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Earnings Call: Q2 2018

Jul 27, 2018

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Portland General Electric Company second quarter 2018 earnings results conference call. Today is Friday, July 27, 2018. This call is being recorded. As such, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the pound key on your telephone keypad. If you do intend to ask a question, please avoid using speakerphones. For opening remarks, I will turn the conference call over to Portland General Electric's Director of Investor Relations and Treasurer, Chris Liddle. Please go ahead, sir.

Chris Liddle
Senior Director, Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thank you, Evan. Good morning, everyone. I'm pleased that you're able to join us today. Before we begin our discussion this morning, I'd like to remind you that we have prepared a presentation to supplement our discussion, which we'll be referencing throughout the call. Slides are available on our website at investors.portlandgeneral.com. Referring to slide two, I'd like to make our customary statements regarding Portland General Electric's written and oral disclosures. There will be statements in this call that are not based on historical fact. As such, constitute forward-looking statements under current law. These statements are subject to factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements made today. For a description of some of the factors that may occur that could cause such differences, the company requests that you read our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Q.

Portland General Electric's second quarter earnings were released via our earnings press release in the Form 10-Q before the market opened today, both of which are available at our website. The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. This safe harbor statement should be incorporated as part of any transcript of this call. Leading our discussion today are Maria Pope, President and CEO, and Jim Lobdell, Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer. Following their prepared remarks, we will open the lines for your questions. It's my pleasure to turn the call over to Maria Pope.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to start with how pleased we are that we've settled the Carty Generating Station litigation. We anticipate the proceeds will fully offset the incremental construction costs and partially offset other damages. From the onset, protecting customers' interests drove our thinking, starting with the decision to require significant financial assurances from the general contractor, to taking decisive action in 2015 to replace the contractor who was in default, to the unrelenting dedication of our employees in bringing the plant into service safely and on time. Since going into service in 2016, Carty has provided customers with safe, reliable, and cost-effective energy and is operating at rates that are exceeding expectations. With the settlement reached, we intend to withdraw our deferral application at the Oregon Public Utility Commission.

We are increasing our full-year earnings guidance by $0.15 to $2.25-$2.40, $0.12 of which is associated with the Carty settlement, and the balance of which is attributable to improved gross margin due to temperatures that are better than expected this past winter when we initiated guidance. I'd like to provide an update on our financial and operating performance and the status of our renewable request for proposal. We will then turn the call over to Jim, who'll provide more details on our financial performance and guidance. Turning to slide four, we reported net income of $46 million, or $0.51 per share, compared with net income of $32 million, or $0.36 per share in the second quarter of 2017. Results were driven by lower natural gas prices, lower plant and distribution O&M, and higher Production Tax Credit generation.

These were partially offset by warmer than normal temperatures and increased administrative expenses. Overall, our operating performance from generation to transmission and distribution was very strong this past quarter. We are moving forward with offering customers more renewable and lower carbon options, including our renewable power option for large businesses and municipal customers, our transportation electrification plan, and our energy storage pilots. Thanks to customers' preference for green energy, PGE is once again number one in the nation for our voluntary renewable power program. I'm also pleased to report that PGE continues to be ranked in the top quartile for customer satisfaction for residential, business, and key customers, according to TQS Research and Market Strategies International. Turning to slide five, the bids are in for our renewable request for proposal regarding our need for 300-megawatt nameplate capacity. The process is expected to be highly competitive.

We are evaluating proposals alongside an independent evaluator. We plan to submit a short list of proposals to the OPUC in October, with final negotiations expected by the end of the year. I'm pleased to turn the call over to Jim.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thank you. As Maria mentioned, as shown on slide six, we're increasing full-year 2018 guidance to $2.25-$2.40 per diluted share. The increase is based on weather that was better than expected when we initiated established guidance in February of this year. Strong customer growth of 1.3%, which is helping increase our weather-adjusted forecast to relatively flat loads for the year and the settlement of the Carty litigation. The settlement contributes $0.12 per share to 2018 EPS. In addition, $120 million of the $130 million settlement will offset the undepreciated investment on our balance sheet in excess of what was included in customer prices. The residual $10 million, or $0.07 per share, will flow to A&G, along with another $0.05 now that we no longer are incurring further depreciation, interest, and litigation costs associated with the excess cost to complete the Carty facility.

The proceeds from the settlement will also partially offset our need to issue long and short-term debt. Turning to slide seven, which shows earnings drivers for the quarter. First, gross margin increased earnings by $0.01 due to the following: a $0.06 increase as a result of lower natural gas prices, which contributed to improved economic dispatch of our generating plants, and a $0.05 decrease due to warmer than prior year spring temperatures. Second, a $0.05 decrease in generation maintenance costs at three of PGE's thermal plants. The third driver is a $0.04 decrease related to distribution costs, as no major storms occurred in the second quarter of 2018 as compared with the major storms we experienced in 2017. The next driver is a $0.03 increase due to Production Tax Credits as a result of higher wind generation.

Finally, a $0.02 increase in other miscellaneous items, including outside services and administrative expenses. Moving on to slide eight. As we discussed on our first quarter call, our 2019 general rate case has been filed, and we are currently in the testimony phase. Several settlement discussions have been held with parties, and we have reached agreement on all power cost-related matters, as well as some non-power cost items such as cost to capital. Stipulations regarding these agreements are in progress and will become available in the coming weeks. We filed our reply testimony on the remaining items on July 13th and held additional settlement discussions on July 23rd and 24th. We expect a final order from the commission by the end of the year with a price change effective January 1st, 2019.

On slide nine, we provide a summary of the company's current capital expenditure forecast for 2018 to 2022. These expenditures are related to investments we are making to support our continued customer growth and build a more efficient, reliable, and secure system. As stated in our previous calls, we have not included any capital expenditures in our forecast related to the potential projects pursuant to our renewable RFP or energy storage proposal. Based upon cost projections and the regulatory process, we now expect storage expenditures to be approximately $45 million. On to slide 10. We continue to maintain a solid balance sheet, including strong liquidity and investment-grade credit ratings. I'm pleased to say that on July 18th, S&P Global upgraded PGE's issuer credit rating one notch from BBB to BBB+, and Portland General will be kept on positive outlook.

As of June 30th, we had cash available short-term credit and letter of credit capacity totaling $704 million, first mortgage bond issuance capacity of $1.1 billion, and a common equity ratio of 49.9%. In 2018, we expect to fund estimated capital requirements with cash from operations, debt issuances up to $75 million, and commercial paper as needed. Now, operator, we're ready for questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press the star then the one key on your touchtone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. Our first question comes from Paul Ridzon with KeyBank.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning, how are you?

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Good, thanks. Jim, I'm sorry, I was distracted when you gave the breakout of the $0.12 related to the Carty litigation settlement. What's the $0.07?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

The $0.07 associated with Carty? When you look at Carty, we have avoided costs. Actually, I didn't go completely through it in the script. When you look at the Carty settlement, originally, when we set guidance for the year, we assumed that we had about $0.05, well, we had $0.12 worth of costs associated with it. It was the drag. Now that we have a settlement, we're going to avoid some of those costs for the balance of the year. I put that about $0.05. Then if you look at the settlement itself, the $10 million that's going to drop to the bottom line. That $10 million really represents about $0.07. We're going to push that towards the A&G line. If you're looking for it in the income statement.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

If you were

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Is that helpful?

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

I thought you got less than you expected, I thought there would be a net negative.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

You mean less than If you looked at the overall cost associated with the above construction costs and the cost to settle. Yes, we didn't cover 100%. What we did cover with the $130 million is we were able to cover the undepreciated amount of that overage that was currently on our books that we're not recovering from customers. The amounts above the $514 that are in customer prices.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

We're very pleased with the settlement, and as such, reflecting an improved outlook and guidance.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Yes. Congratulations on the settlement. You did quite well. Thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Our next question comes from Julien Dumoulin-Smith of Bank of America.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, good morning.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning, Julien.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey. Wanted to follow up on a couple comments. Maybe Maria, turning to you first, can you elaborate a little bit on, if you can, of those bids that have come in for the renewable opportunity, what proportion are rate basable, ownership, build and transfer type opportunities relative to straight and more linear PPA opportunities, at least as the list of projects that have come in today?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Julien, thank you for your question. We have a very competitive process and received a number of bids. I'm sorry, but unfortunately, we're not able to talk about any of them in any detail, and are currently in the beginnings of the evaluation process with an independent evaluator. We will be presenting in October to the OPUC the results of those evaluations, along with the independent evaluator. We hope to be finished with the process by the end of the year, as we're targeting capturing the production tax credits for the benefit of customers with this project.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Fair enough. Turning some more detailed questions. As you look at the issues in the docket in the rate case, how do you think about addressing some of the questions around the asks for the rate base number? Just high level. It seems like a number of the issues in the docket seem to be pending around that.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Well, this is not going to be a good day for you, Julien, as far as giving you some additional information. As I mentioned in my remarks, we've settled cost of capital, we have settled our net variable power costs, and we've had settlement discussions associated with a great deal of other items in the case. Those settlements will come out in testimony here very shortly. We're going to hold until we see that testimony filed with the commission, those stipulations.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. When's that filing?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

It should be any week now. We're just waiting for the parties to finish and put their pens down.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. All right. I think I got one that you can answer. Can you speak about how you think about load improving, given 0% load forecast you gave for 2019 in the testimony?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure. We are still seeing the implications of traditional industries in the Pacific Northwest using less energy. While we are seeing new industries, particularly data centers, even a synthetic diamond manufacturing company, come into our area. We do have a gap in terms of timing, as many of those industries coming in need to finish their procurement of property, of construction, and begin operations. Long term, we're very optimistic around our growth rate of about 1%, and that is a result of strong growth in the region. As I mentioned the last call, you can feel it in terms of the construction in Portland in particular. We also have growth in apparel, footwear manufacturing, as Nike, Columbia, and Adidas all have construction under process.

Near term, we expect to see flat load growth as we're forecasting for the balance of the year.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah. I'd actually add to Maria's comments there. You've got to keep in mind that in 2017, we had a large paper company, and we had a solar manufacturer that was also operating at that point in time. For us to come out and say that we're going to flat loads and we're absorbing that decrease, it just underlines the comment around the growth that we're seeing.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

That's a good point.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America

All right. Excellent. Can I just go back real quickly to clarify on the settlement too? Are all the issues up for settlement here right now, just to make sure I understand your last comment, just in terms of expectations once something's filed here? Or is the expectation basically to be able to arrange a settlement around at least a number of issues? I don't want to put any words in your mouth.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We are settling a number of issues. As I mentioned, we settled cost of capital, and we settled net variable power costs, and that testimony is pretty much complete. Expecting it to be filed here very shortly. On July 23rd and 24th, we had additional settlement discussions, and we were able to come to agreement on several other items. It's going to take a little bit longer to get that testimony together and get it filed, but we're making good progress. There are still some big differences between the company and the parties regarding what we do with full weather decoupling and what we do with our storm balancing account. A lot more work to be done on those particular issues.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America

All right. Excellent. Well, thank you very much.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Julien.

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Fremont with Mizuho.

Paul Fremont
Analyst, Mizuho

Thank you very much, and congratulations on a good quarter.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thank you.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you.

Paul Fremont
Analyst, Mizuho

My question is, would there be alternatives for additional spending, if you were not successful in winning the RFP later this year? If so, what types of alternatives would you potentially see?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Well, regardless of the RFP results, we're focusing on the aging infrastructure that we have in our service territory, whether it be underground cables, whether it be switches, whether it be transformers that have PCBs that are greater than levels that we think are necessary. We're continuing to deal with the customer growth that we had been mentioning a little bit earlier. We're seeing it across all classes, that's causing us to rebuild substations and add substations and so on and so forth. On top of that, we've got the reliability upgrades associated with seismic. We haven't included anything in our CapEx numbers regarding storage. We're looking at the integration of our operations and further visibility into our distribution network as well. We've got a lot on our plate ahead of us, and we're moving as fast as we can.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

We will have further guidance with regards to capital expenditures for 2019 and beyond on our October earnings call, which is traditionally when we update our capital forecast for the street.

Paul Fremont
Analyst, Mizuho

Great. I guess my other question is, you guys historically have had some fairly significant below-the-line expenses. Is there any action that you can take to potentially mitigate some of that expense?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We're always looked at that, Paul. What we call it is the structural drag. It's about 80 basis points, with the change in the tax law, it actually moved up because we lost some of the tax shield associated with that. The expenses didn't move up, the tax shield decreased. We're continuing to focus on it and trying to see what progress we can make.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Over the years, we have a really good track record of reducing that amount. I think most importantly is reducing the risk that we see from different weather, whether it is storm restoration costs, whether it is hydro, wind, and other expenses. You'll see that in our current rate case filing, we've tried to address a number of those to be more similar to other utilities across the country.

Paul Fremont
Analyst, Mizuho

Great. Thank you very much.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. Maria, y'all talked a little bit, and I know you always give guidance on CapEx in the third quarter call, but just curious. A few quarters or so ago, you talked about the aging of substations, and it's been a little bit quiet on that front. Can you give an update or give some color or insight on, are you talking about just transmission, or are you talking about both transmission and distribution substations? If so, how many are we talking about? Is this just a one-off one or two? How many do you actually have?

Is there a way, I know you'll quantify and update the plan, but if I wanted to just do a back of the envelope, a way to start thinking about sometime, maybe not in the next one or two years, but a much, much longer horizon, how much incremental work needs to be done to upgrade or replace those?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure. Well, Jim has commented on this for a number of quarters. What we're seeing is the compounding issues of technological change and a need to be able to accommodate distributed generation throughout our service territory, the aging infrastructure that we have, and then the very substantial growth. In particular, the very substantial growth puts pressure not only on our substations and our distribution system, but also on our transmission system. You'll see opportunities for investment in both areas. In terms of the total number of substations, we have just under 200 substations throughout our system, and we'll be focusing on those that are the oldest, those that are in areas where you'll see more distributed generation soonest, and then also areas of significant growth.

Which tends to be either in the inner core of the Portland downtown area or in some of our very fast-growing regions that are driven by a lot of technological companies coming in.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you, Maria. Then one question on battery or storage. Can you remind me, what was it the legislation said about, A, how much of that has to be or could be utility-owned versus has to be contracted or PPA'd, and B, what's the timeframe for when you have to have it implemented by?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure. They didn't specify ownership in the legislation. What they specified was to really move on and better understand batteries' implications into our system and to start with some pilots. We've announced projects totaling about 39 megawatts and have settled on four of five points with all of the parties. As Jim mentioned in his opening remarks, we're looking at capital expenditures of about $45 million, which is not reflected in our guidance.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

When is that? Is that a 2018 number or is that something further out in the-

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

No, it would be-

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

in the horizon

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

2019 at the earliest.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

That actually is something that we need to begin to address. Technology and the cost of storage is moving faster than our regulatory processes in some instances.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Would that not be covered by the tracker? Like you have a wind tracker when you do new wind plans, you could get incremental revenue relatively quickly. By the way, my apologies, Jim, I didn't mean to cut you off there. Does storage not fall under that?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

It is an open issue that we have amongst the parties right now, Michael. That is one issue, and another issue is ownership of storage technology on utility property. The thought of somebody else putting storage technology inside one of our substations and being able to control it is something that we're not amenable to.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

You can imagine the cybersecurity and other security concerns that we end up having.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Safety and reliability.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Yeah

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

concerns, yeah.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Understood. Thank you guys. Much appreciated. Y'all have a good weekend. Appreciate the help.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

You too, Michael.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you. You too.

Operator

Our next question comes from Agustina Calisa with Mizuho.

Agustina Calisa
Analyst, Mizuho

Hi, everyone.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Good morning.

Agustina Calisa
Analyst, Mizuho

I'm just curious about what are your assumptions in the updated guidance in terms of the NVPC, given that in the 10-Q, we can see that you're already at like $27 million below the baseline.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

That has been factored into that guidance as we are looking forward.

Agustina Calisa
Analyst, Mizuho

Perfect. Has that changed from previous guidance?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

It has helped manage the guidance, some of the other costs-

that we're seeing. It's balancing some other costs in there, so it is fully baked-

Agustina Calisa
Analyst, Mizuho

Perfect

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

into the guidance.

Agustina Calisa
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay, great. Thank you. That was my only question.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Okay. Thank you.

Agustina Calisa
Analyst, Mizuho

No problem.

Operator

Our next question comes from Travis Miller with Morningstar.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Good morning. Thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning. Morning, Travis Miller.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

You answered most of my questions I was going to ask on the CapEx, I'll throw one more in there. Electric vehicles, when you look out to 2021, 2022, any kind of update in the last three, six months that would give you any more clarity in terms of whether there's material upside on the EV side-

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

apart from the distribution?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure. No, absolutely. We are really bullish with regards to electric vehicles. We're in the process of working through agreements on six Electric Avenue and have announced some. I will tell you, we have much more interest than we have capability through the results of our docket at the PUC. We're also working very closely with our transit authority, who is looking on an all-electric bus route, and then further electrification of the TriMet bus system. I think most of our enthusiasm comes from what we're hearing from consumers and from municipalities, as well as from car manufacturers in terms of their focus on improving electric vehicles and speed to delivery of those. I think we'll see a significant change, maybe not in the next year or two, but certainly within five, it should be very dramatic, and in particular in areas like Portland and the metropolitan region.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Would that be incremental to that 450 type run rate that you talked about?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Yes, much of that would be incremental.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Real quick on the cash flow timing for the settlement. What are the next steps in terms of cash flow?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Well, Travis, we are anticipating that we will receive the settlement dollars here very shortly. As I mentioned, it'll help offset some of the financing that we otherwise would have had to have done this year. We've got $75 million, or up to $75 million, that we'd do in the fourth quarter. Actually, it was higher, but now it's $75 given the settlement.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. The 75 would be left to do.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Exactly.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Got it. Thank you very much.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Travis.

Operator

Our next question is a follow-up from Paul Ridzon with KeyBank.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Welcome back, Paul.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Thank you. Your capital forecast, this has no placeholders for any RFP wins?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Exactly right. There's nothing in there for wind nor storage.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

If you're successful, would it be 100% additive, or would there be a reshuffling of the deck and maybe pushing some capital out?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

That's yet to be determined.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Okay, unrelated. Been reading a lot about Northwest and crypto mining and wondering if you're seeing any of that load.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No, we're not. Not like what Mid-Columbias are seeing or even Idaho is seeing.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

What we're seeing in distinct contrast is well-capitalized digital companies wanting to place data centers here, as well as others wanting to place fulfillment centers and other pretty stable operations.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Seems like a little more preferable to kind of a volatile crypto market. Thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Patterson with Glenrock.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Morning.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock

Good morning.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning, Paul.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock

Just really quickly, the SB 978, there's been a proceeding going on, and I've been reading your comments, which were actually interesting. I wanted to just get, A, your sense as to where that proceeding was going. B, you guys make comments about support for a PBR mechanism. You guys seem supportive of it. I was wondering what you guys might be seeing there and what kind of opportunities maybe you guys see with respect to this proceeding.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure. That's a great question. First of all, 978 is the Senate bill that requested the Oregon Public Utility Commission to look into industry trends, new technologies, and policy drivers that would be impacting the existing regulatory framework that we have in Oregon. We've had a number of meetings centered around different areas of concern, with a pretty extensive group of interveners and parties, and commission staff and commissioners. The report is due to the legislature in mid-September, and there may or may not be drafts that are publicly available between now and then. We have felt that the process has gone very well and has been very inclusive and constructive.

With regards to performance-based rates, we did mention that in our testimony, and we actually are already in front of the commission with an example of the sort of thing we're talking about, which is a green tariff to be able to sell 100% green energy to large corporations or other customers, in particular municipalities, that want to move 100% green faster. It would essentially be a cost-based program with a margin adder. You can see that morphing off into other performance-based alternatives as we move forward.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock

Okay. It sounds like it's kind of, I guess somewhat modest in terms of what you're looking at in terms of performance base. You're not thinking of anything really substantially changing the regulatory construct that you currently have. Is that the right way to think of it? You see it more as potentially evolutionary as opposed to anything really significant?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Yeah, absolutely. The current construct that we have serves parties really well. In particular in Oregon, we're facing increasing concerns around equity. We are addressing that very carefully. I think that you'll see that traditionally in Oregon, we have an evolutionary process rather than a revolutionary process with regards to ratemaking. Jim, anything you want to add?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No. There's a lot of time to run in that process and a lot more discovery to occur. I would say there's not a lot at this particular point in time that we can point to, but more to come.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock

Just to clarify, when you talk about equity, you're talking about in a social context, you're not talking about equity in terms of a financial context?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Yes, exactly. In terms of a social context.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock

Right.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

In serving all customers.

Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock

Right. Okay. Thanks so much, and have a great weekend.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

You as well.

Operator

Our next question comes from Andy Levi with ExodusPoint.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Hey, guys.

Morning, Andy. Morning.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Congrats on the settlement. That was really good.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

I think I'm all set, because people seem to ask really good questions. I think the only thing just on the regulatory process on the rate case, there's actually, what, three items that we're still waiting for, as far as while the five more settlement-wise, the three major items, which was the decoupling, right? That's number one. The smoothing-

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Storm balancing account.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Right. The smoothing of the wind, isn't that also as well?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No, the smoothing of the wind. It's the weather decoupling, it's the storm balancing account. We've got what we call the Hinge Fit model, which has to do with load forecasting.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Okay.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

That's just looking at more recent trends that we have been seeing.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

I thought there was something, or maybe that's in the weather, but where on the wind side where you wouldn't have as much volatility as far as wind resource. Or am I mistaken on that?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No. What we've been operating under, what we used to do is we had a profile associated with a wind farm, and that profile would be used throughout time. We changed the regulatory construct around that, so we're now using a 5-year rolling average. Now it's tracking a little bit closer. It's moving closer towards that, the average that we're seeing. The other thing that happened out there was the Production Tax Credits used to only be set in a general rate case, and now the Production Tax Credits are reset in the annual update tariff filing every year.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Right. That was actually really important, actually, because as the contracts rolled off, right? Or PTCs rolled off, I should say.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Exactly.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Just on the two items that I guess I have the focus on, can you give any type of characterization as far as how the negotiations are going? Are you optimistic that you and the staff and the interveners can work out a settlement on this? Or whatever you want to say.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

If the two that you're referring to, Andy, is the decoupling and the storm balancing account.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Yes

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

I'd say that the parties have a long ways to go at this point.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Okay. Thank you very much, and have a great weekend.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

You too. Good to hear from you, Andy.

Andy Levi
Analyst, ExodusPoint

Yep.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ashar Khan with Verition .

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning.

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

Hi, good morning.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning.

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

I wanted to normalize the earnings, if I understand them correctly, if you can, just as we build for next year. You had started off the year in your guidance, the old guidance. There were going to be $0.12 of Carty litigation stuff that was going to hurt you. You are reversing that, say, those $0.12, but starting for next year, those $0.12 would not have hurt you if the litigation had been settled January 1, right? In theory, the earnings power of the business is up $0.12 because of this settlement permanently, as we look at the guidance. If I'm correct, you also said, if you could remind me, the negative weather from normal impact was like $0.07. Is that correct for the year?

When you came up with the original guidance at the end of the year in the February call.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah. If you look at the guidance that we provided back in February, embedded in that guidance was the implications of the second warmest January we ever experienced. We had about $0.11 in there for weather. In addition to that, we had $0.12 associated with continuing to pursue the litigation in Carty and trying to recover the excess cost of construction. As we look at 2018 full-year guidance, now that we have seen better weather coming out of the first quarter, we have looked at the weather component, that $0.11, and we've said we really only experienced three, we're going to put $0.07 back associated with weather. We turn to the Carty, as we looked at Carty, as I mentioned, we had $0.12 in there associated with that.

Now that we've settled Carty, we believe that we've got avoided costs for the balance of the year, then the repercussions of the actual settlement. The combination of those two add $0.12 back into earnings as well.

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

What is the negative $0.04, right? That 12 plus 7 would make it 19, right? There came a negative 4 somewhere. Could you just elaborate where the negative 4 came in from?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We've got a lot of the year still to go, we are just making sure that we are at some safety in meeting our numbers.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

One of the things that you should note by looking at last year's third quarter and even the beginning of the fourth quarter is that peak power prices tend to be quite volatile during the heat of the summer in the Pacific Northwest and in the entire West. I would not consider that $0.04 just to be sandbaggy per se, but to be really reflective of the environment of the third quarter and beyond.

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

Okay. Fair point. Can I just, this higher O&M, is that something which is permanent or is it just being utilized this year for certain reasons? It kind of like tracks back as I look into next year as I build my kind of models. Could you elaborate a little bit on that?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Can you clarify that a little bit?

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

You increased your-

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

O&M

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

O&M guidance by $10 million, right? From what you provided in the February, right, if I'm correct, you increased your O&M guidance by $10 million. I'm trying to understand whether that is kind of one-time in nature items this year, or is it kind of something you projected not properly and it's kind of a permanent increase. That's what I'm trying to get at.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

That O&M is reflective of increased activity throughout our service territory. As I mentioned, we're in an area that's growing quite rapidly, and while near-term our load growth may not be growing, we're seeing immigration in terms of about 1.3% and new connects that are higher than we've had in any previous recent years and are doing a lot of work along those areas. Jim also mentioned the repair work that we're doing to our system. Those costs are aligned with our most recent general rate case, and are important in meeting customer needs.

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

Okay. The last question, if I may ask, what is the impact of, say, right, you improve your sales forecast by about 50 basis points for the year. What is the earnings impact of that 50 basis points increase? Could you give us some kind of a thought process on that?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Any changes that we have in our revenue forecast is all baked into the guidance that we provided.

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

Okay, you don't have some kind of a rule factor of rule of thumb work, 1% equals in terms of earnings?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

No, we don't.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No, we don't.

Ashar Khan
Analyst, Verition Fund Management

Okay. Thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Kevin Fallon with Citadel.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Morning.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning, Kevin.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Hi. Just a quick clarification on the battery storage CapEx, the $45 million. Have you guys already won that? Is that already been determined that that's going to be company-owned?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

No. It is not determined. As Jim mentioned, there's current debate over that, in particular on one of the projects.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

When should we have clarity on that?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Oh, I would expect sometime in the later third quarter, maybe fourth quarter.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay. Just the last thing. On the deferral of the billing system, where does that stand, and has that been flowed through the second quarter numbers?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

The deferral is in the numbers. We've got to wait until 2019 till the year is closed out before the commission can really address it.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

What's the capital associated with the billing system?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Kevin, we changed out our complete billing system, our customer billing and collection system and the metering system. So it's associated with that. It went into service in May of this year, so it's effectively the D&A associated with it from the point in time that it went into place or went into commercial operations till the year-end.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay. That's great. Listen, thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

All right. Thanks, Kevin.

Operator

I'm not showing any further questions at this time.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Great. We very much appreciate your interest in Portland General Electric, and we invite you to join us when we report our third quarter earnings in late October. Thanks, and have a great weekend.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.