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Earnings Call: Q1 2022

Apr 26, 2022

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the RBB Bancorp earnings conference call for the first quarter 2022. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have an opportunity to ask questions during the question- and- answer session. You may register to ask a question at any time by pressing the star and one on your touch-tone phone. Please note that today's event is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the program over to Ms. Catherine Wei. Ma'am, please begin.

Catherine Wei
Investor Relations Officer, RBB Bancorp

Thank you. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss RBB Bancorp's financial results for the first quarter of 2022. With me today for management is Interim President and CEO and CFO, David Morris; EVP and Chief Credit Officer, Jeffrey Yeh; EVP and Chief Strategy Officer, Simon Pang; and EVP and Chief Risk Officer, Vincent Liu. David will provide a brief summary of the results, which can be found in the earnings press release that is available on our investor relations website. Then we'll open up the call to your questions. During this conference call, statements made by management may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements are based upon specific assumptions that may or may not prove correct.

Forward-looking statements are also subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties and other factors relating to RBB Bancorp's operations and business environment, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the control of the company. For a detailed discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the documents the company has filed with the SEC. If any of these uncertainties materialize or any of these assumptions prove incorrect, RBB Bancorp's results could differ materially from its expectations as set forth in these statements. The company assumes no obligation to update such forward-looking statements unless required by law. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to David Morris. David?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Thank you, Catherine. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. With me today, I have our Chairman of the Board, Dr. James Kao, and Board member, Christina Kao. Royal Business Bank had a great first quarter start to the year as loans held for investments topped $3 billion for the first time. Average non-interest-bearing deposits increased by 10% and net interest income grew. Importantly, our results demonstrate the strength of our business we have built and our ability to grow profits in a variety of economic environments. I know that recent personnel announcements have raised questions, but I feel confident that our strategy will continue to be an effective driver of shareholder value. I appreciate the support the Board has given me and look forward to working with the rest of the RBB team to drive the bank forward. Turning to the financial results.

Net income declined by 6.9% from last quarter's record performance, but increased by 17.4% from the year earlier to $14.6 million or $0.74 per diluted share in the first quarter. Net income benefited from several factors, a $167.7 million increase in average earning assets and improving yield drove a $1.3 million increase in net interest income from the prior quarter. Net interest income also benefited from a decline in interest expense due to a decline in average interest-bearing liabilities and a decline in deposit cost. First quarter non-interest income decreased by $212,000 from the previous quarter, primarily due to lower Fannie Mae loan sales.

Non-interest expense increased from last quarter due to a $2.5 million increase in compensation expense, a $420,000 increase in data processing, and a $400,000 increase in directors' fees. The increase in compensation and directors' fees was due to converting executive bonuses from 100% cash to a combination of cash and RSUs. This resulted in a reversal in bonus expenses, both for the executives and for directors in the fourth quarter. The increase in data processing was due to a number of special projects and reclassification of mortgage systems expenses. These first quarter non-interest expense increases were offset by a $680,000 decrease in legal and professional expenses.

Net interest margin was 3.49% for the first quarter, an increase of 6 basis points from the fourth quarter and a decrease of 24 basis points from a year prior. Annualized ROA and ROTCE decreased in the first quarter to 1.39% and 14.91%. Net loans held for investment exceeded $3 billion as of March 31, which was a $75 million increase from last quarter. We had good growth in C&I, construction, and mortgage, while SBA commercial real estate decreased from the prior quarter. On the positive side, our non-QM mortgage production, which is our most profitable mortgage product, is beginning to show signs of life. Our yield on average earning assets for the quarter increased 3 basis points to 4%, but was down 49 basis points from the prior year.

As with the NIM, this year-over-year decrease was due entirely to lower returns on our excess capital. With respect to funding, commercial customer activity drove $124 million of growth in average non-interest-bearing deposits over the quarter. Our average cost of interest-bearing deposits for the quarter was 0.44%, which was down 3 basis points from the prior quarter and 29 basis points from the prior year. Non-performing assets were stable at $21 million at the end of the first quarter, but declined by about $7 million in early April as three non-performing loans were fully repaid. As of April 15th, we had no loans in COVID-19 deferment. We took a provision for credit loss of $366,000 in the first quarter, primarily attributable to loan growth.

Our capital levels remain strong with all of our capital ratios well above regulatory minimums. With that, we are happy to take your questions. Operator, please open up the call.

Operator

At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and one on your touch-tone phone. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing the pound key. Once again, that is star and one to ask a question, and we'll pause for a moment to allow questions to queue. Our first question will come from Kelly Motta with KBW.

Kelly Motta
Director of Equity Research, KBW

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for the question. Loan growth was quite good, and I heard you mentioned on the call that your non-QM product is showing signs of life again. What's the outlook for growth as we look ahead? And you know, with what's going on with rates, does that temper at all what you're expecting for the non-QM going forward with what's going on with resi mortgage?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Well, what is going on with our mortgage department is, I guess, a switch from our Fannie Mae production to the non-QM. As rates go up, it seems like our product does much better in that environment than a Fannie Mae product does. I think you're gonna see our production increase in non-QM. We have not made any decision yet if we're gonna hold those on our books or if we're gonna sell them. Okay.

Kelly Motta
Director of Equity Research, KBW

Okay. That's helpful. Then also with the prospect for, you know, the several rate hikes now going forward, how do you expect the balance sheet to perform, and NIM expansion in a rising rate environment? Do you have kind of a rule of thumb for every 25 basis points of hikes of what we should see in terms of NII or NIM?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

You would probably only see just 3 or 5 basis points increase. You gotta remember, our cash, most of our investments will reprice quickly because we're in very short-term items. They'll reprice or some of them already have repriced very quickly. The CDs, only about $350 million will reprice, and we are holding the CD line pretty strong right now. We haven't moved our pricing at all yet. I expect with this 50 basis point increase or we're thinking it's 50 basis point increase in May, we will probably have to begin adjusting our CD pricing and our money market pricing. As far as our commercial loans are concerned, all of our commercial loans that are prime driven will automatically move up.

That's about 35%-40% of our portfolio.

Kelly Motta
Director of Equity Research, KBW

Okay. Thank you, David. And then with Alan's departure, you're now in the Interim CEO role as well as still CFO. Can you share any thoughts of you and the Board in terms of where you're looking to replace? Have you started a CEO search yet or are you looking to fill more on the CFO side? Just interested in kind of the go-forward outlook for the executive management team.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Okay. Right now, we just finished the announcement about Alan and so forth. Now that is done, the Board is now gonna concentrate on finding a replacement for Alan over the next few months.

Kelly Motta
Director of Equity Research, KBW

Okay. Thanks, David. I will step back for the time being. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question will come from Andrew Terrell with Stephens.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Hi, Andrew.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

Hey, good morning. Maybe just dovetailing off of the last point. I know you mentioned the Board was gonna be concentrating on finding a replacement for Alan, but where do we stand in terms of replacement of Chief Lending Officer?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

We decided not to hire a Chief Lending Officer. That position was created last year, and we don't believe we need it, and we will be replacing that with two or three lenders.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

Outside of kind of what has been announced, have you seen any other attrition on the lending front at the bank?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

We haven't really seen. Of course, we have loans that are maturing, and whether or not we get those loans just depends on the competitiveness of the bank. We are being extremely competitive right now. We are going to defend our book to the best of our ability. Having said that, most of our loans are 2-5 years in maturity, and most of our loans have prepayment penalties. If they do leave, there will be some type of incremental income related to that.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

Okay. David or maybe Dr. Kao, would love to hear just kind of thoughts on. I realize you're kind of engaged in a search process for a new CEO, but wondering how you're thinking about potentially maybe other strategic alternatives, including kind of a partnership with another institution, that could maybe kind of solve that problem as well.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Okay. I'll answer that, too. You know, of course, we always are looking at strategic alternatives, but our stock price right now does not reflect the value of the institution.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

Okay. Fair enough. Then if I could just sneak one more in, David, on the SBA gain on sale this quarter.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Mm-hmm.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

Just looking at the reported income versus what was sold, it looks like the gain on sale margin came down from about 7.9% last quarter to 5.6% this quarter.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Yes.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

About a 240 basis point swing. I was hoping you could just discuss what the driver behind that gain on sale margin compression was within SBA specifically, and then the outlook kind of going forward. Is 5.6% kind of the level for new SBA gain on sale margins, or how are you thinking about it?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

That's because of the rate that was offered on those loans. Okay? The SBA margins all based upon the length of the loan and the rate, the prime plus whatever. They were a little bit lower yielding.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

Were these all 7(a)?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Yes, they were.

Andrew Terrell
SVP and Equity Research Analyst of Regional Banks, Stephens

Okay. I'll step back for now. Thanks.

Operator

All right. Thank you. Our next question will come from Nick Cucharale with Piper Sandler.

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Good day, everyone. How are you?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

I'm fine. How about yourself?

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Good, thank you. Just to piggyback on the non-QM commentary, can you update us on your full year organic loan growth targets?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

I think our full year organic loan growth is gonna be between 5% and 6% instead of 8% and 10%. Okay?

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

That's helpful.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Mainly because you know we have a couple of commercial lenders that are not here anymore. We have one SBA. Our SBA team leader left the bank also, but we have rehired for the SBA team lead already. Okay.

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Then comparing the end of period versus average cash balances, it seems to suggest a sizable move up in the NIM, at least in the near term. At this point in the quarter, has the excess liquidity position continued to decline? Can you help us think about your expectation for the NIM more generally?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Yeah. Our excess liquidity is down right at the moment. In general, as I've said over the last year that we would begin losing deposits, and we have begun to lose our deposits from our non-interest bearing DDA as expected in the late third quarter, I mean, late March, and it has continued on through April as we predicted. I don't expect our NIM to be increasing as much as people think it should be. I mean, will be. I would see, you know, 5 basis points, you know, 5 to 10 basis points a quarter at the most. Okay?

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Just to expand on the SBA discussion, can you update us on your expectations for the gain on sale business in total? Should we expect consistency from this quarter's level?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

I don't think you'll see any SBA loan sales this quarter and only Fannie Mae loan sales, which are also declining because of the market. I don't see us being at our $2 million target per quarter until maybe the third or fourth quarter of this year.

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Thank you for taking my questions.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Okay.

Operator

All right. Thank you. Our next question will come from Ben Gerlinger with Hovde Group.

Ben Gerlinger
Managing Director of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Hey.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Hey.

Ben Gerlinger
Managing Director of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Good morning.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Good morning.

Ben Gerlinger
Managing Director of Equity Research, Hovde Group

I was curious if we could touch base a little bit on the capital. I know growth is slowing a little bit. As you said, your price doesn't reflect what you think the company is worth and the stocks. Does that mean share purchases are gonna be a bigger priority, or is it. Is there something that prevents you with the pending deal?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

No. In fact, the Board has just reauthorized another 500,000 shares in our stock repurchase plan. What's restricting us is the volume. There are some days that we only have 2,000 shares traded, 5,000 shares traded. It takes quite a bit of time to go through the 500,000 shares. Okay?

Ben Gerlinger
Managing Director of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Gotcha. Yeah.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

It'll probably take the rest of this year to do that.

Ben Gerlinger
Managing Director of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Yeah. No, the liquidity constraint, I totally understand that.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Yeah.

Ben Gerlinger
Managing Director of Equity Research, Hovde Group

When you think about expenses, I know you said the two lending officers now kind of being converted into three roles. I'm assuming you mean that that's the cost or the salary associated with that. It kind of makes sense to have three people. When you think about expenses going forward, do you kinda have a full year target? Just kinda looking at the growth historically, expenses have been very well managed 'cause we potentially see expenses lower kind of run rate.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Again, I think as always, our first quarter is our highest quarter, and it's because of bonuses and certain other expenses that we pay. I believe we will be. You'll see over the next two quarters reductions from the $16 million level down to maybe a $15.5 million to $15.3 million level.

Ben Gerlinger
Managing Director of Equity Research, Hovde Group

Gotcha. Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate it.

Operator

All right. Thank you. Again, to ask a question, please press star one. Our next question will come from Nick Cucharale with Piper Sandler.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Hey, Nick.

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Just a quick follow-up. Are you still expecting the Gateway transaction to close in the second quarter?

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

No. We're expecting it to be closed in the second half of the year.

Nick Cucharale
Director and Senior Research Analyst, Piper Sandler

Thank you very much.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Okay.

Operator

All right. Thank you. It appears that we have no further questions in the queue at this time.

David Morris
Interim President, CEO, and CFO, RBB Bancorp

Okay. Thank you to everybody.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's program. We thank you for your participation, and you may disconnect at any time.

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