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Morgan Stanley Technology, Media & Telecom Conference 2026

Mar 3, 2026

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Good morning, everyone. Think it's still morning. Welcome to San Francisco. This is the TMT conference, Morgan Stanley 2026, I'm glad to welcome to the stage Sassine Ghazi, CEO of Synopsys. Sassine, welcome.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Thank you.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

No worries. Maybe just to help level set everyone, maybe it was only just last week we did the results, so maybe if you just help us summarize, you know, what it was you highlighted for Q1 results, what you said for Q2, and maybe a little bit about the '26 guide?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Great. Before I go into the Q1 and the year, it's important to point out that FY26 will be the first year, that we have the combined companies, Ansys plus Synopsys, coming together.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That provided a significant expansion for the opportunity that we have. Synopsys has gone from a silicon design solution to silicon to systems engineering solution. The timing could not be better for these two companies to come together. As you look at the opportunities of Physical AI, you look at the complexity of chips that needs to go into these systems, the holistic approach of designing these systems from silicon to system becomes essential.

We delivered solid Q1. We said what we're gonna do, and we did it.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

We delivered on the revenue toward the top line of the guide. We beat on EPS. We reiterated the guide for the year. It's a great start of the year and gives us confidence to the guidance that we provided.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha. I made one mistake. I should have read the disclaimer at the top.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Go ahead.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Even if I just do that now, we all pretend we didn't do that. Today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements related to our current outlook, expectations, and beliefs, which are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ. Please refer to Synopsys' most recent SEC filings for a discussion of risk factors that may materially affect these statements. Sorry about that.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

No problem.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Back on track. Maybe just with all that's being said, now with the integration of Ansys, what is driving the growth as you look across the group? You know, It looks to be from the outside as though IP and hardware are part of that growth, but how do you see things this year?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Yeah, if again, if you zoom out and you look at where are the opportunities from a market point of view, the complexity of designing the more sophisticated chips for AI applications require deeper integration or what we call co-design, co-design between electronics and physics.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's one area. The second area is, as you envision the world with many companies trying to invest and deliver to more intelligent systems.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... be it a car, a robot, a drone, et cetera, how do you design these intelligent systems by re-engineering the way that you engineer these systems, creating a digital twin.

... be able to reduce the cost, et cetera? That's the second area. The third area is around agentic AI. It's such a great opportunity...

... to tame the complexity.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... of how these products are designed. When you think of the electronics and physics co-design.

... Synopsys with the new portfolio will be leading-

... with having the physics sign off, be it thermal, structure, et cetera, come into the design phase of the silicon.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Actually, next week, we have our conference called Converge.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... where we'll be announcing a number of the joint solutions across these three vectors with the digital twin as long as the agentic effort that we're building.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha. Maybe if we just stay with the agentic effort as you've outlined here. It does look as though you are starting to see a little bit of a competitive advantage coming to yourselves relative to some of the peers. I think on top of that, there's been some sort of suggestion that this will be value-based pricing. Maybe help us understand how could that be done in practice, where are you seeing customer interest arising, and maybe the timeline as well for agentism?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The way we thought about AI is to tame complexity of the work our customers' R&D is dealing with.

We started an investment in 2017 around reinforcement learning.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

We inserted reinforcement learning in every opportunity we have into our product portfolio. We started selling that solution around 2020 timeframe.

... with a similar business model as we've had for EDA.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... which is, license consumption-based.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The next wave was generative AI. With generative AI, that really changed the user interface, the way the user deal with our technology.

Because our customers are dealing with very sophisticated, complex problems they're trying to solve. How do we ramp up new engineers, or how do we make the existing engineer more efficient?

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Think of it as an assistant for the engineer with generative AI.

A year ago, we announced our vision and roadmap for agentic. We think of it as a series of task agents or agent engineers, with a cognitive layer that you can orchestrate around these multiple agent engineers to change the workflow.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The monetization opportunity and the new business model we don't believe will happen unless the workflow will change.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

With agents, it will change the workflow.

When the workflow changes, you're not counting anymore how many licenses am I consuming, and am I signing a 3-year agreement on-prem to get access for these licenses.

The delivery mechanism is very, adaptive-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... because those models are gonna change at a much faster rhythm.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

than the traditional software that we release every nine months.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Most of our customers run that software on-prem today.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

There will be a layer of that once you move into these agent engineers that you need access to more compute, so therefore a cloud model.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The outcome is going to be significant improvement to the time to get to results and the quality of the results.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Okay.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's the opportunity where we see the workflow will change, then the monetization opportunity will be different.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

The workflow here. You know, when you say workflow changes, do we see steps being shortened materially? Is it optimization on certain, like place and route, for instance? How does it all work?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Let me describe it in at the semiconductor chip design as well as the simulation and analysis-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... because they're different, user persona and workflow-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... that you need to think through. At the chip design, the chip design is multiple parts of that workflow.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

You start with the requirements.

... you start really the chip design very much as a software entry point. You go all the way to the last phase, which is process technology manufacturing physics-based.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

If you're going to manufacture, say, at TSMC or Samsung or Intel or GF or whomever, you need to make sure that you have the physics representation of that process technology.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... taken into account during the first phase of the chip design. The workflow has multiple steps.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Some part of the workflow, the agents can do a great job to augment the human engineer and take on certain tasks to make the engineer more effective and efficient.

Other part of the workflow is, better quality of outcome of results.

... faster.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Some part of the workflow is very difficult to bring in an agent to take on the task.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Other part of the workflow, an agent will be perfect fit.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The way we mapped it out last year, they're gonna be L1 through L5 in terms of levels of maturity for agents.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

From a task agent to the orchestration, et cetera.

Today, we are delivering number of tasks, agents or agent engineers with some sort of a cognitive layer to orchestrate these agents, and we're in early adoption with customers.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... what is the impact overall on the time to design the chip and the quality of the chip. With the objective to improve-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... the power or the performance or the cost of the chip.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

When we think of a workflow, it's, in the chip design, it's series of tasks and which task can be, at this stage, delivered to an agent to deliver to it. In simulation and analysis, it's slightly different.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

In simulation and verification in general, it's all about how much verification can I get done in the fastest and shortest time possible.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... because there the bottleneck is time.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

AI is a great opportunity to accelerate.

We're working on number of other investments beside AI. There, for example, compute acceleration like GPU-.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Mm-hmm

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

is another opportunity where, for example, a fluid dynamics simulation can be accelerated by 100x, 300x. That's a significant improvement.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

on a task that may take weeks that you can reduce to days or hours.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah, incredible. A 100-fold increase. Maybe if I just try and just quickly summarize there. Yeah, you're talking about various optimal points across the entire flow. The flow itself could introduce, you know, different agents, maybe multiple agents across the flow. Then there's a difference between the EDA flow, obviously, and what you're doing in simulation analysis. Therein, you did talk about verification. There is a, maybe a concern in the market that some of the coding that's done pre-verifications will go to RTL, for instance, could be done utilizing models at customers. Yet, you know, you have tools that have got decades of data, algorithms behind them and data layers. How do you deal with that competition, that potential risk in the market?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Yes. They are part of the workflow. They're very similar to a software development. You write code.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That part of the business is very, very small because our customer owns writing that code, not Synopsys is trying to write the code for the customer. The tool we provide, once you write that code...

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... is it gonna be functioning? As you go deeper into implementing it into physics...

Are you able to manufacture it?

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

It's not a code that you write and you say, "Okay, that performed the task. I'm done." There's a physics element of it.

The code that is written needs to be physically implemented, and that physical implementation is still using software, then once you go into the manufacturing step, that you need to make sure you have the physics of manufacturing taken into account when you're implementing that physical implementation.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Those are series of complex solvers.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

that we have built over decades in collaboration with the manufacturing technology.

... and at the architectural level. When we talk about agent engineers and task agents, we are leading with the disruptions.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... that we say with AI, there are certain tasks that how do we leverage the solvers that we have?

... with the cognitive layer or any foundation LLM that is out there...

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... and provide a new, better solution for our customers. We, I don't wanna take the thunder out of next week as we're at Converge, but when we talk next week about the series of advancements we've made with these agent engineers is quite remarkable, and the reason we have the advantage is because we own the solvers.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Our customer from a data point of view, et cetera, we have that entire visibility to build these agents.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah. Intimately, the agent engineer will call the solvers, the underlying software tools, so you get a much more deterministic outcome for the client.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Exactly. Then the next phase is when you have an orchestration of these multiple agents.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's where the workflow will change.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha. Okay. Maybe just changing to the new NVIDIA relationship that you guys talked about a month or so back, trying to understand the sort of commercial traction for Synopsys here, timelines to use the work that you're gonna do around Omniverse. Maybe just help us understand how does that work? How do you monetize this? When does it all happen?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Yeah, Dan, we've been a partner with NVIDIA for decades, and what triggered that deeper partnership is really the expanded portfolio.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

When you look at the Synopsys portfolio, historically has been targeted and focused to semiconductor companies, the companies that they're designing chips. As these chips are sitting in a very complex system, be it a data center or a car or a humanoid, et cetera, in order to achieve the best total cost of ownership of these end intelligent systems, a lot of customization is happening.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's where you see a plethora of architecture, ASIC customization, COT happening with these end system companies.

The complexity of thinking of the system as a stack from silicon all the way to software and to the, to the system level, the end product level, is a complex engineering task.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Today, the way our customers are trying to differentiate is how do they reduce margin and improve the cost across the stack?

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

With the Ansys portfolio, we're very uniquely differentiated because we own the physics simulation.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... with the design of the silicon. NVIDIA could see that. They could see that as they're designing themselves a system and as they're trying to capture the opportunity of the future, we have a massive workload for engineering.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Today, you cannot think of any type of engineering, be it mechanical, electrical, electronics, et cetera, that is not using Synopsys one way or another.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Most of these workloads are running on CPUs. The closest opportunity to accelerate is a GPU.

We have a roadmap that we are committed to deliver with joint R&D with NVIDIA by the end of this year, and we have some proof points of number of technology that we have invested prior to that announcement with a range of anywhere between 10x to 20-25x improvement to a CPU.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's a great monetization opportunity. What the customer will see is from many weeks to fewer weeks or days, they're willing to pay extra money and value for that acceleration.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's one layer of the collaboration, is the GPU acceleration. The next layer of collaboration is the digital twin-

... of these intelligent systems. With Omniverse as the, think of it as the cockpit to bring in an end product requirements.

Before you go into the manufacturing of that product, you need to validate will it function in that simulation world, in the physical world, in the real world? You need an accurate physics simulation in order to go from the digital design to the physical design. Again, this is where the Ansys portfolio today, if you think of a car or an airplane engine or, any applications, a drone, a robot, there are mechanical aspects that are driven by electronics-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

... that you need to make sure you have the right, either gas or electric battery mileage. You have the right fluid dynamics to improve the efficiency of the product, et cetera, et cetera.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

This is where the Omniverse partnership is about.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Perfect. Sounds very exciting actually. We look forward to March 11th with the event.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Yes.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah. Superb. Maybe if I take you back to, however, Q3 last year, yeah, we did see a couple of issues come up, which do look like they're now going into the rear view mirror, one of which was in China. Maybe you could help us understand again. It did seem as though IP in China was hitting something of a roadblock, and there were some roadmap issues going forward. Can you just maybe outline what was happening there, and if indeed China as a growth story in IP comes back for Synopsys?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Yeah. Let me describe China then IP as both separate and how did they impact one another. China for a number of years was a very fast-growing market for Synopsys.

... primarily driven by the number of startups. If you go back to 2019, 2020, 2021 timeframe, the number of startups in China doing chip design-

were at a pace much faster than any other region in the world.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That was a fantastic opportunity for Synopsys, not only driven by IP, driven by IP and the rest of the EDA portfolio.

What we've seen over that period of time since then, the number of startups are shrinking.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

There's a headwind coming from the cumulative impact of restrictions on technology in China.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The impact on Synopsys was more significant than our competitors because our position in IP in China was much bigger than any peer that we compete with in China. That's the China dynamic. What we communicated for FY26, we are de-risking China, meaning we're assuming the environment in China will not change.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's the China aspect. Now, from an IP portfolio point of view, we have the largest in terms of breadth of an IP portfolio that serves multiple markets. Today, if you are a semiconductor company designing for automotive, for industrial, for mobile, for HPC, Synopsys is your partner of choice. If you're designing on TSMC, but the next chip is on Samsung, Intel, GF, we have our IP available on all foundries for various markets. That has been our business for about 25 years on IP.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

You build it once, you sell it many times, and you provide the IP before the customer needs the IP. The trend over the last 3, 4 years, especially with AI-driven semiconductor chips, is a lot of customization of that IP. That's where you see companies like Broadcom have been benefited greatly from customization in ASIC.

You see many of these hyperscalers designing their own chips in order to improve their TCO for specific workload.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's a fantastic opportunity for Synopsys.

It's a change in opportunity, meaning we still have to deliver on that broad portfolio that you build it once, sell it many times, and we need to build a new lane.

of customization for these opportunities.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

What we communicated is for that new lane of opportunities, we have to approach it with a different business model and with a different approach with these customers.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

There, if you take the top one or two ASIC companies out, that they have their own IP, the rest of the ASIC companies rely heavily on Synopsys for their business. They cannot have an ASIC business if we don't have our IP business.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

They're very open to adapt to a new business model.

Same thing with hyperscalers. As they're building COT, they're not building an IP-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

group. They need the IP to come from Synopsys, but we need to customize it. When we talked about FY26 will be transition year for IP-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

is for us to continue on serving the current business model and market, and as we adapt and, allocate-.

resources and investment to serve that new opportunity.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

That adaptation of a IP business model, if I remember right, you used the word pivoting to subsystems as a design, which seemed like as though you were dancing close to the idea of making chiplets or custom designing chiplets for perhaps ASIC players or hyperscalers. Is that the right way to see this going forward? Do you see this as a bigger TAM of dollar capture for you guys?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Our customers are pulling us in that direction.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

By the way, when I say customers, in this case are the HPC customers, the hyperscalers and the semiconductor companies building to serve that cohort of customers.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

We've been evolving from delivering an IP as a standalone small block.

... to a bunch of IP working together that sits on a bigger part of the chip.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

We have been down that journey for a number of years now.

What we're trying to change is the monetization of that work.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Got you.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The way we've sold IP is you buy the IP for 1, use on a chip. The next chip, you buy the IP again. The next chip, you buy the IP again. It's been very healthy, great business model.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Now with the customization, you have a use fee plus an NRE.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Given Demand on the resources, and these are scarce resources, we need to have a use fee in NRE plus some sort of a share, think of it as a royalty for these engagements.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Okay.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

That's the period we're in right now. We're in number of discussions with those customers to pivot.

...to a new layer of monetization for that resource investment that we're making.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Okay.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

We're not going all the way to build a chip.

The reason we're not, because we are an ecosystem, the moment we decide to go all the way to build a chip, then we're competing with a whole slew of our customers.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

I would rather sell to many, many, many of those customers and monetize better...

... versus building and competing with the customer.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha. Okay. There's still value to be had coming in and enabling subsystems for customers, utilizing resource to get there, and then taking a royalty in the market afterwards.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Exactly, because in this model, we can engage as an ecosystem to many of either the ASIC-

... or chip companies that are serving that market or the hyperscalers themselves that they're building that chip.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Gotcha. Okay. Maybe if we turn to foundational IP and, I think your number one customer there, There wasn't a pull down on their customers at a certain process node. The suggestion, I think, from yourselves had been maybe just look at that as potentially a zero for this year, the foundational IP from your number one customer. Is that still the right way to look at this? How about foundational IP as a general opportunity for the next 2, 3 years?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

By the way, to from a terminology point of view, there is the foundation. We have two categories of IP. We have a Foundation IP and an Interface IP. Think of them as both are needed to work with a foundry in order to on-ramp customers on their node and technology.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

What we said is for that particular foundry customer, the way we're approaching FY26 from a guide point of view.

... we're assuming that there will be no new design start with that foundry customer in our guide.

If there are, great, that will be an upside.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

We're de-risking it from a guide point of view. Now, we can argue you're being pragmatic with that approach. Yes. Why? Because we have the transformation of the IP opportunity, as I just described, that we need to make sure we capture it as well. From the long term, the opportunity for IP is massive.

For all the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

If you're building a chip and you don't wanna just buy a general purpose from whomever you're buying the general purpose chip for your data center, and ASIC, you're limited to very few players. You want to build either your own chip or work with a broader set of ASIC companies to customize the chip for that third cohort.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

You cannot get to it without the Synopsys IP. That's the opportunity that we want to capture and make sure we have the resources and the investment allocation for that, for that market.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Got you. That makes sense. One more from me, and then I'll open up to the floor. Just on Ansys and the integration now. It seemed as though on the call last week that you pulled forward some of the synergies, the cost synergies maybe to next year, but possibly even this year. Is that the case? Can you maybe help put some numbers around that for us?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Yeah. Actually, it was... By the way, thank you for bringing this point because it does require some attention to share with you the strength-

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

of our balance sheet. We had short-term debt to be paid off over a three-year period. We ended up accelerating it and paid it off in six months. That tells you the strength of the balance sheet we have.

... of the position that we have. Yes, that was paid off from a short-term debt point of view. Actually just Monday, yesterday, we have announced $250 million buybacks.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

With again, that we believe, it's a great return given where we are, from a market point of view.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

The other priority that we're driving, we said there will be $400 million in cost synergy.

... that we'll achieve in three years post the Ansys acquisition. That is being accelerated as well. We have confidence that we'll be able to accelerate and achieve-

... the $400 million in cost synergy much earlier than the three-year point that we set initially.

Dan Simkowitz
Co-President, Morgan Stanley

Perfect. Maybe I will open up the floor at this point, see if there's any burning questions. I've got one down here.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Sassine, more of a near-term question, but one of the concerns that analysts are expressing is around just the core EDA growth slowing from the high single-digit range, even while we're seeing all this, you know, strength in AI compute demand. I guess my question is, why would, you know, EDA, the core EDA growth be slowing in this environment?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Yes. Thank you for the question. How do we monetize core EDA? Either our customer are investing more in R&D and we get a percentage of that increased investment, or they have a need to use more of our new technology. New technology, be it the GPU acceleration, the joint solution with Ansys or the AI technology, et cetera. We have a great monetization happening today in EDA for that cohort of customers, or we call it the tale of two markets today that we're selling into, that are investing more in their R&D, and they are adopting the latest technology to tame the complexity they have. If you look at the broader semiconductor market, there is still a big chunk of companies that they're not investing more in R&D, and they're not racing forward in their roadmap.

Net, when you aggregate these two, this year we're gonna be delivering close to a double-digit for EDA. The long-term confidence in EDA as double-digit, same thing with simulation and analysis at double-digit, as IP in the mid-teens remain given the need for that sophisticated silicon that our customers are building.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yeah. Thanks for that question. Maybe just staying on that. I mean There's a question right there. Oh, is there another one? Sorry.

Speaker 5

Hi. Just following on the same question. I was curious, given the market structure that exists in EDA, you know, why do you limit yourself to the R&D budgets of your customers? Why not think about their revenue, their demand equation, and try to tap into that value creation versus say, "Okay, if I'm customer A and I set my R&D budget at X, well, I hope to get a percentage of that," when clearly those customer companies are tapping into a demand equation that is massively accelerating?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

On the EDA side, the percentage of R&D dollar that's coming to Synopsys and our industry has been increasing due to complexity, due to primarily complexity of what our customer is doing. Where we're seeing the opportunity to capture exactly what you're saying is in IP. In IP is exactly what we're positioning that change in the business model from the historical 25 years that of just a use fee to capture that dollar amount. If you look at percentage of R&D that the EDA used to capture, about 10 years ago, it was in the single digits, 7-ish% or so, where right now it's close to 12%, and that budget of R&D is increasing. The change in the workflow is the new opportunity to change the way we capture value for the impact we're delivering to the customer.

Speaker 3

Got one down the front.

Speaker 5

Thank you. I guess your EDA business is fundamentally a SaaS model. The question is, are you yourself vulnerable to AI disruption?

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

It's not really a SaaS model. Today, it's license-based that is on-prem primarily. The way our customers today, they assess how much money do they spend with us is based on their number of engineers and the tasks they're running. In many cases, you have an engineer running many, many licenses. In other parts of the workflow, one engineer running very few just because of the interaction and part of the workflow. As far as the AI impact, AI is a great opportunity for us. It's actually driving the opportunity to monetize more. I mentioned earlier reinforcement learning, et cetera. Those are techniques that we have product and we're monetizing. Remember, what we deliver, it has a software layer that is driving deep physics solvers and engines that we do.

The AI opportunity to improve the user interface with generative AI, et cetera, we're leading with that innovation to our customers. With the next opportunity of agents, we are leading in building these agents with the solvers that we have. We see it as absolutely a tailwind to simplify what our customers are trying to do, which is very complex already, both at the silicon level as well as the system level.

Speaker 3

Great. I see we're out of time. Sassine, thank you very much.

Sassine Ghazi
President and CEO, Synopsys

Thank you so much. Thank you.

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