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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 4, 2022

Operator

Hello, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the second quarter 2022 SPX Technologies earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one one your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Paul Clegg, VP, Investor Relations and Communications. Please go ahead.

Paul Clegg
VP of Investor Relations and Communications, SPX Technologies

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us. With me on the call today are Gene Lowe, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Jamie Harris, our Chief Financial Officer. A press release containing our second quarter results was issued today after market close. You can find the release in our earnings slide presentation, as well as a link to a live webcast of this call in the investor relations section of our website at spx.com. I encourage you to review our disclosure and discussion of GAAP results in the press release and to follow along with the slide presentation during our prepared remarks. A replay of this webcast will be available on our website until August 11th. As a reminder, portions of our presentation and comments are forward-looking, subject to Safe Harbor provisions. Please also note the risk factors in our most recent SEC filings.

Our comments today will largely focus on adjusted financial results, and comparisons will be with the results of continued operations only. You can find detailed reconciliations of historical adjusted figures to their respective GAAP measures in the appendix to today's presentation. Our adjusted earnings per share also exclude non-service pension items, amortization expense, certain favorable discrete tax items, and other strategy-related items. Finally, we will be conducting virtual meetings with investors over the coming months, including at the Seaport Research Partners Annual Summer Investor Conference on August 24th and the Sidoti Small-Cap Virtual Conference on September 22nd. With that, I'll turn the call over to Gene.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Paul. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. On the call today, we'll provide you the brief updates on our consolidated and segment results for the second quarter. We'll also provide an update to our full year guidance. Now I'll touch on some of the highlights from the quarter. We had a strong performance in Q2, including the benefit of project deliveries in our detection and measurement segment, where we are seeing robust bookings. We continue to see strength broadly across our end markets, and we remain focused on aggressively managing challenging supply chain conditions. We also announced today that we plan to implement a new holding company structure to better align our legal entities with our business objectives and value creation strategy. We will address this in more detail later in the call. During the quarter, we repurchased approximately $34 million of our stock.

While our capital allocation strategy will remain primarily focused on organic growth and acquisitions, we will continue to consider opportunistic share repurchases as a part of our strategy with the potential to reach 5%-10% of our total capital allocation. Finally, we are raising our adjusted EPS guidance for the full year to reflect our strong Q2 results, our outlook for the second half, and the impact of stock repurchases. Turning to our high-level results. For the quarter, both our HVAC and detection and measurement segments generated strong organic and acquisition revenue growth. Total adjusted operating income grew 47%, while margin increased 220 basis points. I am very pleased with our results for the quarter and our outlook for the remainder of the year.

With significant capital availability, an attractive M&A pipeline, and several ongoing organic and continuous improvement initiatives, SPX remains well positioned to continue driving value for years to come. As always, I'd like to discuss our value creation framework. During Q2, we continued to make progress in a number of key initiatives. Our digital initiative continues to move forward. In our CUES business, which sells equipment to inspect and remediate water and wastewater pipelines, we gained further traction with customers standardizing their fieldwork on our GraniteNet software platform, which helps to improve data collection, customer efficiency, and the value customers derive from using our hardware products. On the new product development front, we have had considerable success integrating technologies from TCI and our recently acquired ECS business. This has helped us to launch highly successful solutions and strong project bookings in the communications intelligence market.

We also progressed on our ESG initiative. In Q2, we completed an updated materiality assessment to help tighten our focus on key areas of importance to our stakeholders as we work toward developing multi-year sustainability goals later this year. We published a presentation on our website highlighting our ESG strengths and activities across a number of different focus areas and across our portfolio. With that, I will turn the call to Jamie.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Gene. Prior to reviewing our results and guidance update, I'd like to discuss a planned change to our legal structure. As Gene mentioned, we plan to implement a reorganization of our corporate legal structure to better align with our long-term strategic goals. As a result of this transaction, the name of our company will change from SPX Corporation to SPX Technologies. There will be no change in our ticker and no interruption in the trading of our stock. We anticipate several benefits from this change, such as simplifying our legal structure, enabling more efficient management and growth of our business, including through M&A. By segregating our legacy liabilities and the associated assets, allowing us to explore opportunities to more efficiently address those liabilities.

We currently do not have any plans to seek resolution of these liabilities through chapter proceedings, and we will continue to focus on efficient management of claims and to have claims addressed in a manner generally consistent with historical practices. We have filed an 8-K with the SEC containing additional detail on the reorganization, and we plan to provide more information once the process is completed, which we expect to be on or about August 15th. Turning to our results, we are pleased with our performance for the quarter. We grew adjusted EPS by $0.20 to $0.71 per share, an increase of approximately 39%. The adjustments that Paul described at the beginning of the call include the effect of a non-cash mark-to-market pension adjustment and costs associated with the execution of our corporate legal reorganization.

In addition to the segment income drivers, which I will review later, some below-the-line items had a modest impact on our year-on-year earnings, including lower corporate and stock-based compensation costs, lower interest expense, and a higher tax rate. Our Q2 results reflect continued solid demand in our run rate businesses and strong project revenue. For several quarters, we have been seeing strength building in our detection and measurement project front log, and we are now seeing that convert into strong bookings and revenue in the second half of 2022 and into 2023. Our total backlog increased 56% year-on-year to $517 million, including organic growth of 39% with the remainder from acquisitions. During the quarter, we continued to work hard to manage through labor and supply challenges.

We are pleased with the strong performance of our team and believe we are well positioned for the second half of 2022. A review of our adjusted results reflects strong year-on-year growth across the company. Revenues increased 19.4%. Robust project sales in Detection and Measurement and strong HVAC heating sales contributed to organic growth of 10.2%. Growth from acquisitions was 10.8% and relates to the purchases of Cincinnati Fan, ECS, and ITL. Segment income grew by $11.4 million- $56.1 million while margin increased 70 basis points. The increase in segment income was driven by higher project revenue in Detection and Measurement. Price/cost was a modest margin tailwind for the quarter, and we expect it to be a tailwind for the remainder of the year.

Reviewing our segment results, the HVAC and D&M were strong drivers of overall revenue growth. We also experienced a 1.6% currency translation headwind to revenue due to the strengthening U.S. dollar. Currency had a nominal impact on income and margin due to the strong natural hedges in our cost structure. Let's now review the details of our segment performance. In our HVAC segment for the quarter, revenue grew 18% year-over-year. The acquisition of Cincinnati Fan drove a 9.8% increase, while organic revenues increased 8.9%. Heating was the primary driver of strong organic growth with solid contributions from both price and volume. Adjusted segment income increased by $1.7 million while margin decreased by 140 basis points, reflecting the impact of production constraints. Price/cost was a modest tailwind.

During the quarter, we saw some improvement in labor availability, and we continued leveraging our supply chain council to manage through challenging supply conditions. As we head into the second half of the year, demand levels remain strong for our HVAC segment, as reflected in a 27% organic increase in orders for Q2. Backlog increased 69% to $320 million, including organic growth of 51% with the remainder from acquisitions. Based on existing price increases and current input cost trends, we expect price calls to become more of a tailwind during the second half of the year. In Detection and Measurement, revenues grew 21.7% year-over-year. The acquisitions of ECS and ITL drove a 12.5% increase, while organic revenues increased 12.4% with a growth in all of our platforms.

We are also experiencing a 3.2% currency translation headwind due to the strengthening U.S. dollar. Adjusted segment income increased by 9.7% while margin increased 420 basis points due to the higher revenue, particularly project deliveries which carry a higher incremental margin. Overall, we continue to see solid demand in our run rate businesses and strong project orders and deliveries, notably in CommTech, where we have seen meaningful project synergies related to the ECS acquisition. Q2 segment orders increased approximately 14% organically. Backlog increased 38% to $196 million, including organic growth of 25% with the remainder from acquisitions. Turning now to our financial position at the end of the quarter. Our balance sheet and liquidity remains strong and position us well to continue our organic and inorganic growth initiatives.

During Q2, we purchased 707,000 shares of stock at an average price of $47.70. This amounts to 1.5% of our outstanding shares. We continue to have approximately $66 million of remaining availability under our current authorization for this fiscal year. We would anticipate continuing opportunistic share repurchases reaching up to 5%-10% of our overall capital allocation, while our primary focus will remain on acquisitions. In regards to overall cash flow, as previously noted, we anticipate the bulk of our cash generation in this year to come in the second half.

Notable cash uses this quarter included a tax payment of approximately $40 million related to a gain on the sale of Transformer Solutions, which closed Q4 of last year, $34 million in share repurchases, and $20 million of strategic inventory investment related to the management of supply chain. Moving on to our guidance. We have increased our full-year 2022 guidance to reflect the strength of our Q2 results, solid second half demand, and the impact of recent share repurchases. We now anticipate higher full-year revenue in both HVAC and Detection and Measurement, and we have increased our midpoint adjusted EPS guidance by $0.08 to a range of $2.70-$2.85. Our new $2.78 midpoint represents year-on-year growth of 19%.

We are also increasing our guidance for adjusted operating margin to 11.5%-12%, or the upper end of our prior range, which was 11%-12%. With respect to the cadence of earnings for the remainder of the year, we would expect Q3 to be operationally similar to Q2, but with modestly higher corporate calls and a higher tax rate. In HVAC, based on analysis of our current backlog, price increases we have implemented, and recent commodity price trends, we currently expect Q3 HVAC results to be similar to Q2, with a significant increase in Q4. We now expect full year HVAC margin of approximately 14% or the lower end of our prior range of 14%-14.5% due to continued supply challenges, partially offset by higher pricing.

In Detection and Measurement, based primarily on increased project orders, we anticipate second half results to reflect continued strength, with Q3 being similar to our strong Q2 results, followed by an even stronger Q4. We continue to expect full year margin in the 19%-21% range. As always, you can find modeling considerations in the appendix to our presentation. I will now turn the call back to Gene for a review of our end markets and his closing comments.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Jamie. Overall, we continue to see broad strength across our end markets. In HVAC, our North American cooling demand continues to reflect the strength of macro indicators such as the Dodge Momentum Index, while heating orders remain at healthy levels. In our Detection and Measurement segment, while we see some pockets of flattening, overall demand remains strong, particularly in our CommTech and transportation platforms. One of the biggest questions we've been getting recently is about how our diverse set of businesses would respond in an economic downturn. Overall, we feel good about our positioning for growth over the coming years based on strong secular trends such as infrastructure spending.

While we do have some shorter cycle exposure, we believe that we would experience more moderate impacts than many industrials in a recessionary environment, as we did during the recessions that occurred in 2008 and in the early stages of the COVID pandemic. A significant portion of our revenue, about 2/3, comes from replacement sales, and many of our products are in regulated markets or markets where their use is mandated as safety equipment. These products are often sold to government, utilities, and other quasi-government customers, which tend to show more resilience in downturns. Our residential market is primarily our hydronics business and is largely replacement demand. In prior downturns, these factors helped balance out shorter cycle effects elsewhere in the portfolio. In summary, I am pleased with our strong Q2 results and our positioning to continue our growth journey.

We continue to experience solid demand trends while managing through supply chain constraints, and believe we are well positioned for a strong second half 2022 and beyond. We have raised our EPS guidance to reflect our Q2 performance, a solid outlook, and our recent share repurchases. With a strong balance sheet and a highly capable, experienced team, I'm very excited about our opportunity to continue creating value for shareholders in achieving our SPX 2025 targets. Now, I'll turn the call back over to Paul.

Paul Clegg
VP of Investor Relations and Communications, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Gene. Operator, we are ready to go to questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Damian Karas with UBS. You may proceed.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Hey, good evening, guys.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Good evening.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Nice to see some share repurchase. Been waiting a while for that. I guess some discretionary activity, $48, not too shabby.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Yeah.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah. We were pleased with that.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

$47.70

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

I wanted to ask you about the kind of margin guidance here. Gene, your commentary all sounds really positive on the demand front. You know, good visibility and into the second half. Just given the sales ramp, it just feels like the margin guidance might be a little bit light. Would appreciate any coloring that you'll be able to provide on kind of the margin cadence and how you're thinking about that through year-end.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Good question there. We're back to where we started, we were very pleased with the quarter. As we look at the back half of the year, we see good bookings, a trend in our portfolio. We see good backlog specifically to the margins. You know, when we look at the rest of the year, we still see some risk out there in our supply chain. As Gene noted in his comments, we do see it stabilizing, in some areas it's getting better. There's still things that pop up. We still see some labor challenges in our Olathe plant, in particular in our Dennisville facility. We took, you know, what we felt like was a very measured approach with our margins.

You know, there are opportunities for their margin to be on the high side of what we've laid out in our guidance, as well as some risk areas. It really depends on where the supply chain falls. I mean, we feel like through so a lot of the CI initiatives that have taken place already, that we were working on, you know, a year or two years ago and some of the progress we made, we feel like we've dealt with the supply chain very well, much more stable than it was last Q3 when we first raised the point. It's still out there. We have some risk there, but also some upside there. We feel like we've called out a couple of times, you know, backlog. Been asked about backlog.

We feel like at one point we had some possible cost risk there. As we see some commodities pricing come down, we see probably some opportunities there if costs go our way. There could be some opportunities in margin there. Then the last piece is really the project deliveries. We had a really strong quarter across our D&M platform. As projects play out and a number of bookings on both our CommTech and our transportation platforms, as those projects play out, you know, this is a complex process to get those out the door and delivered. We feel good about that, but we've also been measured about how we saw that, you know, playing out the rest of the year. As you know, that's an area that carries a very high incremental margin.

As those ship the margin opportunities, you know, are enhanced, commensurate with that.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Great. That's really helpful. I wanted to ask you about some of these acquisitions. At least relative to where we were modeling, they seem to be contributing a bit more. Could you just talk about how these newly acquired businesses are performing relative to your expectations? I guess also, you know, just more broadly, how is the integration going and how are you finding things?

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Sure. I'll start on that, Damian. You know, we've done 11 acquisitions, and we actually have really good data, and we track this very closely. I think, net-net, I would say very positive. These, you know, I'd say the most recent acquisitions that we've done, that would be Cincinnati Fan, Sealite, Sensors & Software, ECS, and ULC Robotics. I would say five of them are performing at a very high level, even ahead of our expectations. But really the only one that's a little bit off in terms of where we thought they would be would be ULC Robotics. This is a business we've talked about.

We feel very good about the future of that business and the traction they're getting with not only their CISBOT product, but with some of the other markets that they're participating in, solar, robotics opportunities as well as some cross border opportunities. I think the punchline is, if you look across our 11 acquisitions that we've done over the past three years, that's a very good success story. That's even with ULC, which I would say is off model. I would say ULC is progressing positively this year. We have been awarded some really nice business going into 2023 that we see some further growth there going into next year.

In terms of the integrations, I think, overall it's a very positive story, and it does vary by the acquisition that we did. For example, Sensors & Software, and as he said, these are really like new products as a part of Radiodetection, and those have really done well. They have taken a really good technology and we've scaled it globally. We've gotten some really nice revenue gains throughout our channel there. You know, some of the other ones as well, PK, Patterson-Kelley, which is really high efficiency non-resi boilers, has given us a very attractive channel, and we've had nice inroads in expanding our presence in the non-resi space. You look at Sealite, ITL and Sabik, we really think we've built the global leader in the AtoN business.

You know, net-net, I would say we feel really good about the progress we've made on building out our platforms. I'd also say the runway in front of us is very, very attractive. We actually have very detailed plans for all six of our platforms, both for our organic strategic growth initiatives, but our inorganic. As you know, with our SPX 2025 plan, that's a continued part of our investment in growth, and you're gonna continue to see further expansion there. Net-net, we're very pleased with where we are, and we think there's a lot of opportunity in front of us.

Damian Karas
Senior Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Thanks, team. Appreciate it. I'll hop back in the queue.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Damian.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Bryan Blair with Oppenheimer. You may proceed.

Bryan Blair
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Thanks, guys. Solid quarter.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Bryan.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Thanks.

Bryan Blair
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

To help us think about growth momentum into the back half, maybe provide a little more color on order rates by platform and where you're seeing, you know, any shift through July relative to the Q2 trends, and within reset sales guidance, the $25 million raise in HVAC, $13 million in D&M. Is there meaningful weighting to a given platform in either segment?

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

I'll start on that, Brian. Just kind of at a high level, and then Jamie or Paul, you guys can kind of fill it out a little more. I think net-net, across the portfolio, we feel really good. You know, the amount, the order rates are up very much year-over-year. Backlog's up 40%. We have such a stronger backlog position that really, I think sets us up very nicely for the back half of the year. If you look at it by platform cooling, we feel good. U.S. and Asia are very healthy. Orders are way up, 50% year-over-year. One of the challenges we've been having there is labor, and our challenges there are moderating. We've done a nice job building out the team.

If you look at the macro data, the Dodge appears very favorable for 2022, 2023. Cooling, we feel good about. Heating demand remains healthy. We're managing the supply chain there, and we're actually getting some nice wins on our high efficiency expansion there. Our largest segment is HVAC, and we feel like we're well positioned going into the back half of the year. For Detection and Measurement, the way that I think about it is overall, the run rate businesses, which is about 2/3 of the revenue there, I'd say is very healthy. We're seeing the U.S. being a little stronger than Europe. And overall, we're seeing some very strong areas. We are seeing a few areas that are a little flatter. I'd say our AtoN obstruction is more flattish.

Overall, we're seeing very, very good gains there, and I think we are very well set up and have a lot more backlog than we typically have in the runway surface space. Then on the projects, this is where I think we have a really good success story where we've talked about the front log activity for a while, but this is not activity anymore. This is now orders and revenue. In particular, contact and transportation have had a number of very nice strategic wins that I believe set them up, set us up very well for 2022 and 2023 in those businesses. When you put it all together, we are being careful. We are being.

We are watching the end markets very closely, particularly with, you know, some of the macro items going on, so we're staying close to that. With everything that we've seen to date, we feel very good about 2022, and we think we're starting to set up nicely for a nice lead into 2023. Jamie or Paul, do you guys have anything you'd like to add or comment on?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah. I think that was a good overview. The only thing I would add, it kinda ties this question back to the last question about acquisitions. We saw some really good order increase and some good bookings and now working into 2022 and 2023 backlog with our CommTech business. I think it's really been a good testament to the synergies that we've been able to get by putting our legacy TCI business together with our ECS business that we bought last year. You know, we took really two distinct product offerings, by putting them together and making them available to different customer channels, that the legacy TCI and ECS, we've been able to see a lot of activity with that combined product. We saw a really nice, you know, pickup in bookings this quarter.

We've got a nice backlog, but we're very pleased with how that acquisition has really integrated the sales teams together and the product offering together that we think differentiate that product out there in the marketplace.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

That's a great point, Jamie. That kind of links back to Damian's question on M&A.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Right.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

That's where the deal thesis or the product thesis was by putting these two products together, you'd have a much more valuable product. That has resulted in tens of millions of dollars of orders that we don't believe we would have gotten.

Had we not had this joint product together. Yeah, that's a great example on synergy and integration on the M&A question as well.

Bryan Blair
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

That's helpful color. Another kind of level-setting one. You've called out constraints in HVAC for, you know, since last year. How has that trended quarter-over-quarter, either in terms of a dollar figure or margin impact, particularly Q1 versus Q2 of this year? Then what's contemplated in the back half given we're seeing something in terms of those constraints?

Paul Clegg
VP of Investor Relations and Communications, SPX Technologies

Well, maybe one thing that we can start with is.

Bryan Blair
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

We're seeing something in terms of those constraints.

Paul Clegg
VP of Investor Relations and Communications, SPX Technologies

Well, maybe one thing that we can start with is that we did call out in the prepared remarks the cadence for the quarters that we were anticipating for the rest of this year. In HVAC, we're anticipating that the third quarter will be relatively similar operationally to the second quarter. The same in detection and measurement impacts, with, of course, your seasonal upswing in the fourth quarter due to stronger heating sales. Then on the detection and measurement side, more project deliveries in the fourth quarter. In terms of specifics on the impact of constraints, we didn't really break it out, but you can clearly see that there was a significant improvement from 2Q from Q1.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah, I think you can see the gap between Q1 of HVAC margins has closed quite a bit. We expect that to close further in Q3 and to actually turn around in Q4.

Bryan Blair
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

Okay. That's fair. Last one for me. I'll reiterate that it was nice to see repurchase activity in the quarter, particularly where your stock was trading earlier. But we also appreciate that, you know, you're calling out, you know, up to 5%-10% of capital allocation given your preference for strategic effort. I guess on that front, how has macro uncertainty affected your deal funnel over recent past? You know, that your strategic interest is there, capacity is obviously there. More curious how recession fears, shifting rate backdrop, tax policy, are affecting the other side of the table.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah. Bryan, it's a good question. What I would say is what we see in front of us is very solid activity. We have not seen really any change in activity levels and the amount of front log activity on M&A or on pricing as well. It's been pretty steady. If you look at the macro M&A data, that has slowed down a little bit. It's something we're keeping our eyes on. I think to your point, some of the macro uncertainty may be affecting that. As a reminder, as you know, a lot of our work is done. We start with strategy. I believe we have six very robust platform growth strategies. A lot of our activity is proprietary, where we're out talking to people outside of a process.

I would just say overall, we feel good with where we are. I feel really good about our platform growth strategies, and I'd say we're on track for our SPX 2025 plan.

Bryan Blair
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer

All great to hear. Thanks again.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Bye.

Paul Clegg
VP of Investor Relations and Communications, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Bryan.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Thank you, Bryan.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Steve Ferazani with Sidoti & Company. You may proceed.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Evening, everyone. Just wanna briefly

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Hey, Steve.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Just wanted to briefly ask about the timing of the reorganization. I could see that would have made sense for a while. Any impetus to doing it now? Did anything lead you to say, All right, now we have to do it?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Thanks, Steve. This is Jamie. Great question. You know, the timing, I would say you're right, it has been kinda on the agenda and needed for a while. I mean, the first point we made in the prepared remarks, simplify our structure, was the big driver. I mean, SPX was formed over many years. The legal entity structure was kind of an evolutionary process. It had a lot of acquisitions and several dispositions through the years. It was just a good time to do that. That being said, we think that this legal structure simplification, you know, as we said, gives us a lot more opportunity to manage our business internally much more efficiently.

It will help us make an M&A transaction where we're a buyer, put the new acquired entity into a better spot that we can manage it better. It also, you know, segregates our legacy liabilities, both on the liability side, and the asset side, and it actually helps us manage those better. We do spend resources internally overseeing those, and by having those assets and liabilities segregated into to their distinctive legal entity, it just gives us a much cleaner organization that we think it helps us, you know, think about it, strategize about it, and manage it much more tightly and much more effectively.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Does this have any impact on corporate costs moving forward after the, obviously, the actual transaction costs?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah. I would say in the near term, on a day-to-day operations, no. Over the intermediate term and longer term, we certainly believe this new simplified structure can lead to process improvement and some re-engineering of process. We do think that. I don't think it's necessarily a material item. I think when we move into an acquisition mode, as an example, I do think it helps us be more efficient. More effective at that time is probably more where the impact we'll see. From day- to- day, today versus tomorrow, it won't be any immediate, you know, really change in the corporate cost structure at all.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Okay, great. That's helpful. When I think about, you know, infrastructure spending, and I guess we haven't necessarily seen it funneled to states or end users yet, are you seeing anything across your platforms to indicate some of that spending is coming? Are you seeing any impact yet?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah, I can talk about some areas, Steve, that we are seeing. I would say that across all of our businesses, this is an area we're focused on. As you know, this has the potential to touch a lot of our businesses. I can tell you that we're very aware and involved in some bidding activity. I can think of projects and work we're doing. This is probably more for 2023.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Mm-hmm.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Probably 2024. We're seeing activity with regards to our CUES robotics platform, with regards to our Radiodetection under the locate business. We're seeing some movement in some areas with regards to our lighting. I would say we have seen very healthy activity in our transportation. Now, I don't know if that's directly tied to the bill, but we've seen a lot more, I would say, movement and activity, which we believe is caused by the monies that are coming in from the infrastructure bill. Net, I think I would say the only place that I think that it's really materially hit us, where we've seen some awards that I do believe are impacted there is on transportation.

I do think that should be a positive driver for 2023 and 2024.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Great. I did wanna follow up on the question about supply chain and component shortages, 'cause we're sort of at the latter stages of earnings season. I've certainly heard from industrial companies that are at least citing component shortages, the issues being more diverse and popping up now in areas they would have never expected and creating more day-to-day challenges and problems, when we would've thought it would've been smoother. Are you not seeing that?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah, I would say we're still seeing that. I think, you know, when we were together at our Q3 call, we raised this point as the first time it really had hit us in a material way. We have taken a lot of actions since that time. I'll call out, you know, some cash investment in supply chain via inventory build. You know, so let's call that just an increase in our safety stock levels. We think that has helped us minimize the variability from day to day, week to week on having components in-house to do our jobs. We have done a lot of work around adding resources and adding sourcing, you know, channels. We did not have a large exposure on single source items, although we did have some.

All the cases, whether we were single source or dual source, we expanded our supplier base. That takes time with an engineered product, but that is something that we've worked on, you know, kind of multi-sourcing. You know, we have a chart that kinda says what's stable, what's difficult to manage, and we have things on our watch list. I mean, the normal suspects that I'm sure you're hearing from everybody, the electronic components are top of the list. I mean, everybody's experiencing that whether you're a car manufacturer, an industrial assembler like we are, power modules.

I'd say things that are coming in via the water through shipping freight across the ocean is a challenge just because, you know, there's still a big imbalance, if you will, of where ships are located around the world.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Mm-hmm.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

The time delays that can take place. We think some of the safety stock build that we've done has helped alleviate that or at least reduce the variability of that from day- to- day. I don't want to lead you to believe that we're not still having challenges because we are. We do think that we've, you know, been able to manage them, you know, very well.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Just one addition there. We do have, as a part of our business systems supply chain council that has been very, I would say, effective here, pushing out best practices such as we know every bill of material item, its stocking position for the forward month, forward three months, that we've rolled out to every one of our businesses, and a lot of tools and techniques. The other thing I would say is, because our labor, our frontline labor has really improved across our business, that has been a net positive. I would agree with Jamie here. I'd say the market is probably flat to slightly better, but I think we are managing this much smarter and that's why we're having some success here. It's still a choppy market out there, no doubt.

Steve Ferazani
Senior Equity Analyst, Sidoti & Company

Great. Thanks, Gene. Thanks, Jamie.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Sure.

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from Walt Liptak with Seaport Research. You may proceed.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Hey, good evening, guys. Good quarter. Just got a couple of follow-ons. Maybe we can hit these pretty quick. The new structure, were the costs do they flow through second quarter, or are there gonna be costs in the future? How are those gonna get reported?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

The costs to accomplish the restructure, is that your question?

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Yes.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah. The costs primarily flowed through the second quarter. That is included in the slide that we showed the reconciliation between GAAP earnings and adjusted. It flows through the line item called other. We adjusted that into our out of our GAAP numbers into our core results to give you the best reflection of our operating performance.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

The majority of those costs are in the second quarter.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay. Got it. Okay. It's great to see the TCI and ECS combo working for new products. How should we think about that order? Is this something that's, you know, one-timey or is this part of a recap cycle? You know, or is it something that could be scalable, you know, around the world? How sustainable is the future orders?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Yeah, that's a great question on that. You know, first of all, again, we're very pleased with the combo of these two companies. They've done a really nice job of putting their sales teams together and putting the product offering together and getting them out in the marketplace. You know, we think this is the project business. It certainly has its, you know, variability to it. We actually think we've got some, you know, good legs for sustainable, you know, growth here. You know, if you look around the world, I mean, obviously. First of all, we think we have a good product offering. We think we have a better product offering together than we either of us did separately before, so that's a win in the marketplace by itself.

If you look at the sources of where our products have gone historically, you know, the world has a lot of geopolitical activity going on. As things are, you know, let's just say countries are on heightened alert, we've done a lot of business over the years with the Department of Defense and allies. And as countries are a little bit on heightened alert about just making sure they understand what's going on, our products are something that is really attractive for a lot of those folks. And so we think that, you know, heightened alert, if you will, is probably something that's gonna last for at least the foreseeable future.

We think the demand for our products in general, and especially the combination of ECS and TCI's product together, we think has got, you know, really good legs on a, you know, outlook basis. The bookings and the backlog that we're working on certainly gives us an indication of that.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay, that's great. The orders, the bookings that you took in, did those start shipping in the second quarter, or is that gonna come way later, like in 2023?

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

It's a combination, you know, on this piece of our business, because we're working with the Department of Defense in general, and then often through the Department of Defense with other allied countries. There's a lot of steps that go through the process. In fact, I think I remember our President of this group saying in some cases there's up to 30 steps that go along in the process of getting an order, you know, getting it through the system. It takes time.

That being said, we do have some orders that have come in this year that we have already shipped, but I'd say the majority of it has got some time period to be able to, you know, assemble, produce, get all the supplies in and get it shipped and get it to the destination, which also involves getting folks on the ground to do some training. A lot of our, what we've seen as backlog has been booked this year. We see that, you know, taking place in second half of this year into 2023. We did see some of that flow through the P&L this quarter for sure.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Maybe I'll just ask the last one because we're probably late in the call. The M&A pipeline, Gene, I wonder if you'd just talk about how you're feeling about the pipeline and valuations, you know, are valuations coming down at all from some of the lofty levels that have been talked about in the past?

Gene Lowe
President and CEO, SPX Technologies

Yeah, Walt, it's a good question. I'd say if I look at it by our platforms and kind of break it down, you know, on the HVAC side, cooling and heating, you know, I'd start by saying, you know, there are a lot of lofty valuations there, but we've been pretty prudent in how we've purchased . As a reminder, our blended net price has been about 10.4x EBITDA before synergies, somewhere in the eights after synergies. What I would say on pricing in general is not a lot of change positively or negatively. I'd say that's probably pretty consistent with what we're seeing.

We do see some nice activity in cooling, both in terms of, you know, where engineered our quality Cincinnati Fan gives us a really nice leg in the air movement, already have some strong confidence on. We actually think there's some further areas to build out there. We also think there's some further areas to broaden our cooling solution. Again, aligned with our strategy on the heating, we see some interesting opportunities. I would say, as you know, Walt, we've done a lot of building and actually I think built a really strong AtoN platform. There's more opportunities there as well as in our location and inspection.

I think if you look at across the six platforms, there's a good amount of activity and it's something we've got to keep our eyes on because if we do go into an economic downturn, that could pull some sellers out of the market. With what we see right now, I'd say there's. I wouldn't say increasing, but I wouldn't say decreasing. I'd say a pretty steady level of activity across our platforms.

Walter Liptak
Industry Analyst, Seaport Research Partners

Okay. All right. Sounds great. Thank you.

Jamie Harris
CFO, SPX Technologies

Excellent.

Operator

Thank you. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Paul Clegg for any further remarks.

Paul Clegg
VP of Investor Relations and Communications, SPX Technologies

Okay. Thank you very much for dialing in, and we appreciate your interest. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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