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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Oct 31, 2022

Operator

Welcome to the Rambus Q3 and Fiscal Year 2022 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, you may press star one on your touch tone pad anytime. If anyone should require assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your touch tone pad at any time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to pass the conference over to Desmond Lynch, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin, sir.

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Thank you, operator, and welcome to the Rambus Q3 2022 results conference call. I am Desmond Lynch, Chief Financial Officer at Rambus, and on the call with me today is Luc Seraphin, our CEO. The press release for the results that we will be discussing today has been filed with the SEC on Form 8-K. A replay of this call will be available for the next week at 866-813-9403. In addition, we are simultaneously webcasting this call, and along with the audio, we are webcasting slides that we will reference during portions of today's call. A replay of this call can be accessed on our website beginning today at 5 P.M. Pacific Time.

Our discussions today will contain forward-looking statements, including our expectations regarding projected financial results, financial prospects, market growth, demand for our solutions, the company's ability to effectively manage any supply chain shortages, and the effects of ASC 606 on reported revenue, among other items. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may be discussed during this call and are more fully described in the documents we file with the SEC, including our 8-Ks, 10-Qs, and 10-Ks. These forward-looking statements may differ materially from our actual results, and we are under no obligation to update these statements. In an effort to provide greater clarity in the financials, we are using both GAAP and Non-GAAP financial presentations in both our press release and on this call.

A reconciliation of these Non-GAAP financials to the most directly comparable GAAP measures has been included in our press release, in our slide presentation, and on our website at rambus.com on the Investor Relations page under Financial Releases. We adopted ASC 606 in 2018 using a modified retrospective method, which did not restate prior periods, but rather ran the cumulative effect of the adoption through retained earnings as a beginning balance sheet adjustment. Any comparison between our results under ASC 606 and prior results under ASC 605 is not an accurate way to track the company's progress. We will continue to provide operational metrics such as licensing billings to give our investors better insight into our operational performance.

The order of our call today will be as follows: Luc will start with an overview of the business, I will discuss our financial results, and then we will end with Q&A. I'll now turn the call over to Luc to provide an overview of the quarter. Luc?

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Des. The company delivered an excellent performance in Q3. We exceeded our guidance for both revenue and earnings and delivered a record $80 million in cash from operations. These strong results were achieved in the context of a challenging macroeconomic environment. Our strategic focus in data center, strength of execution, and diverse portfolio of offerings are driving the continued profitable growth of the company and give us confidence in our outlook for a strong Q4. In addition, we are able to consistently return value to our stockholders, most recently with the initiation of a $100 million accelerated share repurchase program and further debt retirement. Just this morning, we announced that we have extended our comprehensive patent license agreement with Samsung for an additional 10 years.

With this extension, we have solidified a sustained foundation of cash generation from our licensing program that allows us to continue to return value to our stockholders and build our growing product businesses. Samsung has been a trusted partner for many years, and we are very pleased to strengthen our strategic relationship. This extension enables deeper collaboration on products and is a testament to the continued value of our innovations for the ongoing advancement of the industry. Turning to our detailed results, Memory Interface Chips drove another record quarter of product revenue at $58.6 million, up 10% sequentially and 60% year-over-year. This was a great performance from the team, but we remain vigilant as we navigate through dynamic macroeconomic conditions. We continue to focus on execution and are actively managing through a rapidly evolving supply-demand environment.

Visibility is improving in the supply chain, and we expect continued growth in Q4. Demand for our DDR4 RCD remains strong, and DDR5 continues to ship as our customers prepare for the ramp of the next-generation computing platforms. We are in the midst of simultaneous platform and DRAM transitions, and as such, we continue to expect the demand ramp for DDR5 to be somewhat lumpy in nature. With that, our Memory Interface Chip product mix may shift as we march toward the projected DDR4/DDR5 server memory crossover, which we now project to be in the first half of 2024. In addition, as we mentioned in last quarter's call, we expanded our chipset offering with the introduction of our new DDR5 SPD Hub and Temperature Sensor. These companion chips, along with the RCD, are integrated into server memory modules.

We expect production of these parts to ramp in 2023 in line with market demand. As we look to the longer-term evolution of the data center, industry momentum around CXL is accelerating. Multiple applications for CXL-attached memory are emerging, enabling new tiers in the memory architecture. CXL-enabled architectures promise to deliver higher performance and improve total cost of ownership in server generations to come. We continue to work in close collaboration with the ecosystem to develop CXL- solutions for memory expansion and pooling. We're seeing strong engagement from cloud, OEM, and DRAM makers alike and are well-aligned with the market needs and timing. Turning now to Silicon IP, we delivered another strong performance with sustained momentum across multiple markets. We remain on track to deliver $120 million-$130 million in revenue and over 20% growth year-over-year.

Data center and AI are driving robust demand for our high-performance Silicon IP solutions, and we have growing traction in government and automotive. Rambus continues to demonstrate leadership in our areas of focus with major PHY controller and security IP wins. In closing, this was an excellent quarter for the company. We delivered results above guidance and expect an even stronger Q4. We have confidence in the long-term growth of the company but remain vigilant given the challenging macro environment. We are continuing to invest in the right programs for the data center market to drive continued growth, and we are leveraging our strong balance sheet to return value to our stockholders. I am extremely proud of the team, and I want to thank our customers and partners for their ongoing support. With that, I turn the call over to Des to discuss the quarterly financial results. Des?

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Thank you, Luc. I'd like to begin with a summary of our financial results for the third quarter on slide five. Once again, we delivered a strong quarter with our financial results above the high end of both our revenue and earnings expectations and generated a quarterly record cash from operations of $80 million. Our ability to consistently generate strong cash flows has enabled us to invest in our strategic initiatives and consistently return capital to shareholders. During the quarter, we initiated a $100 million accelerated share repurchase program, which immediately retired 3.1 million shares. In addition, we paid a net amount of $54 million to repurchase $39 million aggregated principal amount of our convertible notes. Let me walk you through our Non-GAAP income statement on slide six.

We continue to execute, and revenue for the third quarter was $112.2 million above the high end of our expectations. Royalty revenue was $29.9 million in line with our expectations. It was down from the prior quarter due to upfront revenue for several license arrangements being included in Q2. Licensing billings was $62.2 million. The difference between licensing billings and royalty revenue primarily relates to timing, as we do not always recognize revenue in the same quarter as we bill our customers. Product revenue was $58.6 million, consisting primarily of Memory Interface Chips. Memory Interface Chip revenue was a record for the company, and we are delighted to see such strong demand from our customers. Contract and others revenue was $23.7 million, consisting primarily of Silicon IP.

As a reminder, only a portion of our Silicon IP revenue is reflected in contract and other revenue, and the remaining portion is reported in royalty revenue as well as in licensing billings. Total operating costs, including cost of goods sold for the quarter, was $77.9 million. Operating expenses of $54.6 million were in line with our expectations, and we ended the quarter with a total headcount of 763 employees. Under ASC 606, we recorded $1.2 million of interest income related to the financing component of fixed-fee licensing arrangements for which we have recognized revenue but not yet received payment. Additionally, we benefited from approximately $1.7 million in favorable foreign currency exchanges during the period. We incurred approximately $100,000 of interest expense associated with our convertible notes.

This was offset by incremental interest income associated with our cash and investment portfolio and adjusting for non-cash interest expense on the convertible notes. This resulted in Non-GAAP interest and other income for the third quarter of $2.9 million. Excluding the financing interest income related to ASC 606, this would have been $1.6 million of interest and other income. Using an assumed flat tax rate of 24%, Non-GAAP pre-tax income for the quarter was $28.3 million. With disciplined execution and focus, we delivered earnings that were above the high end of our expectations. Now let me turn to the balance sheet details on slide seven.

We ended the quarter with cash equivalents, and marketable securities totaling $264.8 million, down from the previous quarter as record cash from operations of $80 million was offset by the $100 million accelerated share repurchase program we initiated in the quarter and $54 million net payment to repurchase the convertible notes. At the end of Q3, we now have approximately $10 million in aggregated principal amount remaining of our convertible notes, which are due to mature in February 2023. We continue to execute. We expect to deliver strong cash from operations in the future. At the end of Q3, we had contract assets worth $180 million, which reflects the net present value of unbilled accounts receivable related to licensing arrangements for which the company has no future performance obligations.

We expect this number to continue to trend down as we bill and collect for these contracts. It is important to note that this metric does not represent the entire value of our existing licensing agreements as at each renewal opportunity, we restructure our patent agreements in a manner that allows us to recognize revenue each quarter. Third quarter CapEx was $9.3 million, while depreciation expense was $6.7 million. We delivered $70.7 million of free cash flow in the quarter. Looking forward, we expect CapEx for the fourth quarter to be approximately $8 million. As a reminder, the forward-looking guidance reflects our current best estimates at this time, and our actual results could differ materially from what I'm about to review.

In addition to the financial outlook under ASC 606, we have also been providing information on licensing billings, which is an operational metric that reflects amounts invoiced to our licensing customers during the period, adjusted for certain differences. As we have reported historically, licensing billings closely correlates with what we had historically reported as royalty revenue under ASC 605. Now let me turn to our guidance for the fourth quarter on slide eight. Under ASC 606, we expect revenue in the fourth quarter between $119 million and $125 million. We expect royalty revenue between $29 million and $35 million and licensing billings between $59 million and $65 million. We expect Q4 Non-GAAP total operating costs, which includes COGS to be between $86 million and $82 million.

Under ASC 606 Non-GAAP operating results for the fourth quarter is expected to be between a profit of $33 million and $43 million. For Non-GAAP interest and other income and expense, which excludes interest income related to ASC 606, we expect approximately $500 thousand of interest expense. We expect the pro forma tax rate to remain at approximately 24%. The 24% is higher than the statutory tax rate of 21%, primarily due to higher tax rates in our foreign jurisdictions. As a reminder, we pay approximately $20 million of cash taxes each year, driven primarily by licensing agreements with our partners in Korea. We expect Non-GAAP taxes to be between an expense of $8 million and $10 million in Q4. We expect Q4 share count to be 110 million basic and diluted shares outstanding.

Overall, we anticipate a Non-GAAP earnings per share range between $0.22 and $0.29 for the quarter. Let me finish with a summary on slide nine. I am pleased with our excellent results and the team's execution in this macroeconomic environment. Our strategy is paying off, and we have a diversified portfolio fueled by continued product revenue growth in Memory Interface Chips, sustained momentum in Silicon IP, and the stable backbone of our licensing business. We were pleased to announce we extended our licensing agreement with Samsung for an additional 10 years at substantially the same financial terms.

Which demonstrates the continued strength and relevance of our patent portfolio and innovation engine. I am really pleased that when this extension comes into effect in Q4 2023, we expect to account for this agreement to be recognized quarterly under ASC 606. With continued discipline and focus, we are now well positioned to execute on our long-term strategic plans. We continue to grow the business profitably with strong cash generation and minimal debt, which has enabled consistent capital returns to our shareholders. Before I open the call up to Q&A, I would like to thank our employees for their continued teamwork and execution. With that, I'll turn the call back to our operator to begin Q&A. Could we have our first question?

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question, please press star one on your touch tone telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Rosenblatt Securities. Your line is now open.

Kevin Cassidy
Senior Research Analyst, Rosenblatt Securities

Thank you very much for taking my question, and congratulations on the terrific results. On the Samsung contract, this was a bit of a surprise. I thought it was gonna be. It seems like it's been pulled in by about a year. Is there any reason for that, or was it a surprise to you? I guess, have you already been in negotiations?

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Hi Kevin. This is Luc. Thanks for the question. It was important for us to engage with Samsung on this renewal earlier rather than later, so that we could secure some stability in our cash flows for the years to come. We could show more predictability in our results for the long term and visibility in our results. It also lays the foundation for further strategic relationship with Samsung as we develop technologies and products for the data center for the years to come. It was important for us to put this behind us and to lay the foundation for, you know, long-term relationship, long-term product developments with Samsung. That's the reason we did it earlier.

Kevin Cassidy
Senior Research Analyst, Rosenblatt Securities

Okay, great. Are you working with SK Hynix also then?

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Of course. Yeah. You know, we are in constant negotiation or discussions with our partners. The SK Hynix renewal is scheduled for the second quarter of 2024. You know, as with Samsung, we have a strong relationship and partnership with SK, and we will try to have an early renewal, but we don't make commitment on this at this point in time. You know, some patent renewals can take a lot of time, but the very fact that Samsung has renewed on the same terms is a strong validation of our patent portfolio. We're quite confident in re-engaging a discussion with SK, but there's no guarantee that it's gonna be done earlier.

Kevin Cassidy
Senior Research Analyst, Rosenblatt Securities

Okay, great. Thanks for answering that question. Just one other. On the CXL IP licensing, are you seeing an acceleration of that? Is, you know, 'cause I think most are expecting the volume production of CXL would be 2024, but the ICs, the circuits for that must be in design now. Are you seeing an acceleration in request for IP for CXL?

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Yeah. As indicated in our prepared remarks, you know, our Silicon IP business has grown about 20% year-over-year, and a large portion of that was due to the introduction of CXL and PCIe IP to our customers. You know, our silicon customers are building products using CXL, and we've seen that in you know, the growth that we've shown on our Silicon IP business for this year over last year. When it comes to our CXL silicon products, our own products, we're building our products and these products will hit the market in 2024.

Kevin Cassidy
Senior Research Analyst, Rosenblatt Securities

Great. Thank you very much.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Kevin.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Our next line of questions comes from the line of Mehdi Hosseini with SIG. Your line is now open.

Mehdi Hosseini
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SIG

Yes, sir. Thank you for taking my question. Two follow-ups for the team. I'm just curious if you have looked into a competitive landscape, especially one competitor in China, and whether increased restriction would change the competitive landscape. I have a follow-up.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Mehdi, for your question. Certainly, you know, 2023 will, you know, show some, you know, crosscurrents of both economic and geopolitical situations. O ur business in China is mostly around Silicon IP, and this is a small portion of our business. If there is any impact, the impact is gonna be, in the grand scheme of things, minimal. This being said, we are monitoring that situation between the economic slowdown in China, you know, possible recession outside of China and some restrictions on IP export to China, we may see some headwind for our Silicon IP business in China. Again, the portion of the China business onto our Silicon IP remains modest.

Mehdi Hosseini
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SIG

Sure. Okay. Then just thanks for detail. One quick follow-up as it relates to the product buffer chip. If I just take the midpoint of your guide for Q4, you're on par to grow that part of the business by almost 58%, and we haven't even really started volume shipping of or adoption of DDR5. Hopefully I'm not mixing the two. Are these all engineering work you've done? Or how should I think about what's driving the demand here? How could we think about the opportunities once the DDR5 crossover happens in early 2024?

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Mehdi. That's a great question. I think to some extent, 2022 has been an exceptional year for buffer chip. We had a combination of two phenomena. One is our customers started to build modules for DDR5 in anticipation for the DDR5 ramp, so that was part of the growth that we saw in 2022. Secondly, because the DDR4/DDR5 transition was shifting to the right, because of some delays in the market, our customers also had to buy more DDR4 than they were expecting to. What happened is we had more orders on DDR4 than we were expecting, and we're still in a supply-constrained environment for our DDR4 shipments. You know, in Q3, we could have shipped more, if we had more supply.

You know, in Q4, we still see a gap, you know, between what we supply to the market and what the demand is going to be. That demand for DDR4 is higher than expected because of the shift of the DDR4/DDR5 transition. We may see some adjustments, you know, beyond Q4. I think people will have to, you know, digest their DDR4 backlog over time, and we'll work on the supply for that. You know, DDR5 is gonna start in full production towards the second part of the first half of the year.

We may see some adjustments on the mix in the first quarter that may, you know, show some fluctuations both in, you know, the revenue mix and the margin mix. We had an exceptional year in 2022. Again, you know, people were building in anticipation of DDR5, but now DDR5 is shifting a bit to the right. But at the same time, they had to catch up on DDR4 because, you know, DDR5 was a bit delayed, and that explains why the market grew. We grew much faster than the market. In the long run, we're gonna go through this, you know, adjustment period in the first half of next year, but we will continue to outpace the market growth, you know, throughout the year.

Mehdi Hosseini
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SIG

Do you mind if I just ask a very quick follow-up? I think it's very important to understand. Your DDR5 buffer chip carries a higher pricing, so even if DDR4 buffer chip units were to decline, the higher price DDR5 buffer chip could offset that. We shouldn't expect this as like a pause or a drop-off here as we transition from four to five. Is that a fair characterization?

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

There's certainly at the beginning or the introduction of new technology and ASP difference between the old generation and the new generation, but it also depends on the volume ramp. As volume ramps, you know, that gap in pricing diminishes. It's you know, I think we're gonna have in the first half of the year to work through this transition as you know, people are going to consume their backlog on DDR4. We have solid backlogs for DDR4, and they're going to start to or build further their backlog in DDR5. We're also going to see some price fluctuations as they do that, and we'll monitor that. It's something that we've prepared for.

Mehdi Hosseini
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SIG

Got it.

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Mehdi, just to add on to what Luc said. Yeah, DDR4 certainly does have the lower ASP. DDR5 does have the higher ASP, and that will continue to form the normal pricing curves going forward. I think we've done a great job of managing the product mix over the last seven quarters, where we've been able to deliver record product revenue growth, and that's what we hope to continue going forward. As Luc mentioned, we are in a dynamic transition here between DDR4 and DDR5, but I think we're well positioned going forward.

Mehdi Hosseini
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SIG

Okay. Thanks for the details. I appreciate it.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Mehdi.

Operator

Thank you for your question, sir. Our next line of questions comes from the line of Sidney Ho with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Sidney Ho
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you. I just want to follow up with the last question. With the adjustment period you kind of expected in Q1 over your first half of next year that you just mentioned, what is your current expectation for products revenue for next year? Maybe just follow up to that, some of the memory companies are commenting that lower DDR5 prices in the current environment can lead to faster adoption of DDR5. Are you starting to see that? And conversely, are you seeing any price pressure for your DDR5 products as a result of lower memory prices? A follow-up question.

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Hey, Sidney. Thanks for the question. As you know, we only guide one quarter at a time. Looking ahead into, you know, fiscal year 2023, it's a little bit ahead of us just now. I think what we've done is a fantastic job of executing on our sort of product growth and balancing the mix between DDR4 and DDR5 from there. You know, we've as Luc mentioned in his prepared remarks, we have seen some lumpiness in demand for DDR5, and we expect that sort of to continue into sort of Q4 and Q1. We'll continue to carefully monitor and manage this product mix dynamic as we go forward. From a pricing perspective, you know, we continue to see DDR5 following a normal sort of pricing curve in line with previous sort of generations from there.

We expect to, you know, continue to see the normal sort of price erosion as we go into sort of next year. But overall, we've done a really nice job of managing our ASPs as well as our sort of gross margins. On the product side, they ended up at 63% for Q3. Again, that was relatively flat to slightly up versus Q2. We've done a really nice job in managing both the ASP and also the margin profile.

Sidney Ho
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. That's helpful.

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Sidney, how

Sidney Ho
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Just a follow-up question. Go ahead, sorry.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

No, go ahead, Sidney. Sorry.

Sidney Ho
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Sure. My second question is, we're starting to see some slowdown in data center build outs, either because of supply constraints or just more cautious spending by customers. We are certainly seeing some inventory adjustments from a component standpoint. Are you concerned that there's too much inventory for your parts at these customers? How do you see the demand over the next few quarters? Anything you would highlight in terms of backlog or orders will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

At a high level, I'll let Des comment on the numbers. At a high level, we still see some demand for more bandwidth and more capacity, you know, from our vantage point. We're also facing a major technology and platform transition. We still do see, you know, growth in that market from our standpoint. What we're seeing, however, is that, as I said earlier, we have in Q3 and Q4 a backlog that is higher than what we can ship. What we see is the inventory levels are still lean on the DDR4 generation of products.

What we have to deal with in the first half of next year is to deal with, you know, the platform transition, supply management, and the price elasticity, as you mentioned, between DDR4 and DDR5. We're looking at these three variables. Overall, based on what we see with our customers and partners, you know, when all of these aspects stabilize, we will continue to grow our share in that market. The first half of the year is gonna be that half of the year where we have to deal with, as I said, price elasticity, supply management and the platform transition. We don't see a buildup of inventory at this point in time.

We still see customers in high demand of DDR4 as they're waiting for the ramp of DDR5. As we said in earlier calls, we have a strong position in our DDR5, you know, footprint when this starts in the market.

Sidney Ho
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you very much.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Sidney.

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Thanks, Sidney.

Operator

Thank you for your questions. Our next line of questioning comes from the line of Gary Mobley with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Ashley McCurry
Equity Research Associate, Wells Fargo

Hi, this is Ashley McCurry on for Gary Mobley at Wells Fargo. On that supply situation, I just wanted to ask, are customer order lead times for buffer chipsets shrinking as a result of additional supply coming online? Any additional comments in terms of the supply situation as well as any inventory build on the buffer chipset side of things?

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Hi, Ashley. It's Des. Thanks for your question there. You know, from a supply perspective, we are seeing some additional supply coming online, which has enabled us to drive to the higher revenue growth that we've been able to trend both in Q3 and Q4. As Luc mentioned, though, our demand on DDR4 products was higher than what we could actually supply. We worked with the customers over the next sort of three - six months to minimize that sort of gap going forward from there. From an inventory sort of buildup perspective, I think Luc covered it in the last sort of question.

DDR4 continues to sort of remain lean from a customer inventory perspective. In DDR5, you know, the customers have been building some inventory there in advance of the sort of product transition which will take place in the sort of first half and into sort of second half of next year. Overall, I think the supply situation is improving for us. We've been able to deliver higher product revenue and overall the inventory levels remain sort of normal to lean from there.

Ashley McCurry
Equity Research Associate, Wells Fargo

Thank you.

Desmond Lynch
CFO, Rambus

Thanks.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Ashley.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Again, I would like to remind all participants if you would like to ask a question, it is star one on your touch tone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Chan with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Brian Chan
Managing Director , Head of Data Governance and Analytics, Jefferies

Hello. Asking a question on behalf of Mark Lipacis. We got some positive commentary from the hyper-scalers in terms of CapEx trends. We're curious if that's manifesting in any way for you and for your product revenues in terms of increased order visibility for next year or, you know, any incremental details on demand dynamics would be helpful.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Hey, thank you, Brian. Good question. You know, this CapEx from the cloud service providers translates into the need for more capacity and bandwidth on the memory subsystems. The direct impact on us is going to translate into the demand for next generation DDR5 on the memory bus because it actually adds capacity and bandwidth directly on the memory bus compared to the DDR4 generation of products. As we mentioned earlier, we're also developing CXL products which you know adds a tier of memory to those systems and allows these cloud service providers to either add more memory for a given computing capability or to share you know memory resources between processors, and this is the whole use case of the CXL products that we are developing.

We do see these CapEx investment from the cloud service providers as, you know, a good thing for us, and this is what's driving our roadmap on both the buffer chip and the CXL products.

Brian Chan
Managing Director , Head of Data Governance and Analytics, Jefferies

Got it. Thank you

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Brian.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next line of questioning is a follow-up from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Rosenblatt Securities. Your line is now open.

Kevin Cassidy
Senior Research Analyst, Rosenblatt Securities

Thank you. Thank you for letting me have a follow-up. You had mentioned in your prepared remarks about Security IP as part of Silicon IP. Can you give us a description of, you know, how fast is that growing and, you know, what's the opportunity pipeline and, you know, number of customers, just a rough estimate?

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Yes, as we said, you know, our Silicon IP business is now, you know, on a stable run rate of, you know, $30 million - $35 million a quarter. Approximately, you know, half of it is, you know, interface IP and half of it is security. We have, you know, in these businesses, multiple customers and multiple applications, in particular for security IP. You know, the main markets that we're addressing today are AI and data centers, but we do see growth in government applications and automotive as well. This is an area we're watching. We saw some very nice growth in 2022. We mentioned about 20% growth over the prior year. You know, we have to watch the potential headwinds for that business given the economic environment.

You know, a lot of these customers are startups and, you know, the funding for, you know, new projects may slow down in the current economic environment. We also have to watch, you know, what's happening in China and the possible restrictions we have to address that market. We will continue to grow. We have multiple customers, multiple markets, and we'll grow faster than market, but we think the market is gonna not grow as fast as last year, and I think we're not going to grow as fast as we grew last year just because of the economic environment.

Kevin Cassidy
Senior Research Analyst, Rosenblatt Securities

I see. Thank you very much.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you, Kevin.

Operator

Thank you for your follow-up question, sir. At this time, there are no further questions. This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Luc Seraphin for any closing remarks.

Luc Seraphin
President and CEO, Rambus

Thank you everyone who has joined us today for your continued interest and time. We look forward to speaking with you again soon. Have a very good day. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This now concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect.

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