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Earnings Call: Q1 2018

Apr 27, 2018

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Portland General Electric Company's first quarter 2018 earnings results conference call. Today is Friday, April 27th, 2018. This call is being recorded, and as such, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star and then the one key on your touchtone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key on your telephone keypad. If you do intend to ask a question, please avoid the use of speakerphones. For opening remarks, I will turn the conference over to Portland General Electric's Director of Investor Relations and Treasury, Chris Lytle. Please go ahead, sir.

Chris Lytle
Director of Investor Relations and Treasury, Portland General Electric

Thank you, Sabrina. Good morning, everyone, and pleased that you're able to join us today. Before we begin our discussion this morning, I'd like to remind you that we have prepared a presentation to supplement our discussion, which we'll be referencing throughout the call. The slides are available on our website at investors.portlandgeneral.com. Referring to slide two, I'd like to make our customary statements regarding Portland General Electric's written and oral disclosures. There will be statements in this call that are not based on historical fact, and as such, constitute forward-looking statements under current law. These statements are subject to factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements made today. For a description of some of the factors that may occur that could cause such differences, the company requests that you read our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Q.

Portland General Electric's first quarter earnings were released via our earnings press release and the Form 10-Q before the market opened today, both of which are available at our website. The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. This safe harbor statement should be incorporated as part of any transcript of this call. Leading our discussion today are Maria Pope, President and CEO, and Jim Lobdell, the Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer. Following their prepared remarks, we will open the lines for your questions. It's my pleasure to turn the call over to Maria Pope.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Welcome to Portland General Electric's first quarter earnings call. On today's call, I will provide an update on our financial and operating performance, the economy in our service area, the status of our renewable request for proposal. I will then turn the call over to Jim, who'll provide more details on our financial performance and guidance. Turning to slide four. We reported net income of $64 million, or $0.72 per diluted share, compared with net income of $73 million, or $0.82 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2017. Winter weather was significantly warmer than the prior year, which drove a quarter-over-quarter decrease in energy deliveries. This was partially offset by a decrease in distribution expense as a result of less storm-driven system restoration and repair work.

We are reaffirming our 2018 full-year earnings guidance of $2.10 to $2.25 per diluted share. On Wednesday, PGE's Board of Directors approved our 12th consecutive annual dividend increase since we went public in 2006. The 6.6% increase reflects our commitment to providing competitive returns for investors, strong business fundamentals, and long-term growth as we increase our mix of clean energy and invest in a more resilient and secure grid. On to slide five for operational and economic highlights. This month, as part of our ongoing commitment to providing customers with 100% clean energy, we filed an application with the Oregon Public Utility Commission, or OPUC, seeking approval for new renewable power options for large business and municipal customers. This program supports cost-effective local and regional renewable power development by enabling customers to work with PGE to purchase directly from new solar, wind, or renewable energy facilities.

In February, we received OPUC approval for our transportation and electrification plan. Under this plan, PGE and TriMet, our local mass transit authority, are installing and managing new charging stations that will enable Oregon's first all-electric bus route. PGE is also expanding EV charging station infrastructure across our service area. I am pleased to share that PGE continues to be ranked in the top quartile for customer satisfaction for residential, business, and key customers, according to Market Strategies International and TQS Research. Additionally, we were again recognized as an environmental champion for 2018, according to MFI. Turning to the economic health of our service area, unemployment remains stable at 3.6%, with initial claim levels unseen since the late '80s and early '90s. Population growth is 1.8%, largely fueled by immigration. As such, we are seeing an increase in building permits of 12.3%, compared to 4.5% nationally.

Oregon also saw the largest percent increase for multifamily units permitted in 2017, and at 32 construction cranes Portland has the most cranes per capita of reported U.S. metropolitan areas. These strong economic indicators are driving total customer count growth of approximately 1.4% and gives us confidence in our long-term load growth forecast of 1%. As we discussed on our last quarterly earnings call, we expect 2018 weather-adjusted energy deliveries to decline up to 1%, in large part due to the closure of a large paper company in late 2017 and the impact of energy efficiency. Turning to slide six, I'd like to provide an update on our renewable request for proposal. Following the acknowledgment of the 100 average megawatt renewable need identified in our 2016 Integrated Resource Plan, we expect to issue a final RFP in early May, with proposals due by June.

A shortlist of proposals should be finalized in October, with a notice to proceed by the end of the year. Now I'm pleased to turn the call over to Jim.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thank you, Maria. Moving to slide seven. As we shared on our fourth quarter call, we filed our 2019 General Rate Case with the OPUC in February of this year. We are currently in the discovery phase of the General Rate Case process, with staff and interveners' opening testimonies due on June 6th, followed by a settlement conference scheduled for June 18th. Regulatory review of the 2019 GRC will continue throughout 2018, with the commission expected to issue a final order by the end of 2018. In regards to tax reform, we are currently deferring the net benefits of the lower federal tax rate, which we expect to refund to customers over future periods. Turning to slide eight, which shows our earnings driver for the quarter.

First, gross margin decreased earnings by $0.18 due to the following: a $0.15 decrease due to an exceptionally cold winter in 2017, and a $0.03 decrease due to unfavorable weather in 2018. While January was warmer than normal, cooler than normal temperatures in February and March helped to offset some of the unfavorable weather in January. Second, a $0.05 favorable increase related to distribution costs, as no major storms occurred in the first quarter of 2018. The next driver is a $0.04 decrease due to lower generation maintenance cost, and finally, a $0.01 decrease in other miscellaneous items. On to slide nine, we provide a summary of the company's current capital expenditure forecast from 2018 to 2022, which includes additional investments in 2018 as compared to our previous forecast.

These expenditures are related to investments we are making to support the continued customer growth and build a more efficient, reliable, and secure system. For example, we're replacing and upgrading substations and other distribution and transmission equipment. As we identify opportunities for additional investments, we will incorporate them into our capital forecast when appropriate. As stated in our previous calls, we have not included any capital expenditures in our forecast related to the potential projects pursuant to our renewable RFP or energy storage proposal, which, based upon cost projections and regulatory process, we now expect energy storage expenditures would be approximately $50 million. On to slide 10, we continue to maintain a solid balance sheet, including strong liquidity and investment-grade credit ratings.

As of March 31st, 2018, we had cash and short-term credit and available letter of credit capacity totaling $719 million, first mortgage bond issuance capacity of $1.1 billion, and a common equity ratio of 49.7%. In 2018, we expect to fund estimated capital requirements with cash from operations, the issuance of debt securities of up to $150 million, and commercial paper as needed. As shown on slide 11, we are reaffirming our full year 2018 earnings guidance of $2.10 to $2.25 per diluted share based on the following assumptions. A decline in retail deliveries between 0% and 1%, weather adjusted. Normal hydro conditions for the remainder of the year based on current hydro forecast. Wind generation for the remainder of the year based on five years of historical levels or forecast studies when historical data is not available. Normal thermal plant operations for the remainder of the year.

Depreciation and amortization expense between $365 million and $385 million. Operating and maintenance expense between $575 million and $595 million. Our 2018 guidance assumes that the OPUC approval of the deferral application to capture the revenue requirement associated with our customer information system replacement project, which is expected to be placed in service during the second quarter of 2018. Please note that the equity return portion of an approved deferral would not be recognized on the income statement until we begin amortizing. Back to you, Maria.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Jim. In closing, Oregonians and PGE are at the forefront of a transformation to a clean energy future. We remain committed to delivering safe, reliable, affordable, clean, and secure energy. Now, operator, we're ready for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the pound sign on your telephone keypad. If you do intend to ask a question, please avoid the use of speakerphones. Our first question will come from the line of Christopher Turnure with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Christopher Turnure
Analyst, JPMorgan

Good morning, Maria and Jim.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Good morning, Chris.

Christopher Turnure
Analyst, JPMorgan

I wanted to get a little bit more color on your thinking and the board's thinking behind the 6.6% dividend raise this week. It's towards the higher end of the past couple of years of raises that you guys have done. On our estimate, at least for this year, brings you kind of squarely in the upper half of your payout target range. I wanted to kind of understand your thinking amid a longer-term kind of context here on that.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure. Thank you. As the board declared earlier this week, a 6.6% increase in our dividend, it really reflects the strong fundamentals of our business. First and foremost, a growing service territory. As I mentioned in my earlier remarks, strong growth, not only in terms of immigration into the state, customer load count, but also weather-adjusted load long-term looks very strong. Behind that is our investments, particularly in grid infrastructure, as well as in clean energy, and a concern and focus on making sure that we are delivering value for all stakeholders and shareholders in particular.

Christopher Turnure
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. Implicit in that is, or I should say, is there implicit in that any desire to not preserve capital for future needs a year or two down the road?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Jim can get into that further, but we feel confident in our capital availability at this point in time.

Christopher Turnure
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. Despite the 6.6% increase. Okay. My second question is on the CIS deferral. I heard your comments, Jim, but I wanted to make sure I understood them. You're saying that you guys will be able to defer basically the depreciation on that asset placed into service beginning in the second quarter of this year, but no return would be deferred? Also, if you could just give us an update on maybe your conversations with interveners so far on that request.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We've had a request for the cost associated with the development of the CIS system. When it goes live in the second quarter, we'll file a deferral to capture the depreciation amortization associated with that, then we will have the conversation at a particular point in time with the interveners regarding the recovery of it.

Christopher Turnure
Analyst, JPMorgan

It's basically too early to tell if we have a window into whether or not that were to get approved.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yes.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Yes.

Christopher Turnure
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay, got it. Thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. Really one or two. The increase in CapEx for this year, you've already filed the rate case. How do you get that CapEx into the rate case process? Is that just a known and measurable filing, or does that incremental $100 million just hold over till the next time you file?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Michael, those dollars are not factored into our General Rate Case filing for 2019. It'll be part of the decision-making as to what we would do on a follow-on filing.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. There's no way to file an adjusted number during a known and measurables process?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Not unless we want to restart the process, and that's not something we're interested in.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Totally understand. This is a little bit of housekeeping item. In your guidance, what do you assume is your kind of your tax rate for income statement purposes?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

The effective tax rate that we're assuming is somewhere between 11%-15%.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. That's for kind of the GAAP income statement. I'm trying to separate kind of income statement and cash flow, what you actually wind up paying in cash taxes.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We're expecting to pay minimal cash taxes because of the fact that we've got the PTCs.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Finally, on the storage, I want to check in. You made some comments about the transportation electrification, and I know you've also been kind of contemplating, and there's been a docket around energy storage. Can you talk a little bit about kind of when you think capital could be invested in either of those and any ballpark around kind of what the impact on the capital budget of either of those two items could be?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Sure. With regards to the electrification transportation projects that we have going on, it is not a lot of capital, Michael, but it will move us forward quite significantly in our partnership with TriMet, the regional transit authority here. I would expect that we will see further capital expenditures in the next couple of years after this initial plan, which is largely a sort of a smaller program. In terms of battery storage, we had previously had slightly higher indications of capital. We've gone up to $50 million at this point in time. There's no significant change here, but rather that we're going through the normal regulatory processes and honing sort of where we are. Certainly, on the battery storage in particular, we would like to be moving faster than the docketed process that we have and more aggressively.

Again, this is the normal course sort of regulatory environment that we have.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah. There's a whole bunch of pilot programs that are involved in the battery storage. It's looking at putting batteries next to solar facilities. It's putting batteries in substations or next to capacity units. It's looking at microgrids and then looking at residential applications as well. There's a lot of work that still needs to be done.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Last item, and just trying to think through to the renewable RFP. If you win that project, and on a nameplate capacity, it's kind of roughly 300 megawatts or so, how do you think about how you finance that?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

At this point in time, we're thinking that we can finance this with available cash from operations on additional debt as we move forward.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

It really just depends on the size of the project. As we all know, we've still got a lot of process to go through to figure out exactly what it's going to look like in the end. We think it's going to be a very competitive process, so we're looking forward to that.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Yes.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you, guys. Much appreciated.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks, Michael.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question will come from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith. Your line is now open.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hey, good morning.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning, Julien.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Morning.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

I wanted to follow up on a couple items. First, with respect to the higher CapEx, can you elaborate a little bit on the timing of the update? I suppose, typically, we see the update with third quarter every year around these substations. Is it a new policy, or should we still expect to see the latest sort of full plan delineated by third quarter?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Usually, Julien, you'll see it in the third quarter, as we become aware of things or they become to be more solid in our planning, then we'll include them in the updates. Typically, it would be the third quarter.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Got it. Can I read between the lines? Is this like a customer growth piece of the equation that's driving the acceleration?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

This would be investments in our operations for reliability, resiliency, and certainly we're seeing a lot of customer growth in our area.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Got it. All right, excellent. Just turning to the latest on the Oregon Commission here, is there any potential delays from the latest changes in composition given just the two remaining there? Does that not really have any kind of meaningful impact operationally day-to-day in terms of the Commission's ability to move forward? What does a tie even mean in terms of any of your pending dockets on any vote?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

No, it's a great question, Julien. I don't believe there will be any delay. The governor is contemplating names that she will put forth to the legislature, probably by the end of today or early next week, to fill the vacant spots. Megan Decker has already been named Chair of the Commission to replace Lisa Hardie, who has announced her desire to resign this spring.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Got it. All right, excellent. Good to hear. Lastly, just to reconcile the renewables procurement. Is there a potential that it's multiple projects, or is this really going to be fixated on just a single project here as you think about the, call it nameplate 300 MW?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

We really don't know. Clearly, economies of scale would favor a larger project, but we could also see multiple projects being bid in that would be very competitive. As Jim mentioned, it'll be a competitive process.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Right. Absolutely. It's not known necessarily if you're necessarily partnering with anyone specifically, or it's not necessarily necessary yet either, right? You don't necessarily need to identify any build-own-transfer opportunities until after perhaps the initial, I suppose, proposals come out.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Well, the only thing that we have put out there publicly, Julien, is the fact that we've got a benchmark project that we are proposing to put into the RFP process. We find that when we do that, the process becomes very competitive, and we get great prices for our customers, great investment opportunities.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Excellent. I'll leave it there. Thank you all. Take care.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Paul Ridzon with KeyBank. Your line is now open.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Thank you. How much of a drag is the loss of the paper? How much of that 1% is driven by that?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Loss of the paper?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

This is a paper company.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

You mean a drag in earnings? A drag in load?

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Load growth.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We haven't shared that. That would be giving out customer information.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Okay.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

It's not insignificant.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

It was a significant change year-over-year.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Right. Yeah.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

What was the wind capacity factor for the quarter?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

I think it was about 31%, 32%.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

It was up quite a bit this quarter, primarily because last year's first quarter was significantly below normal, at about 19%.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

What's the 15-year historic norm?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

What's normal? We're still trying to figure that one out. Sorry to be flippant, but we haven't seen what we thought would be normal for the last several years. We're starting to see things start to coalesce, but I think we got a little bit more of a track record to go.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

What's the structural regulatory lag in basis points we should be thinking about?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

It's about, well, on a dollar amount or on a percentage of basis points?

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Both.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

On a dollar amount. Go ahead, Paul.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Basis points would be actually more helpful.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah. I'd say it's more around 70 basis points.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Okay. Any actions you could do to kind of work that down, or is that kind of probably stuck there for a while?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We're continuing to look at to see if there are ways to get a better cost recovery of the items that are included in that. That's an ongoing project, an ongoing conversation that we have with the commission. Actually, I'm going to correct my statement on basis points. It's more around 80 basis points, 80-85 basis points right now. It represents about $29 million, excluding Carty.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Okay. Thank you very much.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Keep in mind, that's pre-tax.

Paul Ridzon
Analyst, KeyBank

Okay. Understood. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question will come from the line of Augustina Glaza with Mizuho. Your line is now open.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Hi. Good morning. I just wanted to get a sense of the weather-adjusted decline in retail deliveries for the quarter, especially since you're reiterating guidance with up to a 1% decline in retail deliveries for the year.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Actually, for loads, on a weather-adjusted basis for the quarter, they were actually up a half a %.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

I think Maria had mentioned this earlier. When you look back behind it, residential was up about 1.2% on a weather-adjusted basis.

Driven by about 1.4% customer count increase. That was partially offset by energy efficiency out there.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Commercial was down about 1.4%, weather adjusted, and we've just got a weakness in a few sectors. Industrial was up about 2.4%, and that was more or less fueled by the high-tech sector.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Which would be more on the semiconductor side.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Perfect. Can you give us an update on the Carty litigation? I don't know if there's any update on the timeframe.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No, not at this particular point in time. We had an arbitration in front of a panel early this month, it was to figure out are the claims arbitrable in front of the International Chamber of Commerce.

Who the parties would be. We won't know the outcome of that for a while. Until we hear something from that panel, I think we're just kind of on hold.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay, perfect. Just, what would you expect the hydro conditions to be throughout the year?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Right, Matt?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

We're looking at about normal.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay. Okay, thank you so much.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Thanks.

Augustina Glaza
Analyst, Mizuho

Have a good day. Bye-bye.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question at this time, please press star and then the 1 key on your touchtone telephone. Our next question will come from the line of Travis Miller with Morningstar. Your line is now open.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Good morning. Thank you.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Morning, Travis.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

You answered my dividend question and one of my tax questions. I'll have to try another one here.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Good talking to you, Travis.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

On the tax side. Given the PTCs, and you'd mentioned that cash tax position, how long can you go? Again, given the PTCs, and you've got obviously a nice DTL to return to customers, how long can you go, do you think, with essentially no cash tax position?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

It's going to be quite a while. I can't tell you the exact number of years out into the future. What I will say is, with the continuing production of PTCs, we will use them as generated, and we don't believe that we will see any of them expire.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Our last generation of our Production Tax Credits is in 2024.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. Those can cover, that plus the return of whatever cash on the DTLs could cover a substantial amount of the gap tax.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Yes.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

About 75% of your taxable income or your tax can be covered with PTCs.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Okay. That's all I had.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Okay. Good talking to you, Travis.

Travis Miller
Analyst, Morningstar

Yep.

Operator

Thank you. The next question will come from the line of Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, Jim. Just housekeeping on the structural lag, that $29 million, that's a pre-tax number. Using your really low tax rate, you're talking about $24 million, $25 million on an after-tax basis. Has that changed much in the last couple of years?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yeah, it's gone up slightly, but not a lot.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Michael, one of the most significant things that Jim has done in the rate case is request a full volumetric decoupling for weather, and then also storm restoration recovery. While we normally don't think of those as part of structural lag, that's a really important part of our rate case as we move forward and not uncommon for utilities across the country that experience such significant weather patterns as we do in Oregon.

Michael Lapides
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Okay. Thank you, guys. Much appreciated.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Kevin Fallon with Citadel. Your line is now open.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Hey, guys. Could you quantify what the weather impact in the first quarter was versus normal?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

The weather impact in the first quarter was about $0.03.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay. I thought you guys had said on the fourth quarter call that you had baked in an $0.11 hit into the guidance, and it came in much better than that. Is there some other driver that has materialized?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No, we did. We said $0.11, and now you've got about $0.03 that has showed up in the first quarter. You got to keep in mind, weather is just degree days. At this particular point in time, we've got too much of a year ahead of us before we're willing to consider any other look at our guidance.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay. That's fair. It also said in the Q that you guys had an unplanned outage at Boardman. Was that a material event?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

No, it took place in the fourth quarter of 2017, and will continue for a little bit longer, but it's not material at all.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

It contributed positive results we have.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

On the storage investment that you guys are making, does that come with rider recovery?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

You mean, what we are asking for as part of that process is the ability to use the Renewable Adjustment Clause to recover the cost associated with those investments.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay. That's about half of the increase. Is the other $50 million-ish need to be recovered in a GRC?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

No. Kevin, when we look at the up to $50 million that we're anticipating associated with all the pilot projects for energy storage, it's to say with all of those dollars, we're anticipating the use of the Renewable Adjustment Clause, which would allow us to be able to track that into customer prices.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Oh, okay. That's very helpful. Last thing, when are you guys expecting the commission to rule on the request to defer the billing system?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

We won't see that until, let's see. We will be filing it this quarter. There's no statutory time limit associated with it's going to be a while.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

As it's pending, you're allowed to effectively run it through the financials as if it's been granted?

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

Yes.

Kevin Fallon
Analyst, Citadel

Okay. Thank you very much.

Jim Lobdell
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, and Treasurer, Portland General Electric

All right. Thanks, Kevin.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Maria Pope for any closing remarks.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric

Thank you. We appreciate your interest in Portland General Electric, and we invite you to join us when we report our second quarter 2018 results in late July. Have a great day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes your program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.