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Earnings Call: Q2 2019

Aug 5, 2019

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the ON Semiconductor second quarter 2019 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we'll conduct a question and answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star and the zero key on your touch-tone telephone. As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would now like to introduce you to today's conference, Parag Agarwal, Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Parag Agarwal
VP of Corporate Development and Investor Relations, ON Semiconductor

Thank you, Chris. Good morning, and thank you for joining ON Semiconductor Corporation second quarter 2019 quarterly results conference call. I'm joined today by Keith Jackson, our President and CEO, and Bernard Gutmann, our CFO. The call is being broadcast on the investor relations section of our website at www.onsemi.com. A replay of this broadcast, along with our earnings release for the second quarter of 2019, will be available on our website approximately one hour following this conference call, and the recorded broadcast will be available for approximately 30 days following this conference call. The script for today's call and additional information related to our end markets, business segments, geographies, channels, and share count are also posted on our website. Our earnings release and this presentation includes certain non-GAAP financial measures.

A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to most directly comparable measures under GAAP are in our earnings release, which is posted separately on our website in the investor relations section. During the course of this conference call, we'll make projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. The words believe, estimate, project, anticipate, intend, may, expect, will, plan, should, or similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. We wish to caution that such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially from projections. Important factors which can affect our business, including factors that could cause actual results to differ from our forward-looking statements, are described in our Form 10-K, Form 10-Qs, and other filings with Securities and Exchange Commission.

Additional factors are described in our earnings release for second quarter of 2019. Our estimates or other forward-looking statements may change, and the company assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect actual results, changed assumptions, or other factors, except as required by law. During the third quarter, we will attend Jefferies 2019 Semiconductor, Hardware, and Communication Infrastructure Summit in Chicago on August 27th, Citi Global Technology Conference in New York on September 5th, and Deutsche Bank Technology Conference in Las Vegas on September 10th. Now, let me turn it over to Bernard Gutmann, who will provide an overview of our second quarter 2019 results. Bernard?

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

Thank you, Parag, thank you everyone for joining us today. Geopolitical and macroeconomic factors impacted our second quarter revenue. Sharper than expected broad-based inventory correction, especially in the automotive market, was the driver of lower than expected revenue in the second quarter. Furthermore, we saw weakness in our communications revenue as we temporarily halted shipments to a major customer to comply with U.S. federal law. Despite headwinds to our top line during the current cyclical downturn in the semiconductor industry, our execution continues to be solid, and we continue to post strong margin and earnings performance. Far, in the current downturn, cyclicality in our revenue and margins has been lower than that of our peer group. Our performance thus far speaks to the transformed nature of our business and our focus on highly differentiated power, analog, sensor, and connectivity products for automotive, industrial, and cloud power end markets.

Key secular trends in automotive, industrial, and cloud power end markets remain intact. We continue to make prudent investments to strengthen our competitive position in our strategic end markets and to further improve our industry-leading cost structure. Our design win pipeline in key growth areas continues to expand at a rapid pace. Though the second quarter was challenging from the revenue perspective, current booking trends point towards stabilization in business conditions. Demand trends from automotive customers have stabilized, and bookings from communications customers have improved. We believe that distribution inventory correction should be nearly complete by the end of the third quarter or early Q4 of 2019. Although we are seeing stabilization in demand at lower level of revenue, we are not seeing much evidence of any meaningful recovery in demand.

While we are encouraged by the stabilization in business conditions, we are cognizant of risks arising from unforeseen geopolitical and macroeconomic events, and we are managing our business to adjust to the near-term volatility in demand. We have taken measures to control our operating expenses in line with relatively soft business conditions. We believe that a highly diversified customer base, exposure to the fastest-growing semiconductor end markets, and long life cycle of many of our products should help us better navigate the current slowdown in demand as compared to broader analog and power semiconductor industry. We remain upbeat about the future and, as I noted earlier, we are making prudent strategic investment to strengthen and build our leadership in key strategic markets and to improve our cost structure.

In the second quarter, we closed the acquisition of Quantenna Communications, which we believe will strengthen our presence in connectivity applications for industrial and automotive end markets. We also recently announced our plans to add the first 300-millimeter fab to our manufacturing network in a phased transaction over the next four years. The addition of this fab in a staged process should accelerate our progress towards our 2022 target financial model, enable savings of approximately $1 billion in capital expenditures over the next several years, and provide sufficient capacity to support our long-term growth at a highly competitive cost structure. Now, let me provide you details on our second quarter 2019 results. Total revenue for the second quarter of 2019 was $1.348 billion, a decrease of 7% as compared to revenues of $1.456 billion in the second quarter of 2018.

The year-over-year decline in revenue was primarily driven by well-publicized microeconomic and geopolitical factors, which have impacted the overall semiconductor industry. GAAP net income for the second quarter was $0.24 per diluted share as compared to $0.35 in the second quarter of 2018. Non-GAAP net income for the second quarter was $0.42 per diluted share as compared to $0.46 in the second quarter of 2018. GAAP gross margin for the second quarter was 37%. Non-GAAP gross margin for the second quarter was 37.1%. Year-over-year, our second quarter 2019 non-GAAP gross margin declined by 106 basis points, primarily due to lower revenue. Despite a meaningful quarter-over-quarter decline in revenue in the second quarter, we delivered solid gross margin performance with gross margin flat as compared to that of the first quarter.

Our GAAP operating margin for the second quarter of 2019 was 11.7% as compared to 13.5% in the second quarter of 2018. Our non-GAAP operating margin for the second quarter of 2019 was 15.7% as compared to 16.3% in the second quarter of 2018. The year-over-year decline in operating margin was driven largely by lower gross margin. GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter were $341 million as compared to $358 million for the second quarter of 2018. Non-GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter were $288 million as compared to $318 million in the second quarter of 2018. The year-over-year decline in second quarter operating expenses was driven by aggressive expense control, zero bonus accrual, and the reversal of bonus accrued during the first quarter of 2019. Second quarter free cash flow was $69 million, and operating cash flow was $222 million.

Capital expenditures during the second quarter were $154 million, which equates to a capital intensity of 11%. We exited the second quarter of 2019 with cash and cash equivalents of $885 million as compared to $940 million in the first quarter of 2019. We used $50 million of cash to repurchase 2.6 million shares of our stock during the second quarter. At the end of the second quarter, days of inventory on hand were 137 days, up by nine days as compared to 128 days in the first quarter of 2019. This increase in inventory was driven primarily by the inclusion of Quantenna's results for a few days during the second quarter and by the fair market value step-up of Quantenna's inventory.

Had we included Quantenna's results without fair market value step-up for the entire second quarter, our days of inventory at the end of the second quarter would have been 132 days, up four days as compared to 128 days in the first quarter. We intend to lower the days of inventory in our balance sheet in the third quarter. Distribution resales increased meaningfully in the second quarter over the first quarter. Distribution inventory in terms of weeks declined quarter-over-quarter in the second quarter and is now within our target range of 11-13 weeks. We expect to see further reduction in our distribution inventories in terms of days in the third quarter. As we noted in our previous earnings conference call, we're aggressively managing our distribution inventory to ensure a healthy level of inventory in the distribution channel.

We believe that in addition to secular growth drivers in automotive, industrial, and cloud power markets, our proactive management of distribution inventory has been a key reason behind relatively lower level of volatility in our revenue over the last several quarters as compared to volatility in revenue of our peers. Let me provide you an update on performance of our business units, starting with Power Solutions Group or PSG. Revenue for PSG for the second quarter was $701 million. Revenue for the Analog Solutions Group for the second quarter of 2019 was $462 million, and revenue for the Intelligent Sensing Group was $185 million. I would like to turn the call over to Keith Jackson for additional comments on the business environment. Keith?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Thanks, Bernard. Our execution remains strong despite demand weakness in the overall semiconductor market. In the second quarter, we delivered strong margin and earning performance despite strong headwinds from geopolitical and macroeconomic factors. The near-term business conditions are tepid, the foundation of our business, with exposure to secular megatrends in automotive, industrial, and cloud power end markets remains solid. With strong execution discipline, we are well positioned to navigate through the current soft patch in demand. The much anticipated recovery in demand conditions has not materialized yet, but current booking trends point towards stabilization of demand trends. Based on commentary from our distribution partners, it appears that ongoing inventory correction in the distribution channel should be nearly complete by the end of the third quarter or early fourth quarter. We have strong visibility into the distribution channel, geopolitical and macroeconomic factors are difficult to forecast.

No matter what direction business conditions take, we are well-prepared to respond in an expeditious manner. Despite the current slowdown in demand, we continue to make prudent investments to strengthen our competitive position and to further improve our industry-leading cost structure. During the second quarter, we announced the completion of our acquisition of Quantenna Communications, a provider of market-leading connectivity semiconductor solutions for Wi-Fi. We believe that connectivity capability is a primary requirement for success in the industrial IoT market. As we've announced earlier, we intend to leverage Quantenna's market-leading connectivity capabilities to gain technological leadership in the connectivity market for industrial IoT. At the same time, we will continue to invest in Quantenna to grow its carrier business. Current customer feedback has been very positive, and customers are excited about the benefits of the combined technical, financial, and market resources of Quantenna and ON Semiconductor will bring to them.

Integration of Quantenna is on track, and the teams are working on product roadmaps and on achieving synergy targets. Due to ongoing softness in the semiconductor industry, Quantenna has experienced a slowdown in its business as well and is expected to be mildly dilutive in the third quarter. However, as we realize synergies and reduce costs, we expect that Quantenna will deliver targeted accretion. We are also making strong progress towards ramping our production at 300-millimeter East Fishkill fab in upstate New York. Process development for porting our power products has started and is progressing at a rapid pace. We are solidly on track to start shipping our first 300-millimeter power products from East Fishkill fab in 2020. As we've indicated earlier, our 300-millimeter East Fishkill fab accelerates our progress towards our 2022 target model, enables efficiencies in our manufacturing network, and further strengthens our industry-leading cost structure.

We believe that the ramp of our 300-millimeter production will be a major inflection point in our manufacturing strategy and in our manufacturing cost structure. Key secular trends driving our business remain intact. Our momentum in our key strategic markets continues to accelerate. We continue to see meaningful increases in our content in automotive, industrial, and cloud power applications. We believe that automotive, industrial, and cloud power end markets will be among the fastest-growing semiconductor end markets for a long time. In the automotive market, accelerating adoption of electric vehicles and active safety should drive strong growth in our power semiconductor and sensor businesses. In the industrial market, we are seeing strong traction for our power semiconductors, driven by higher power efficiency requirements for industrial systems.

In the cloud power market, we are seeing robust growth for our analog power management products for servers and power semiconductors for 5G infrastructure markets. The current slowdown in demand, driven by macroeconomic and geopolitical vectors, does not change our view on our long-term growth potential. Now I'll provide details of the progress in our various end markets for the second quarter of 2019. Revenue for the automotive market in the second quarter was $434 million and represented 32% of our revenue in the second quarter. Second quarter automotive revenue declined by 5% year-over-year. Asia, including Greater China, was the primary contributor to this year-over-year decline. Weakness in the U.S. and European automotive markets also contributed to this year-over-year decline. On a quarter-over-quarter basis, we saw some stabilization in automotive revenue from Greater China region in the second quarter.

We expect that year-over-year decline in China light vehicle production units to moderate in the second half of the current year. On a global basis, we expect that global light vehicle production in terms of units will decline by 3%-4% year-over-year in 2019. U.S. and European automotive units will likely decline by 2%-3% range year-over-year in 2019. We continue to see a strong adoption of our products in vehicle electrification, active safety, and in various analog power management applications, and our content in automotive applications continues to grow. Content in applications such as EV, HEV, LED lighting, and in-vehicle network is growing in a meaningful manner. We're seeing strong customer interest for our silicon carbide products, and our customer engagement is growing worldwide.

Customer interest in our silicon carbide modules for traction inverters and onboard chargers has been very strong, and we are engaged with many customers for their upcoming EV platforms. Demand for our silicon-based power products for vehicle electrification continues to accelerate, and we are seeing strong growth in our power MOSFET business. In the current quarter, we are starting pre-production of high voltage IGBT modules to support customer ramps in the fourth quarter and in 2020. In ADAS applications, momentum for our sensor products continues to grow. We continue to gain traction with our portfolio of automotive image sensor products, and our customers are increasingly relying on us to provide them with complete product suite for automotive applications.

As I have indicated before, we are the only provider of automotive image sensors with a complete portfolio of 1 megapixel, 2 megapixel, and 8 megapixel image sensors. Adoption of rear and surround view cameras, as well as increased volumes from level 2 and 3 ADAS and autonomous vehicle systems, continue to be a catalyst for growth. We continue to grow strategic engagements for automotive radar products, and we have delivered first evaluation samples to our customers. Our analog power management products for ADAS, instrument clusters, as well as in-vehicle networking solutions, continue to grow at a healthy rate. Growth within our advanced lighting power management and LED driver solutions continues to be strong globally. Revenue in the third quarter for the automotive end market is expected to be slightly up quarter-over-quarter, as opposed to seasonality of sequential decline in revenue.

The industrial end market, which includes military, aerospace, and medical, contributed revenue of $363 million in the second quarter. The industrial end market represented 27% of our revenue in the second quarter. Year-over-year, our second quarter industrial revenue declined by 12%. The Greater China region has been the primary source of weakness in the industrial market, but we have recently seen stabilization in business trends. We believe that our product offerings for increased power efficiency requirements for the industrial systems will allow us to take advantage of the secular mega trends ahead. We continue to see increased momentum with our mid- and high-voltage power semiconductor products, such as FETs and IGBTs and modules in the industrial end market. We continue to see strength in the China solar market with our power modules and IGBTs, and our breadth of customer engagements in China continues to expand.

Within industrial, we are gaining traction in medical with our Bluetooth Low Energy products. Our technology and design expertise is well-recognized by our customer base, and we expect strong growth in the future. We continue to see strong demand for our products in implantable devices, personal diagnostics, and in hearing health markets. Revenue in the third quarter for the industrial end market is expected to be down quarter-over-quarter due to normal seasonality and ongoing softness in the industrial end market. The communications end market, which includes both networking and wireless, contributed revenue of $248 million in the second quarter. The communications end market represented 18% of our revenue in the second quarter. Second quarter communications revenue increased by 7% year-over-year. Much of the year-over-year increase was driven by strength in the 5G ramp.

Smartphone related revenue in the second quarter was also up year-over-year. We did not have meaningful revenue from Quantenna in the second quarter, as the acquisition closed on June 19th. As noted earlier, our 5G related revenue in the second quarter was disrupted as we halted shipments to a major customer in accordance with U.S. federal law. We've now resumed partial shipments to this customer in accordance with U.S. law. Despite near-term uncertainty, current engagement with our customers points to meaningful deployment rates for 5G systems in the near to mid-term. On the smartphone front, our revenue grew year-over-year. We expect to see increase in our content in new platforms slated for launch later this year.

Revenue in the third quarter for the communications end market is expected to be up quarter-over-quarter due to launch of new smartphone platforms and inclusion of Quantenna's results for a full quarter. The computing end market contributed revenue of $139 million in the second quarter. The computing end market represented 10% of our revenue in the second quarter. Second quarter computing revenue declined by 7% year-over-year. Our server business posted very solid growth on a year-over-year basis during the second quarter. We are seeing a temporary pause in our service business in the current quarter as customers adjust their inventory levels. Future generations of server platforms, we expect meaningful increase in our content. Revenue in the third quarter for computing end market is expected to be down quarter-over-quarter due to the decline in our client and server businesses.

The consumer end market contributed revenue of $164 million in the second quarter. The consumer end market represented 12% of our revenue in the second quarter. Second quarter consumer revenue declined by 21% year-over-year. The year-over-year decline was due to continuing broad-based weakness in consumer electronics and white goods markets and our selective participation in these markets. Revenue in the third quarter for the consumer end market is expected to be down quarter-over-quarter. In summary, thus far in the current downturn, cyclicality in our revenue and margins has been lower than that of our peer group. Our performance speaks to the transformed nature of our business and our focus on highly differentiated power, analog, sensor, and connectivity products for the automotive, industrial, and cloud power end markets. We are seeing stabilization in business trends in our key markets.

However, demand continues to be sub-seasonal as macroeconomic and geopolitical factors continue to weigh on end demand. We believe that ongoing distribution inventory correction should be nearly complete by the end of the third quarter or early fourth quarter 2019. Despite current weakness in the business trends across the industry, secular mega trends driving our business remain intact, and we are upbeat about our medium to long-term prospects. With our design wins, we expect that our content in automotive, industrial, and cloud power applications will continue to grow. To adjust to slowing macroeconomic environment, we are prudently managing our business with sharp focus on controlling expenses. Our operational execution remains solid. Now I'd like to turn it back over to Bernard for forward-looking guidance. Bernard?

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

Thank you, Keith. Based on product booking trends, backlog levels, and estimated turns levels, we anticipate that total ON Semiconductor revenue is expected to be in the range of $1.355 billion-$1.405 billion in the third quarter of 2019. For the third quarter of 2019, we expect GAAP gross margin to be in the range of 35.2%-36.2%, and non-GAAP gross margin to be in the range of 36.7%-37.7%. We expect total GAAP operating expenses of $349 million-$369 million. Our GAAP operating expenses include the amortization of intangibles, restructuring, asset impairments, and other charges, which are expected to be $34 million-$38 million. We expect total non-GAAP operating expenses of $315 million-$331 million in the third quarter.

The quarter-over-quarter increase in operating expenses for the third quarter over those of the second quarter is driven primarily by the inclusion of Quantenna's results for the full quarter, process transfer costs related to the 300-millimeter fab at East Fishkill, annual merit increase, and the absence of bonus reversal, which significantly lowered second quarter operating expenses. We expect to see a meaningful decrease in Quantenna-related operating expenses as we realize targeted synergies and reduce costs. Offsetting increase in the third quarter operating expenses are savings resulting from tight operating expense controls. We anticipate third quarter of 2019 GAAP net other income and expense, including interest expense, will be $38 million-$41 million, which includes non-cash interest of $9 million-$10 million. We anticipate our non-GAAP net other income and including interest expense will be $29 million-$31 million.

Net cash paid for income taxes in the third quarter of 2019 is expected to be $11 million-$15 million. We expect total capital expenditure of $125 million-$135 million in the third quarter of 2019. We also expect share-based compensation of $21 million-$23 million in the third quarter of 2019, of which approximately $2 million is expected to be in cost of goods sold, and the remaining amount is expected to be in operating expenses. This expense is included in our non-GAAP financial measures. Our diluted share count for the third quarter of 2019 is expected to be 414 million shares based on the current stock price. Further details on share count and earnings per share calculations are provided regularly in our quarterly and annual reports on Form 10-Q and Form 10-K. With that, I would like to start the Q&A session.

Thank you, and Chris, please open up the lines for questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question at this time, please press the star and the one key on your touchtone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. To prevent any background noise, would you please place your line on mute once your question has been stated. Our first question comes from the line of Ross Seymore with the Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Ross Seymore
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi, guys. Thanks for letting me ask a question. As my first one for Keith. I know you guys are guiding to basically the same sort of sub-seasonality by about 5 points as everybody else. Last quarter, you talked about an improvement in bookings that gave you confidence in the back half. Now you're talking more about a stabilization, and you think the inventory correction's going to be done at the end of this quarter and next. I guess, what changed quarter-over-quarter? Is it just the obvious trade war tensions rising? What gives you the confidence that the projection this time is something that you're willing to make after last time proving too optimistic?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah, I think, without question, two things happened during the second quarter. The geopolitical piece was much more pronounced than anticipated, and as the quarter went on, as you are aware, those impacts got more significant. The second piece is we did see more inventory correction going on than we had anticipated based on backlog trends going into the quarter at some of the OEM sides as well. The combination weakened during the quarter, and I think that's what led to the results we had. As we look forward in dialogue with the customers, and in looking at what's going on geopolitically, things have been stabilizing more. Certainly, the biggest impact from U.S. sanctions, we believe we comprehend at this stage, which we did not have going into the second quarter. We've got more confidence in what I will call stabilization at this point.

Ross Seymore
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

That's great. Then just my follow-up question, one for Bernard on gross margin and inventory. I know you talked about bringing inventory down in the third quarter. Can you talk a little bit about what that's doing to your gross margin in the near term? Now that we have the GlobalFoundries acquisition of 300-millimeter fab as well as the Quantenna acquisition, talk about the path to the low 40s gross margin target. Does that get expedited? Any sort of updates on the steps we should follow over the next year or so towards that 43% target you laid out at your analyst meeting?

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

Sure, Ross. Thank you. Inventory corrections in the third quarter, an internal inventory correction is expected to occur, but on a mild basis. We don't expect that that will have a significant impact on our gross margin. As you can see, our guidance for overall gross margin is slightly better sequentially than Q2. Both the acquisitions that we announced this quarter of Quantenna and of the phased approach for East Fishkill should be tailwinds that will help us achieve our gross margin targets for 2023. We feel pretty good about those. We'll continue with our normal 50% follow-through on incremental revenue. In the short term, it's been a little bit of a headwind, but as the inventory correction and the secular drivers take course, we expect that that will continue also being a significant help.

Ross Seymore
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Danely with Citigroup. Your line is now open.

Chris Danely
Analyst, Citigroup

Hey, thanks, guys. I guess one more question on macro. At least according to Twitter, we've got another $300 billion in tariffs coming down the pike here in the next month. How do you think that impacts you guys? Did your guidance change after the update came or do you think that that could be a little bit of downside out there?

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

We saw the tweets as well and the reactions to it. I think, our belief is that this is comprehended in the guidance that we've given. They are tariffs. The tariffs themselves have not been the issue for our revenues so far. What we expect to see is potentially some market share changes from our customers as a result of this. The overall end markets, I would not expect significant destabilization.

Chris Danely
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay, great. For my follow-up, just to drill down on a couple of Ross's questions. On inventory, what's the, I guess, the goal for your internal inventories, and when do you think you would get there? On OpEx, can we expect OpEx to drift down on the dollars basis for the next couple quarters as you guys start to squeeze some synergies?

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

Let me ask it in reverse. The OpEx, we expect those to stabilize and then in 2020 come down as we get the benefits of the synergies that we talked about for Quantenna, which we talked about being $26 million, about 16 of those in OpEx and about 10 in COGS. The inventory goal in the midterm, I expect those to come down to about 120 days. Right now, we are at 132 when you perform it out for Quantenna's at the full quarter.

Chris Danely
Analyst, Citigroup

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vijay Rakesh with Mizuho. Your line is now open.

Vijay Rakesh
Analyst, Mizuho

Yeah. Hi, guys. Just a couple of questions. When you look at the China side, just wondering what your content is on autos in general in China now, and how do you see the EV market going into next year? Thanks.

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

On EV, we expect continued growth despite the macroeconomic conditions and number of cars sold globally. We expect that % to continue to rise, and it will be led in China. We would be expecting some recovery there in China for automotives on that basis. Globally, though, we're not looking for a large pickup in total units of cars sold.

Vijay Rakesh
Analyst, Mizuho

In terms of content in China?

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

From a content perspective, for the electric vehicles, it's up to about $400 per battery car. If you move to a level 2 ADAS systems, you get another $150 per car from a year-on-year basis. Pretty significant content changes.

Vijay Rakesh
Analyst, Mizuho

Got it. I don't know if you talked about Quantenna's contribution in the September quarter, and I assume that's again well above your corporate rate, right? Thanks.

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

At Quantenna, we're not disclosing the details. We normally don't disclose customers or individual sub-end markets. It will be integrated within our ASG group. We believe we are on track with the synergy and the integration plans. As we mentioned in the call, the market for Wi-Fi has also suffered the same weaknesses on a macroeconomic and inventory corrections, therefore, we talked about being mildly dilutive in the third quarter, but on plan with the long-term plans.

Vijay Rakesh
Analyst, Mizuho

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vivek Arya with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Vivek Arya
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thanks for taking my question. I'm curious how you're managing utilization in Q3, and what will help gross margins recover from here? Will it be an improvement in mix? Are there any other operational things that you are putting in place? It was good to see gross margins kind of hold in there in Q2, but I'm just wondering what are the drivers from here on to your longer-term goals.

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

The same ones that we have elaborated in the analyst day for the long term. The mixed effect, the fall through on the incremental revenue, manufacturing cost savings, and some divestitures in small scale. We also talked about the two acquisitions we just closed in this quarter. Quantenna should be accretive to gross margin, and so should the East Fishkill acquisition. In the short term, we also take the normal tactical cost reductions, more insourcing, and tighten the belt just on discretionary spend, even at the COGS level. That should also help us shore up the numbers in the short term.

Vivek Arya
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

I see. On the computing business for Q3, I believe, Keith, you mentioned that it could be down. I'm trying to reconcile that with the stabilization in the PC market and just the growth because the new CPU is coming out in Q3. Could you give us a sense of where you're seeing the headwind? Is it more on the unit side? Is it more on the content side in your computing business? Thank you.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

It is definitely related to units, and definitely has some of the macroeconomic impacts. One of the things we do believe is that the Q2 numbers had some significant amounts of ship aheads over the concern with tariffs being imposed and increased.

Vivek Arya
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Anthony Stoss with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

Anthony Stoss
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Hi, guys. Most of my questions were asked, but maybe you can provide more color on the size or expected size of the silicon carbide business in 2019, and where do you see it going for 2020? Also, just to be clear, your comments related to Huawei that you have more visibility, does that include your ability to ship to the comms side? Thanks.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Taking the last one first, I think we do have more visibility, and our ability to ship into the comms piece of that. Clearly, there's still impact on the 5G portion, but the handset business seems to be an area that can be shipped. More clarity on Huawei at this stage, and of course, we're applying for further exemptions, as you would expect.

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

silicon carbide

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

the silicon carbide perspective, we do see that continuing to grow at an extremely rapid pace. We're not expecting 2019 to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars, but certainly toward the $ triple-digit millions.

Anthony Stoss
Analyst, Craig-Hallum

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Ramsay with Cowen. Your line is now open.

Matt Ramsay
Analyst, Cowen

Yes. Thank you. Yourselves and other companies, obviously, with the automotive challenges in the industry, have given a little bit more color specifically on the market in China. I wonder if you guys might sort of remind us what percentage of your automotive business is China consumed today, roughly, and just how that business might be trending differently than some of the business in automotive outside of China. Thank you.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Well, trend-wise, actually, I mentioned that we've seen stabilization. That market took a pretty steep double-digit drop on a year-on-year basis globally, and so that's a very significant, and most significant action on a worldwide automotive basis. We think that China overall, when you look at the numbers, contributes around 25% or so total automotive. That is an estimate because clearly we ship things to other parts of the world that are still being imported in China, but roughly a quarter.

Matt Ramsay
Analyst, Cowen

Got it. Thank you. As a follow-up from us, you had mentioned, Keith, in your commentary that the customer feedback around the Quantenna deal was quite strong. I wonder if you might elaborate on that and what particular verticals or what type of customer engagements there have been and discussions since you closed the deal that might shed a light on where you're going with that technology stack. Thank you.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah. Their existing customer base, as you're aware, basically is the ones that we would have been referencing there. They're looking at more assured supply, having a stronger financial backing there. From the span out piece, we've been talking to industrial IoT customers about our plans to expand offerings into that portion of the business, and they've also been quite excited by taking some high-performance solutions and combining it with the rest of our IoT solutions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ambrish Srivastava with BMO. Your line is now open.

Speaker 21

Hi, guys. This is Jameson calling in for Ambrish. Thanks for the question. First, I was wondering if you guys could comment on your lead times in power. Where are they now versus a peak? Also, what are they doing compared to normal levels?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Lead times still continue to be mid-teens. This is down definitely from a year ago levels by four or five weeks, and slightly longer than what we would call normal for the industry, as there's still some constraints in our power business.

Speaker 21

Okay, great. Thanks. My follow-up is regarding your East Fishkill fab. I was wondering, with the lower demand that you guys are seeing, does this affect any ramp of any sort there? Do you plan on, I guess, pulling things in or pushing things out given the increased supply that you'll have from there? Thank you.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

No, it doesn't change any of our expectations there. We're still moving full steam ahead. As I mentioned earlier on the EV trends, the automotive trends, and the 5G trends, we're expecting significant and continued growth in those power businesses next year. There's no changes anticipated there.

Speaker 21

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Mark Delaney
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yes. Good morning. Thanks very much for taking the questions. The first question is related to pricing. In prior calls, I think the company commented.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

On pricing, in general terms, we still are seeing a pretty benign environment as compared to what we have seen in previous years. No change from that. Yeah, I think we lost him.

Operator

Chris, can we move on to the next caller, please? Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tristan Gerra with Baird. Your line is now open.

Tristan Gerra
Analyst, Baird

Hi, good morning. In terms of Quantenna being impacted by the macro trend, was there also any company specific events, such as any share loss, that would have impacted revenue for Quantenna versus your prior expectation? Also if you could qualify perhaps the EPS dilution that you expect from Quantenna in the quarter.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

As I mentioned, we did visit all of Quantenna's customers since the acquisition. Without exception, they have all cited softness in their business and no share loss of any kind.

Tristan Gerra
Analyst, Baird

Great. Yeah.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah, I was going to say, on the earnings per share, like we said, it's not meaningful contribution in quarter three.

Tristan Gerra
Analyst, Baird

Okay, great. Could you comment on your utilization rates that's embedded in your Q3 guidance?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah, they're low seventies.

It should be very similar to Q2.

Tristan Gerra
Analyst, Baird

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Rolland with SIG. Your line is now open.

Christopher Rolland
Analyst, SIG

Hey, guys. Thanks for the question. In your opinion, and in comparison to others, why do you think it took so much longer for your distis to start making these inventory adjustments here? Do you think it was the long lead times that you guys had, or are there some more market specific issues or end product specific issues that you guys have that others don't?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

I do believe mix is a contributor to the behaviors there. Companies with more power content have seen less of the corrections and seen it later.

Christopher Rolland
Analyst, SIG

Understood. Maybe you guys can talk about cycle times, and if you expect lead times to approach cycle times, is that something you're contemplating in this down cycle or not?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

On a product basis, you certainly have seen a narrowing of the gap between manufacturing cycle times and lead times. They don't normally collapse inside our manufacturing lead times in good markets or bad.

Christopher Rolland
Analyst, SIG

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Craig Ellis with B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

Craig Ellis
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to pose a couple of intermediate term questions on a few of the end markets. Keith, as you look at automotive, nice to see it growing in the third quarter. Do you sense that the underlying dynamics in that business, content gain, rising EV quotient, et cetera, mean that this is an inflection quarter where we could be back to sustained growth? Or are there some headwinds coming in the fourth quarter that would mean it's more bouncing along the bottom?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

In terms of units sold, we don't see a significant improvement in the fourth quarter globally. We're not looking for that. We do think that the number of models adopting EV and the number of models adopting level 2 ADAS will be increasing for the 2020 car model years, and so we should see that offset even flat or slightly down in Q4 total unit numbers. We are expecting a return to growth as you exit this year.

Craig Ellis
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

That's helpful. The follow-up is on cloud power. It sounds like the base station business is getting some strong traction. Server isn't helping just because of ship aheads. The first part of the question is, when do you think those will both be working in your favor? On base stations specifically, as you interact with your customers, what are the unit numbers for base station builds that they're talking about for this year and next year? Thank you.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

When we talked growth, we were over 60% growth year-on-year in those cloud power and applications. Very significant growth. We don't actually have any units I can give you specifically in the forecast, however.

Craig Ellis
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Timing on when server can help cloud power?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

I'm expecting that to be certainly as we enter 2020.

Craig Ellis
Analyst, B. Riley FBR

Thanks, Keith.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rajvindra Gill with Needham & Company. Your line is now open.

Rajvindra Gill
Analyst, Needham & Company

Yeah. Thank you for taking my questions. Question on automotive. If we assume auto continues to grow in Q4, it looks like the segment will be down about less than 2%. I think you had indicated that overall light vehicle production is going to decline 3%-4%. I just wanted to get a sense, is that kind of roughly what you're expecting? How does that, I guess, reconcile with dollar content gains and power and ADAS? If it is the case, there'll be a slight improvement over the unit decline, not as great. Just I would like to get some color on that.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah. Again, I think it really is the ON content story there, not the units. The other piece of what you've seen so far this year is inventory correction at the suppliers to the automobile industry. The units themselves can be down 2%, 3% or whatever, but the inventory piece, and inventory correction piece contributes the rest. As I mentioned before, I do expect as we get into Q4, the additional content story will take over, and you'll see continued growth for us.

Rajvindra Gill
Analyst, Needham & Company

Okay, that's helpful. For my follow-up question, you talked about booking trends are pointing towards stabilization. Is this mainly based on your distributors, your customers in China who have basically said, "We've finished the inventory correction, and we're going to at least kind of rebuild slowly." Just kind of characterize what's driving the stabilization in bookings. Is it just purely what we're done with the inventory correction and we're going to be bouncing off the bottom from here on out? Just any insight on that. Thank you.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah, a couple of comments. One, we did mention that we expected continued distribution inventory declines in the third quarter. We think that'll be about the end of it. It's really not a big distie stocking change in attitude. We have seen stabilization actually increases from backlog in China, whereas they were declining pretty rapidly beginning of the year. Those now look to be done with the inventory correction and starting to increase.

Rajvindra Gill
Analyst, Needham & Company

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Harlan Sur with the JP Morgan. Your line is now open.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, JPMorgan

Morning. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe just to follow up on that previous question. On the weaker industrial trends, especially greater China, you guys starting to see signs of stabilization? Any specific sub-segments where you're starting to see this stabilization, factory automation, building automation? Any color here would be great.

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

It's across the board, in China, that kind of starting to see the increases there. No one market stands out.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. On the distribution inventory came down nicely in Q2, will be down again in Q3. Resales were up sequentially in June. Relative to, let's say, your flattish guide for Q3 ex Quantenna, how much are you anticipating resales up sequentially in Q3? It looks like autos will be up. Do you expect industrial resales to be up sequentially as well?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

We are expecting to see sequential increases in the resales. They will match pretty much the commentary I gave by market. We see normal ramps in communications in the third quarter. We'll see some ramps on the automotive side. Excuse me. Those will be reflecting Q3 extra resales will be reflecting the market commentary.

Harlan Sur
Analyst, JPMorgan

Yep. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Harsh Kumar with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open.

Harsh Kumar
Analyst, Piper Jaffray

Yeah. Hey, guys. I wanted to revisit the question on OpEx. As you look to integrate Quantenna, I'm assuming your September guide has Quantenna OpEx built into it. How should we think about the sort of synergies kicking in? To what extent is there a goal that you would give us on a percentage basis with how we should think about on an OpEx basis longer term?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Our long-term goal for OpEx is the same, 21% as we have elaborated in our analyst day. We are on track to do the plans for synergies for Quantenna. When we announced Quantenna, we talked about synergies being about $26 million, about 16 of those in OpEx and 10 in COGS. They will be coming in and become meaningful in 2020.

Harsh Kumar
Analyst, Piper Jaffray

For my follow-up, I was curious if you could size how much business you're not able to do with Huawei as you look to get these licenses. If there's any color you could give us on that front, that'd be helpful.

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

We normally don't give any details on specific customers. As we said in our prepared remarks, we have partially resumed the shipments to the customers that were affected.

Harsh Kumar
Analyst, Piper Jaffray

Fair enough. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shawn Harrison with Longbow Research. Your line is now open.

Shawn Harrison
Analyst, Longbow Research

Morning. On the commentary about distribution ending the inventory corrections, I guess that commentary seemed to be a little bit ahead of the more negative tone Arrow had last week, and I was wondering if your inventory corrections may be ending earlier in function of the power products you sell being in higher demand or managing inventories a little bit more aggressively than others?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah, as I mentioned, certainly mix has an impact on what goes on there. We've also talked over the quarters about how we have a little better control system and much better visibility. Reacting appropriately and never getting too overstock is also a piece of that equation.

Shawn Harrison
Analyst, Longbow Research

As a follow-up, if I may, Bernard, free cash generation this year is probably a little bit light versus typical curve. Maybe you could talk about how you would expect to see free cash flow generation in the second half of the year?

Bernard Gutmann
CFO, ON Semiconductor

Typically, if you look at seasonality of our free cash flow, it is back-end loaded typically in the third and even more meaningful in the fourth quarter. We expect to see some catch up playing throughout the rest of the year.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Caso with Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Chris Caso
Analyst, Raymond James

Yes, thank you. Good morning. Just a question following up on distributor resale. Obviously, you and everyone else are reporting on a sell-in basis now. Can you help us to quantify how much the distribution inventory reduction has been a headwind in the second quarter and what's contemplated in your third quarter guidance? How significant is that?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

In both quarters, there is a significant reduction contemplated. I don't know that we're giving specific numbers there, Chris, but certainly, they're meaningful. We expect leaving the third quarter to be toward the lower end of our normal operating guidance for disti inventory.

Chris Caso
Analyst, Raymond James

Right. As a follow-up, any comments about how we should look at December? Obviously there's a lot of moving pieces on the macro, but with what you said on distribution inventory, I suppose that would be a tailwind as sell-in and sell out converge. Any other things we should be thinking about with respect to December?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah, we only give guidance one quarter at a time, but I would reiterate that we expect the distribution inventory correction to be largely over in Q3 of this year.

Chris Caso
Analyst, Raymond James

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our last question comes from the line of Craig Hettenbach with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Craig Hettenbach
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yes, thank you. Question for Keith on autos, and understanding it's a very challenging backdrop, particularly in China. It's also unusual in the quarter that's reported to see a big delta. If you can just give some color in terms of this cycle, what you're seeing from kind of tier 1 suppliers and OEMs and how they're maybe managing inventory that led to a much bigger drag in Q2?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

Yeah. A lot of dialogue occurred there, as you might have expected. I do believe that many of the auto suppliers remained more optimistic longer than I've seen in the past, and then decided to take some fairly decisive inventory corrections as they got through the second quarter. From my perspective, that's what's different this Q2 versus any of the others we've experienced.

Craig Hettenbach
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Got it. Just a quick follow-up. You've commented about distribution inventory and expectations into Q3. Any thoughts from an OEM perspective? I know that's been a little bit of a drag as well, but just how you see OEM inventory into Q3?

Keith Jackson
President and CEO, ON Semiconductor

This is more qualitative than quantitative. As we talk to our customer base, and particularly in the auto sector, we think they're largely going to be corrected at around the same time into Q3 to beginning of Q4.

Craig Hettenbach
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back to Parag Agarwal for any further remarks.

Parag Agarwal
VP of Corporate Development and Investor Relations, ON Semiconductor

Thank you everyone for joining the call today. We look forward to seeing you at various conferences during the quarter. Goodbye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude today's program. You may all disconnect.