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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Oct 25, 2022

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Portland General Electric Company's third quarter 2022 earnings results conference call. Today is Tuesday, October 25, 2022. This call is being recorded, and as such, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. If you do intend to ask a question, please avoid the use of speakerphones. For opening remarks, I will turn the conference call over to Portland General Electric's Senior Director of Finance, Investor Relations, and Risk Management, Jardon Jaramillo. Please go ahead, sir.

Jardon Jaramillo
Senior Director of Finance, Investor Relations, and Risk Management, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you, Valerie. Good morning, everyone. I'm happy you can join us today. Before we begin this morning, I would like to remind you that we have prepared a presentation to supplement our discussion, which we will be referencing throughout the call. The slides are available on our website at investors.portlandgeneral.com. Referring to slide two, some of our remarks this morning will constitute forward-looking statements. We caution you that such statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from our expectations. For a description of some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially, please refer to our earnings press release and our most recent periodic reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q, which are available on our website. Leading our discussion today are Maria Pope, President and CEO, and Jim Ajello, Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO.

Following their prepared remarks, we will open the line for your questions. Now it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Maria.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you, Jardon. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Beginning with slide 4, I'll start by discussing our third quarter results before moving on to long-term growth. This morning, we reported GAAP net income of $58 million or $0.65 per share, compared with $50 million or $0.56 per share in the third quarter of last year. Our solid results this quarter were driven by strong operating performance and revenue growth. First, load growth, which came primarily from technology and digital customers, continues to be robust. Industrial load was up 10% this quarter versus the same period a year ago. Given the CHIPS and Science Act, as well as the focus on semiconductor investments in the state of Oregon, we anticipate several significant semiconductor expansions in our service territory.

We're also continuing to see steady business growth in other sectors, as well as continued residential immigration. Overall, we're moving our load growth expectations to 2%, up from 1.5% over the next 5 years. From an operating perspective, we are pleased to see that the hard work we're doing across the company to reduce operating expenses is having an impact. Overall, O&M expenses were largely flat with last year's third quarter as savings in several areas offset wildfire mitigation and grid resilience costs. Third quarter power markets were remarkably volatile as many states in the West set all-time temperature records. In Oregon, at least 12 cities, including Portland, saw the hottest July and hottest temperatures on record. 2022 also ranked as the warmest August on record in Washington and Idaho, and California saw hot temperatures as well as record drought conditions.

Our generation plants could not have performed better and were well integrated with power operations, contracted, and purchased energy supply. Overall, purchased power and fuel expenses increased due to market conditions and to meet significantly higher energy usage. We are pleased to share that we have resolved a number of open deferral dockets which have been ongoing for many months and now provide greater certainty. Overall, we have achieved settlements totaling $130 million, including the 2020 wildfire, the 2021 ice storm, the 2021 power cost adjustment mechanism dockets. These agreements are subject to final approval by the OPUC, with an order expected in November. We also anticipate filing an amortization request for the $34 million COVID deferral later this year or in early 2023.

Jim will walk through the expected financial impacts of these updates in more detail, but I'd like to add my appreciation to our PGE leaders and to all other parties for the constructive spirit they've brought to these discussions. Moving to slide 5. After a robust and highly competitive process, identifying options that increase renewable energy at the best combination of price and risk for customers, we announced the Clearwater Wind Project, one of our benchmark generation bids. Clearwater is part of a broader wind development in eastern Montana that will generate approximately 311 megawatts of nameplate capacity. We signed a build-transfer agreement with NextEra Energy Resources for Portland General's two-thirds or 208 megawatt ownership share. PGE will secure the remaining third or 103 megawatts under a 30-year PPA. This is a significant, excuse me.

This is a significant step forward in our clean energy transition as the renewable energy generated at Clearwater complements our long-term plan to remove the remaining coal generation from our portfolio. PGE's capital investment in Clearwater is projected to be $415 million, and the facility is planned to come online by the end of 2023. The Clearwater investment opportunity will have an impact on the capital needed to fuel our growth and rebalance our capital structure, which Jim will touch on shortly. PGE has been on the forefront of the energy transition for years. We could not be more excited about the great opportunities that we see ahead. In the spring of 2023, we expect to file both our Clean Energy Plan and our next Integrated Resource Plan.

These plans will incorporate enhanced analysis and actions to meet evolving energy needs with a focus on reliability and affordability. In the second half of 2023, we expect to launch additional RFPs for renewable generation and non-emitting capacity. Now let me turn to operating performance and risk management. As I mentioned earlier, this was a very tough summer as we navigated record heat and heightened risk of wildfires. We're focused on making strategic investments, and much of the work we're doing to enhance resiliency in the summer also helps us prepare for winter storms. This includes proactively replacing aging equipment, reducing outages, accommodating growth, and better integrating renewable resources. We're also making use of the latest technologies. At our integrated operations center, we're using analytics to better track plant performance and predict potential issues before they arise.

We're using advanced modeling and approved tools to better monitor dynamic weather. Through AI and data analytics, we're proactively addressing issues in the distribution system, reducing costs, and increasing reliability. In short, we're advancing the digitization and simplification work that we have scaled over the last couple of years. This quarter, for example, we have focused our work on improvements to our field crew scheduling systems that will improve productivity and workflow for our line crews. We're also upgrading our digital platforms for more seamless customer service and interaction. Given the current environment, one area of particular concern is power cost management and challenging wholesale markets, especially during critical peak periods. This quarter, we experienced significant volatility driven by intense summer heat. Western power market conditions were very challenging, with day-ahead peak prices of $1,000 per megawatt hour on multiple occasions.

Our risk management strategies and strong balance sheet were critical as we navigated these headwinds. Our vertically integrated utility model and 16 generation facilities helped to insulate customers from the full impact of the volatility that we saw in the energy markets. In the current environment, we are frequently generating power to serve our customers at significantly lower energy costs that can be purchased in the open market. I want to recognize the outstanding work of our generation leaders and plant operations. We know that our customers, ranging from some of the largest global companies to our neighbors down the block, are facing significant financial pressures. As we look ahead, we're intently focused on making full use of the tools available to us to help manage power costs.

We're committed to providing our customers with the ability to take an active role in enabling the region's clean energy future. Again, this year, Portland General's Green Future program was recognized as the number one green energy program in the country by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, or NREL. Before I turn the call over to Jim, I'd like to discuss our financials. I'd like to touch on the coming quarter and our growth outlook. In the fourth quarter, we expect continued load growth, power cost performance, and disciplined O&M management to keep us on track to meet our guidance for the year. Looking ahead, the progress we've made this year has laid a foundation for substantial investment in 2023 that will position us for significant growth in 2024 and beyond.

As such, we're raising our long-term EPS growth guidance from 4%-6% to 5%-7%, reflecting investment opportunities ahead. In sum, we're pleased with our strong performance this quarter, demonstrating that providing safe, reliable, affordable, and clean energy is the right formula for steady and consistent results. With that, I'll turn it over to Jim.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you, Maria, and good morning, everyone. I'll cover our third quarter results before providing additional details on our outlook. Moving to slide 6, our third quarter results reflect the execution of our long-term strategy, continued growth and demand, and effective risk management in volatile power markets. Our regional economy remains solid as unemployment in our service territory improved to 3.2% relative to 4.3% in 2021, and has remained stable throughout 2022. Industrial development and customer growth continue to drive strong demand. Overall, Q3 2022 loads increased by 1.2% weather adjusted compared to Q3 2021. On a non-weather adjusted basis, total load increased 4.2% year-over-year as average temperatures for the third quarter were the warmest on record in our region.

Residential load increased by 3.6% year-over-year, but decreased 2.5% weather adjusted as we continue to see moderation in COVID-19 related usage trends. Residential customer count increased 1.1% compared to Q3 2021. Commercial load increased 0.5% year-over-year, but decreased 1.3% weather adjusted as the commercial segment continues its post-pandemic recovery. Steady growth among high-tech and digital services sectors continued in Q3, driving higher industrial loads, which grew over 10% year-over-year or 9.2% weather adjusted. These high temperatures increased deliveries, but they also created challenging power market conditions throughout the West. While power costs exhibited significant volatility, we managed operational and market risk effectively as the region continues to address resource challenges.

We remain acutely focused on managing energy price risks and optimizing operations to limit the customer price impacts of these cost pressures. I'll now cover our financial performance quarter-over-quarter. We experienced a $0.22 increase in total revenues driven by the 4.2% increase in deliveries, led by growing demand from our high-tech industrial customers. While load was up 4.2% quarter-over-quarter, industrial load growth outweighed residential and commercial load, with the change in customer price composition creating a $0.04 decrease in total revenues compared to 2021. In Q3 2021, power costs were high, and $0.21 of the quarter-over-quarter earnings change is attributed to headwinds in 2021 that we normalize for this comparison.

As a reminder, Q3 2021 saw conditions that pushed power cost above the $30 million power cost adjustment mechanism upper threshold, resulting in a deferral, which I will discuss again shortly. This quarter, higher market prices due to resource scarcity in peak periods drove a $0.25 decrease. These impacts were largely related to the impact of serving load during the region's demand peaks in a historically hot summer. Higher purchase volumes to serve load drove a $0.07 decrease. A $0.01 increase to EPS was due to lower operating expenses, net of storm restoration and regulatory program costs that are offset in revenue, primarily because of lower professional services costs. We saw a $0.01 impact from depreciation and amortization expense due to increased intangible asset balances compared to 2021, reflecting our continued investment in software and technology to increase efficiency across the organization.

Lastly, we had a net 2-cent increase reflecting offsetting impacts from a few items. It was a 9-cent increase to other income due to a settlement gain from a buyout of a portion of PGE's post-retirement medical plan, which was partially offset by a 3-cent decrease from the impact of higher interest expense from the Q3 2021 debt issuance of $400 million, and a 3-cent decrease due to higher income taxes and 1-cent decrease due to other miscellaneous items. Turning to slide 7, as Maria mentioned yesterday, PGE and parties submitted a stipulation to the OPUC reflecting an agreement that resolved all matters relating to 2021 under the 2020 Labor Day wildfires and 2021 February ice storm deferrals.

This agreement would allow PGE full recovery of the deferred amounts relating to 2021 of $30 million and $72 million respectively, with amortization over 7 years. PGE and parties also submitted a stipulation to the OPUC reflecting an agreement that resolved all matters relating to the 2021 PCAM deferral, and which would allow PGE recovery of deferred cost of $28 million with amortization over 2 years beginning January , 2023. Combined, these stipulations resolve $130 million of outstanding major deferrals. All stipulations are subject to OPUC approval. We plan to file an amortization request for the COVID-19 deferral, which has a $34 million balance as of September 30, 2022, later this year or early in 2023.

On slide 8, Maria highlighted earlier we are very pleased to have clarity on a portion of the ongoing RFP with our execution of the Clearwater Wind Project contracts with NextEra Energy Resources. Clearwater, our first project to be announced, represents a critical step in our clean energy roadmap and provides high-quality, renewable generation investment opportunities that will benefit customers and stakeholders as we move toward our 2030 decarbonization target. This project will be executed using a build transfer approach, which will allow us some flexibility when considering the timing and approach to future financing. We are continuing to negotiate with other RFP shortlist bidders for both additional renewable generation projects and non-emitting dispatchable capacity resources. We are optimistic that we will conclude these negotiations by the end of 2022 or early in 2023.

We are continuing to assess the debt and equity needs related to the Clearwater project and other potential RFP project investments, as well as long-term equity needs to rebalance our capital structure for regulatory purposes and maintain our strong credit ratings. Strong balance sheet creates important benefits for both shareholders and customers. We will look forward to finance this growth consistent to and leading up to our capital structure of 50/50 over time and on average. Turning to slide 9, which shows our updated capital forecast through 2027. We have increased the 2023 forecast by $550 million to reflect the renewable generation investment presented by Clearwater, as well as incremental base CapEx.

We have also increased capital forecasts for 2024 through 2026 by $75 million, $100 million, and $125 million respectively, and are providing a 2027 capital forecast of $800 million. This forecast represents planned investments for technology and software, system resiliency, transportation electrification, and grid optimization. Figures for 2023 through 2027 do not include any potential expenditures related to possible ownership from the remainder of the current RFP or future RFP cycles. Turning to slide 10. We continue to maintain a solid balance sheet, including strong liquidity and investment-grade ratings, accompanied by a stable credit outlook. Total availability of liquidity at September 30 is $797 million.

We plan to fund investments with cash from operations and the issuance of up to $460 million of long-term debt in the fourth quarter, a portion of which has already closed. We expect to issue this debt under our Green Financing Framework as we continue to seek out opportunities to tie our debt financings to our sustainability strategy through capital investments. The third quarter reflected the strength of our region, our ability to navigate difficult power cost conditions, our continued emphasis on controlling O&M expenses. The continued growth trajectory of our service territory is strong, and we remain focused on controlling costs and prioritizing spend on the highest return activities like technology deployments that drive efficiency.

We are reaffirming our full year GAAP earnings guidance of $2.60-$2.75 per diluted share, or $2.74-$2.89 per diluted share on a non-GAAP adjusted basis. Additionally, we are also increasing long-term load growth guidance from 1.5%-2%. As Maria described, this increase is enabled by continued growth in high tech industrial sectors and residential electrification patterns. Given the renewable investment opportunities presented by Clearwater, as well as a strong prospect of additional RFP opportunities yet to be awarded, clarity on major deferral dockets and anticipated load growth, we are raising our long-term earnings guidance from 4%-6% from a 2019 base year to 5%-7% from a 2022 adjusted earnings base year.

We're very excited about the growth prospects supported by both renewable development as well as resiliency investments. We are confident the catalysts discussed today create a clear path forward as we strengthen our core mission of providing clean, reliable, affordable energy for all, enabling consistent execution of our long-term financial goals that provide value for our customers, our community, and our shareholders. Now, operator, we're ready for questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. As a reminder to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. I show our first question comes from the line of Insoo Kim from Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, thank you. First question, thanks for the updates. On the 5%-7% EPS growth, off of that adjusted 2022 guidance base, should we assume that, you know, by 2024 you should be in that 6% midpoint range, or is it more in, you know, beyond that in 2025 or another time period?

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Hi, Insoo, it's Jim. Good morning. I will tell you that, you know, this is a long-term earnings guidance projection. 2023 represents a significant year of investment. As you saw, the CapEx rise to about $1.1 billion or more. And of course, we're not done with the RFP yet. It's really hard to be precise with an answer on that. I do think 2023, however, is a year of investment. And as you know, in this business, you invest that way in order to seek a longer-term growth profile. That's probably where I'd leave the answer right now.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. I guess associated with that, given at least the Clearwater is expected to come online in, you know, the year-end 2023, are you expecting from a rate case perspective to try to time the conclusion or the, you know, rate inclusion of that by early 2024?

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Well, let me correct perhaps an assumption in your question. Yes, Clearwater is planned to be in service by the end of 2023. There is no rate case required to bring Clearwater into rates. We'll use the Renewable Adjustment Clause. Upon in-service, that project will go into rates absent any rate case requirement.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

That's right. That makes sense. Just one more, if I could. On the OPUC prudence review for the Clearwater Wind, what's the timing on that? Is that like a separate docket that needs to be created? Just some clarity there.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you, Insoo. Yes, there is a prudency review that takes place in normal course after the project has been brought online. We are able to proceed with the automatic adjustment clause mechanism and move the wind energy and the asset into customer prices.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Got it. That's after. Okay. This you don't have to wait for.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

It's an after.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

... any approval before proceeding with the CapEx.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

No.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Thank you so much.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

If you remember.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yep.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

We've gone through a fairly rigorous RFP process, and also have had bids refreshed, all of which has been reviewed by different stakeholders, by the commission, and it's no question that in Oregon we have extensive processes.

Insoo Kim
Equity Research Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I show our next question comes from the line of Shahriar Pourreza from Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

Shahriar Pourreza
Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Hey, good morning, guys.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Morning.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Morning.

Shahriar Pourreza
Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

I guess a couple things to unpack here. First, how should we think about, I guess, the prospects for what you could own with the balance of the current RFPs you kind of laid out in slide eight? Could we see more wind procured, or is it leaning towards solar, which you wouldn't necessarily own? I guess net-net, you got $415 million so far. So are you still thinking an incremental $600 million to get us to the $1 billion ownership as previously discussed? I guess, how does company storage fit into that? Thanks.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

You know, first of all, the processes are still in process, and we wouldn't wanna front run any conclusion as we continue with negotiations with multiple parties and work with an independent evaluator. It's just too early to tell, but there clearly are more opportunities. We also are filing our next IRP along with the new Clean Energy Plan that the state of Oregon put in place a couple of years ago that I think will make a difference as we move forward through the decade.

Shahriar Pourreza
Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Got it. I guess maybe just another way to ask that is to hit the 5-7, I guess, what do you need incremental above what you just raised today from a capital standpoint?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

As we look at the best available projects for both, least risk and, least cost, we're mindful of all the deliverability of the energy. Clearly, we're looking at some storage projects that will help with capacity, but there's a lot of complexity in some of the bids, so I just think it's too early to tell.

Shahriar Pourreza
Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Okay, got it. Just on the timing and disclosures around sort of the equity, I mean, kind of with this process potentially not being finalized till the first quarter, Jim says early first quarter of 2023, does this kinda mean you won't be able to update us at maybe EEI as far as financing this plan as well as maybe the health equity portion of it?

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yeah, sure. That's a very good question. We're working on that now. We may or may not be able to update you at EEI regarding that. It just depends on, you know, how we look at the markets, you know, how we see the opportunity to raise capital, both debt and equity. I wouldn't wanna speculate on the timing of any financing right now. Not sure we'll be able to pin that timing down. I would say stay tuned.

Shahriar Pourreza
Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Got it. Jim, just last one for me. You know, as we're sort of thinking about some of the moving pieces for 2023, you'll have some natural drag from Faraday and other items. Any updated thoughts on how should we be thinking about, you know, other line items like O&M and what they could look like relative to 2022, especially if you're dealing with potentially equity dilution? I guess, should we assume 2023 in particular won't be quite linear as we're thinking about the updated 5%-7%? Or do you think you've got enough facets in the plan to sort of offset some of those items to maintain within that range, even if we're thinking about it from a year-over-year perspective? Thanks.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

It's a very good and popular question right now. I would say to you, hold tight until February when we give that 2023 guidance. I mean, by the time that rolls around, we should have a better perspective on those further RFP activities, how we're gonna finance all of that, and just what the opportunity is for the investment. Other than all of the guidance that we gave today around the long-term load growth, you know, we've cleared up the deferrals. You have. You know, a robust new CapEx schedule. We're trying to, you know, peer into 2023 without, you know, providing specific EPS guidance there.

I think you've identified some of the clear headwinds that we've got and, but we'll be back to you in February on the call with respect to the actual 2023 EPS guidance.

Shahriar Pourreza
Equity Research Analyst, Guggenheim Partners

Okay. Got it. We'll see you guys in a couple of weeks. Thanks.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Will do.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Thanks, Shahriar

Operator

Thank you. I show our next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, it's actually Julien on. Hey, good morning, team. Thanks for the time and the opportunity.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Thanks, Julian.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, congrats again on the raise here. I want to follow up on Shahriar's question. First off, how do you think just about 2024 here? I know that 2023 might have some moving pieces, as you say, large spend, equity, et cetera. By 2024, I mean, I know you launched and raised this 5-7 here off a 2022 base very specifically. Are you there and confident in being within that range for 2024 here as you kick off on this?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Julien, as we look at our guidance, it's really first and foremost based upon our customers' energy usage that we're seeing, the infrastructure that we have built and that they have built, and so continued growth from that aspect. As I think you know, we have a number of high tech companies, particularly semiconductor manufacturers, in our service territory, and they have been growing and will continue to probably accelerate that growth over the next couple of years. Clearwater is clearly a great addition, as we make the energy transition and add more renewables. But we also would expect to see more battery storage, more demand response.

We see the transition really accelerating along clean energy, and that's what makes us feel very confident in the 5%-7% longer term growth trajectory.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah, not specific on 2024 necessarily. If I may, speaking of the longer term, I mean, I think you all put out a target by the end of the decade of 3-4 gigawatts of procurement with 1 gigawatt of non-emitting capacity as well. I mean, that would imply a pretty hefty pace of procurement here through the back half of the decade in tandem with this 5-7. Can you talk a bit more specifically about your expectations on the cadence of these RFPs and prospects for your ownership? Again, basically, if you can, how does that reconcile within the 5-7? I mean, what kind of assumptions are you making about those future RFPs as it pertains to the 5-7 itself?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

There's a lot of questions in there, Julien. I think the first and foremost is, you know, our long term procurement of renewable energy, and then obviously the capacity that's going to need to be associated with that to keep the system reliable. As I mentioned, later this winter, early spring, we will be filing the Clean Energy Plan, which was the result of legislation that went in place just a little while ago in Oregon, really targeting for us an 80% reduction in our emissions off of 2010-2012 time period. We have quite a bit to procure. That will also be associated with our Integrated Resource Plan, which we have used as a planning tool for decades.

As well as many of the other kinds of planning that we're doing around the grid and distributed energy resources as well as electric transportation and others that we're really working to combine all of these. I think it would be too soon to tell handicap which would be company owned or which would be third party owned. There's most likely gonna be a mix. I think you'll also see needed transmission built within our service territory but also adjacent to our service territory and across the West. It clearly is a period of time of investment, and we're also mindful of our customer prices.

It's really important that as our load growth continues that we're able to take those fixed cost investments and spread them over a growing customer base, because affordability in Oregon is extremely important, not just to our residential customers and to small businesses, but to, you know, many of those larger multinational companies that are challenged today. We're balancing all of those things as we move forward, and again, feel confident in the 5%-7% growth.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. The bottom line, it's not predicated on necessarily any outcome on the RFPs itself. Customer growth,

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

That should give you the confidence in that number.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Got it.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Julien, right, let me just add to that. If you run a classical rate-based model based on the CapEx that we presented today without any other RFPs, I think you'll come to the same conclusion.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Excellent. Thank you guys for clarifying that. Just one quick clarification just on the medical buyout here. Can you just clarify, was that assumed in guidance for the year? I know that there are constantly moving pieces here.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yes, it was, Julien.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith
Senior Research Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. All right. Excellent guys. I'll leave it there. Congrats again. Cheers.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sophie Karp from KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Sophie Karp
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hi. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question, and congratulations on the guidance raise and the long-term guidance refresh. I wanted to ask you about the O&M. It's a bunch of moving pieces in the O&M guidance revision for the year. Could you maybe help us crystallize how much of the change relates to the inflationary pressures that you may be seeing and how do you see the development into 2023?

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yeah.

Sophie Karp
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Thanks, Sophie. Thanks for the question. Inflation has been a thorn in our side, really all companies in this space, and we're doing our best to fight against it. Let me just level set on O&M. Let's take the top of the range at 660, which you see here in the form of. The way I look at the 660 is I eliminate the storm deferral amounts which are coming back in revenue. That's you know, it's about $10 million, $11 million. You've got the disallowance that came in the first quarter. Altogether, that's about $27 million. The way I levelize our O&M now is I deduce it to about $633 million, right?

Once you start with that sort of baseline, I think it's fair to say, you know, you start thinking about all the factors that are impacting O&M, and it's clear O&M in the form of wages outside salary services that we purchase have all increased dramatically in the last year or so. What's that factor? I'm not exactly sure, but we are certainly doing everything we can to offset that. I think the third quarter, if you dig into the numbers with us, you'll find that there's been a moderation here, that we're starting to see an improvement over the strategies that we've got, plus using technology to be more efficient. We're not just looking at this as how much can we cut in the way of costs.

It's about making sure we get more done with the same dollar, making sure we're more efficient, optimizing CapEx that will improve O&M and the like, those kinds of strategies.

Sophie Karp
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thank you. Thank you. This is very helpful. Another question I had is on the, I guess, the benefits of the IRA, right, and the new tax credits outlined there, et cetera. Should we think about the price tag on Clearwater as, like, a final number that already contemplates all possible benefits that you can, you know, get for that type of project? Or would that number kinda move around, as you dig through treasury guidance and, kinda more of a potential benefits from the bill? And the same, I guess, is for other projects. How incorporated is the new fiscal regime into your RFP at this point?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Thanks, Sophie. Thank you. With regards to most specifically Clearwater, there will be production tax credits associated with that facility, which will reduce the overall impact to customer prices. We would expect to use those in the normal course. With regards to the overall IRA, IIJA, and other federal funding, we currently have a couple of projects from the Department of Energy around our distributed energy test beds, as well as the Oregon Department of Energy around their smart grid Salem project that we have in our service territory. We would expect to have significantly more in the future. Clearly, it's important as we look at some of the above-market costs of newer technologies to bring in those kinds of funds.

We hope to be well-positioned to do that both for reliability and resiliency projects, but also as we continue to invest in a clean energy transition.

Sophie Karp
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah. I guess maybe I don't think I've contemplated this yet, but is there a way through a tax equity arrangement to reduce the upfront capital needs? Not necessarily, I guess, the price, but the need for equity maybe. Or is that something that is not doable within a regulated contract?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Certainly. First of all, many of the rules have still not yet been written with regards to the Inflation Reduction Act or IRA. We'll need to see how those are. We'll also need to see if you're talking about monetizing any of those credits, what the market looks like at that time. Certainly, funds from the federal government or from the federal government that move through state agencies here in Oregon would reduce our overall need for equity or debt financing, as we move forward, and it's going to be an important component to our clean energy plans.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

You know.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Too soon to tell.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Without belaboring the point, I would say that recall that when the bids came in initially in the summertime, we asked for a refresh, and that's because there were, I'd say, pretty significant inflationary pressures around all these RFP projects. We also asked bidders to make sure that they included their best estimates of the benefit of the IRA, for our customers, 'cause that's where this benefit goes at the end of the day. I think we have some benefit in projects like Clearwater, but clearly, to use a redundant term, I don't think we're all the way there yet. It's early on, and we'll do the same for the other RFP projects as we go.

What's really great about the IRA for a company like this, without a holding company, without an affiliate, we'll own all these projects that we are competitively awarded, you know, in a very simple ownership structure, and we'll be able to normalize or opt out of that tax normalization structure and monetize the tax credits. I think this is a significant opportunity for us, if you will, probably in the next round of projects as the IRA gets more defined and as the market for tax credits gets more defined. It's just not there yet, frankly.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Got it. Super helpful. Thank you. It's helpful for me.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. One moment while we compile our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Anthony Crowdell from Mizuho Group. Please go ahead.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst, Mizuho Group

Good morning, Maria. Good morning, Jim.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Morning.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Good.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst, Mizuho Group

Maria Pope, if I could just start off, I wanted to follow up on, I think one of Julien's questions. I know there were many, maybe it was his first one. It was related to, I think, not in 2024, your earnings CAGR, your update, but I actually want to go from the start. Is it fair to assume that we should be using the midpoint of the revised 2022 guidance of, like, $2.81 as our anchor of growing to 5%-7%?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Yes.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst, Mizuho Group

Great. Thank you. Just if I move from there, I think that, and I hope I don't have these numbers wrong, I think the company was seeing lag roughly maybe 50-70 basis points. You've updated your load forecast to 2%. Does that change the regulatory lag that the company has experienced?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Sure. First of all, our lag is a little bit larger than that, just under 1%. Continually, we work to reduce that lag over time. Certainly, the footprint of the company helps with reducing that as we get larger. Those items, and hopefully they get smaller or don't change, become a smaller part of the total on a percentage basis. It's our goal to continually just shrink that gap.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst, Mizuho Group

I apologize. I may have my numbers wrong. 70 to 90 or what is the appropriate?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Sure. It's a little closer to 90 basis points right now.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst, Mizuho Group

Okay. Just lastly, I guess, for today comes in some cost pressures, and I apologize if you answered this earlier. Just what is your assumption for rate case timing in your long-term growth rate? I think the company historically has filed in February. You know, I think you're filing in February for new rates, the following January. Just what is baked into your assumption of the long-term plan?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Sure. As you may recall, our last rate case was filed after about 2.5 years. We were in the middle of COVID, and we were very concerned with regards to customer prices. We kept our increases very modest through that period of time. Actually, it was just this last May that customer prices were increased to reflect that rate case. As we move forward, we will take a look at where we are and in particular, some of the additional costs that we're seeing come onto the system, both for resiliency and grid hardening, and most importantly, for wildfire costs. We're going to be looking at all of these things as we analyze what we do next.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Anthony, I'll add that I would not assume any changes in the annual utility tariff filing, the fuel tariff filing that we have here. I think that's something that's fixed by regulation.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Gotcha.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yeah.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst, Mizuho Group

Great. Thanks so much for taking my questions, and congratulations.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I show our next question comes from the line of Aditya Gandhi from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Aditya Gandhi
Equity Research Associate, Wolfe Research

Good morning, Maria and Jim.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Good morning.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Good morning.

Aditya Gandhi
Equity Research Associate, Wolfe Research

Just on the rate case, could you please clarify? When you go in for a rate case and as it relates to your equity ratio, just given the forward test here, would you again, this is assuming that you do an equity forward and you have to draw on it. Would you have to draw on your forward sort of before you file or at the time you file? Just given your forward test here, can you sort of file later in the year? Could you please clarify that?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Sure. Just for perspective and background, we target over the long term and sort of on average about a 50/50 capital structure. Just also for perspective, Jim mentioned it earlier. We have no holding company debt or anything else. It's a very simple structure. Our last rate case, we were below that 50/50, and we filed, went through the entire 9-10 month process and ended up with a 50/50 capital structure. You know, I think we have good understanding with parties as well as with the commission that we target 50%, you know, on average over time.

That's, you know, in how that would impact a rate case or not, you know, I just think is one factor amongst many as we take a look at when we might file our next rate case.

Aditya Gandhi
Equity Research Associate, Wolfe Research

Got it. That's helpful. Then just going to your 5%-7% growth rate. You have a higher capital plan now. You're pointing to more sales growth in the RTOs. You know, you have some equity needs for your base business, which is at present under-equitized, and also some equity needs related to your RFP, and then you've also pointed to a higher capital plan. Maybe there's some equity needs related to that increased CapEx, maybe not. Just because we don't have sort of like a full picture of what your financing refresh looks like, how should we think about the shape of your 5%-7%, you know, especially sort of beyond 2023?

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yeah, Aditya, I'll take that one. I do think the CapEx guidance that we disclosed today is as best as we could see it right now. We're not even finished with the current RFP cycle. As I said, we're hopeful that by the end of the year or into the first quarter, we'll see more results that are beneficial. I'm not revise upward the guidance that we just gave you, but I would say to you that there's opportunity in that CapEx plan as well. It's a little hard, therefore, to size what that capital plan will be.

We know and we've discussed many times the need to return over time and on average, as Maria just said, literally the capital structure for the company, you know, per regulation. I would assume also that once that is, if you will, taken care of, what you'll see is incremental capital investments like Clearwater out of the box, funded on a 50/50 basis in order to maintain the overall. You know, we'll size this and be ready for the opportunity as it comes. I'll just tell you that these markets are extremely volatile and difficult to project, you know, given the hawkish nature of the Fed and the way the equity markets are performing. It's a question that we.

Your question is one we wrestle with all the time.

Aditya Gandhi
Equity Research Associate, Wolfe Research

Okay. That's helpful. Just one more, if I can squeeze that in. As far as your deferrals are concerned, I noticed that for the PCAM deferral, y'all didn't get the full amount. Just please correct me if I'm wrong, but do you essentially have to, you know, take a charge to earnings for the $2 million that y'all won't be able to recover for PCAM? And if so, when would that charge be? Thank you.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

What you've obviously noticed on page seven, you see the delta between the $21 million balance at the end of this quarter and the $28 million recovery, right? That would be in the fourth quarter, $2 million.

Aditya Gandhi
Equity Research Associate, Wolfe Research

Got it. Okay. That, that's helpful. Thanks, Maria. Thanks, Jim.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Sure.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I show our next question comes from the line of Nicholas Campanella from Credit Suisse. Your question please.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Hey, good morning. Thanks for getting me in here.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Good day.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Credit Suisse

I'll just try to ask in like I guess a more direct way. Like, do you need to wait for the RFP results before sizing your total equity needs here? Or just how should we kind of think about that? 'Cause I know there's a lot of moving pieces.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yeah. Thank you for understanding that. That's really what I was trying to get across to Aditya there in a moment ago. I don't think it's necessary to wait. Absolutely, you know, we could track where we are in the pace of negotiations and try to figure it out and consider market conditions. It's not necessarily the case that I'd have to wait, but I'd have to be pretty confident, right? Because I don't want to over-equitize and dilute more than we have to. We wanna size the financing, both debt and equity, against our capital needs, right? I don't wanna get out over our skis and create dilution that's not necessary.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. No, that's helpful, Jim. Then, you know, last quarter, you kind of talked about being at 46% versus the 50 authorized. Could you just give us, like, a quick update there and, you know, understand the comments as well that this is an over time situation.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yeah.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Is 200 basis points improvement the right way to think about it still? Thanks.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Yeah, now that I hear people repeating what we say, I think we're in the right ballpark now. Yeah. I think by the end of the year, I estimate that we'll be approximately 46+% . The notion of making it happen over time suggests to me that, you know, I look back at the history. We've operated, in many cases, at 48+, 49%. We've also operated at 51-52 over a long period of time. Yeah. I don't think that's a bad estimate, right? I think that's fine. Yeah.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Credit Suisse

All right.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

You know, as we said, just to repeat, over time and on average, right? 'Cause it's the way we look at it, the way the commission looks at it, we look back and we look forward on the projections. Repeat after me, over time and on average.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks a lot. We'll see you at EI. Appreciate it.

Jim Ajello
Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO, Treasurer, and CCO, Portland General Electric Company

Great. See you then. Bye-bye.

Operator

Thank you. I show our last question comes from the line of Chris Ellinghaus from Siebert Williams Shank & Co. Please go ahead.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Hey, everybody. How are you?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Hey, Chris.

Operator

Good.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Maria, you mentioned two things that are interesting. One, you sort of talked about tech expansion in your service area. I was just kind of curious. Are those sort of bolt-on expansions? Are you talking about new fabs? You know, where do you see that in sort of your investment horizon here?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Sure. As we speak, there are bolt-on investments taking place. I would also expect that we would see some new fabs as well.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Okay.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

You know, we're very fortunate to have the talent base that has created, you know, a number of really strong semiconductor manufacturers, the software companies that support their tools, as well as many fabless companies as well. This is a period of a lot of growth in that area, and we're fortunate to have a fair amount of it.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Okay. The other thing you talked about was transmission needs. Are you talking new lines or merely expansions?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

I think it'll be a little bit of both, with an emphasis on expansion, whether that is existing lines or existing corridors. As you know, transmission is a real challenge. We'd like to be able to reduce all of the permitting, siting, variety of issues that takes place with transmission, and move as quickly as possible to ensure reliability of our service territory, and the entire grid. That's where our main focus will be, but it will be a little bit of both.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Okay. You know, sort of back to the base rate question. You've tended to try to avoid base rate increases in years where you have new assets coming into customer rates. Should we expect you'd be trying to avoid any new base rates for 2024?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

You know, first and foremost, we're very cognizant of bill pressure for customers and keeping things affordable, particularly during a period of time where you see a lot of volatile commodity prices. Energy affordability and accessibility is really important in how we think of all of our planning. We don't have any one conclusion one way or another. I will tell you that as we look forward through this energy transition and the change in natural gas prices as well as other things, affordability as well as reliability are first and foremost as we make this clean energy transition.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Okay. Have you got any updates on your Faraday strategy?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

You know, the project is moving along. We expect that it will be online a little bit after the first of the year, generating power, maybe even a little bit sooner than that with one of the units. It's getting completed and has certainly been a project challenged by wind and ice storms, as well as the wildfires that went through there in the early COVID experiences. It's been a challenging project, but we're getting to the conclusion.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Sort of cost recovery thoughts?

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Yes. It was part of our last rate case. We have requested a separate rider, which is something that worked well for us when we brought on the selective water withdrawal system and some of our fish handling systems on the Deschutes. We were not able to obtain that, so bringing that into customer prices would require a rate case.

Chris Ellinghaus
Senior Utility and Alternative Energy Analyst, Siebert Williams Shank & Co

Okay. Thank you so much.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Thank you, Chris. Nice to talk to you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our Q&A session. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference back over to Maria Pope for closing remarks.

Maria Pope
President and CEO, Portland General Electric Company

Well, thank you all for joining us this morning. We appreciate your interest in Portland General Electric, and we look forward to connecting with you soon. Thank you very much.

Operator

This is today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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