 10% year over year. These results reflect an unwavering focus on cost control and steadfast commitment to customer service. Thus, even as we aggressively reduced spending, we drove significant improvements in network performance as shown by the 13% uptick in the composite service metric in the quarter and 18% increase in the first half. Turning to Slide 5. Even in the current challenging environment, we believe we can achieve at least $200,000,000 of productivity savings for the full year and an operating ratio below 70.
Longer term, we will continue positioning for top line growth while targeting annual productivity savings of over $650,000,000 by 2020 and an operating ratio below 65. Given our strong start this year, we are well on our way. Now, Alan will cover trends in revenue, Mike will provide more detail on how we're managing the operation and Marta will summarize our financial results. Then we'll take your questions. But before I turn over the microphone, let me add a word of thanks to all our employees.
Your intelligence and hard work are the keys to our success. Thank you. And now I'll turn the program over to Alan and then return to take your questions.
Thank you, Jim, and good morning to our audience. We appreciate you joining us today. Norfolk Southern continues to face economic headwinds, especially in regard to energy prices. Declining coal shipments and fuel surcharge revenue coupled with the Triple Crown restructuring and reduced crude oil volume lowered top line in the 2nd quarter. Excluding Triple Crown and fuel surcharges, intermodal revenue increased slightly year over year.
In addition to decreased fuel surcharges, the mix associated with lower coal volume and increased intermodal reduced our 2nd quarter revenue per unit, despite accelerated pricing growth in the quarter. Within our merchandise market, as shown on Slide 8, increased shipments of cement and steel benefited our metals and construction volume. While second quarter and expected full year automotive volume growth is in line with North American vehicle production, second half volumes will be influenced by competitive losses and plant specific outages associated with decreased model demand, limiting year over year comparisons. Chemicals market declines were driven by crude oil and by plant closures and consolidations that reduced industrial intermediates traffic. Our agriculture markets were impacted by increased competition from local corn moving via truck and weaker feed exports.
Merchandise RPU excluding fuel increased 2% due to positive pricing despite the negative mix associated with decreased industrial intermediates and frac sand. As reflected on slide 9, international intermodal growth of 4% partially offset losses in both domestic and Triple Crown Freight. Our alignment with the ports and shipping lines adding capacity for growth will benefit the international segment over the long term. Intermodal continues to be impacted by excess capacity in the truck market, a condition we expect to change next year. Lastly, the Triple Crown restructure will affect our year over year volume comparisons until midway through the Q4.
Excluding Triple Crown and fuel surcharges, intermodal posted an increase of 1% revenue, volume and RPU. RPU benefited from strong pricing despite the adverse mix associated with increased international freight. Moving on to coal on Slide 10. Coal volumes declined as a result of sustained low natural gas prices, high stockpiles and continued weak export conditions. RPU excluding fuel remained flat with positive pricing neutralized by mix.
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and 4th quarter volume. Our 2016 pricing remains strong overall, though we do see some softness in truck competitive sectors. We continue to focus on maintaining the service product that the market values, commanding a higher price and attracting service sensitive business. Lastly, as we monitor market conditions and changing volume expectations, we will control all aspects of our business impacted by these shifts. Marketing is collaborating closely with operating and finance departments to correctly align our resources with current volume trends.
To further discuss our operations, I will now turn it over to Mike.
Thank you, Alan. I am pleased to announce we are continuing to operate at high service levels while achieving significant results in our cost reduction initiatives. As Jim noted, thanks to the commitment and focus of our employees on executing these key drivers of our strategic plan. The following results are due to NS employees' hard work. Let me begin with safety on Slide 14.
While our reportable injury ratio increased in the 2nd quarter as compared to the same period last year, we have seen an improvement sequentially this year, which is encouraging. We also maintained a low serious injury ratio. Turning to service on Slide 15. You see we further improved our already high service levels from the Q1. This marks the 6th consecutive quarter of improved service to our customers.
For the Q2, our service composite improved 13%, which was driven by 32% improvement in train performance and an 11% improvement in shipments making their connection. So it is good to see all components of the service composite improving. What is equally encouraging is we have maintained and achieved this while aggressively and successfully pursuing cost reduction initiatives as supported by our 68.6 operating ratio. We remain confident we can continue to keep service at a high level while we focus on continuing to identify and implement further cost reduction initiatives. As you can see on slide 16, our train speed and terminal dwell improved 12% and 9% respectively compared to the same period last year.
Overall velocity as measured at the car level remains near our record levels and continues to aid our asset utilization and improve service for our customers. This has been a driver in being able to store 4 50 locomotives. We are also very pleased to see our service and velocity metrics remain very high even with the idling of Knoxville, a major hump terminal on May 1. Now on slide 17, our ability to keep the railroad operating at a high level while implementing aggressive cost cutting initiatives resulted in significant productivity savings. Our reduction in crew starts was in line with our drop in volume and we have continued to improve our train length, re crews and overtime.
Together, this resulted in improved employee productivity. Also our T and E headcount was down 9%, which helped drive a reduction in our overall corporate headcount. I will now turn it over to Marta, who will highlight the effect of these improvements.
Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Let's take a look at the 2nd quarter financials. Slide 19 summarizes the operating results and highlights the expense control focus that Jim discussed. While revenues declined by 10% on the 7% lower volume, our operating expenses were down 11%. This led to a much improved operating ratio of 68.6.
The next slide shows the expense reductions by category. As was the case in the Q1, all categories except for depreciation were lower. Depreciation was up 4%, reflecting continued investment in our capital assets. Now let's take a closer look at each of the other components. Slide 21 depicts the drop in fuel expense totaling $81,000,000 or 32% for the quarter.
Lower oil prices resulted in a 25% decrease in the price per gallon, while consumption fell by 6%. Turning to Slide 22, compensation costs were down by $57,000,000 or 8%. As shown on the lower left of the slide, our average headcount for the quarter declined by about 2,000 employees versus last year and was flat sequentially. Since we did not see the normal historical rise in volumes from the first to the second quarter, we were able to hold employment levels lower than previously expected. This reduced headcount along with lower overtime and fewer re crews resulted in $50,000,000 of year over year savings.
The associated payroll taxes were favorable by $11,000,000 and we had $9,000,000 in lower pension expense. These items were partially offset by $14,000,000 in health and welfare rate increases associated with our agreement workforce. For the remainder of the year, we expect headcount to remain relatively flat, but we will face about a $30,000,000 per quarter headwind for incentive comp since last year's 3rd and 4th quarters included reversals of accruals. Of course, both of these expectations are based on our current volume projection. Purchased services and rents is depicted on Slide 23 and was down $54,000,000 or 12%.
Lower costs associated with the curtailed Triple Crown operations accounted for $38,000,000 of the reduction and expenses related to joint facilities and haulage declined by $8,000,000 Slide 24 details our materials and other category, reflecting a decrease of $33,000,000 or 14%. Reductions totaling $26,000,000 were due to declines in materials usage for locomotives, freight cars and roadway, with the largest drop related to locomotives as a result of the fewer units in service that Mike mentioned. For the remainder of the year, we continue to expect favorability in materials costs, but at a somewhat moderated level of about $15,000,000 per quarter compared with the 3rd 4th quarters of last year. Next, taking a look at non operating income on Slide 25. We had a large relative decrease of $15,000,000 in this category, which was primarily related to 3 items: reduced income associated with our leased coal properties, fewer gains on property sales and cost for external advisors.
Moving on to income taxes on Slide 26. The effective rate for the 2nd quarter was 36.3% versus 38.1% last year. The lower effective rate reflects a combination of small items including corporate life insurance, tax credits and a state tax law change. For the full year, we continue to expect an effective income tax rate of roughly 37%. Slide 27 shows our bottom line results with net income of $405,000,000 a decrease of 6% versus 2015 and diluted earnings per share of $1.36 down 4% compared with last year.
Wrapping up our financial overview on Slide 28. Cash from operations for the 1st 6 months was $1,400,000,000 covering capital spending and producing $500,000,000 in free cash flow. With respect to shareholder returns, we paid $350,000,000 in dividends and repurchased $400,000,000 of our shares. Going forward and in light of the still soft volumes, we have trimmed capital spending for the full year by another $100,000,000 and now project $1,900,000,000 in total CapEx for the year. We remain on track for full year share repurchases of $800,000,000 Thank you for your attention and I'll turn the program back to Jim.
Thank you, Marta. And we'll now take your questions.
Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Ken Hoexter with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.
Great. Good morning. Alan, you mentioned a lot of core pricing going up or even flat in some categories. Can you give us it sounds like though some competition pressuring some of the volumes in different instances as well. Can you talk about overall your thoughts on pricing given what's going on in the truck market going what's given on different commodities on an aggregate basis?
Yes, Ken, good morning. Pricing is still moving up for us. We accelerated pricing year over year. We are facing some competition with respect to truck. It doesn't mean we're taking lower prices.
It more can limits our upside potential in certain truck competitive markets.
So I'm sorry, just so in aggregate still kind of above inflation. I mean can you give a parameter of how in aggregate you're thinking about pricing overall?
Yes. We are taking a measured and disciplined approach to pricing. We're focused on competitive pricing above rail inflation. We continue to exceed that and we are exceeding the pricing levels that we achieved last year.
Okay, wonderful. And then a follow-up on a different subject. But just looking, Jim, talking about your long term double digit growth and sub-sixty five target, great to see the progress with the $200,000,000 When you think about the $650,000,000 to get to that scale, is that new programs? Is that shutting additional yards? You mentioned one of the hump yards you shut down.
Can you kind of give maybe some parameters on other as you've moved along in this development, your thoughts on how you're going to get there?
Sure. Well, we've previously outlined a goal of $650,000,000 in annual productivity savings by 2020. And we are making good progress on that thus far. We're only 6 months into a 5 year plan, so we still have a lot of ground to cover. But the big buckets of that $650,000,000 as you know are in comp and benefits, fuel consumption, locomotive maintenance and reduced equipment costs and fees.
And we're making progress in all of those areas. We have plans in place to continue pushing productivity gains for the remainder of this year and the 5 year plan period. Great.
Thanks for the time this morning. Appreciate the
insight. Our next question comes from the line of Tom Wadewitz with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Yes, good morning. I wanted to ask you a little bit about how we might think about operating ratio in the second half. It sounds like you're having a little more constructive outlook for volumes that there could be some improvements. I know you've got good operating leverage in your scheduled carload network, presumably intermodal as well. So I'm just wondering, I think you talked about some cost pressures from incentive comp and so forth.
How would you think about operating ratio in second half and maybe the impact of operating leverage of volume improve relative to what might be happening on the cost side?
Yes, Tom. Thank you. Good morning. We still are guiding towards the below 70% operating ratio for the full year. You are correct that we had good movement on that in the second quarter.
For the remainder of the year, the two items that I will point out, you mentioned one of them that will cause the $68,400,000 to maybe go up a little bit, but still stay below $70,000,000 is the incentive comp and then also the rate of decline in the materials expenses. But we are comfortable with our continuing our guidance of below 70% for the full year.
And how do you think about volumes like I mean, I guess if we see volumes develop a little bit better and you do see kind of less worse Q3 and then improvement year over year in Q4, is it fair to think that there'll be nice impacts in terms of operating leverage and nice impact to the OR? Or should we be kind of cautious on how we anticipate that coming through?
Certainly volume growth represents upside. Volume growth beyond our expectations would represent upside particularly if it occurs in lines of business with high operating leverage. So yes, that's certainly a possibility. We believe we have the capacity to take advantage of natural operating leverage in those businesses. Now I'll turn it over to Alan to talk a little bit more about the volume outlook generally in the second half.
Tom, I spoke a little bit about it in the remarks as I walk through our different commodities. For us, it's going to be a coal and intermodal outlook. And merchandise ups and downs are going to be dependent upon energy prices. If you take a look at the forward curve for commodities and energy prices, the 4th quarter is higher than it stands today. Although I'll note that just this month WTI has pulled back 12%.
So that creates some caution to our outlook. But generally, we see that sequential growth in the Q3, Q4 comps should be much easier for us because Q4 last year is when we saw the commodities downdraft and we saw the Triple Crown restructuring towards the middle of the quarter.
Right. Okay. Great. Thanks for the time.
Our next question comes from the line of Ravi Shanker with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks. Good morning, everyone. I just want to clarify a response to previous question on pricing. Did you say that your year on year pricing is actually above what it was last year or just that you're getting higher price versus last year?
Robbie, I did say that our year on year pricing higher than it was stood at this point last year. We're taking a long term approach as are our customers. There is an expectation that the trucking market is going to tighten at some point next year and we've started to see some sequential improvement in demand in the truck market just this month.
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were leveraging the benefit of our improved service product.
Okay, got it. And not that anyone knows what the weather would do, but does your 4Q volume growth forecast assume a normal winter or a warm winter just given that we're having record heat this year?
We are assuming normal weather patterns. And certainly, weather and natural gas prices will determine how quickly stockpiles return to normal within the coal network. In any case, we don't believe that that will occur until sometime next year.
Great. Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Allison Landry with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning. Thanks. I just wanted to follow-up on the OR commentary for the back half. I just want to make sure I understand it correctly. So potentially a little bit worse sequentially in Q3, but then maybe with volume growth in Q4, the normal sequential deterioration that you'd see in the OR then maybe the sort of cadence is off it.
Is that the right way to think about it?
I think the right directionally, I think you're right, Allison. I think the right way to think about it is it's very dependent on the volumes that come. So you all are familiar with our incremental margin hierarchy, which is when the volumes come back in merchandise that is the most positive incrementally and then coal and then intermodal because of the specific costs that it has. So it's very dependent on the volume. You're not going to see a very you're not going to see a huge change in any of these items.
I guided to the 2 specific items in expense going forward that will be slightly different in the 3rd and 4th quarters. But as Mike and the operating team continue to run the railroad very, very efficiently, you're operating expense wise of what you saw in the Q2.
Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. And then thinking about CapEx and maybe if you could provide any initial thoughts on spending for 2017, considering what will likely be 2 consecutive down years for GTMs and then the percentage of the locomotive fleet that's in storage?
Sure. I'll take that one Allison. So we have previously guided to CapEx at 19% of revenue through the completion of PTC thereafter, we expect to be able to reduce CapEx by several percentage points relative to sales. And we've been aggressive this year on CapEx in light of volumes, revenue and cash flow that have not met initial expectations. We've reduced CapEx, as Marta mentioned, fully $200,000,000 relative to our original plan.
That's important because we're focused on making the investments we need to make. We will invest as required to operate safely, efficiently and provide a high level service product. Beyond that, it's all about the returns. If they're there, we'll invest more. If they're not, we won't.
We recognize the need to generate ample free cash flow for shareholders and that's all part of our strategy.
Okay. And then maybe just a follow-up on that. So, Marta, I think you had mentioned at some of the conferences in the last few months that you guys are still expecting to acquire, I think, another 50 new locomotive units next year. Is that still the way that you guys are thinking about it?
That's correct. We have 50 new locomotives coming in next year.
Okay, great. Thank you for the time.
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Wetherbee with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Great. Thanks. Good morning. Just want to follow-up on that CapEx question and just sort of just conceptually thinking about maybe the cadence of volume growth as you look out over the course of the next year or so and sort of the progress of locomotives that you need to take on. I guess maybe the question comes up of why wouldn't we maybe see CapEx kind of fall a little bit before PTC spending goes down.
You do have sort of lower incremental spending on equipment coming. I just want to make sure I kind of get all of the moving parts when we think about that maybe for 2017, 2018?
I'd like to turn it over to Mike to talk about our locomotive strategy in particular, since that's obviously a significant capital budget item. To reiterate what I said a minute ago, we will invest as necessary to provide a safe, efficient, high service product. After that, we'll see. It just depends on the returns on the incremental dollar of investment. What I would love for investors to take away from this call is our commitment to disciplined capital spending in the here and now.
And as noted, we've tightened the reins on capital spending this year just as we have on expense to reflect lower than expected revenue and cash flow. And that's really important in our business. It's an asset intensive business. We've got to stay disciplined on CapEx as with expenses and that's part of our plan to drive free cash flow. Mike, why don't you talk a little bit about the locomotive strategy specifically?
Yes. Well, we still do have the 50 locomotives new next year. We continue to progress down the really innovative DC to AC rebuild strategy that we have in place, which over the next several years will allow us to bring the age of our fleet down and get good locomotives at a much lower capital cost than new.
Okay. That's helpful. So it's productivity as well. That makes sense. Can I ask a question, just follow-up on productivity, the $200,000,000 or better, I think, for this year?
Can you give us a sense of maybe sort of how that might be portioned out into the back half of the year, maybe where you are and kind of how we should be thinking about it for 3Q and 4Q?
So we've outlined an annual productivity objective and that's where we're going to stay in terms of our productivity goals. We have seen significant progress in productivity in the first half. Obviously, you see that in the numbers. We said that we
has been toward that goal this year?
We did say in the Q1 that we front loaded some of the productivity. You saw that in the Q1 and we continued on track during the Q2. For the full year, we're still thinking we can do at least $200,000,000
Right. And generally speaking, the front end loading that Jim described is in the materials area. And so the detail that we gave with regard to the $42,000,000 materials reduction in the first quarter and then $26,000,000 this quarter. You can see that front end loading there because we expect $15,000,000 dollars going forward. So if you kind of look at that difference, that's the area where we had the front end loading.
Okay. That's perfect. Thank you very much for the time. I appreciate it.
You're welcome.
Our next question comes from the line of Bascome Majors with Susquehanna. Please proceed with your question.
Yes, thanks for taking my question here. The STB has promised a decision on the Net Leads competitive switching proposal by the end of this month, which is just a few days away. I was hoping you could shed some light on what your expectations are to both the timing and the content of that when we receive it based on your engagement with the agency?
The STB had publicized a schedule for issuing rulings in that case and several others earlier this year. My understanding is that's not a deadline. It's not binding on the STB. It's their current expectation as to when they'll issue rulings. So I don't have any further insight to shed on the timeline or what may come from the STB.
We have certainly made our case for the status quo when it comes to competition in the industry. And we'll just have to wait and see how the STB rules there and in the other matters that are pending.
Understood. Maybe one more. The truck competition in your carload merchandise business, can you shed a little light on where you might be bleeding share to truck or either seeing a bit more acute pressure on price in some of this carload business as you kind of alluded to earlier? And from a high level, do you have a sense of how much this has been a drag on your overall volumes?
Bascome, we talked about intermodal. Your question is specific to merchandise and Carlo, correct? So I'll address that. I mentioned the fact that we're seeing additional competition within our ag markets. That also has to do with the strength of the crop in the Southeast.
It opens up local corn, into our network, which can move via truck. We're seeing some truck competition in the paper market into the Southeast. So it certainly has had an impact, as we know, on our domestic intermodal volumes and also on our carload business. Going forward, it's we're going to be looking closely at energy prices, the impact they have on truck, on truck availability and on commodity prices and retail inventories.
Thank you for the time.
Our next question comes from the line of Rob Salmon with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning and thanks for taking the question. I'm going to kind of circle back to Chris' question regarding productivity. You guys have done a good job extending train lengths. They were up a little bit in the quarter. However, if I'm looking at headcount per carload, that was essentially flat.
Can you walk me through some of the puts and takes and what it would take to kind of get back to a little under 70 where you peaked out a couple of years ago with regard to headcount per carload? Is this a mix issue Or should we be thinking about a lot of operating leverage as volumes build, particularly in the merchandise and intermodal?
Yes. Well, there is a mix issue there. And as volumes are softening, we take train starts out of the network to build up other trains. And that's a balancing act. You don't want to do that real quickly because you don't want to hurt the service on the network.
So that's the challenge there. But the good news is going forward, that gives you great operating leverage. And for us, we've got capacity on the trains in all commodity groups really. We've got capacity on the network and we've got capacity in our resources of locomotives and crews. So we've got a lot of leverage to the upside.
But if volumes remain soft, we continue to whittle at the resources to make sure that all the productivity and efficiency is there.
And can you give us a sense of the how much below you are the optimal train size opportunity in kind of your merchandise intermodal networks as I think about kind of what that leverage could be?
We've got a good ways to go both on the merchandise side and the intermodal side. We're very comfortable where that's at, being able to add more units to both of those trains before we start train starts and then if we need to do train starts, we'll add that on. That'll be a good new story. But we feel very comfortable about capacity on both of those, particularly the intermodal. We have such a great double stack network that gives us a lot of efficiency.
And any sense in terms of just the magnitude of a delta versus kind of optimal?
No, because I think you get down to the lane level and the terminal level and
a lot
of details there, but we take every opportunity we can.
Understood. Appreciate the time.
Our next question comes from the line of Jason Seidl with Cowen. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you, operator, and good morning, everybody. Two quick things for me. One, following up on your commentary in the intermodal versus truck marketplace. I think you guys said that there's been some sequential improvement, especially over the last month. I was wondering if you could elaborate on that and let us know, has it been an increase in sort of truck spot pricing?
Has there been a decrease in available trucks? Any color would be appreciated on that comment.
Jason, we have seen an increase in truck spot pricing. It's increasing sequentially. It's not increasing year over year.
Okay. That's a good update. Also, maybe this one might be for Jim. Jim, I think when we came into this year in terms of the sort of total restructuring plan at Norfolk, you talked about 1600 miles of track divestitures and that you would do 1,000 or let us know where the 1,000 was going by the end of this year. I think you've done just over 300 miles so far this year.
I'm wondering if you can give us an update.
Sure. Well, we're making good progress there as in other areas of productivity and restructuring. And we're on track to hit or exceed that mileage goal for the full year. Mike, why don't you talk a little bit more specifically about some of the areas where we're working that?
Yes. So we've got a lot going on there. We've got 2 pieces to this. This is the where we're doing some short lining and we've got a short line of the West Virginia secondary that will happen here actually next week. So that's a piece of it.
We're looking at other parts of the railroad as well. But the other piece to it on the network rationalization is where we've spent a lot of time looking at where we can take resources out of the track structure without hurting service or safety. And that's been a good new story. We've got over 1,000 miles of that that's already happened on the railroad and some of the benefits that we've seen in our cost reduction is related to that. More to come as we go forward.
So we feel very comfortable about meeting or exceeding that. And I think we're thinking about giving an update on the Q3 on the details of actually where these are at. But anyway, kind of a wrap up is we're ahead of schedule on it and we're seeing good costs come out of the network, but more importantly, the safety and service has remained high on those areas.
That was a great update guys. I appreciate the time as always.
Our next question comes from the line of Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, thanks. Good morning, guys.
Good morning. Good morning, Chuck.
Marta, can you all clarify one thing? So I get the incentive comps a year over year headwind in the Q3. Is it a sequential headwind from 2Q to 3Q?
It's very small sequential headwind, going forward. As you saw, it wasn't one of the year over year items that I needed to highlight. So that gives you an indication it's a smaller size.
So if it's a small sequential headwind and you're expecting some volume improvement, I guess I'm a little confused why you're not why you think the operating ratio gets worse in the Q3 than the Q2?
I mean, we're really just talking very we're talking very tiny basis points. I think in response to Allison's question, I think the best thing when you're looking at the expense projection sequentially going forward other than the two items that I mentioned, the incentive comp and the materials, we think you will see us at about the run rate that we had in the Q2. So we're really talking degrees, very small degrees. And again, I'll emphasize that it depends on the volume growth and the commodities that it comes in.
Okay. That makes sense. Can you give an update just on the fuel surcharge side and how much of the business you've transitioned over?
Yes, Scott, 1st and foremost, we are focused on price. And so as we enter into any negotiation, that's our target initially. We have been successful and made some progress. And right now, about 40% of our revenue is tied to WTI.
Okay. And then just lastly, Alan, can you just give us an update, what's the mix of your coal business in terms of how much is app versus Illinois Basin and PRB today?
So the second quarter, we saw a mix increase of central app. So we had about 34% of our volume was central app, about 30% was northern app, Illinois Basin was about 21% and then PRB Scott filled in the rest.
Okay. Thank you guys.
You're welcome.
Our next question comes from the line of Justin Wong with Stephens. Please proceed with your
So first, I was wondering if you could just comment on how you're thinking about the progression of your intermodal volumes in the back half of the year. And bigger picture, do you think this recent weakness in intermodal volumes that we've seen for the industry as a whole is a temporary headwind? Or do you have concern the consumer could be rolling over?
Justin, we think we're going to have continued improvement in our automotive volumes. June was a good month for us. We see continued growth as we and our customers see the benefit of our improved service product. Secondly, our customers are preparing for a tightness in truck capacity. And what you're seeing there is more growth with asset based carriers.
So we do think it's a temporary headwind. As fuel prices go up, that will also benefit us. But certainly, we're paying close attention to retail inventory levels.
Okay. But just to be clear, you think your intermodal volumes will be up in the back half? Is that what you said? Yes. Okay, great.
Ex Triple Crown. Okay, got you. Secondly, we've always heard about coal being the highest margin business for the rails, But with your coal volumes down over 20% year to date and the pressure we've seen over the last couple of years, has this changed? Has the gap between coal margins and your consolidated margins closed?
There continues to be pressure on our coal franchise. That market is dynamic and so are we. And so we are we're focused on improving the profitability and the returns on all of our lines of business.
Okay. But that gap between coal and everything else really hasn't changed?
As I suggested, we're focused on improving the profitability on all lines of our business.
Okay. I'll leave it at that. Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Oglenski with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. So, Jim, appreciate that you guys managed through a pretty difficult second quarter with the sub-seventy OR, but we do have a lot of the industry that's running even sub-sixty 5 OR, if not even well below that in the current volume environment. And as we've talked a lot about the OR progression kind of sequentially flattish, if not even up a little bit into the back half of the year, how much of your productivity savings are really just hoping for volume growth versus what more can you do structurally? I mean, we've seen Triple Crown, we've seen the hump yard closures, we've seen you go from 2 to 3 operating regions or 3 to 2.
So what structurally is left in the network that you can identify from a cost standpoint?
Well, the key to delivering on the
plan is flexibility and that's what we demonstrated in the Q2. The plan is dynamic. It is flexible and able to address changing market conditions as we've outlined. We will continue to evaluate efficiencies in all areas and ensure that we have the opportunity to adjust things going forward as necessary. Certainly, there is a component of growth assumed in our longer range plan and we believe we'll see that.
If we don't, we will make adjustments as necessary to achieve our goals.
Okay. But as of now, then there's nothing really structurally on the plate that you're looking at changing operationally for the company?
We've made a number of changes that I would characterize as structural already and we'll be on the lookout for further opportunities there. Cost cutting is always a combination of short term cost reductions in response to immediate business conditions and then a long term outlook on structure. And we have initiatives in place in both areas, both short term reductions as necessary and longer term structural activities that will to shape the cost structure of the company in the future.
Okay. Thanks for that. And just real quick clarification on CapEx. I know we talked a little bit about the outlook heading into next year and the years beyond. But should we be thinking CapEx actually can come down?
Post PTC, we have guided to CapEx below current levels relative to sales. So yes, when we get to that point. As I've said, the keys are safety, efficiency and customer service. That forms your baseline for capital spending. Beyond that baseline, it's all about the returns on the incremental investment.
And we will look carefully at every additional dollar we spend. As I mentioned, what we would love investors to focus on out of this call is the way we have managed CapEx this year. In response to business conditions, we have been every bit as determined to modulate CapEx as we have expenses and that's our commitment going forward as well.
Okay. Appreciate the time. Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Brian Ossenbeck with JPMorgan. Please
Alan, I just wanted to get your view on export gold trends. I believe all of those, but you did a little bit better than the $3,000,000 per quarter in 2Q. So you see the coking coal benchmark nearing 100 API2 is close to 60. Do you think you can perhaps run closer to 3.6 throughout the rest of the year if the pricing holds? Or was there something kind of one off that helped boost volumes this quarter?
Brian, it is an extremely volatile market. We're impacted by the health of the producers and bankruptcies. And they're doing everything they can do to produce coal and sell it overseas, but it's it's highly dependent upon global demand and seaborne trade and right now those are fairly weak. So our guidance has typically been 2,500,000 to 3,000,000 tons a quarter. We exceeded that as you noted last quarter.
We're going to continue with that guidance for this quarter. But there's it's so volatile and there's a lot of pressures there that it would be difficult to call an upside or downside to
that. Okay, fair enough. And then I don't know if you've commented on it specifically, but if you could in the context of the long term strategic plan, what type of options do you think there are for Lambert's point, considering the way that the markets are now, China demand is down, including the volatility remains. Have you thought through or is that built into the strategic plan at all?
Yes. What is built into the strategic plan is our continuing focus on monitoring our markets and adjusting our resources accordingly. And you saw that as we've idled Ashtabula and we vitals Knoxville Yard and we combined the Pocahontas division with the Virginia division, which was effectively a cold play.
Right. And just one quick follow-up for Martha. In the past, you've given out the net fuel impact, which is obviously quite significant in 2015. I think it was about $20,000,000 unfavorable in the Q1. Do you have the impact on what it was in the second quarter?
Well, if you look at our fuel surcharge revenue, it was $50,000,000 in the quarter, which was $69,000,000 reduction. So comparing that to the drop in fuel expense of $81,000,000 there was a little bit of a net small tailwind in the quarter.
Okay. All right. Thanks for your time.
Our next question comes from the line of Scott Schneeberger with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks. Good morning. You mentioned
in prepared remarks in the automotive sector, some competitive losses and lesser demand impacting the back half. Could you just elaborate a little bit on what you're seeing and perhaps some feel for the magnitude of what that might be?
Yes, Scott. We said that there are some specific models typically in passenger cars in which the plants are undergoing retooling, which are going to impact our volumes in the second half of the year. We also, as you'll recall, on our Q1 call, pointed towards the fact that comps would get a lot more difficult towards the latter end of the year, because in the second half of twenty fifteen, service started to improve and we started to work through the backlog of shipments in the automotive network. That in and of itself will put pressure on year over year comps. We still feel consistent with what we said on the Q1 call that our overall volumes for the year in automotive are going to approximate the North American vehicle growth, which, Wards right now puts at 1.1%.
Great. Thanks. And then, I don't know if I you might have mentioned, I don't know if I caught it, the $100,000,000 reduction in the CapEx this year. Could you elaborate on maybe what the top 2 or 3 categories are that you're able to trim in the here and now? Thanks.
All right. Yes, Scott. Well, we've actually so far this year had $200,000,000 in capital reductions. On the Q1 call, we lowered our CapEx forecast for the full year from $2,100,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 Today, we've indicated, as Jim has mentioned a couple times, that we are modulating our capital. We're being proactive as we see the volume softening and lowered another 100,000,000 dollars So we're currently at 1.9.
And the reductions have come in 3 general areas. The first area is in the unit cost and that's a very good news story because what Mike and the operating team has been able to do is in our maintenance of way area, they are reducing because we have more track time and some other efficiencies that they have come up with, the self constructed assets that we do on our right of way, they've got less labor cost per unit. They have also got slightly lower pricing on some of the materials. So the reductions there are in the unit cost. So they're putting in the same number of units that we had planned, but it costs less.
The next biggest grouping is in the locomotive area. Mike mentioned that we do a lot of our locomotive work in house. We have rebuilds that we had in the capital plan as the year went on and the volumes didn't come, we pulled out some of those rebuilds. So we have the flexibility to defer those and do them at a later year when we need the locomotives. And the third area is spread around all the various parts of the capital budget and that is where we've either been able to trim the costs, in some cases, in the materials costs or we've been able to defer it because the volumes haven't come.
An example of that would be parking at an intermodal terminal. So we might say we were going to expand parking, but we'll do it next year.
Okay. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Our next question comes from the line of John Larkin with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Yes. Good morning, everybody, and thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to focus in on intermodal a little bit, if that's okay. In your case, international freight looks a little better than domestic. That's kind of backwards relative to what we're seeing across the broader industry.
Is there any particular reason why your intermodal is up? You've apparently grabbed some market share there. Is that a service issue? Is that pricing, cost differential, just geographic franchise advantage? What's really driving that?
And then what's holding back the growth of domestic? Was it the service quality issues, which perhaps caused a bit of a market share loss? Are you gaining any of that market share loss back on the domestic side? Thanks.
John, the international is a story of our network reach and it's a story of a shift, although moderate, but continual from West Coast ports to East Coast ports. And certainly, our port partners on the East Coast feel that the widening of the Panama Canal will continue that progression. With respect to our domestic intermodal franchise, that has clearly been limited by surplus dry van capacity in the truck market and then high retail inventory levels. As both of those moderate, we'll continue to see we'll start to see growth in that network and our continued improvements in our service product are helping us convert from highway to rail.
Got it. Thank you very much for that. And then on the labor side, are there any major labor contract negotiations forthcoming here? And what would you expect labor cost fully loaded with fringes to inflate at here over the next couple of years?
I'll turn it over to Marta to comment on projected labor inflation. The entire industry, as you know, is engaged in collective bargaining over the terms of district wide agreements going forward. And we'll just have to see how that proceeds. Obviously, it's a protracted negotiation, it always is, particularly in an election year, though you tend to see that even more protracted than usual. Marta, what are you seeing in terms of labor inflation down the road?
So for this year, 2016, we guided to overall comp and benefits inflation, labor inflation of 3.5%. And that's a blend of wage inflation and medical inflation, which has been running quite high this year. For next year, it's still too soon to give a number, but we'll try to clarify that for you on the January call.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Our next question comes from the line of David Vernon with Sanford Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning and thanks for taking the question. Marta and Jim, I just want to try to get a sense for kind of what's between where we are today at a $200,000,000 annual run rate of productivity and the $600,000,000 that you've got in your longer term plan. I think I'm hearing you say Marta that expenses are going to be kind of flat to maybe sequentially up a little bit here in the back half. I'm just trying to get an understanding of what is it that is between us and that higher productivity number. Is it capital investment, system investments, labor?
And then maybe as a follow-up, are you thinking at all about maybe some more extensive co production with CSX and some of the lower density markets like coal, whether it's at the terminals or in the actual coal lines
up into the coal fields themselves?
So 6 months into a 5 year plan, we've made substantial progress on productivity and we're sticking to our 200,000,000 dollars projected annual savings this year, at least $200,000,000 So we're well on our way to the $650,000,000 by 2020. As you know, the components of that $650,000,000 are heavily weighted to compensation and benefit savings and that's a variety of elements. We have additional room to run-in terms of fuel consumption improvements. That's part of the long range plan. We'll continue to whittle away at locomotive maintenance costs.
That's another component of the plan. And reduced equipment cost is a 4th element where we still have opportunity. Now in terms of co production, anywhere it makes sense for us to share assets with others operationally, we will certainly be open to doing so. That's a way to improve asset utilization for both parties.
But maybe just as a follow-up to that, like as you think about going from that $200,000,000 to say $400,000,000 or whatever it's going to be on labor compensation, How important is the volume inflection to getting to that number? I mean, can you is there something you're going to do operationally or investment wise that's going to allow you to then run that much more productively in a year or 2? I'm just trying to get a sense for what the keys are to unlock that additional benefit. And I know it's an annual process where you're looking at ways to pull cost out. But is there anything that you can point to that says when we get here, this is going to help us run a lot more productively?
Certainly volume helps productivity. There's no doubt about it because of the incremental operating leverage inherent in the business. But the key to the plan is flexibility. And we believe that we can achieve these levels of productivity going forward. We recognize the plan is dynamic.
Volume conditions are changeable and we'll make the adjustments as necessary. If required, we'll go after deeper structural costs to achieve our goals.
All right. Well, thanks a lot for the time and good job so far as far as kind of getting the cost out. Talk to you soon.
Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Kauffman with Buckingham Research. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you very much. A lot of my questions have been asked, so let me just throw out a quick one. If I back out the fuel impact, it looks like revenue per unit was just a little bit less than flat. Can you break out the mix versus pricing component of that?
It is all mix, Jeff. If you take a look at the mix effect within coal, our export volumes trended more towards thermal coal than metallurgical coal. You take a look at within intermodal. And as we've talked about, domestic volumes were pressured. The TCS restructuring impacted RPU and international business has a lower RPU than us.
And then it take a deeper dive into our merchandise market and you can see declines in frac sand and crude oil pressuring overall RPU. So it was slightly down ex fuel, but it was all mix impact.
All right. If I back out the mix, what does core pricing look like, say, this quarter and relative to last quarter?
It's up this quarter over last quarter and it's up over the same quarter last year and it's up over rail inflation.
Okay. Hey, congratulations. Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Walter Spracklin with RBC. Please proceed with your
question. Just wanted to touch on a little bit broader topic of new technology that you might have coming down the pipe. I know in the past technological innovation like distributor power has led you to increase train lengths and some of the trip optimizer software has given you some pretty interesting fuel improvements. I guess the first part of that question, are we pretty much done now? I know you've talked a bit about train lengths and how there's still a little bit of opportunity, but it sounds like it's more product driven rather than technological driven and just correct me if I'm wrong there.
And the second part, is there anything in process for Mike, Mike, when you look down the pipe, is there anything that gets you excited in terms of technological improvements that could lead to some further cost savings? I know with in trucking, I mean, we're going as far as talking about autonomous trucks. Could we eventually see 1 person cruise that kind of thing? Just love to get your thoughts on that.
Yes. Well, on the run rate of the things you talked about, which is DP and the fuel efficiency we're using, we still have run rate to go there and we still continue to implement it across the railroad. So we still have some opportunities going forward. And as Jim noted on the fuel efficiency as part of our plan, that's a part of it. So yes, we feel like opportunity there.
On the technology side, I don't see that there's any one big thing that we're kind of hanging our head on, but I will tell you that we have technology embedded throughout our organizations on making us better, whether it's using alerts or using mobile platforms for the supervisors out in the field, things like that. We have just continued to utilize technology throughout our operational organization to make us safer and more efficient.
And on one person, Chris?
That's a big industry initiative and there's going to have to be a lot with the regulatory side there as well. Of course, we've got a lot of 1 person crews at our railroad now, whether it's pusher, whether it's remote control, but we work with the regulators on what are the opportunities there going forward in the industry.
All right. Thank you very much.
Thank you. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. Mr. Squires, I would now like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.
Well, thank you very much for attending today's conference call. And we'll be back to report on our Q3 results in a few months. Thank you.
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