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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

Nov 7, 2023

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the NETSOL Technologies Q1 2024 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Patti McGlasson, General Counsel. Thank you, Patti. You may begin.

Patti McGlasson
SVP of Legal and Corporate Affairs, NETSOL Technologies

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Following a review of the company's business highlights and financial results, we will open the call for questions. I will now provide the necessary cautions regarding the forward-looking statements made by management during this call. Please note that all the information discussed on today's call is covered under the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. The company's discussion may include forward-looking statements reflecting management's current forecast of certain aspects of the company's future, and our actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied. These forward-looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in NETSOL's press releases and SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. I would also like to point out that we will be discussing certain non-GAAP measures.

The press release issued earlier today contains a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial results to their most comparable GAAP measures. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this call will be recorded and made available for replay at www.netsoltech.com and via link available in today's press release. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Najeeb. Najeeb?

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Thank you, Patti, and good morning, everyone. We had a strong Q1 of 2024, which was highlighted by increases in total net revenues, improved gross margin, and profitability. Revenue grew in the Q1 due to solid performance across our business. Each of our three complementary revenue streams contributed meaningfully. Importantly, we recognized approximately $1.3 million in licensing revenues from Isuzu Motors, a multinational auto manufacturer based in Japan. Our goal going forward is to sign more licensing deals so that we can drive more consistent license revenue from quarter to quarter. In addition to the licensing fees, we also continue to see consistent revenue recognition from subscription and support or SaaS-based revenue, as well as our services revenue, which is generated after a licensing deal is signed. Also on display this quarter was the impact of increased cost discipline across the organization.

Cost containment remains a priority as we focus on freeing capital to allocate to our two most vibrant growth opportunities: the growth of our SaaS business and the penetration of the US market. Our expansion in the US continues to progress as we focus on staffing a new office in Austin, Texas, with the best talent available. Our goal with this facility is to aggressively expand NETSOL into the United States, which is a largely untapped market for us. In addition to organic growth in the US, we continue to carefully evaluate strategic acquisition opportunities in North America. We also now live with Otoz, our SaaS-based white label platform, providing long-term on-demand mobility models and retail solutions in 60 MINI Anywhere dealerships across 37 US states, demonstrating the demand of our SaaS products in this market.

On the business development front, we continue to see strong activity and remain focused on building a pipeline of potential licensing deals. In summary, we are very pleased with the results we delivered this quarter. Our performance reflects the earnings potential of the NetSol business model as we scale revenue. We are working diligently to drive more predictable revenue with additional licensing deals and continued expansion of our SaaS offerings, which we believe will drive improved and more consistent profitability and cash generation. I'll now turn the call over to Roger Almond, our Chief Financial Officer, to go over our financials from this quarter. Roger?

Roger Almond
CFO, NETSOL Technologies

Thanks, Najeeb. Our total net revenues for the Q1 of Fiscal 2024 were $14.2 million, compared with $12.7 million in the prior year period. On a constant currency basis, net revenues were $14.3 million. License fees were approximately $1.3 million, compared with $250,000 in the prior year period, and the same on a constant currency basis. Recurring revenue or subscription and support revenues for the Q1 were $6.5 million, compared with $6 million in the prior year period, and the same on a constant currency basis. Total services revenues for the Q1 were $6.4 million, compared with $6.4 million in the prior year period, and $6.5 million on a constant currency basis.

Total cost of revenues were $8.1 million for the Q1, compared to $8.5 million in the Q1 of fiscal year 2023. On a constant currency basis, total cost of revenues was $9.6 million. Gross profit for the Q1 fiscal 2024 was $6.2 million, or 43% of net revenues, compared with $4.3 million or 33% of net revenues in the prior year period. On a constant currency basis, gross profit was $4.7 million. Operating expenses for the Q1 were $5.8 million, or 41% of sales, compared to $6.1 million, or 48% of sales in the same period last year. On a constant currency basis, operating expenses for the Q1 were $6.4 million, or 45% of sales.

Turning to our profitability metrics, our GAAP net income attributable to NETSOL for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 totaled $31,000, or 0.003 cents per diluted share, compared with a GAAP net loss of $621,000, or a loss of 6 cents per diluted share in the Q1 of last year. Included in our net income this quarter was a loss of $134,000 on foreign currency exchange transactions, compared to a gain of approximately $1.3 million in the Q1 of last year. On a constant currency basis, we realized a loss of $174,000 on foreign currency exchange transactions. Because we operate in several geographical regions, a significant portion of our business is conducted in currencies other than the US dollar.

A decrease in the value of the US dollar compared to foreign currency exchange rates generally has the effect of increasing our revenues, but it also increases our expenses denominated in currencies other than the US dollar. Likewise, as the US dollar gains strength relative to foreign currency exchange rates, it tends to reduce our revenues, but it also reduces our expenses denominated in currencies other than the US dollar. Moving to our non-GAAP metrics. Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was $466,000, or $0.04 per diluted share, compared with a non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss of $28,000 or $0.002 per diluted share in the Q1 of last year.

Please see the reconciliation schedules contained in our earnings release for our revised calculations of Adjusted EBITDA for the quarters ending September 30, 2023 and 2022. Turning to our balance sheet. At quarter end, we had cash and cash equivalents of approximately $16.6 million, or approximately $1.46 per diluted common share. Total stockholders' equity at September 30, 2023, was $36.7 million or $3.22 per diluted share. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to Najeeb. Najeeb?

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Thank you, Roger. This was an excellent quarter for us. Our focus is on more consistently delivering solid revenue growth, maintaining cost discipline across the company, and executing on our strategy to drive our SaaS business and penetrate the US market. This is how we build long-term value for the shareholders. With that, I'd like to open the call up for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. One moment please, while we pull for questions. Thank you. Our first question is from Tyler Brewer with Stoneworks Capital. Please, please proceed with your question.

Tyler Brewer
Analyst, Stoneworks Capital

Yeah. Hey, thank you for taking my question. So I was just wondering, could you talk a little more about the long-term strategy for the US market and, you know, whether you think you can replicate some of the success you had overseas?

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Yeah. I think, it's a two-fold question. One is, of course, what are we doing now short term? As you heard in the presentation, we are very focused on driving business from our pretty strong pipeline across the globe. As you know, these license deals are high in value, but they also take time to close if we win this deal. So that is an ongoing process. In addition to that, our sales business, mobility is quite, I think, impressive for us, the way we look at it. The long term, I think I'd be - I feel, continue to invest in North America, which is our. We believe not only is it untapped market, but also it's a very strong and resilient market, for our business.

Given all the challenges across the globe, I feel both U.S. and China are very strong markets for us. I was personally there just recently and met with all the customers and our employees, and the environment is still very robust for our company. So I think in the long term, we feel that our growth will come from the U.S., North America, Canada and U.S. There's a lot of activities going on, given the new office. We will continue to invest in the new talent. We have been assembling some good people locally in all the key positions, because I think for us to make a solid name in the market and scale our business, we need to have a lot more new executive-level positions, so that we are not dependent on-...

People traveling regularly to, to U.S. from different countries. So we are now investing in building up our Austin, Texas, office with the right talent, both in the sales, marketing, and client relations. That is really, to me, is the future, because once we have a bigger scale and capability on site, everyone knows our customers and new prospect, that our amazing, dependency on our technology campus in Lahore, Pakistan, which is the state-of-the-art, supports our, our customers worldwide and never, never missed our deliveries commitment. So we're pretty confident for our future outlook long term, because investment in U.S., continued growth in the U.S., China, and also looking at many other markets in Mexico, which we have a lot of customers, and North America, of course, combining China and Canada. So I feel quite good about it, about the future outlook.

Tyler Brewer
Analyst, Stoneworks Capital

Got it. Thank you. Thanks, that's. Thank you for answering my questions, and congratulations on the quarter.

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Todd Felte with Aegis Financial. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Hey, congratulations on the return to profitability, and thank you for taking my questions.

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Sure, thank you.

Speaker 6

Just had a few here. First of all, do you expect the margins and profitability to continue? And are you still standing by, I believe it was the last quarterly conference call, you had estimated revenues for this year would be somewhere $60 million-$62 million. Are you still standing by that?

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Yes. So far, we are leaving as is, and the best time would be to formally update in the Q2, which will be half one, and we'll be in a better position to update or even improve the guidance. So I think now pretty feel pretty strong about it. Yes. And the profitability, it will is a function of, as you know, revenue. Our margins have improved to 43% this quarter versus almost 27 previous quarter. So it's a sign that we are becoming efficient. We have cut down costs across the company, but we're investing in the right people, the right talent, and the revenue growth is our number one focus, of course. And of course, all the key metrics. Of course, bottom line will be the result of how fast we grow the revenue and the gross margins.

Speaker 6

Okay, that's great to hear. And this is more of a general question, but as you're bidding for new customers, what % would you say of customers that you bid on for a software project, do you actually land?

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Well, that's a very good question. It's, I think some of our listeners or investors who've been following us for some time. We are in a very unique business, a very niche business. Few companies are in competing with each other. Some are very big, some are about the same scale as we are, whether we're in North America or Europe or Asia. I think, pipeline is we don't, we don't mention the pipeline. We have a robust pipeline, pretty large size. Some are, you know, we believe we can achieve some successes in near future. Some will take a bit more time. If I say, if you have 10 deals out there and we close 3 of them, that'll be the great day for the company because it is a tough competition, because it's very niche and few companies.

Secondly, I think we definitely are working diligently to improve our scale and capability in the U.S., which is again the very robust and strong market for us. And as we get stronger in the U.S., our chances to win U.S. business will get, will only get better.

Speaker 6

Okay. So if you land, you know, about 3 out of 10 of the contracts you bid on, what do you think is the number one reason why you don't land those other 7? Or what are the areas you're improving on? Is it—does it relate to this?

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

No, I think,

Speaker 6

Capabilities of your product?

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

I think, Todd, one thing for sure, like I said, whether investor long-term funds or our customers who know us well, our capabilities, our strengths, and our opportunities that we have, U.S. is the most challenging market, but also the most incredible market to work in, and we are working on it diligently. What happens is, in every RFP, we get invited at least five top companies, sometimes five to seven, and then, then we become shortlisted. In most cases, we do become shortlisted. Oftentimes, the contracts are really large in size and value. Then they prefer to look into U.S. company, which have very strong U.S. presence. And we understand that because these customers want to depend on the local... There's a company that got 70,000 employees, for example. I'm not going to share the name here, and we compete with them.

Sometimes we win over them, sometimes they win over us. In China, we have beaten them many times in the major contracts. So I think companies look for scale capability, but there are companies which are mid-sized, mid-tier company which is our right spot for us, and in most cases, we win them. So I think it's a mixed thing. Competition is good for us. It makes us better and stronger to be able to compete with the big, big guys. We have beaten many times, and we once won over SAP years ago in China because we were so strong in China, still are the number one company in China in this space. U.S. is a very big market.

We will do well in the coming three, five years, and positioning is the way that we get the right people, partners, joint ventures, and there's lots going on. Some I'm not in the liberty of sharing because they're not public information yet. As they become material, we'll, of course, disclose and share with the market. So overall, I'm very excited and bullish about the U.S. market.

Speaker 6

... Great, that's helpful. Then my last question is, I noticed the dramatic improvement in NetSol Pakistan, which I think you own over 60% of, but I've been looking at the minority interest or your, you know, non-controlling interest investments, and it seems like over the last year and a half, that's cost you about $4 million. Can you kind of discuss that and what your plans are? Because, you know, that, that's a lot of money to a company that's, you know, just now breaking into profitability.

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Okay, very good question. Look, NTI, the parent company, this company owns 67% of NetSol Pakistan, so minority interest is about 33%, of which I think mostly funds institutions. Some are my family ownership, which is not that much. We have more ownership in the parent company, the NTI. Secondly, I think, yes, it was a good quarter. Continuously, we are investing in Lahore because what happens is, as you know, AI is a new revolution, and or AWS and, and some other mobility platform. These are three very important new areas that we've been investing. We hired some MIT PhDs, and AI specialists. They're helping us develop some solutions.

We have built up some more scale in the AI side in the U.S. and in Lahore, Pakistan, because we want to provide proactively some part of the AI tools to our customers, because every customer eventually will embrace and adopt AI tools and technology. So we are, as small company as we are, we're still ahead of the curve because we don't want to be left behind, so we are investing in those areas. And then, of course, we continue to invest in the younger, new generation because some are being retired. We bring in new fresh blood in programming, new tools, equipped with all the digital and mobility platform. So there's lots going on. This company is, it's not only a technology company, but it also has vision for the innovation.

The last thing we want to be is left behind in the curve. This company is always ahead of the curve, making the investment in the right place, and that takes cash and investment and... But we are streamlining our headcount completely all over the globe, not just in Pakistan. So all in all, I feel very comfortable about our strategy. We will execute what we promised this year, and we'll get stronger and stronger in coming years.

Speaker 6

All right. Thank you for taking my questions. I'll hop, hop back to you. Thank you.

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Welcome. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the floor back over to Najeeb Ghauri for any closing comments.

Najeeb Ghauri
Chairman and CEO, NETSOL Technologies

Thank you for joining us today. I especially want to thank our investors for their continued support, our loyal customers, and our most dedicated employees worldwide for their ongoing contributions. We will look forward to updating our call, our earnings call, in the next call. Thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

Roger Almond
CFO, NETSOL Technologies

Najeeb Ghauri-

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