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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Aug 7, 2020

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Ready Capital Corporation Q2 2020 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Andrew Ahlborn, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Thank you, operator, and good morning, and thanks to those of you on the call for joining us this morning. Some of our comments today will be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Such statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect. Therefore, you should exercise caution interpreting and relying on them. We refer you to our SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial conditions. During the call, we will discuss our non-GAAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP.

A reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure is available in our Q2 2020 earnings release and our supplemental information. Yesterday evening, we issued a press release with the presentation of our results, along with our supplemental financial information presentation. These materials can be found in the investor relations section of the Ready Capital website and have been filed with the SEC. We plan to file our Q2 2020 10-Q this evening. In addition to Tom and myself, we are also joined by Adam Zausmer, Head of Credit, on today's call. I will now turn it over to Tom Capasse, our CEO.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Thanks, Andrew, and good morning. We appreciate you joining the call in what continue to be unprecedented and challenging times. Our thoughts remain with you and your loved ones and hope that you are safe and healthy. As a lending business historically adept at remote operations, we have readily adapted to the COVID environment, managing greater work demands with equal or greater productivity. In response to the pandemic, our management team undertook a three-phase process. Phase I was defense. We harvested liquidity and preserved book value via holistic asset management. With aggressive loss mitigation during the Q2 , we preserved much of our book value from the first quarter, as the decline was only 10%, with a current 60-day delinquency rate of 2.2%, versus over 7% for our large balance CRE peers. Phase II is offense.

Armed with over $260 million of liquidity today, we've completed a strategic review of our diverse businesses to chart the path forward. We will continue to expand our government-sponsored lending segments and plan relaunch of our CRE acquisition and lending businesses, including the introduction of new products. Operating expenses were also reduced in line with reduced CRE loan volume and a planned greater reliance on technology. Phase III is implementation from the early third quarter to year-end. We will seek to restore normalized core earnings comprising a combination of net interest margin from redeployment of excess liquidity into the robust post-COVID CRE acquisition and lending opportunities and cash gain on sale income from our government lending businesses. In the current quarter, we achieved our phase II objectives and record results by leveraging our gain on sale businesses, including allocating substantial resources to the Paycheck Protection Program or PPP.

Additionally, we focused on the asset management of our existing small balance commercial loan portfolio and de-risked our balance sheet by increasing liquidity and decreasing mark-to-market liabilities. Our three government-sponsored lending businesses posted strong quarterly results. First, our residential mortgage banking segment, GMFS, realized a record $1.2 billion in origination, supported by a strong demand for both home purchases and refinances in an attractive rate environment. This volume, approximately $500 million larger than any other quarter in the company's history, was further supported by record margins. Second, spurred by Freddie Mac reducing multifamily origination rates 50 basis points, our Freddie Mac multifamily business also experienced record quarterly originations of $157 million, with year-to-date volumes through the second quarter representing 79% of 2019 total production. Lastly, in addition to our PPP efforts, our SBA business continued to originate new 7(a) loans.

Although limited by the program requirements, which require that businesses be both open and operational, we managed to fund $21 million of SBA 7(a) loans in the quarter. On the PPP front, our company helped over 40,000 businesses through the origination of $2.7 billion of loans. As we said on our first quarterly call, we committed to doing everything we could to provide financial support to small business owners across America during a time when they needed it most. To do this, we developed a new technology, formed various partnerships, and dedicated the majority of our internal staff to these efforts. We will continue to evaluate how Ready Capital can assist businesses in need through these difficult times and intend to participate in programs organized under the so-called CARES 2 Act. The proposed legislation includes $190 billion for second loans to existing PPP borrowers.

In addition, the bill would create a new 7(a) loan program targeting COVID-damaged small business in low-income areas. Eligible businesses would be eligible to receive low-interest loans with a term of 20 years, supported by 100% SBA guarantee. In our small balance commercial lending and acquisition segments, we focused on proactively engaging with our borrowers facing difficulties arising from COVID. The stronger relative fundamentals of the SBC sector entering this recession, along with our conservative underwriting, is reflected in the superior credit performance relative to our large balance peers. As of mid-July, total 60-day plus delinquencies in the CRE portfolio were 2.2%, a slight increase from the year-end delinquencies of 1.4%. We monitor risk in the portfolio by scoring each loan in the portfolio on a scale of one to five, with scores of four to five representing loans with the highest risk of principal loss.

Since the onset of COVID, loans in the four or five bucket have increased to 8.3% of the portfolio from 4.5% pre-COVID. Our extensive history in the management of problem loans, including resolving approximately 6,000 SBC loans in the last recession, gives us comfort that at this time, losses will not exceed current reserve levels. Additionally, the diversity of the portfolio is a significant mitigant, with the largest loan representing under 1% of the portfolio. We also have minimal exposure to underperforming sectors, with hospitality at 4% and retail at 15% of the CRE loan portfolio. Of note, our retail is not malls, but small strips with a $1.3 million average balance. Beyond these lending and asset management initiatives, we increased liquidity and reduced mark-to-market liabilities. In the quarter, we increased cash on hand by $134 million- $257 million, while decreasing mark-to-market liabilities 26% to $1.25 billion.

This was in part due to the successful execution of a bridged collateralized loan obligation and a legacy acquired loan securitization. These securitizations raised $58 million in cash and reduced warehouse debt to $431 million. The market support of our securitization program was evident in senior bond execution spreads at or inside comparable offerings. 74% of our loan portfolio is now financed through non-recourse means, and we successfully extended both our CRE warehouse lines that matured in the quarter through year-end. Our efforts in navigating the difficulties of the COVID pandemic have positioned the company to reemerge from this period stronger. Which leads me to our phase III initiatives resulting from our recent strategic review.

First, we plan to restart lending in our core small balance commercial products in the third quarter, starting with launch of our bridge loan product, where we are seeing opportunities to price loans with increased credit enhancements to retain yields at 500 basis point premiums to pre-COVID levels. In our fixed rate lending business, we are currently partnering with a national bank to originate securitization with the company retaining the subordinate tranches. We believe this is a cost-effective way to keep our platform active and expect to retain yield in the high teens. Our current money-up pipeline in our core CRE origination channels totals $91 million. Second, we will leverage our experience with the PPP program to expand our SBA 7(a) lending business. The SBA's existing 7(a) program will be a catalyst for the recovery of small business from COVID.

We will accordingly grow our large balance 7(a) volume through application of technology developed for PPP, the pursuit of new affinity relationships, and the targeting of specific industry verticals. We also plan on launching a small loan SBA 7(a) program. Historically, only 16% of our 7(a) production had loan balances under 350,000 versus 56% for the 7(a) program overall. This program will rely heavily on our PPP front-end technology and expedited processing through use of the SBA scoring model with incremental 7(a) volume in excess of $100 million per year. Our current 7(a) money-up pipeline exceeds $175 million. Third, we expect our residential mortgage banking segment to continue to experience high volume at elevated margins.

Through July, production exceeded $400 million, and we expect less downside on the mortgage servicing rights mark in the third quarter, even if primary rates and earnings rates continue to decline due to the de facto floor and refinancing rates afforded by the absolute level of the 10-year Treasury. Fourth, we plan on deploying capital into acquisition opportunities. We are tracking $3 billion of post-COVID SBC loan pool offerings, of which only 1/5 have traded due to wide bid-ask spreads. We expect transaction volume to increase in the fourth quarter and Q1 next year as the forbearance wave subsides. Our current executable pipeline of $230 million primarily consists of seasoned performing pools with low LTVs and levered yields in the mid-teens. Lastly, we continue to evaluate the best use of cash in the context of providing the greatest return to our shareholders.

Given the current share price, this includes a program to repurchase shares. Our board of directors has approved a repurchase program which allows us to repurchase up to $25 million of common stock in the coming months. I'll now hand it over to Andrew to discuss the financial results.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Thank you, Tom. We are pleased to report GAAP earnings of $0.62 per share and core earnings of $0.70 per share. Both quarterly records when normalizing for business combination effects. This quarter highlights the company's ability to allocate capital and resources to their best use in varying economic climates. The company's strong financial results were due to elevated production in our gain-on-sale businesses, our participation in the PPP, and the continued performance of our core small balance commercial loan portfolio. Revenue sources were diverse in the quarter, with 39% coming from elevated net mortgage banking activities, 31% coming from stable net interest margin and servicing, 24% coming from our PPP efforts, and 6% coming from gain on sale activities.

Key adjustments to core earnings included a $9 million net markdown of our residential MSR portfolio, offset by a $5.1 million recovery of CECL reserves on performing loans. Included in core earnings is a four and a half million dollar increase in CECL reserves on non-performing loans. Our residential mortgage banking business, GMFS, posted excellent numbers in the quarter. Record production of $1.2 billion, in combination with margins exceeding 300 basis points, resulted in 180% quarterly increase in net mortgage banking revenue to $44.1 million. The $12 million decline in the residential MSR valuation due to a 130 basis point increase in CPR assumptions was partially mitigated by a 42% retention rate. At quarter end, commitments to originate reached $582 million, and we believe elevated performance will continue into Q3.

Our efforts in the PPP Program helped tens of thousands of small businesses to maintain jobs at a time when they needed it most. Since the beginning of the PPP Program, we've facilitated the funding of 40,000 loans totaling $2.7 billion. Total net revenue, meaning gross fees paid by the SBA, less payments to agents and financing partners, equaled $46.6 million, $32.3 million of which was recognized in the quarter. We've accounted for the PPP under arrangements with multiple deliverables, which required us to allocate economics between the original sourcing of the PPP loans, the forgiveness process, and the ongoing servicing of the PPP loans. Under this arrangement, we deferred the recognition of $14 million of PPP revenue to future periods. Certain expenses incurred to process PPP loans totaling $5.5 million were booked in the quarter.

We will continue to participate in future government initiatives related to COVID as part of our efforts in the SBA lending business. Gain-on-sale revenue from our Freddie Mac and SBA 7(a) lending businesses totaled $7.5 million . The quarterly increase in Freddie Mac profitability of $2.7 million was offset by a decline in SBA originations due to COVID, which reduced quarterly gains on loan sales to $1.5 million. On the expense side, employee compensation and benefits increased due to commissions and bonus accruals in the residential mortgage banking segment, as well as certain employee payments related to PPP activities. At the onset of the Q3 , we undertook certain actions to right-size staffing levels to projected business activities. We expect these actions, absent additional hires, to result in a 15% reduction in base compensation and benefit costs going forward.

Loan servicing costs increased to $4.8 million due to reserves booked on Ginnie Mae loans in default or in forbearance due to COVID. Quarterly increase in operating expenses are due to the inclusion of expenses related to PPP. Other key items included a $13.4 million quarterly increase in the provision for income taxes due to elevated activities at our taxable REIT subsidiaries. Certain fees due to the investment manager were booked in the quarter. Turning to the balance sheet now. Our main objective in the quarter was to meet all financial obligations, increase our liquidity to account for market uncertainty and to provide for future investment opportunities, and to reduce our exposure to mark-to-market liabilities. We believe our current financial position is strong and reflective of the actions we undertook to meet those objectives.

Current unencumbered cash totals $257 million, a 110% increase from reported March 31st balances. Although this cash position reduced return on equity by over 100 basis points, we believe it has positioned the company to weather additional downside and pursue accretive lending and acquisition opportunities going forward. The successful completion of two securitizations, a $405 million bridge CLO, and a $204 million legacy loan CMBS, had a significant impact in reducing secured borrowings to $1.25 billion and recourse leverage down to 2.1 times. It is important to note that included in that balance is approximately $400 million of financings that support our government-sponsored businesses. We do not believe these to be at risk. Absent these amounts, recourse leverage is 1.6 times.

Additionally, since Q1, we successfully extended two maturing CRE warehouse lines, displaying the continued support our lenders have for our lending programs. Our loan portfolio continued to perform well during these stressed times. Total 60-plus day delinquencies within the CRE portfolio, inclusive of Freddie Mac collateral, remained stable at 2.2%, a modest increase from 2019 year-end levels. Of the 8% of CRE loans in forbearance, 87% continue to pay current. Our change in CECL reserves is reflective of this performance, where we increased provisions on non-performing loans $4.5 million, while decreasing reserves on performing loans $5.1 million, due to slight improvements in modeled assumptions from March 31st. We do not include changes in reserves on performing assets in the calculation of core earnings. Book value per share declined $0.06 per share to $14.46 due to the increase in share count associated with the Q1 dividend.

We expect that the implementation of our share repurchase efforts will aid in the recovery of that dilution. As we've done in previous quarters, the supplemental deck provided includes summary information on the company's earnings profile, various operating segments, and key financial metrics. Instead of taking you through the deck, I would like to draw your attention to slides three, 13, and 14. Slide three outlines various corporate updates. Slide 13 provides additional information on our current CECL reserves. Slide 14, which is new, provides insight into the risk distribution in the CRE portfolio. I hope you and your loved ones continue to be well in these unprecedented times. I will now turn it over to Tom for closing remarks.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Thanks, Andrew. We had a productive quarter managing through this pandemic recession. Our versatile business model featuring government-sponsored businesses provided earnings and liquidity to bridge the period of capital markets volatility. Further expansion of these businesses, including CARES Act programs, together with pending redeployment of excess liquidity harvested during the crisis into relaunch of our net interest margin-based Small Balance Commercial direct lending segments, will provide a ramp to normalized core earnings in subsequent quarters. Our management team seized the crisis as an opportunity to refocus our lending businesses by applying technology to design strategies to cut loan acquisition costs while increasing volume. We believe successful execution of these plans alongside pandemic-spawned lending and acquisition opportunities will over time provide core earnings growth to the benefit of shareholders. With that, operator, we can open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speaker phone please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question please press star then two. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. Our first question comes from Stephen Laws with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Stephen Laws
Analyst, Raymond James

Hi, good morning. Tom, I guess to start off maybe with the triple P gain. Page three talks about $18 million of earnings to be recognized in future periods. Will that all hit in 3Q, or is it going to be more waterfalled out than that?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Andrew, you want to address that?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Sure. It's going to be dependent on two things. A portion of the deferred revenue will be allocated to the forgiveness process, which we expect to be completed within the year. Sometime over the Q3 and Q4 . The remaining amount will be allocated to any ongoing servicing costs. That may extend into 2021, but we expect the entirety of that amount to be recognized over the next four quarters.

Stephen Laws
Analyst, Raymond James

Great. Thanks for that color, Andrew. I guess staying on kind of the income and margins. Resi banking margins, you talked a good bit about the strength there in prepared remarks. Are those margin levels holding through July? Do you expect that to gradually pull back, or will we get even stronger margins here before they normalize? What are your outlook, kind of second half-year outlooks for residential mortgage loans margins?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah. Margins remained elevated in July. Certainly not quite at the levels we saw in April and May, but much higher than where they were in the first quarter. I think we expect throughout the third quarter margins to continue to be elevated. Tom, do you want to give more color on more forward-looking statements than that?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Sure. I think just more broadly, I think GMFS, those sit there, very efficient purchase-oriented mortgage banker with a dominant market share in the Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama area where you have a lot less convexity in terms of prepayments and what have you. Just more broadly, we expect the elevated margins today, as evidenced by the Rocket Mortgage IPO, are really a function of a historic imbalance of a demand for refinancing, given the historic decline in the 10-year versus production capacity in the industry. A number of companies have had to reposition staff and what have you. At this point, the pricing elasticity, which is very atypical for the industry, is a function of that supply-demand imbalance.

Given that, we expect a gradual normalization of the margins over the next, let's say, probably by the Q1 of next year, when the production capacity equals obviously, the refinancing volumes will decline as you work through the inventory of higher FICO borrowers that will be the low-hanging fruit. We expect a gradual normalization going into the Q1 of next year.

Stephen Laws
Analyst, Raymond James

Great. Tom, I guess, to ask one more question, kind of outlook, and apologies if I missed this? I know you talked about CRE lending a good bit in the prepared remarks, but you've resumed lending activity. What kind of volumes do you think you'll put up in the second half? Is it just kind of putting the toe back in the water? How quickly will you ramp back up the CRE lending activity?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

It's interesting. It's basically there's a supply-demand factor at work. Right now, our bridge team, our transitional lending team, estimates that about 65, almost two-thirds of the lenders are still not back in lending. We hear that in terms of color from our larger capital providers, as well as doing our own research. On the flip side, demand is somewhat subdued, particularly in areas that were most affected by the pandemic, retail and hospitality, where we don't really have as much of a focus. We're more multi-family oriented. There's reduced demand, but reduced supply. Along with the way of saying, I think it's going to be until the Q1 of next year before you see our volume back to the levels it was in the Q1 of this year, let's say last quarter of 2019.

Stephen Laws
Analyst, Raymond James

Right. Tom, Andrew, thanks for the comments, and hope you're both doing well, and enjoy your weekend.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Thanks.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve DeLaney with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

Good morning, congratulations on your phase I success. It looks to me that you're well-positioned for two and three. Tom, given that you've survived the tempest of the storm fairly well in terms of liquidity and lowering leverage, seems to me your big decision, not that you don't have challenges in this market, but your big decision really is where to deploy your capital and liquidity. I guess looking first to the buyback plan, the authorization, about 5% of your market cap today. We're seeing the shares at 60% of book. I'm curious if that level, the current valuation, would you say that that meets with your return requirement on the accretion from repurchasing shares at this level?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Yes, it does.

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

Okay.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Andrew, if you want to-

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

Well, I'll-

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Oh, sorry, go ahead. Sorry, Steve.

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

No, I was just going to say, I realize you have to balance that, but I think what you're saying is at this level or lower. I think from a modeling standpoint, we might want to assume some level of buybacks here over the next quarter or two.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Yeah. Go ahead, Andrew. Sorry.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah, Steve, I think that's right. Over the next quarter or two, I think you will see repurchase activity.

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

Very good. Okay, thanks.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

At least.

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

Tom, you guys were able to get through between your securitizations and just not being over-levered in the first place. We have seen now eight transactions. I'm just going to go ahead and call it rescue capital. That's not intended to be demeaning of the companies or the transactions. I think both sides were winners on most of those transactions. It doesn't appear to me that you guys need any defensive capital. The other question is there's money out there looking to partner with people that have opportunities. Would you consider, certainly not talking about common equity, but would you consider partnering or taking on some opportunistic capital rather than defensive capital just to take advantage with the market opportunities, even if you have to share the returns with another entity?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Yeah, I think that's a good point.

To answer that question, one is, we actually are working on a number of straight-up corporate debt transactions, given the fact that we do have some capacity in that regard, probably $100 million-ish. We are moving forward on that front, given the fact that we've stabilized and we have a cash position equal to almost a third of our GAAP book value, equity book value. On the number of REITs, as you pointed out, that have more investment opportunities in relation to their deployable capital, have undertaken JVs with private funds. I think our external manager has around $8 billion of opportunity capital, which we could deploy in a JV with the external manager. A few other companies have done that over the last 3-5 years. I think that door is and has always been open. We've actually historically done that.

For example, Andrew, what was that fourth, the Louisiana Purchase of the non-performing loans? For example, that was a 50/50 split with the external manager. I think right now between the corporate debt capacity that we're working on and the external manager, we have ample capital to leverage the ReadyCap platform and then allocate where we have concentration limits or limitations in terms of overall capital, but yet capitalize on the fee income and any sort of promote that we would get on that investment.

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

Right. That's very helpful. Just one housekeeping. Andrew, when we look at the $14 million remaining PP&T fees, what would be an approximate tax rate we should put on that?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

25%.

Steve DeLaney
Analyst, JMP Securities

25%. Okay. Well, thank you both for your comments, and stay safe and be well.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Appreciate it.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Timothy Hayes with B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Timothy Hayes
Analyst, B. Riley

Hey, good morning, guys. Hope you're doing well. My first question, just kind of staying in line with talking about being opportunistic here. Tom, you made some constructive comments on the resi lending and housing environment, and just wondering if you've considered expanding into some more resi credit-focused strategies, and you anticipate maybe seeing some good acquisition opportunities in the back half of the year, like you expect on the small balance commercial real estate side.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Yeah, we definitely have been looking to expand, broaden our investment activities and lending activities on the residential front. We've looked at some opportunities, basically the fix and flip market, the SFR financing market, single-family rental market, not the property investment, but financing those strategies. Builder lot loans have been on our radar screen. Yeah, there's definitely ways to expand around the opportunity set. We have avoided the non-QM space because we view it as having significant liquidity risk.

Residentially focused REITs. Yeah. I think we will look to expand opportunistically leveraging off the GMFS platform. There are definitely some distressed M&A opportunities that we think both in the private and public space on the C REIT side, I'm sorry, the commercial and residential REIT side that we will continue to pursue along the lines of what we did, for example, with the Owens merger last year.

Timothy Hayes
Analyst, B. Riley

Okay. Interesting. I guess just on the acquisition front, it sounds like you haven't really seen a lot of portfolios trade here. I'm just curious, are you seeing bid-ask spreads starting to tighten a little bit? What do you think will be the main drivers of seeing a lot more acquisition opportunities in the back half of the year, and where do you expect they might come from?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

A lot of them are community banks and regional banks that have taken much larger CECL reserves due to the, what do you call it? The pandemic which was on top of implementation. Granted, they have regulatory forbearance. I think what we're seeing is a lot of sales of either scratch and dent or performing small balance portfolios, which they view as non-core. As of last week, we had about $3 billion that we had tracked, about a fifth traded, and we're currently engaged on about a quarter billion. I think right now there's a significant bid-ask that is due to the forbearance in these SBC portfolios.

It was running at a peak at around 15%-20%. You're seeing roll rates, for example, and our Chief Credit Officer's on right now. I think our roll rates out of forbearance were back to paying were around 85%. When that volume comes down.

Timothy Hayes
Analyst, B. Riley

Okay

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

I think you're going to see a lot more volume in the Q3 and Q4 .

Timothy Hayes
Analyst, B. Riley

Got it. That's good color. Then just small balance commercial real estate prices, as you've pointed out in the past, have historically tracked closer to the resi market than the large balance CRE market. That relationship seems to be a little bit broken in a situation like this. I know it's going to differ by market and asset type, but just wondering how you think broadly SBC real estate prices will trend, and whether we see bear case scenarios where we're really eating into your LTVs.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Yeah, I think the correlation's been 0.8 over the last 25 years using the Boxwood Means data versus the Case-Shiller. I'm not sure that that's decoupling significantly in this recession. Housing is extremely strong due to supply shortages. Our house forecast is now for a decline this year of 2.5% in Case-Shiller. For large balance, the Moody's NCREIF index, we're expecting a 20-ish% decline versus 40 in the last recession. A lot of that is 80% of that is hospitality and retail sectors. Given that 2.5% for housing and the down 20 for commercial large balance, we're expecting maybe a down 10 for SBC small balance. Now if you compare that, Andrew, our current LTV in our portfolio is what? Low 60s?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yes.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Yeah.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

That's right, Tom.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

To answer your question, yeah. If you look at that stress layer on default rates and liquidation expenses, I think we're in a very strong place in terms of principal impairment, in particular in relation to our CECL reserves.

Timothy Hayes
Analyst, B. Riley

Got it. That's helpful. Thanks for taking my questions this morning.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Appreciate it.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Please go ahead.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Thank you very much. One of the major commercial real estate brokers is anticipating a sizable uptick in loan portfolio sales after Labor Day. Their pipeline totals around $3.5 billion, including strategic advisory assignments. I was wondering if those loans, if the average balance was more in line with overall commercial real estate loans, say around $20 million, is that something that ReadyCap would look to participate in?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

I would say we stick to our knitting. We have the trading levels of these FDIC loans on a levered basis via securitization exit, where term financing from banks is probably a 3-500 basis point yield premium. We have ample opportunities there. I would say we wouldn't get out of our fairway and strategy drift into large balance. We have ample acquisition opportunities in our core SBC market.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Okay. When we think about earnings in the quarter of $0.70 core earnings, that included an estimated roughly $0.43 from the PPP program. You've said that there's $8.2 million of remaining PPP fees. I assume the $14 million that you mentioned is the after-tax amount. If we assumed two-thirds of that took place in the Q3 , you would end up with earnings of around $0.40. Are there any adjustments to that we should be thinking about as we project out the next one to two quarters?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Jade, the one thing I'll point out is when you look at the PPP economics in the current quarter, there are certain other items that were heavily influenced by the PPP, such as the booking of incentive fees. Obviously, the calculation of taxes was much higher. When you whittle down the true impact of the PPP, it becomes a little smaller in the current quarter. On a go-forward basis, obviously the $14 million, which is a pre-tax number, Jade, will obviously elevate earnings depending on the timing of the recognition, which will be dependent upon how quickly these loans are forgiven or pay off. With increased residential mortgage banking activity in the Q3 , I suspect that revenue will be high once again.

Depending on how large of a participation we undertake in whatever new PPP programs are rolled out, it could lead to some volatile results over the next two quarters. I think the combination of those three things could add some volatility on the upside to earnings.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Okay. When you said current quarter, were you referring to the Q2 when you say that $0.43 estimate that I provided for the PPP impact in the second quarter? It sounds like that's too much to estimate.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

I think the effects of PPP on the EPS are a little lower than the $0.42. When you take in the totality of the cumulative effects across taxes, incentive fees, and things like that.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Okay. If the PPP earnings were to completely the impact would dissipate, and there weren't other new programs to replace that, are you still targeting the past dividends pre-COVID was at $0.40. Annualized, that represents double-digit ROE. Is that still kind of the target range? Based on the G&A alignments you mentioned, the technology execution that we could be seeing higher ROEs than that.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah, I think the goal in the short term is to get the company back up to stabilized earnings at $0.40 level, and then to grow from there.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Okay. In terms of how you're thinking about the credit seasoning of the book, elevated levels of unemployment. If we were to see a second wave in the fall, is that something that Ready Capital is prepared for in terms of the balancing offense and defense? Also a related question is, did you see any, in recent weeks, pullback from deterioration in economic performance in any of the markets you're operating in?

Adam Zausmer
Chief Credit Officer, Ready Capital

Hey, Jade, this is Adam Zausmer.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah. Go ahead, Adam.

Adam Zausmer
Chief Credit Officer, Ready Capital

Hey, Jade, this is Adam Zausmer. How are you? Yeah. Still significant uncertainty in the market. We do remain optimistic that the credit profile of our diverse and granular portfolio. Tom mentioned 60% LTV. We have 11% weighted average debt yield, so significant capital cushion on these loans. Strong liquid geographies that we're lending in. Tom also mentioned limited hospitality and large retail properties as collateral. Also just generally solid loan structure tailored to sponsored business plans. We think that's going to help keep our portfolio on solid ground. July was the first month where forbearances expired. We mentioned that 87% have remained current. Only 4.5% of our portfolio is under a forbearance today. We expected that number to be much higher. Again, that just kind of speaks to the strength of our sponsors and the commitment to these properties.

Additionally, just in terms of added protection here. The securitization structures that we have, very unique and designed to give us full control of the loans so that we can reach optimal. We're authorized to work directly with sponsors and waive fees and prepayment penalties as needed to get complete control of the loans. Also just the servicing agreements that we have provide really good servicing experience for customers. We have staff that liaises with these borrowers and the servicers so we can reach optimal resolution and identify red flag issues.

Jade Rahmani
Analyst, KBW

Okay. Thanks very much for taking the questions.

Adam Zausmer
Chief Credit Officer, Ready Capital

Sure.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Crispin Love with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Crispin Love
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Thank you. Thanks for taking my questions. First, how much of the PPP volume did you sell during the quarter? How much was on the balance sheet as of June 30th and is on it now?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah. We sold the overwhelming majority of production. Only around $105 million remains on the balance sheet.

Crispin Love
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Are the buyers there, is that mostly banks?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yes.

Crispin Love
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Just one on the repurchase program. Why do you think you needed to increase the program here even though you haven't repurchased any shares with the current authorization? I guess, is there anything that was keeping you from repurchasing any shares on the prior authorization, which I think was first initiated about a couple of years ago?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah. The board of directors given the current share price, decided that more flexibility in terms of an increased allocation was appropriate in this environment. I'd say going to the original program, which is about two years old, we weren't quite trading at the discount levels we are today. The reasoning behind why that wasn't utilized over the last couple months was purely that the company's focus really was on getting to a financial position that was significantly more conservative than we were at the first quarter, just in terms of cash and exposure to mark-to-market liabilities. We feel we're now in a position where we have sufficient cash to not only weather any uncertain downside, but also to start deploying that cash in means that provide the best returns for our shareholders, which includes share repurchase.

Crispin Love
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Thanks. That makes sense. Then just one last one. Tom, I think you said that the percent of loans in the four and five risk bucket is currently around 8%. What did you say it was pre-COVID?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

I don't have that number. Adam, do you have that?

Adam Zausmer
Chief Credit Officer, Ready Capital

Yeah. Hey, Jade. Yeah, it was 4%.

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

4%. That's right.

Crispin Love
Analyst, Piper Sandler

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Hey, guys. Excluding the effects of PPP on earnings, is it fair to say that core ROE was closer to around 10% annualized?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yes, that's correct.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay, great. On the CECL reserves, given Tom's comments that with the expiration of the forbearance, we could see higher losses. Are those already reserved for or do you have to reserve for those in the quarter the forbearance expires?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah, I know our CECL reserve is reflective of current expectations of losses. Actually, in terms of how CECL breaks down, our specific reserves on loans that we've identified is significantly lower than the total CECL reserve we have booked. We do believe it's all captured in the current reserve number.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. The direction of leverage. You're in the range of historically where you are. Given all the risks in the world, were you thinking about leverage going forward?

Andrew Ahlborn
CFO, Ready Capital

Yeah, I think we'll continue to try and maintain leverage ratios around where they're at today. When we look at our recourse leverage ratio, it sort of breaks down into three buckets. The first bucket, as we mentioned, is really to support our government-sponsored businesses. That accounts for about half a turn. The other parts in that recourse leverage are our corporate debt offerings, which we will most likely keep around the same size, may increase a little bit to take advantage of go-forward opportunities. The remaining amount is supporting our core commercial real estate lending and acquisition segment. We'll try to maintain at these levels, at least for the short term.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. Finally, Tom mentioned in his comments you might be rolling out new commercial real estate type of strategies. Can you guys give an indication what this might be?

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Yeah, a couple of things. One is we're looking at expanding our correspondent relationships with other, let's say, smaller lenders that have underutilized agency licenses. For example, Fannie Mae small balance or HUD multifamily, senior housing, what have you. That's one area that the president of our commercial business is looking into. We're looking at other areas, for example, like commercial PACE program to assess clean energy, which is taking on a new life in the post-pandemic world. For example, New York State just passed legislation. That couples very well with our small balance transitional lending business as a form of quasi-equity. Those are two examples where we're looking to expand in the commercial space.

Christopher Nolan
Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. That's it for me. Good show. Thanks.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

Thank you.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Tom Capasse
CEO, Ready Capital

I'd just like to thank everybody for the time today, and we'll be looking forward to our next quarterly earnings call next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.