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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Feb 9, 2023

Operator

Welcome to News Corp's Q2 Fiscal 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. Media will be allowed on a listen-only basis. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Michael Florin, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you very much, operator. Hello, everyone, welcome to News Corp's Fiscal Q2 2023 Earnings Call. We issued our earnings press release about 30 minutes ago, and it's now posted on our website at newscorp.com. On the call today are Robert Thomson, Chief Executive, and Susan Panuccio, Chief Financial Officer. We will open with some prepared remarks, and then we'll be happy to take questions from the investment community. This call may include certain forward-looking information with respect to News Corp's business and strategy. Actual results could differ materially from what is said. News Corp's Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filings identify risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ and contain cautionary statements regarding forward-looking information. Additionally, this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measurements such as total segment EBITDA, adjusted segment EBITDA, and adjusted EPS.

The definitions and GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations of such measures can be found in the earnings release for the applicable periods posted on our website. With that, I'll pass over to Robert Thomson for some opening comments.

Robert Thomson
CEO, News Corp

Thank you, Mike. The Q2 produced challenges for some of our businesses and highlighted the progress made in other segments that had been challenged. Obviously, a surge in interest rates and persistent inflation had an impact on all of our businesses, but in particular, digital real estate and book publishing, which remains a majority physical business and continues to be subject to logistical exigencies. We believe these challenges are more ephemeral than eternal, and just as our company passed the stress test of the pandemic with record profits, the reforms now underway at our businesses should create a solid platform for future profitability. Crucially, we will be reducing headcount across the company by 5%. That is a necessary response given these macro conditions.

There are other broader trends that will inevitably be auspicious, such as our evolving partnerships with major tech platforms and the incipient changes to the digital advertising market, which should enable us to improve yields for our valuable inventory and have more oversight of permission data. At the same time, we are absolutely focused on reducing costs across our businesses and making price adjustments where prudent. We are continuing to work on the integration of our recent acquisitions, OPIS and CMA, which are already enhancing revenue and profits at Dow Jones. As for our discussions over the potential sale of Move, we will provide an update at the appropriate moment. Obviously, any potential deal would be designed to maximize value for our shareholders in the short and long term.

Looking now at the Q2 of fiscal year 2023, we generated over $2.5 billion in revenues, representing a decline of 7% year-over-year, though most of that was due to foreign currency. Adjusted revenues were down only 3%. Profitability was $409 million compared to $586 million in the prior year, reflecting the challenges of interest rates and inflation noted earlier, and the impact of fickle Forex movements, which have shown signs of abating in recent weeks. Even in the midst of the obvious global challenges I've described, Dow Jones had a solid quarter, and the professional information business displayed particular promise, with revenue surging 45% year-over-year.

The result highlights the value of our opportunistic acquisition of OPIS and CMA, where we have recently launched products, including carbon credit indices, and are working on more sophisticated analytics for our growing customer base. Risk and compliance again reported strong revenue growth, increasing 13% despite capricious currency trends, with the demand for know-your-customer tools expanding as governments globally continue to tighten regulations and wield sanctions. The imperative for an authoritative audit trail has expanded far beyond financial institutions. The credibility that Dow Jones brings is in itself an important factor for many companies. Is there anyone on this call who does not want to minimize risk and maximize compliance? Dow Jones has begun to roll out a new user interface for the Aladdin's Cave content that is Factiva, which is an essential tool for serious businesses.

The truth is that the interface was in need of simplifying. The Dow Jones team have addressed that issue. The easier Factiva is to use, the more it will be used. Overall, at Dow Jones, digital revenues now comprise 76% of total revenues, a 4 percentage point rise over the past year. Some of that expansion is due to continuing strength in digital subscriptions. Digital-only subscriptions increased 10%, while total Dow Jones consumer subscriptions rose 5%. In fact, just in recent weeks, total Dow Jones subscriptions sold past the 5 million mark for the first time. Almar Latour and the team are increasing the emphasis on upselling subscriptions with the bundling of MarketWatch, the WSJ, IBD, and Barron's. The basic strategy is to provide an evermore premium service for our readers as we leverage valuable audiences across platforms.

I am particularly proud to highlight the continuing revival of Foxtel's fortunes under the sage leadership of Patrick and Siobhan and the team, who have increased profitability and thus optionality. Reported segment revenues were down 7%, while segment EBITDA rose a healthy 5%. Even more impressively, adjusted revenues, which excludes the impact of Forex volatility, rose 3%, while adjusted segment EBITDA rose a handsome 16%. Streaming continues to be a core strength of Foxtel, as we have added well over half a million paying OTT subscribers in the past year. Binge reached nearly 1.4 million paying subscribers in the quarter and will be launching an advertising tier later this fiscal year as we seek to maximize Foxtel's revenue potential. Total paying subscriptions at Foxtel were up 10% year-over-year, and we also saw the benefits of modest price increases at Kayo and Binge.

Our sports programming portfolio has been enhanced with renewal of Australian cricket rights to 2031. We are now on the cusp of the peak selling season for Kayo as the Australian football and rugby league seasons will start imminently. We solidified our entertainment offerings with an expanded multi-year content deal with NBCU. Overall, Foxtel's continuing success and positive trajectory have certainly increased our optionality for that business. HarperCollins experienced another difficult quarter reflecting sluggish spending on books after the pandemic-inspired surge, difficult front list comparisons, as well as the continuing impact of Amazon's logistics issues. Under the prevailing circumstances, it is absolutely necessary to confront the cost base as we seek to bolster long-term profitability in the post-pandemic marketplace. Some of our key titles this quarter include Fox News host Harris Faulkner's Faith Still Moves Mountains and Joanna Gaines' The Stories We Tell.

While best-selling authors Colleen Hoover and Tarryn Fisher's work Never Never will be released later this month. The news media segment showed signs of real resilience in the midst of a volatile advertising market and Forex headwinds. The standout masthead was TheSun.com in the U.S., which reported a 127% year-over-year increase in quarterly page views. Meanwhile, The Times and The Sunday Times reached nearly 490,000 digital subscriptions in the quarter. At News Corp Australia, total digital subs exceeded 1 million, representing an 11% rise year-over-year. Wireless had a solid quarter in connected listening, which was assisted by interest in the World Cup on talkSPORT, while TalkTV revitalized its lineup. The New York Post remains on target for another profitable year despite the ad market.

As for digital real estate services, the patent complexities of the current housing market in both the U.S. and Australia are well known and have had an effect on REA and Move. The property market inevitably has interest rate-related cycles, but with rates nearing a peak in both the U.S. and Australia, we believe the next phase of the cycle is not far away. We have this week launched a new campaign to use our media inventory to drive traffic at realtor.com, and the positive effects should be seen in coming months. REA continued to maintain its number one market share in Australia this quarter with over 3.3x the audience of its nearest competitor. Our business in India, now the market leader in audience, is showing much potential.

While leads were down at realtor.com in the quarter, the business saw year-over-year improvement in revenue per lead as the team is focused on pricing, sell-through, and close rates. We now are increasing our emphasis on the monetization of sell-side listings as inventory time on the market has increased significantly in recent months, and we will be able to provide realtors and vendors with improved service. In closing, while we expect the macro trends to have a continuing effect on our businesses and are committed to a 5% reduction in our workforce, we are confident that the combination of prudent cost management, sound capital stewardship, commitment to digital expansion, and simplification should provide a firm foundation for future growth. We will remain acutely focused on the creation of value for our shareholders as the possible sale of Move eloquently testifies.

We also remain firmly committed to our billion-dollar share buyback and dividend program. Now for a more granular account of our Q2, I give you over to Susan Panuccio.

Susan Panuccio
CFO, News Corp

Thanks, Robert. Before I discuss the quarterly results, I want to expand on Robert's opening comments. As we noted in our recent SEC filing, we have been engaged in discussions with CoStar about a potential sale of Move. Any potential transaction would need to not only maximize shareholder value, but also strengthen realtor.com's competitive position. We do not plan on making additional comments on this call regarding the potential transaction and will update the market when appropriate. Turning to our fiscal 2023 Q2 results, the macro environment weighed heavily on the financial results and conditions worsened as the quarter progressed, most notably in December. Q2 total revenues were over $2.5 billion, down 7% year-over-year, which included a $171 million or 6% negative impact from foreign currency headwinds.

Excluding the impact of foreign currency fluctuations, acquisitions, and divestitures, Q2 adjusted revenues fell 3% compared to the prior year. The revenue decline was primarily driven by the book publishing and digital real estate services segments. On a constant currency basis, we saw continued growth in circulation and subscription revenues, which was partially offset by a modest decline in advertising revenues. Total segment EBITDA was $409 million, 30% lower compared to the prior year's record profits. The results included $6 million of one-time costs incurred by the special committee and the company regarding the proposal from the Murdoch Family Trust, which has now been withdrawn and the special committee has been dissolved. Adjusted total segment EBITDA declined 28% versus the prior year period.

For the quarter, we reported earnings per share of $0.12 compared to $0.40 in the prior year due to lower total segment EBITDA and higher losses from equity affiliates. Adjusted earnings per share were $0.14 in the quarter compared to $0.44 in the prior year. Moving on to the results for the individual reporting segments, starting with digital real estate services. Segment revenues were $386 million, down 15% compared to the prior year, impacted by the ongoing macroeconomic pressures on both the Australian and U.S. housing markets. The results include a negative impact of $26 million or 5% from foreign currency fluctuations.

On an adjusted basis, segment revenues decreased 10%. Segment EBITDA declined 28% to $128 million impacted by lower revenues and a negative impact related to currency headwinds, partially offset by lower broker commissions at REA. Adjusted segment EBITDA declined 22%. REA revenues were $240 million, down 16% on a reported basis, including a 9% negative impact from foreign exchange. Revenues were impacted by the weakness in financial services due to fewer settlements amid rising interest rates and a decline in residential revenues driven by lower new buy listings. In the quarter, Australian national residential buy listings were down 21%, with Sydney and Melbourne down 34% and 31% respectively.

Those declines were partially offset by price increases in the residential and commercial businesses, higher contribution from Premier Plus, and favorable debt penetration, as well as continued momentum at REA India, which is scaling in both traffic and revenues. Please refer to REA's earnings release and their conference call following this call for more details. At Move, revenues were $146 million, down 14% compared to the prior year, with real estate revenues down 17%, driven by lower lead and transaction volumes reflective of the broader housing market challenges. Unique lead volumes fell 37%, while Realtors average monthly unique users were 66 million in the Q2 based on internal metrics. Turning to the subscription video services segment.

Revenues for the quarter were $462 million, down 7% compared to the prior year on a reported basis due to foreign currency headwinds. On a constant currency basis, revenues rose 3% versus the prior year, the fourth consecutive quarter of growth in constant currency, underscoring the improved stability of the business. Again, more than offset broadcast revenue declines, benefiting from both volume growth and higher pricing at Kayo and Binge. We also benefited this quarter from growth in commercial revenues as the prior year results were impacted by the pandemic-related lockdown. Total closing paid subscribers across the Foxtel group reached over 4.3 million at quarter end, up 10% year-over-year.

Total paid streaming subscribers were approximately 2.7 million, increasing 25% versus the prior year, and represented 62% of Foxtel's total paid subscriber base. Kayo paying subscribers reached over 1.1 million, up 11% year-over-year, but declined sequentially from the Q1 as it exhibited typical seasonal patterns with the end of the AFL and NRL seasons in September. Given its enhanced and expanded content offerings, Foxtel has rolled out a price rise to its Kayo customers effective this month on its basic two-stream tier. Binge paying subscribers grew a robust 48% year-over-year to almost 1.4 million subscribers, benefiting from a strong release slate, which included the second season of The White Lotus and carryover demand from House of the Dragon.

As Robert mentioned, we are looking forward to the introduction of advertising within Binge later this fiscal year and have begun selling launch packages. Foxtel entered the quarter with 1.4 million residential broadcast subscribers, down 10% year-over-year. Broadcast churn improved sequentially and year-over-year to 12.9%, despite the migration of cable subscribers to streaming or satellite. At quarter end, less than 80,000 subscribers remained on cable as Foxtel continues to migrate subscribers from cable by fiscal year-end. Broadcast ARPU rose 2% to AUD 83. Segment EBITDA in the quarter of $90 million was 5% higher versus the prior year, which reflects an 11% negative impact from foreign exchange. Adjusted segment EBITDA increased 16% despite higher sports and entertainment costs. Moving on to Dow Jones.

Dow Jones posted a strong top-line performance in the Q2, with revenues of $563 million, up 11% compared to the prior year. Digital revenues accounted for 76% of total revenues this quarter, up 4 percentage points from last year. On an adjusted basis, revenues rose 1%, impacted by a weaker advertising marketplace compared to the prior year. Circulation revenues grew 3%, driven by strong year-over-year volume gains, including bundled offerings, with total Dow Jones' digital-only subscriptions up approximately 10% to over 4.1 million. We are particularly pleased with the performance at our professional information business, which saw revenue growth accelerate from the prior quarter to 45%. PIP revenues accounted for 33% of segment revenues.

The integration of OPIS and CMA are progressing in line with our expectations as the businesses benefit from the strong demand across numerous industries, including metals, carbon, plastics, sustainability, biofuels, and renewables, while yields continue to rise and retention remains strong. Risk and compliance revenue growth accelerated from the prior quarter, up 13% despite a 7 percentage point negative impact from foreign currency. We saw improved growth in all regions, underpinned by a healthy new business pipeline, most notably in EMEA, led by demand for screening and monitoring and financial crime search products. Retention remains strong at above 90%. Advertising revenues declined 7% to $131 million, with digital advertising revenues down 3% in the quarter and print down 13%, which was mostly due to weakness in December, with October and November reasonably stable versus the prior year.

Digital advertising accounted for 59% of total advertising revenues, which improved 3 percentage points from last year. The technology and financial categories, which are typically our two largest advertising categories, were both impacted by the macro conditions. We saw digital advertising growth at the wallstreetjournal.com underscoring its premium audience. However, this was more than offset by the declines at MarketWatch, which face more headwinds as its audience and advertising demand tend to be more stock market sensitive. Dow Jones segment EBITDA for the quarter declined 3% to $139 million, reflecting a higher spending rate compared to both the prior year and Q1, driven by costs related to the OPIS and CMA acquisitions, higher compensation costs, and phasing of marketing expenses. Adjusted segment EBITDA for the quarter was down 16%.

We expect cost growth to moderate in the second half, and I will provide more detail on this later in my commentary about the outlook for the upcoming quarter. At Book Publishing, while we saw some impacts from the logistic constraints at Amazon, the results were mostly hampered by significant softness in consumer demand across the industry, notably in North America. On the cost side, lower costs due to volume declines were partially offset by ongoing supply chain inventory and inflationary pressures, further contracting margins. For the quarter, revenues declined 14% to $531 million, and segment EBITDA declined 52% to $51 million. The backlist represented 57% of revenues, up slightly from last year, partly driven by weaker frontlist performance. With the mix being more weighted towards physical copies rather than digital, which had an adverse impact on margins.

Digital sales declined 7% this quarter and accounted for 19% of consumer sales. On an adjusted basis, revenues fell 11% and segment EBITDA declined 51%. To mitigate the recent challenges, HarperCollins has already implemented price increases and has been actively reviewing its cost structure, including the recently announced 5% company-wide headcount reduction. Turning to News Media, revenues were $579 million, down 9%, which included a $65 million or 10% negative impact on revenues from foreign currency. Adjusted revenues rose 1%. Circulation and subscription revenues declined 7% but were up 4% in constant currency. Growth on a constant currency basis was driven by cover price increases in the U.K. and Australia and double-digit subscriber growth across News Australia and The Times and The Sunday Times.

We saw advertising conditions worsen from the prior quarter, albeit with variance across our markets. Advertising revenues were down 13% but down 3% in constant currency. Advertising at News UK was down modestly in constant currency as lower print advertising revenues were partially offset by strong growth in digital advertising at The Sun, which has seen very strong momentum in both page views and yields from its U.S. site. Advertising trends were notably weaker in Australia and at the New York Post. During the quarter, we saw that December was the weakest month for both the U.K. and the New York Post, while in Australia, November was the most challenging, with December showing modest improvements month-over-month.

Segment EBITDA of $59 million declined 47%, which was driven by approximately $22 million of higher costs related to the TalkTV initiative in the U.K. and other digital investments, notably in Australia, as well as nearly $21 million negative impact from higher newsprint pricing. New York Post remained a positive contributor to segment EBITDA. Adjusted segment EBITDA fell 43%. Free cash flow for the six months ending December 31st was lower than the prior year due to lower total segment EBITDA as well as the timing of working capital payments, which included the payment for sports rights in the Q2. We remain focused on driving strong and positive free cash flow generation for the year. Turning to the outlook, we continue to expect higher costs due to supply chain and inflationary pressures. Advertising conditions remain challenging and visibility is limited.

We expect ongoing foreign exchange headwinds, albeit at a more modest impact given recent spot rates. We remain committed to reducing costs where we can, driven by headcount reductions across our business units, prioritize marketing spending and lower discretionary costs while balancing investment spend. Looking at each of our segments, at Digital Real Estate Services, Australian residential new buy listings for January declined 9%. Please refer to REA for more specific outlook commentary. At Move, we expect lead volumes to remain challenged in the near term due to macro conditions, albeit moderating mortgage rates have led to early signs of improving trends in the housing market. In Subscription Video Services, we remain pleased with the performance of the streaming products and the ongoing focus on broadcast ARPU and churn as we continue to migrate customers off cable.

We are very encouraged by the year-to-date performance and continue to expect the Foxtel group's profitability in local currency for the full year to be relatively stable. Profitability will be skewed to the Q4 as we expect Q3 costs to be higher in local currency compared to the prior year, given the contractual escalators and expanded content from the AFL and NRL. At Dow Jones, we remain focused on the integration of OPIS and CMA. January advertising trends were similar to December, with revenues down versus the prior year, and we expect trends to remain challenged, especially given the ongoing pressures within the technology category, noting that visibility is limited as usual. As I mentioned earlier, we expect the rate of investment spending growth in the second half to be more modest than the first half rate, which should aid profitability.

In Book Publishing, we are optimistic about our new release slate, which should help with the performance in the second half, although near-term industry trading conditions have remained challenged. At News Media, similar to the Q2, we expect ongoing inflationary cost pressures, especially on newsprint prices, which will be balanced by targeted cost initiatives. We will continue to see incremental costs in relation to product investments, albeit at a lower rate than the Q2. Finally, in relation to the potential sale of Move and the special committee's work on the now withdrawn proposal, we expect to see some additional one-time transaction costs in the Q3. With that, let me hand it over to the operator for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. We will now start the Q&A session. Please limit your questions to one per participant. If you have joined via the Zoom application, please use the raise hand functionality to ask a question. If you have joined via the audio line, please press star nine. Questions will be answered in the order they are received. We will now pause a moment to assemble the queue. Our first question comes from Kane Hannan from Goldman Sachs. Kane, your line is open. Feel free to unmute.

Kane Hannan
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Morning, guys. Just two quick ones. One, just that 5% headcount reduction you're talking about, I mean, we saw the 5% reduction for Books. Do we think that's broadly consistent across the News Corp group or, you know, could be more skewed to Dow Jones or, you know, NIS or some of the other segments? Then I'll try my luck. You know, obviously seeing the Move, and I'll take your comment, Susan. I suppose how do I think about the importance of REA in the broader portfolio if we assume that the Move sale was complete? That's why some of the synergies of owning, you know, REA would diminish without the Move asset in the portfolio. Just interested if there's any comments you can make there. Cheers.

Robert Thomson
CEO, News Corp

Kane, first of all, the 5% re-reduction will be across all businesses, it will be conducted in coming months with a view to concluding this calendar year. We expect savings of the order of at least $130 million annualized. As for REA, what I can say is that REA is a core part of our portfolio. It's a different company to Move. You can do the math for what REA is worth to us at in terms of market cap, which is around AUD 16.6 billion, and our share is around 61.4%. Obviously, we all owe Lachlan Murdoch our gratitude for his digital pro-property prescience.

We're very pleased with the way the business is progressing. You heard a little from Susan about the success that we're currently having in India, where traffic was up 37% to 38 million uniques. We've transferred the oversight of the India business to the REA team, where the expertise is evident, and candidly, the time zone's more sympathetic. Not only do we have the most successful property site in Australia, we have the largest digital property site in India. Tell me what that's worth now and what that will be worth in a decade from now.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, Kane. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Karnovsky from JPMorgan. David, your line is open. Feel free to unmute.

David Karnovsky
Equity Research Analyst, JP Morgan

Hi. Thank you. With book publishing, wondering if you could quantify the Amazon impact in the quarter or maybe relative to last quarter. You noted a slowing consumer demand generally. Is that a function of post-pandemic behavior, the economy or just, you know, the titles that are in the market? Susan, any update on, you know, when you might expect some easing on the inflationary pressures there? Thanks.

Robert Thomson
CEO, News Corp

Well, first of all, it's difficult to specifically identify or quantify the Amazon effect other than to say that it's real. The and you can see from the facts that there was a 14% decline in revenues and, well, segment EBITDA fell 52%. That the impact of inflation generally was profound. But let's be very clear, this is not the new normal. The relatively large EBITDA fall shows that inflation, which over the past year has risen significantly, had an impact. And it was because of the mix of titles. You probably heard that physical was around 81% of the business in the most recent quarter. In the past, years, digital has been as much as 24% or 25%. The physical is obviously more impacted by inflationary pressures given paper, printing, and distribution. Susan?

Susan Panuccio
CFO, News Corp

David, just in relation to Amazon, just to add a couple of points on that. We did see a slightly lower impact in Q2 than what we did in Q1. Actually, in January, we have seen Amazon sort of spending patterns return to relatively normal levels, albeit, you know, that is predicated on macro conditions going forward. Just in relation to inflation, unfortunately, I think we expect those inflationary impacts to continue through the balance of this fiscal year, which is one of the reasons that we've implemented the headcount reductions that we've talked about.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, David. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Huber from Huber Research. Craig, feel free to unmute by dialing star nine.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Craig? Craig?

Operator

Craig, I see you've turned on your phone. You may unmute by dialing star nine.

Craig Huber
CEO and Managing Director, Huber Research Partners

Yeah. Hi. Yeah, two questions if I could real quick. If you can hear me. In your equity investment line, you had, like, a $29 million loss there. Can you just explain that, if you would, please? Is that sort of recurring here for the next few quarters? Separate from that, I wanted to ask you, CMA and the OPIS acquisitions, what was the organic revenue growth there if you had owned it in both periods, please, in the quarter? Thank you.

Susan Panuccio
CFO, News Corp

Craig, I'll just take these. The first question in relation to the equity losses, we've actually got a small investment in a wagering platform down in Australia. The sub U.S. $50 million investment and the quarter reflected some startup losses in relation to that venture. I think importantly, we don't expect that equity loss reflected in Q2 to be the run rate going forward. Just in relation to OPIS and CMA, we don't break out the run rates for that going forward. But you can see from the adjusted revenues, DJ revenue was up 1%, and you can see the impact of what the reported numbers were.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, Craig. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Entcho Raykovski from Credit Suisse. Entcho, please go ahead.

Entcho Raykovski
Director and Head of Media and Telecommunications Research, Credit Suisse

Hi, Robert. Hi, Susan. Just a very quick clarification around the 5% headcount reduction, and I appreciate that must be a difficult decision. Presumably, that only applies to the wholly-owned assets and not REA. Just secondly, I appreciate you're not talking about the sale of Move specifically, but assuming it was to go ahead, how do you think about the use of the proceeds, given they could be reasonably material? Are you thinking about reinvestment or are you thinking about further returns to shareholders?

Robert Thomson
CEO, News Corp

Sure, obviously REA is a separate listed company, but I think I can assure you that they are very much focused on cost reduction in the present climate, and you'll be able to hear more from the REA team a little later. Look, I can only speak generally about capital allocation. We're constantly reviewing our capital allocation policies. As I said earlier, we're committed to our billion-dollar buyback, to our dividend program. Obviously, we're gonna consider further measures given the potential proceeds of the Move deal and the savings inherent in the cost-cutting program we've announced today. We'll also be opportunistic on investment as OPIS and CMA have providentially proved, and we'll seek to share those profits that providence with shareholders.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, Entcho. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Alan Gould from Loop Capital. Alan, please go ahead.

Alan Gould
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Loop Capital

Yeah. Thank you for taking the question. I've got two, please. Robert, we're seeing the US streaming companies sort of get religion and now looking for profits as opposed to just growth. How does that impact Foxtel? I know Foxtel had gotten a lot of its content from HBO and some of the other US companies. Does it now appear that that content will stay on Foxtel as opposed to those companies starting their own streaming areas? Secondly, you talked about one of your policies being simplification. Now, obviously, selling Move would help with simplification, but are there any other simplification moves we're seeing?

Robert Thomson
CEO, News Corp

Well, first of all, I think we've spoken on past calls about the prospect of imperial overstretch among some of the U.S. entertainment companies. I think that prognostication is indeed coming to pass, and it also shows you the value of the Foxtel platform. It's of itself, clearly a success story, not only for our company or for Australia, but globally. They've got the streaming mix right. They've secured the sports rights long term that truly matter to viewers, and not only one sport and one region, but across sports and regions. Looking here from New York, Foxtel has genuinely been transformed by much toil and sustained sagacity. It has evolved from what you might call euphemistically a complicated situation to a genuine opportunity, and we will be opportunistic with that opportunity.

Alan Gould
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Loop Capital

There's a question on simplification.

Robert Thomson
CEO, News Corp

As for simplification, look, simplification and transparency are obviously important, as you can see by how the company's evolved in recent years. We've broken out the Dow Jones numbers, which shed sunlight not only on its potential and potency, but on the situation of, and revival of, News Media. As you know, the New York Post was profitable last year and will be likely to be profitable again this year. That profitability should increase over time. You know that in that sector we sold News America Marketing, which became more peripheral over time, given the changes in that sector. The peripheral is simply not the integral.

Simplification does not mean reductio ad absurdism. It does mean focusing on core growth engines, which is why we've invested in the professional information business at Dow Jones. The fruits of that investment are already obvious, even in difficult trading conditions overall.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, Alan. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Han from Morningstar. Brian, feel free to unmute.

Entcho Raykovski
Director and Head of Media and Telecommunications Research, Credit Suisse

Hi, Robert. You mentioned making price adjustments where necessary. Where do you see are the priority divisions for such price adjustments from this point onwards?

Susan Panuccio
CFO, News Corp

Maybe I can take that, Brian. I mean, look, I think we've got opportunities in each of our segments. We take cover price increases as it pertains to the market heads across News Media, The Journal. You know, we're constantly having a look at our yields on advertising to see what we can do to maximize those. As I mentioned in my commentary, we've just recently announced a price rise at Kayo. That goes to the strength of the products down there. We had a price rise on Binge, you know, not so long ago. We've also been having a look at price rises across upper column. Actually, we have a lot of pricing power when we think about our different segments, and we really just assess the market conditions as we, as we work our way through what's appropriate.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, Brian. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Johnny Huynh from Evans and Partners.

Johnny Huynh
Equity Research Associate, Evans and Partners

Hey, I just wanted to ask on the interest in the advertising tier on Binge so far. Like, I know Netflix had some issues launching in Australia with too high demand but not enough audience. I just wanted to see your thoughts on any strategies around this as well.

Susan Panuccio
CFO, News Corp

Look, I think, we're just doing a soft launch in relation to the ad tier down in Foxtel. It hasn't yet launched, so we haven't got any learnings from that, and we just expect a modest uptick in the current financial year as a consequence of that launching later in the fiscal year. We'll have more learnings from that once we've got it out in the marketplace.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, Johnny. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from Darren Leung from Macquarie.

Darren Leung
Lead Analyst, Macquarie

Hi, guys. Thanks for the opportunity. I just wanted to ask quickly, in the release, it indicates, in relation to Realtor or Move that, you know, as part of the transaction is to create shareholder value and strengthen Realtor's competitive position. Appreciate, I'm not talking about the transaction as such, but can you give us an idea as to what strengthened competitive position looks like, please?

Robert Thomson
CEO, News Corp

Sorry, Darren, to be so cheery or so circumspect, but we really can't say any more about the discussion, so you'll have to stay tuned. You can presume that we are very much focused on shareholder value and that we would have an ongoing role in value creation. Those are our imperatives and always been the imperatives of News Corporation. I have to say in passing that we have much respect for CoStar as a company, its leadership, what they've created, what they could create, what they could do for competition in a very competitive digital real estate market here, and frankly, how we could partner with them.

Susan Panuccio
CFO, News Corp

Look, I think I'd also add that it is important for us if, you know, if and when we complete any sale, that it actually goes to an owner where we believe will, you know, continue to invest and grow that business going forward. I think that's important for any asset that we look to sell.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Thank you, Darren. Leila, we'll take our next question, please.

Operator

At this time, we have no further questions, so I'll hand back to Michael Florin for closing remarks.

Michael Florin
SVP and Head of Investor Relations, News Corp

Great. Well, thank you, Leila, and thank you all for participating. We look forward to talking to you soon. Have a wonderful day. We'll talk to you soon. Bye.

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