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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Aug 14, 2020

David Butters
Executive Chairman, Navigator Holdings

Thank you very much. Good morning, everyone, welcome to Navigator's second quarter earnings call. As we conduct today's conference call, we will be making various forward-looking statements. These statements include, but are not limited to, future expectations, plans, and prospects from both a financial and an operational perspective. These forward-looking statements are based on management assumptions, forecasts, and expectations as of today's date and are, as such, subject to material risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ significantly from our forward-looking information and financial forecasts. Additional information about these factors and assumptions are included in our annual and quarterly reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. This morning's speakers will include Harry Deans shortly, our Chief Executive Officer. That will be followed by Niall Nolan and Oeyvind Lindeman. Harry, why don't you pick up the phone from here?

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Perfect. Thank you, David, good morning to everyone on the call. I hope you're all well and keeping safe. It's now over 21 weeks since we took the decision to close our offices and to start running our business remotely from our home offices across the globe. Through necessity, we have become very proficient in virtual team working with town halls, meetings, and one-on-one catch-ups all taking place over the internet. Although we all miss the face-to-face interactions, we have become adept at sharing information via the many platforms at our disposal, while making sure we didn't lose the human touch. There has been a lot of laughter along the way, with numerous unscripted funny moments unwittingly captured on the video and audio conferences, which has helped keep morale high. Thankfully, the technology has worked exceptionally well, exceeding even the expectations of the least tech-savvy employees.

I want to pay tribute to the dedication, the dogged determination, and the boundless enthusiasm of our onshore team. Their hard work and never-say-never attitude has enabled our business to literally keep the lights on and to seamlessly ensure business as usual, much to the relief of our customers, our suppliers, and our seafarers. As a company, we're now about to emerge from this phase of the COVID-19 lockdown and to start to return to our company offices. In line with the prevailing government advice, we will therefore be reopening our offices from the 1st of September. Of course, these offices have been adapted to ensure adequate social distancing, and we have also implemented numerous hygiene measures to keep our colleagues safe. Our return will be a phased one with a Team A, Team B basis with staggered working hours to both reduce risk and also to maintain social distancing.

Thankfully, our key stakeholders won't even notice the change, and our technology will ensure our teams continue to interact seamlessly with each other, our customers, and our vessels. The economic reboot following the COVID-19 lockdown, although fragile and prone to some local setbacks, gained momentum in the quarter. Improved sentiment and business activity has continued into July and August, with the North American and European economies following the lead of China and Southeast Asia by relaxing their lockdowns in an attempt to kick-start demand and with it, manufacturing. All things being equal, this will provide a much-needed stimulus to the global economy. Both ethylene and propane arbitrage to Asia remained firmly open in the quarter with healthy pricing differentials, which has encouraged trade. Excess butane has also continued to move from Europe to Asia as producers attempt to export surplus material to maintain high cracker utilization rates.

I'm very pleased to report the business returned to profit in Q2, albeit with some favorable tailwinds on foreign exchange and the near breakeven performance of our terminal over the quarter. The Q2 net income of $3 million was our strongest performance since Q4 2016 and was the first profitable quarter for over 18 months. It was also a pleasant turnaround from the Q1 2020 results, where, albeit with considerable headwinds, we posted a loss of $8.2 million. Our underlying vessel performance also improved from Q1 to Q2 by $2.5 million, resulting in a net income of $700,000 for our shipping business. As you will see in the supplementary presentation, both our Q2 net revenue and EBITDA have improved, giving us the best second quarter results for a good number of years. Turning now to crew leave.

You may recall that on the Q1 call, I intimated that we had managed to relieve almost 300 crew. Thankfully, that number has risen substantially in the last few months, and we've been able to refresh over 75% or 380 of our overdue crew members, and we've been able to get them safely home. We continue to work hard to reduce the backlog and to ensure all our seafarers get the leave that they deserve and are reunited with their friends and family as quickly as humanly possible. The ever-changing local regulations, together with new or reinforced travel restrictions and the constant threat of flight cancellations, make this a bit of a Herculean task, but we are now making real inroads into the backlog. Throughout all of this uncertainty, our officers and crew have continued to traverse the globe, delivering much needed cargoes and thus keeping the global economy turning.

We continue to work hand in glove with flag states and classification societies, together, we resolve the many practical inspection and dry docking challenges that have been caused by the pandemic. It appears that the vital contribution of seafarers during the pandemic is slowly starting to be recognized by governments across the globe. I'm very pleased to announce that our Morgan's Point joint venture ethylene terminal has now exported over 200,000 t, with at least another 60,000 t expected to be moved in August. June was a record month, with a phenomenal volume of around 80,000 t being exported from the terminal. This is all the more remarkable when you consider that this has been achieved without the aid of our 60,000 cubic meter tank, which is currently under construction.

It goes without saying, but these volumes could not have been achieved without the close cooperation between Navigator Gas and our joint venture partners, Enterprise. Working closely together, we're able to optimize the throughput while ensuring that there were enough vessels at the right time, in the right place to maximize the ethylene cargoes. With increasing throughput has come improving margins, and I'm very pleased to announce that the terminal was profitable in June. It was really great to see the results of all our hard work now finally beginning to filter down to the bottom line. In the month of June, our mid-sized vessel, the Navigator Eclipse, also loaded a world record quantity of 20,000 t of ethylene from the terminal for delivery to Asia.

The terminal complex is working very well, and as you can see from the photograph in the supplemental information pack, construction of the ethylene tank is progressing safely, on time, and on budget, with start-up expected in Q4 this year. The June throughput of around 80,000 tons, which was achieved prior to the commissioning of the tank, has only added to our belief that our terminal will exceed today's capacity with ease in the future. Turning now to our Luna Pool. The Pool with Greater Bay Gas and Pacific Gas is now fully up and running. Live operations began in the second quarter, with all 14 vessels joining the Pool by the end of July. The Pool has been formed just at the right time to enable the partners to capitalize on the growing volumes of ethylene for export from our Morgan's Point terminal.

Utilization rates, which were running at mid-80% levels in February, March, and April, climbed in May and June to around the 90% mark. This utilization rate has been maintained in July, no doubt thanks to the Morgan's Point volumes, the healthy ethylene arbitrage, and a general increase in economic activity. Once again, handysize TC rates continue to be dramatically less volatile than other sectors and have been pretty resilient with only a marginal 5% reduction in rates within the quarter. The company continues to be prudent, reducing discretionary spend, deferring expenditure where possible, whilst minimizing working capital and CapEx to preserve cash and liquidity. This can be seen in our operating expenses, which are down in Q2, 3.5% year-on-year. Some of these gains, of course, will unwind over time as the increased cost of relieving the crew starts to filter through.

Niall, in his prepared remarks, will give you an update of our refinancing program, as we seek to further increase our liquidity and strengthen our balance sheet. All in all, Q2 was a satisfactory quarter for the company on many fronts, with improving utilization and profitability. Navigator's leadership in the niche handysize shipping segment, coupled with the versatility and flexibility of our fleet, has ensured that our business has to date been able to successfully navigate the choppy conditions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Our segment has not been subject to the wild swings in rates which we have observed in other sectors. As expected, the start-up of the world's largest ethylene terminal has had an immediate impact, stimulating new fuel through ethylene export volumes, which is a real win-win for Navigator Gas.

The onset of the terminal take-or-pay contract in June, together with the incremental spot business, should ensure the terminal remains profitable going forward. That, combined with our shipping business, which is also in great shape, will ensure the company is well-placed to capitalize from increasing economic activity when the upswing occurs. With those few remarks, I'd like to hand you over to our CFO, Niall Nolan. Niall?

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

Thank you, Harry, and good morning. The company generated profits, as Harry mentioned, of $3 million for the second quarter, which is a significant turnaround from the $8.2 million loss incurred during the first quarter of this year, and the $7.7 million loss for the comparative second quarter of 2019. This $3 million quarterly profit of net income includes a $2.5 million gain on foreign currency translations as both the Norwegian krone and the Indonesian rupiah strengthened relative to the US dollar during the quarter, reversing some of the COVID-19-related exchange losses incurred in the first quarter. In addition, the marine export ethylene terminal at Morgan's Point in Houston generated a loss for the quarter of $200,000, being our share of the results of the export terminal joint venture.

However, with the commencement of the long-term take-or-pay contract at the beginning of June, the terminal had a throughput during that month of approximately 80,000 t and consequently generated a profit, although not sufficient to overcome the losses of the prior two months. It is anticipated, however, that the terminal will remain profitable for the remainder of this year. This resulted in a profit relating to our vessels for the second quarter 2020 of $700,000, again, which is a marked improvement from the $1.8 million loss generated during the first quarter. The operating revenue from the vessels was $79.9 million for the three months, an increase of $6.3 million from the $73.6 million generated during the second quarter of 2019.

Net revenue after deducting pass-through voyage costs was $65.1 million for the second quarter versus $63.7 million for the first quarter of this year and $57.1 million for the second quarter of 2019. This increase was in part as a result of average charter rates increasing to $21,600 per day, up from $20,855 per day for the first quarter of this year, and $19,940 per day during the comparative second quarter of 2019. As we mentioned on the last earnings call associated with the first quarter's results, vessel utilization was increasing during the second quarter, with April still in the mid-80% levels, largely as a consequence of COVID-19, but with the subsequent months of May and June increasing to around the 90% levels. Consequently, the average for the three months of the second quarter was 88.3%, an increase of the 85.2% achieved during the second quarter of 2019.

You may have noticed a new item on our income statement this quarter with references to pool collaborative arrangements in both operating revenue of $2.6 million and voyage costs of $2.9 million. This is the GAAP-required accounting treatment for reflecting the sharing of pool revenue based on pool points. The net effect of this during the second quarter, following the commencement of the pool on April 1st, is that our vessels contributed $300,000 to the other participants in the Luna Pool during the quarter. During the first six months, the company undertook only three dry dockings, principally as a result of yard closures associated with the impact of COVID-19. However, many dry dockyards have now reopened, and we've undertaken a further three dry dockings since the end of the second quarter, with the third, Navigator Brave, currently in dry dock.

That leaves the final four vessels requiring dry dock prior to the end of this year. These dry dockings, including the fitting of ballast water treatment systems where necessary, are estimated to cost approximately $12 million in aggregate as previously budgeted, but no anticipated increase as a result of yard closures or other effects of COVID-19. Vessel operating expenses were $26.5 million for the second quarter or $7,661 per vessel per day, a decrease of 3.5% from the $27.4 million or $7,938 per day incurred in the comparative second quarter of 2019. This is a result of stringent control of costs during these challenging times, but also as a consequence of some costs being deferred until later in the year, such as costs associated with crew changes due to the difficulty in arranging international flights as a result of COVID-19.

General and admin costs decreased by 13% to $4.5 million during the three months ending June 3rd, 2020. This decrease largely relates to the reversal of foreign exchange losses on the revaluation of an Indonesian rupiah bank account that we incurred during the first quarter. Interest costs for the second quarter were $11.1 million, an 8.9% decrease or $1 million decrease from the $12.2 million incurred in the second quarter of 2019, and also a decrease from the interest cost of $11.5 million incurred during the first quarter. This is as a result of reductions to US LIBOR, which has now fallen from approximately 2.38% a year ago to just 0.36% in June this year. The share of result of equity accounted joint venture, also known as the result from the ethylene terminal, generated, as I mentioned, a small loss of $200,000.

As I mentioned at the outset, with a profit in June almost fully offsetting those losses of April and May. I also mentioned a couple of moments ago that during this quarter, $2.5 million of the $3.7 million of COVID-related foreign exchange losses incurred during the first quarter were reversed in the second quarter. Net income for the second quarter was therefore $3 million, as Harry mentioned, the first quarterly profit since the third quarter of 2018 and the largest profit for over three years. At June 30th, the cash stood at $53.1 million against our maximum liquidity covenant of $43.1 million. We had a further $8.2 million as restricted cash supporting a cross-currency interest rate swap relating to our Norwegian kroner bonds.

Since the quarter end, as a result of further strengthening of the Norwegian kroner versus the US dollar, this restricted cash has reduced to $1.1 million as of this morning. Since the quarter end, we have entered into an agreement to amend the terminal credit facility to allow an early true-up of $34 million, enabling those funds to be immediately drawn for general corporate purposes. This followed a capital contribution of $7.5 million to the export terminal joint venture during the second quarter and a further $7.5 million since the quarter end, both fully funded by drawdowns from the credit facilities.

The total amount available on this credit facility based on the offtake agreement is now agreed at $69 million, and with $49 million drawn or currently available to be drawn, this leaves $20 million available to cover the remaining capital commitments to the export terminal joint venture, which we believe to be less than $10 million. Once the storage tank is completed and in service by the end of this year, any remaining undrawn portion of that loan will be released for general corporate purposes. Thereafter, the loan will convert from a construction loan to a five-year term loan. We are also in the process of refinancing one of our vessel loan facilities, which is anticipated to provide an additional cash draw of approximately $30 million.

This amount, coupled with the $34 million immediately available from the terminal facility and the further release of restricted cash, will provide increased liquidity headroom of approximately $70 million in addition to the $10 million headroom at June 30th. We expect the vessel loan facility to be in place by the end of this third quarter. At June 30th, total debt stood at approximately $860 million. As previously stated, the company does not have any debt facilities maturing until 2022, except for our $100 million Norwegian bond maturing in February of next year. We are currently assessing the capital markets for a potential refinance of this bond and are in the process of engaging financial advisors to investigate such opportunities, as well as considering alternatives in the event that the capital markets are not available or not receptive. With that, I'll hand you over to Oeyvind.

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

Thank you, Niall, and good morning, everyone. The second quarter highlights were all associated to petrochemical demand. As we mentioned during last earnings call, the COVID-19 lockdowns around the world continued from March into April, with utilization hovering around the mid-80% level. With Asian countries beginning to ease regulations starting from May onwards, we did experience a pickup in demand. European petrochemical producers were still running their naphtha crackers during the same period, resulting in excess products such as butadiene, which were then subsequently shipped long haul on handysize semi-refrigerated ships all the way to Asia to satisfy the pickup in demand. The same fundamentals were seen for propylene, with excess production in North America finding a home across the Pacific, resulting in employment of handysize tonnage for deep-sea voyages.

At the same time, with demand picking up primarily in China, Korea, Taiwan, and Indonesia, the ethylene landed price in this region went from an all-time low of $300 a ton in April to a more normalized level around $800 a ton going from May into June. A huge upswing. The U.S. domestic ethylene prices remained at a competitive price point, ranging between $250-$300 a ton during the same period, and therefore enabling arbitrage opportunities for ethylene exports. Export ethylene in any meaningful volume could only be facilitated with new terminal capacity. This new capacity came in the form of our marine export terminal. It started ramping up throughout from mid-May onwards, and indeed, as you heard, everyone's expectations when it enabled exports of approximately 80,000 t during the month of June.

60% of all ethylene shipped from the United States of America during the month of June, including from the Targa terminal, were lifted on Navigator-controlled tonnage. During the same month, our medium-sized ethylene vessel, Navigator Eclipse, safely and successfully loaded and carried to date the largest single cargo of ethylene of 20,000 t from our terminal to receivers in Taiwan. Now, the knock-on effect of the ramping up of the marine export terminal should not be ignored. Handysize ethylene vessels, which were trading in LPG or propylene or butadiene in the past, are now generally employed in the ethylene trade, thereby reducing available tonnage capacity from the semi-refrigerated part of the handysize fleet.

Despite huge uncertainties and fluctuations across the world economy brought about by the pandemic, the handysize quoted 12-month charter rates, as you heard from Harry, only reduced by 5% during the period to around $625,000 a month. It is vastly different compared with, for example, very large gas carriers having their quotations fallen by more than 50% in the same time frame. The resilience in the handysize rates can be attributed to one simple fundamental reason, and that is flexibility across all the gas cargoes in LPG, petrochemicals, and ammonia. The Luna Pool swung into action during the ramping up of the terminal and is a contributing factor to our increasing market share of American ethylene exports. The pool better enables us to be in the right place at the right time, offering flexibility and reliability to our customers, utilizing the full platform of 14 vessels.

Ethane has still a role to play for Navigator. U.S. ethane remains price competitive to other feedstocks in the production of ethylene. This is due to continued robust natural gas liquids production in North America. We reported two of our four medium-sized ethane ethylene carriers have contracted additional ethane employment, meaning that ethane, as part of our earnings portfolio, is set to increase. Having additional vessels in ethane trades has similar positive knock-on effects to the non-ethylene capable segments, in that the tonnage supply for LPG and other petrochemicals is reduced. For example, when one of our medium-sized ethylene carriers are carrying ethane instead of ethylene, it means that the 20,000 t of ethylene cargo will have to sit on two handysized vessels, which in turn has positive impact to utilization earnings for that segment.

Going forward, we are relatively comfortable with the outlook for ethylene considering the performance of the marine export terminal during the pre-tank phase, prevailing arbitrage for U.S. ethylene, majority of demand pulled in from Asia, which means deep-sea voyages, and our rising market share of ethylene exports from America made possible through additional pool vessels. A home run should be possible when the LPG steps into the handysize space. What will make a real difference is the anticipated effect from project-specific additional LPG demand from the Tano and Pembina rail to ships export terminals, as outlined as part of the earnings call information pack. Incremental handysized LPG demand should have a meaningful impact on utilization earnings to the segment, in addition to what we are seeing today in the ethylene market. With that, I will hand over to David.

David Butters
Executive Chairman, Navigator Holdings

Thank you, Oeyvind, Harry, and Niall. L.A., why don't you open up the call now to Q&A, please?

Operator

Thank you. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, If you'd like to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone keypad, and you just need to wait until you hear your name announced. If you would like to cancel press star and zero. Star or one to ask your question. Your first question comes from the line of Ben Nolan from Stifel. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

David Butters
Executive Chairman, Navigator Holdings

Hi, Ben.

Ben Nolan
Analyst, Stifel

Okay, great. Hey, guys, this is Ben. I have a couple of, could have more, but I'll try to not overstay my welcome here. My first question, congratulations on the terminal. Obviously, it is going probably better even than it was supposed to. Good news for the cash flows, good news for the ships, and good news for everything. At this point, sounds like almost all the CapEx is done. Maybe there will be an expansion and requirement for a little bit more CapEx. My question really is bigger picture. Now that is out of the way, the debt refinancing looks like it should be pretty well on hand. I know that the stated objective for you guys has been to look to marry up more of these infrastructure-related projects or developments with your shipping expertise.

I'm curious, fundamentally, and I guess right now, with everything being wrapped up, it's the perfect time to start looking at some of those longer-dated development opportunities. How do you think about that? What's your pitch? What's your angle? Where are you in terms of being able to really bring something to bear and further projects like this going forward?

David Butters
Executive Chairman, Navigator Holdings

Harry, why don't you take that one?

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Okay, no problem. Hi, Ben. How are you doing?

Ben Nolan
Analyst, Stifel

Yeah, good.

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

Yeah, good. Ben, I know you said the terminal is all wrapped up. I wish it was so. We've got a tank still to build, as you saw. It's making great progress, and it's on time and on budget, and it's being done safely. Equally, as we saw from the June numbers, we've actually been able to collect the assets better than we thought. For me, the best key bottleneck is a free key bottleneck. We really don't know what the terminal is actually capable of until we get that tank fully up and running. All the signs are pointing in the right direction, given the throughput that we managed to squeeze through without the tank.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

It's a win-win for everybody because you dilute your fixed costs and the money just drops to the bottom line. Our focus at the moment is to make sure that we complete the job that we've got in hand, which is the tank, and that we deliver it safely, on time and on budget, and we see what's under the hood in that tank. I think there's a lot more there to give as we'll prove in June. I think that's the first thing. In terms of the rest of the business, it's sort of steady as she goes at the moment. Niall talked about how we've got a dry docking schedule. It's pretty heavy in the second half of the year. We know there's a lot of potential tailwinds that could be there.

No one knows what's going to happen with COVID, whether it's going to resurface again. There's a lot of tailwinds for us as well because, as Oeyvind said, the terminals are starting to open, and that should be a real opportunity for us going forward. In terms of new opportunities, we'll assess them in light of the other options that we have available to us, and we'll do the things that give us the best bang for our buck going forward.

Ben Nolan
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. It doesn't sound like we should be expecting there to be any major new, completely out-of-the-blue development anytime imminently at FGS.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

I think that's right.

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

That's right, Ben. We're working hard. It's like a swan. We're pedaling hard underneath the surface and looking at lots of different opportunities. At the moment, we're focused on what's in hand.

David Butters
Executive Chairman, Navigator Holdings

You're absolutely right to raise that question, Ben, because this terminal that we have in joint venture with Enterprise isn't the end. It's just an integral part of a greater hub system of exporting the important and inexpensive petrochemical hydrocarbons being generated in the United States as a result of low gas prices. This is just a small piece of that, and we have tried to partner with the people who control a lot of that hub at the moment. That is Enterprise, particularly, and then global network. Well, their network within the United States connected by almost every petrochemical plant, especially ethylene plants. That is just the beginning. Their hub is being built up gradually but inevitably to create a greater flow of hydrocarbons, particularly petrochemical gases, to the international market. This is a whole new thing that has never really gotten off the ground in the past.

It is in its beginning phase. Our terminal is just a small part, but our participation will grow as that grows. We have to clear through this pandemic and understand what this fog of virus is and understand where the economies of the world are going and where to place the ultimate hydrocarbon. It's there, it's delicious, it's ours to have, and we will get it eventually. We have nothing at the moment that is worthy of discussion at today's conference call.

Ben Nolan
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Now switching topics a little bit maybe for Oeyvind. Obviously, you'd laid out the ethylene arbitrage. I did notice that ethane prices are increasing. I believe that there is a new ethane export terminal scheduled to come online pretty soon in Texas. First of all, do you think that there's a risk that ethane prices were to rise materially in the United States with more being exported? How does that play into the dynamic for ethylene exports out of the United States, do you think?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

Yeah, it's a good question, Ben. All the forecasts on the exports on liquid gas production, that's obviously gas liquid production in the U.S. are predicting, forecasting excess production on that even during this time and also going forward. They have a lot of rejections going on whereby they're putting the ethane back into the natural gas stream. There's a lot of excess ethane in the system. Even with this new Orbit terminal being constructed and completed at Q4, I think, of this year in Nederland by Energy Transfer Partners, there's a hell of a lot of remaining excess ethane.

If the price forecast even after Q4 remains low, and if the local domestic market's tight, and we're thinking that ethane price is going to go high, rise because of the ethane export, and you're probably seeing effects of that today because it's a known quantity and it's a known infrastructure purchase. We are pretty comfortable in that ethane will remain competitive. The cost curve for American ethylene producers will remain competitive towards other areas of the world, and therefore, ethylene should remain competitive. You're right. You will have these monthly price adjustments, as you're seeing right now on ethylene in the U.S. It's not so much about ethane, it's about some shutdown, some maintenance, unforeseen maintenance on various crackers.

You can buy ethylene at $300 a ton. It is now $380 a ton, which is still pretty competitive to Asian prices today at $760. We remain confident that ethane will be in excess, therefore the gas price will be competitive, therefore ethylene will be competitive.

Ben Nolan
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. No, that was perfect and thorough, and I appreciate it. Last one for me real quickly, and I'll turn it over to Oeyvind. We've seen a number of semi-refrigerated vessels that have capacity to do both ethylene, LPG obviously, and then in some cases, LNG. I don't know that you guys have any that can do LNG, but have seen some of those ships move into the LNG trade as there's been a real proliferation of small-scale LNG. Could you maybe talk through how you see that playing out from a supply and demand perspective for the ships and, is that something that you guys would look potentially to become involved in?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

It's always good to see ethylene-capable vessels that is also LNG-capable going to the LNG trade because it reduces the pool of available ethylene ships or any handysize ships. That number of vessels that can do natural gas as well is very limited. There's a series of eight ships controlled by ENEOS, and as far as I am aware, one or two of those vessels have entered into the LNG trade. For Navigator's core business, that is a good thing. In terms of small-scale LNG, that's been around for a long time, and you could probably go small-scale LNG conferences every week of the year, and there's a lot of talk. Some projects are happening, some have been implemented. There's probably going to be more of that going forward in terms of hub-and-spoke distribution for LNG to various islands and small ports.

We, being gas experts and know all petrochemical gas and how to handle that and so forth, we think natural gas is pretty easy and straightforward. There's no change in upgrade. It's really a hub service. Our expertise lends itself for that. For the time being, we are very much focusing on the more complex side of the gas shipping and maritime business and linking that with the shore infrastructure we have to focus on where the real growth is and the real potential, as David mentioned, in terms of being heavily involved in emerging petrochemical processing in the U.S. and helping the export of olefins derivatives to the world.

Ben Nolan
Analyst, Stifel

Perfect. I appreciate it all. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Sean Morgan from Evercore. Please go ahead.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Hey, guys. The Morgan's Point terminal, you guys were guiding towards, I think, 45,000 t per month as of June, and you did 80,000. Previously, you talked I think about 1 million tons per year. At that run rate, that's without the refrigeration storage capacity you talked about. Are we now looking at potentially a higher eventual run rate for the capacity of this facility than what you previously talked about?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

The tanks for the implementation of the tank increases not the volume, but it increased the throughput, but it increases the loading space. The jetties would be more efficient. Instead of loading a handysize today, taking three to four days, with the tanks, you load a handysize in less than a day. It's easier to schedule for the schedulers on the jetty and the customers once you have the tank. Again, the throughput volume won't change. You're right, that the performance at the terminal beat everybody's expectations, and I think that goes to what Harry has been mentioning the last two or three earnings calls that we're not completely done with this terminal, and it's important to look under the hood and see what it's capable of. No promises, but the first signs are very encouraging.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Okay.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Sean, it's Harry here. I think the fact that we moved close to 80,000 t is a great sign. We said many calls that engineers often build in excess capacity into infrastructure. It's our job to find the right tunes to play on the infrastructure to make sure that we utilize that. It is a good sign that we're going to exceed the 1 million tons capacity. Of course, you need things to go your way. You've got to make sure there's no jetty congestion. You've got to make sure the temperature, the ambient temperature is correct. There's really positive signs that this terminal is going to have an increased capacity. It's told us all before.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Okay. If you were able to do 80,000 in June, then should we think with the efficiency of loading at this new storage tank that the 1 million tons per annum is somewhat conservative? Also, does that have an impact on the profitability that we talked about in the past? I think the guidance was around $25 million. Does that potentially improve when you're hitting these volume levels faster than you anticipated?

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Sean, yeah. I like what you're doing. I did the same calculation myself. I think we have to wait until we get the tank up and running and just see what we can do. You don't do it just for one month, you've got to do it day in, day out on a 98% reliability basis. There's great signs that this terminal will be able to put more volume through it. Let's wait until we get there and see what we can really do. Again, it's dependent on other things like ambient temperature as well. Great signs so far that we'll be able to hype it out of the park, to use Oeyvind's analogy.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Okay. I know in the Luna Pool, you guys touched on in the presentation that it's really an accounting reason that you're now separating out the revenue and the voyage costs separately. If it started ramping in April and throughout the quarter to June, it just struck me as a little, I guess, optically weird that the voyage cost exceeded the allocation of revenues. Can you just maybe help us understand how that will change when it's fully ramped, and also if that accounting anomaly is going to persist?

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

Let me try and explain that. It's really depending on what each of the ships are doing and based on pool points which are not dissimilar across the fleet within the pool. Because the ships came in at different times during this second quarter, the pool came into action, you do have a bit of an anomaly coming on whereby essentially, the Navigator ships gave $330,000 to the other pool participants. If the charter rates on the other pool participant ships were higher than the Navigator ships, you would see that flow the other way. It can go one way or the other. It's really the net effect that is relevant. It shouldn't be significantly different either way. You will get quarter by quarter slight shifts one way or the other.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Okay. In the pool, that'll eventually work itself out.

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

Yeah.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Even out in the long run.

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

Yeah.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Okay. That's all.

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

It's a pretty small number in a volatile quarter, volatile in the sense that with ships coming in at different times to start up the pool, a $330,000 imbalance is pretty negligible in the scheme of things. You're right, it'll balance out to zero at the end of the day.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Sean, the other thing that we've got, the other thing we had in the pool side was we actually had a management fee that reduced that disparity even more, to be honest. The best thing about the pool is that we get access to more ethylene vessels, so we can participate in the upside without putting a single $0.01 into a new vessel or new steel into the shipyard or in the water. The pool allows us to participate in that upside for ethylene coming from our own joint venture terminal, which is sweet.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

Oh, okay. That was in part the thinking was you can ramp up your ability to service your own terminal now that you knew that it was coming online.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Correct.

Sean Morgan
Analyst, Evercore

That makes sense. Thanks a lot. I'm going to turn it over.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Omar Nokta from Clarksons Platou. Please go ahead.

Omar Nokta
Analyst, Clarksons Platou

Hi. Hey, guys. Thank you. I was actually going to just ask maybe about the Luna Pool, and you gave a pretty good overview. Is the idea really to use those 14 vessels on a line to work out of the ethylene terminal, or will they be trading a bit more worldwide?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

I'll start. The vessels of the pool will go where the money is. Right now it's associated with ethylene and particularly with the terminal because suddenly we have incremental supply of ethylene that needs tonnage. The global footprint of the pool is there because the voyages we do in ethylene are quite long. Most of them, I think bar one or bar two, are trading ethylene today. The other two are doing ethane. All are doing C2 related trades, which we need this ethylene capability for, which is great, because they're not impinging on the semi-refrigerated ships, which we mentioned in the remarks. It's a global pool. It just happens that most of the voyages tend to the U.S.

Omar Nokta
Analyst, Clarksons Platou

Great. Thank you. Yeah, sorry. No, that's helpful. The

It's been a while since we've seen you guys enter into long-term charter, and you entered into the three-year TC on one of your ethane ships. You've got another one for a year plus.

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

Yeah.

Omar Nokta
Analyst, Clarksons Platou

They're both carrying ethane from your filing. How do you think about potential employment opportunities for some of the other vessels? I know you just got the three-year contract, do you see opportunities for more along these lines?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

I believe so because of the fact, it goes to Ben's first question about the competitiveness of U.S. ethane, the production of ethane there. At an ethane conference many years ago, the presenter was aliking ethane to the zombie, so it was neither dead nor alive. That happens with ethane. In periods, it's very active and people commit to long-term contracts because ethane is a feedstock at the end of the day. It lends itself to structured deals, not spot. Then it turns back to the dead form, and now it's back again. It's relating to also what Ben mentioned, that there are infrastructure projects happening in the U.S. that are coming for commissioning, and suddenly, world petrochemical or global petrochemical producers can now start to eye or see more supply coming from the U.S. because there's more terminal capacity. It ebbs and flows.

There's not a spot market, per se, structural move, and that's how you can see what happens now with a longer-term contract on one of our mid-size ships.

Omar Nokta
Analyst, Clarksons Platou

Got it. Thank you. Maybe just on the terminal, the ethane terminal. Do you have a sense of what percentage of that will actually be ethylene versus ethane? Is it predominantly going to be ethylene? Is there any ethane that will be coming out of the terminal?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

The ethane part of the terminal is not part of the joint venture. That is entirely 100% Enterprise. The particularity there is that there are two jetties, and both of the jetties can load ethane and ethylene. It lends itself to a beautiful situation whereby ships can co-load, at the same place, ethylene and ethane if the ship is capable. So far, at least for the Luna Pool and the Navigator ships, we have loaded full cargo of ethylene, but co-loading is possible.

Omar Nokta
Analyst, Clarksons Platou

I see. Okay, great. That's it for me. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Randy Giveans from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

How are you, gentlemen? How's it going?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

Good, thanks.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Having fun. Thank you.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

Great. It's great to see the terminal ramping faster than expected. You said 80,000 in June. I heard you say 60,000 in August. Assuming somewhere in between in July. I guess, how frequent are you seeing loading currently, and more importantly, following June's profitable month, what are your profit expectations for the terminal in the third quarter?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

I can answer the first question on ethylene loading. We are working with Enterprise every day, 24/7, to optimize those two jetties. Obviously, our interest is for ethylene. To have a ship there at every single hour of the day, 30 or 31 days of the month, in order to maximize the throughput. In between, in July and August, there has been some issues with the lightning storms in Houston, which I am sure, Randy, you are very familiar with.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

Yes

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

which impacts wasteful matters, which, safety first. There's also conditioning and other things going on with the tank and the various maintenance and so forth. It's not the volume during those two months, isn't so much that we weren't able to have a ship on the dock, but it's relating to other factors.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

I'll let any of you answer the next part.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Niall, do you want to take that?

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

Sorry, the profitability-

Profitability, yeah.

of the terminal going forward. I think it's going to be consistent with June. We're expecting throughput, notwithstanding what Oeyvind said, of about 70,000 t per month of both July and August. September is unknown just yet. We would expect a profit of above $1 million per month for Q3.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

Perfect. All right. I know Omar was mentioning some of the charters which were, yeah, a good sign there on the ethane side. Any updates for charters out of the ethylene terminal?

Oeyvind Lindeman
Chief Commercial Officer, Navigator Holdings

On the ethylene side, we have some existing contracts, and if you read the earnings release, that the terminal is popping up on spot cargoes.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

Right

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

Trying to navigate through the Luna Pool is engaged in, and also trying to follow the upside on the spot market, which obviously we're in a very good position to do because we have more ships through the pool. There's a mix there.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. Okay. I guess last question, probably the biggest, about the $100 million bond due in 2021. You had the $34 million in the amended terminal facility that increased the liquidity there. You have an upcoming refinancing for hopefully another $30 million. With the $64 million in liquidity plus ideally some free cash over the next six months, do you think you'll have to refinance the entire $100 million senior unsecured bond, or are you expecting a partial refinancing of that note?

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

I think given the current circumstances or the uncertainty surrounding COVID-19, it would be wise to keep as much liquidity headroom as we possibly can. Preference would be to refinance the full amount. Given the amount of headroom, and we could have $120 million of cash against a $40-odd million liquidity requirement, it is possible that we could have a lesser amount or refinance a lesser amount. I think in the current climate, we would be wise to, at least in the first instance, refinance the full amount.

Randy Giveans
Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. Okay. Well, hey, that's it for me. All right, keep it going.

David Butters
Executive Chairman, Navigator Holdings

Yeah. We're approaching the 10 o'clock hour, so unless there's another question, we can wrap it up today.

Operator

We do have one more question. It comes from Jay Mintzmyer from Value Investor's Edge. Please go ahead.

Jay Mintzmyer
Analyst, Value Investor's Edge

Hi, good morning, gentlemen. Thanks for squeezing me in here. I'll make this one quick. We had a good discussion just previous from Randy about the unsecured bond. We've seen in the pipeline and the energy infrastructure area, interest rate costs have just plummeted, right? We've seen a lot of MLPs and such refinancing 5%, 6%, 7% unsecured debt at 1% or 2% debt. I understand shipping always gets kind of discriminated against in the debt markets. Have you seen those costs coming down as of yet? Do you think you can secure a lower interest rate cost? Any idea what the current kind of spreads are?

Niall Nolan
CFO, Navigator Gas

I think the spreads are still on the slightly high side. There is some potential cost saving, but it's not material from where this bond is currently at.

Jay Mintzmyer
Analyst, Value Investor's Edge

It's unfortunate. You have one of the most exciting infrastructure assets in the Eastern Seaboard, hopefully that'll start to gain some attention. Final question. You've done a great job. You have 95% take-or-pay on the first phase. The June performance was excellent. We're looking forward to that [the tank]. What does it take? How many more customers lining up does it take for you to step forward onto some sort of a phase II?

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

That's a very good question, Jay. Again, today, we don't fully understand what we can do with that asset, and we believe there's lots of room there to squeeze more out of the asset and fully utilize it with 3D bottlenecks. We'll take it one day at a time, but if Philip want to come and knock on our door, then, of course, we'll have discussions.

Jay Mintzmyer
Analyst, Value Investor's Edge

All right. Hopefully a 2021 topic. Thank you, gentlemen.

Harry Deans
CEO, Navigator Gas

Thank you.

David Butters
Executive Chairman, Navigator Holdings

Thank you. Well, thank you all for joining us this morning, and we look forward to our third quarter conference call in a few months. Thank you again.