Good afternoon, and welcome to Skyworks Solutions Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2020 Earnings Call. This call is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the call over to Mitch Haws, Investor Relations for Skyworks. Mr. Haws, please go ahead.
Thank you, Rob. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Skyworks' 3rd fiscal quarter 2020 conference call. With me today are Liam Griffin, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Chris Senesaw, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that our discussion will include statements to future results and expectations that are or may be considered forward looking statements. Please refer to our earnings press release and recent SEC filings, including our Annual Report on Form 10 ks for information on certain risks that could cause actual outcomes to differ materially and adversely from any forward looking statements made today.
Additionally, the results and guidance we will discuss include certain non GAAP financial measures consistent with our past practice. Please refer to our press release within the Investor Relations section of our company website for a complete reconciliation to GAAP. With that, I'll turn the call to Liam.
Thanks, Mitch, and welcome, everyone. Before we discuss our Q3 results, I want to briefly comment on the COVID-nineteen pandemic, which continues to impact families, businesses and markets worldwide. I'd like to start by recognizing the tireless efforts of our talented Skyworks team as we've rapidly adapted and responded to a new working environment. We've implemented rigorous protocols designed to protect the health and safety of our employees along with our valued customers and trusted partners. In parallel, we continue to deliver the vital connectivity solutions that people worldwide are depending upon to navigate the pandemic.
Now we'll turn to an overview of our 3rd quarter performance. Skyworks delivered results well above consensus in the June quarter as our Sky5 platform gains traction powering innovation in 5 gs applications at the leading smartphone OEMs and increasingly across our IoT customers. For the Q3, we reported revenue of $737,000,000 nearly $50,000,000 above our guidance. We achieved gross margin of 50.1 percent and operating margin of 31.3%. We posted earnings per share of $1.25 beating our guidance by $0.12 and we generated strong operating cash flow, totaling $259,000,000 in the quarter.
Our momentum continues to improve, reflecting on our execution across a rapidly evolving business landscape as well as the broadening adoption of 5 gs. A few data points highlight the growth of this critical technology. Globally, 5 gs subscriptions are continuing to grow with estimates approaching $3,000,000,000 over the next 5 years. 5 gs handset demand is accelerating across a diversified set of customers and geographies. In fact, in China, during the month of June, approximately 60% of all smartphones sold were 5 gs enabled.
And a new 3 gsPP standard was also released, validating the extension of 5 gs technology into IoT, V2X, multimedia broadcast and other services. Clearly, 5 gs along with other advanced wireless technologies such as Wi Fi 6 and enhanced GPS are spawning new usage cases and fortifying the backbone of an expanding connected economy. During the quarter, we secured key design wins across numerous applications from the mobile phone to industrial IoT, automotive, cognitive audio, aerospace and defense. Specifically in mobile, we are expanding our Sky5 platform across multiple flagship 5 gs models at Samsung, Motorola, Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi. In addition, we are populating some of the highest performing 5 gs platforms that we'll be launching later this year.
In IoT, we're enabling AT and T's tri band gateways with our Wi Fi 6 solutions, ramping indoor and outdoor access points at Aruba, Juniper and Linksys, powering integrated connectivity in Amazon and Ring security systems, launching voice assistant solutions and mesh routers at Google, and we're leveraging our 4x4 MIMO and Wi Fi Engines in premium sound bars at Sonos. In addition, we delivered new cognitive wireless audio solutions powering the leading gaming headsets. Now moving to the industrial space, we are supporting IoT platforms at Bosch and Gemalto and leveraging our GPS Circulator and Advanced Filter Solutions at leading aerospace and defense companies. And in automotive, we're capturing new designs with Sky5 at BMW, Ford and other leading manufacturers. These wins demonstrate our market leadership, underpinned by a diverse and growing set of critical technologies, resolving increasingly complex architectures and preparing our customers for the performance gains demanded in 5 gs.
During the pandemic, we have witnessed a sharp inflection in the usage case of our core technology, enabling a variety of work from home applications, online learning and education, media and gaming, at home fitness, safe telemedicine and a sustainable shift to touchless commerce. Given this increased demand for high speed data consumption, networks are being taxed as never before. To illustrate how the pressure on the network is intensifying, on a typical day in just one second, there are 96,000 gigabytes of Internet traffic, 85,000 videos watched on YouTube, 84,000 Google searches and 5000 Skype calls. Now more than ever, always on connectivity is paramount, creating a compelling market opportunity for Skyworks proven solutions. Whether it's Zoom, Teams, FaceTime, telemedicine or touchless home delivery, at Skyworks, our commitment is to make these connections seamless and efficient.
Looking forward, we are not as our reach continues to expand across the IoT space, enabling a wide range of industries, applications and customers, all benefiting from the performance and utility of our solutions. In short, our unique technologies have never been more valuable, essential and critical with an expanding opportunity set emerging in ways that we have never imagined. With that, I will turn the call over to Chris for a discussion of Q3 and our Q4 outlook.
Thanks, Liam. Skyworks revenue for the 3rd fiscal quarter of 2020 was $737,000,000 which is 40 $7,000,000 higher than the midpoint of the guidance coming into Q3. Revenue was down 4% year over year. However, excluding YWAY related revenue in both Q3 of fiscal 2019 and fiscal 2020, revenue was up 2.5% year over year, despite the negative impact from COVID-nineteen. Gross profit in the 3rd quarter was $369,000,000 resulting in a gross margin of 50.1%.
Operating expenses were $139,000,000 up slightly year over year as we continue to prudently manage OpEx while making the necessary investments in research and development to accelerate future growth of our business. We generated $230,000,000 of operating income, translating into an operating margin of 31.3%. We had $2,300,000 of other expenses, mainly driven by ForEx losses, and our effective tax rate was 7.5%, driving net income of $211,000,000 or $1.25 of diluted earnings per share, which is $0.12 above the midpoint of the guidance. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow. 3rd fiscal quarter cash flow from operations was $259,000,000 Capital expenditures were $72,000,000 resulting in $187,000,000 of free cash flow.
On a trailing 12 month basis, our free cash flow margin is 32%. We paid $73,000,000 in dividends and repurchased approximately 670,000 shares of our common stock at an average price of $87.42 for a total of 59,000,000 dollars During the 1st 3 quarters of fiscal 2020, we have repurchased 4,600,000 shares. And during the last 12 months, we have returned 84% of the free cash flow back to the shareholders through a combination of dividends and share buybacks. We ended the 3rd fiscal quarter with cash and investments of $1,200,000,000 and we have no debt. Now let's move on to our outlook for Q4.
We expect double digit sequential revenue and earnings per share growth, driven by the strong demand for our market leading solutions. Specifically, we anticipate revenue to be between 830 €850,000,000 We expect gross margin in the range of 50% to 50.5% and operating expenses of approximately $142,500,000 Below the line, we anticipate roughly $1,000,000 in other income and a tax rate of 9.5%. We expect our diluted share count to further reduce to approximately 168,000,000 shares. Accordingly, at the midpoint of the revenue range, we expect to deliver diluted earnings per share of $1.51 Lastly, given our confidence in Scour strategic outlook and strong cash flow generation, we announced a 14% raise to our quarterly dividend to $0.50 per share. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Liam.
Thanks, Chris. With 5 gs gaining traction, we are now at the cusp of a multiyear upgrade cycle, one in which Skyworks is uniquely positioned to outperform. Our Sky5 platform provides tremendous flexibility to our customers, purpose built to be baseband agnostic, while powering the most innovative 5 gs handsets. In addition, these same 5 gs solutions are now expanding across industrial and automotive applications. And as complexity intensifies, we are aggressively adding to our enabling technologies with ongoing investments in both TC SAW and bulk acoustic wave filtering.
In fact, we just exceeded shipments of 150,000,000 BAW enabled modules and we see strong momentum for this technology in both mobile and broad markets. Our proven ability to advance key connectivity protocols, delivering higher speeds and lower latency across 3 gs, 4 gs and now 5 gs positions us well to capitalize on rapidly evolving market opportunities. Indeed, our mission of connecting everyone and everything all the time has never been more relevant. Finally, the strength of our balance sheet and cash generation capabilities allow us to accelerate the investments that fuel long term profitable growth while enabling Skyworks to deliver premium returns for our stockholders. That concludes our prepared remarks.
Let's open the line for questions.
And your first question comes from the line of Vivek Arya from Bank of Montreal America. Sorry, your line is open.
Thank you. Yes, Bank of America. Thanks for taking my question and congratulations, Liam and Chris, on the strong results and execution. Liam, I'm curious what drove the $50,000,000 or so upside in the quarter in the June quarter and what's driving the strength in September. I asked that because a few weeks ago, one of your competitors had mentioned the possibility of a delay in 1 of the flagship 5 gs phones.
So I was wondering if you were impacted by that or by any potential kind of supply related or trade tension related pull ins by any Chinese customers. So just give us a sense for what the upside kind of tells us about the true state of demand and your progress with customers?
Sure. Well, the upside came from a number of opportunities that we're able to execute upon, largely the launch the initial launch of 5 gs products much through China with some of our partners that we mentioned Samsung, Oppo, Vivo and others. We also had some nice penetration in our Wi Fi portfolio, our Wi Fi 6 launches. They were beneficial to us. But there was still a great opportunity in core mobile to grow.
We did have to combat some supply chain issues to be fair, but we started to improve through the quarter with acceleration through the last month of the quarter that's now propelling us into Q4. So we're very comfortable with where we are right now. I think the team did a good job, still navigating the COVID-nineteen headwinds for sure, but executing well through our factories and delivering what our customers need.
Got it. And for my follow-up, how should we think about then seasonality going in into December? Because I imagine that this year is perhaps more special because there are these big 5 gs ramps, but there is also all the disruptions because of COVID and then the macro headwinds because of COVID. So how should we think about your December quarter seasonality given all these puts and takes?
Sure, sure. Now obviously today we guided our Q4 quarter, but as we start to think about December based on the traction that we're working and the demand for this 5 gs technology, which is still just tremendous, we think that the December quarter should be strong for us and that will come across with a number of customers, but we have some really powerful design wins that we've created. We talk a lot about content reach here at Skyworks and I think you're going to see that when you look at some of the new launches that will happen at the end of the year. So we're very well positioned for it. As we've always talked about, complexity is our friend.
The technology bar is high. That's exactly what we want to see. And we'll be able
to demonstrate that through 5 gs handsets here in the
second half for sure.
Your
Your next question comes from the line of Toshiya Hari from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the strong results. I guess my first question is on broad markets. Chris, if you can help out by sort of sharing what percentage of revenue came from the broad markets business in the quarter? And I guess more importantly, Liam, you talked about a number of businesses within broad markets and kind of the design wins there.
But what were some of the key drivers in Q2? And
if you were
to highlight 1 or 2 perhaps, and what's the outlook into September in broad markets?
Yes. So broad markets revenue in the June quarter was approximately 31% of total revenue. As a result of that, broad markets was approximately flat on a sequential basis compared to the March quarter there. Looking forward into the September quarter, we do see an acceleration of the business there and we do expect in the September quarter our broad markets to be up double digits on a sequential basis.
Yes, Toshi. And just a little bit of color on customers and design wins. A lot of new customers brought under our umbrella here this last quarter, more design wins with names like Sonos, did some really good work with AT and T on gateways, design wins at Honeywell, infrastructure designs with Ericsson and Fujitsu. So a very broad reach of broad markets. And then also our audio portfolio is starting to gain some momentum here and we've got some great wins with Cognitive Audio in some of the gaming platforms.
So a pretty diverse portfolio in broad. There's a lot more we can do on the top line. We're going to be up strong in Q4 in broad markets and the customer roster continues to
grow. Got it. Thank you for that. And then a quick follow-up on BAW. You talked about exceeding the $150,000,000 mark recently.
I think a couple of months ago, you put out a press release on passing $100,000,000 So you're clearly seeing good momentum there. Curious, what are some of the key applications where you're seeing the ramps at your customers? And for context, I was hoping you could provide roughly what percentage of your business today is BAW? I imagine it's still pretty small at this point, but if you can kind of share how big or how small at this point BAW is, that would be helpful. Thank you.
Sure, sure. Well, the way that we look at our technologies, filters of any kind, whether it's TC SAW or Bulk Acoustic Wave, they're going to be enabling technologies that will go into a system solution like a Sky5. So we're addressing that right now. There were times where we were procuring that with 3rd parties or actually trying to develop solutions with a different technology node to try to compete with BAW. Now we have it in house.
Now we have it within our own factories. It gives us a great deal of flexibility. Certainly in the cellular world, our reach extends with bulk acoustic wave technologies. We've got design wins in ultra high band pads. We've got some design wins in other areas.
And again, it's 150,000,000 units is great, but there's so much more market share out there for us to go get. So it's early innings. I'm happy with the team's progress. We've invested in the technologies deliberately and carefully over the years to be ready for this. And I think the team is accelerating really well.
We got a lot of traction with customers, a lot of interest and that design win pipeline should fortify here over the next 6 to 12 months.
And your next question comes from the line of Craig Hettenbach from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Yes. Thank you. Liam, just a follow-up on that on BAW. Can you just talk about today kind of positioning within the receive pass versus transmit pass and maybe how that evolves for you kind of over time in the next few years?
Sure, Craig. Well, I mean, the application for BAW can be in many different segments. We can go UHP, we can go mid band, high band. We actually have BAW opportunities in our Wi Fi but when you start But when you start to look at 5 gs, you've also you're also dealing in 5 gs with a TDD, time division duplexing, which does create some unique opportunities for BAW and for our technology. So we'll see some growth there.
Technologies that have been in handsets and then new technologies that are 5 gs only, we can capture with BAW. And then we can also deploy the technology in other markets, like I said, Wi Fi and some other adjacent markets. So it's a great technology to have under our roof. As I said, we've been cultivating it for a long time. We understand the mechanisms.
We understand what filters belong in what frequencies and what spectrum. But you should expect more from us and we'll continue to update you.
Got it. Thanks. And then just as a follow-up, just since it's been a little while since you completed the Avnera acquisition in Broad Markets, would love to get an update on just how that's performing? What being part of Skyworks has helped in terms of perhaps your scale and reach and just any update there?
Sure, sure. Great question. Well, we had a really exciting, I'd say, 6 months here with Avnera and the acceleration of the technology has been incredible. We're seeing some great lift now in products like gaming headsets, high performance audio. We're moving into technologies now that have not only just audio itself, but really the voice synthesizing, right?
Thinking about voice as a interface is a very, very powerful thing. Looking at what we're dealing with the pandemic and touchless commerce and touchless transactions, some really good stuff. So having said all that, our momentum has accelerated. We don't have BU by BU. We basically don't report by segment on BUs, but we have a really strong portfolio in the AIS business, what we call AIS.
And this last quarter was the best quarter we've had so far. And we expect that to continue to grow over the next several quarters, but really good momentum there.
Your next question comes from the line of Blayne Curtis from Barclays. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Nice results. Leon, I'm curious, this latest restriction on Huawei does seem like SMTs and I think they're going to shift to emerging solution. I'm just kind of curious what you've seen either I think maybe update us.
I think Huawei is very small for you. Is there any opportunities, I guess, with them? And then as we look out, maybe the box could gain some share. Have you seen anything change in terms of positioning once that restriction happen?
Yes, Blaine, it's still an interesting dynamic. On one hand, the exposure that we have has really come down quite a bit. So as a result of the trade ban, our revenues with Huawei have come down, not at 0, but they have come down. We've been able to offset that with more position here, increasing position with the European players, the Nokias, the Ericsson's, even Fujitsu on infrastructure, most of the Huawei business for us on the infrastructure side. So it has been a headwind.
And but at the same time, we've been able to do quite well with other players in China, Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi. Again, we continue on the infrastructure side to diversify with Ericsson and Nokia. And I would say that the worst is behind us right now with respect to Huawei. They certainly were a large customer for us, but it's been slowly coming down. And we've been able to offset that with design wins in other markets in adjacent spaces.
So I think we've weathered that storm, but it had been it has been a bit of a headwind, but it's been
Got you. And then maybe just another question on Android. Just curious your perspective on the trajectory of the market. You mentioned 60% 5 gs. I think it's been coming at the expense of 4 gs.
I do think there's some mid range phones coming later in the year. I'm just kind of curious as you look to the back half of the year, your perspective on the overall handset market. Obviously, 5 gs content is good for you either way. I'm just kind of curious your perspective as to whether you see this market reaccelerating in the back half.
Yes. You're right. I mean, 5 gs is going to be an inflection for all segments. So obviously, at the highest end, we're going to have the most complex technology and the richest level of content. But if you think about it on a relative basis, many of the opportunities that we have in China and even at Samsung, the return on the content is significant.
So you could be looking at platforms that in a 4 gs world maybe offered $4 to $5 for us, in a 5 gs world it could be $8 to $10 or even $15 So on a relative basis, there's more of a pop up in some of the mid and lower end platforms and it may be in the larger ones. Now the larger ones, of course, can have more units and can be a little bit more dense, but we've done quite well with populating the China brands. We're doing much better at Samsung right now because we've set our sights on the high performing technologies, the 5 gs solutions and kind of really stepped a little bit away from 3 gs and 4 gs there and that's worked out great for us. It gives us a chance to really demonstrate the technology prowess that we bring. So we're going to have a nice combination in that area.
But I think now it's kind of meshing together. And one of the things that we do well as a supplier is just to create the right solution for the right customer. So a Sky5 engine for 1 customer may be very different than what we do with someone in China or somewhere in Korea.
Your next question comes from the line of Chris Caso from Raymond James. Your line is open.
Yes, thank you. Good evening. I wonder if you could give a little more granularity about what you're talking about with regard to Sky5 and where you're seeing traction on that. And given that, that Sky5 is a higher end product where you'd be competing more against Qualcomm modems where obviously they're trying to get their RF there. How that's helping you to compete against Qualcomm's own RF solution?
Yes, Chris. I think one of the things to remember and I know you've been following this for a long time is that the technology inflections have always been a challenge. 2 gs to 3 gs was years ago, but that was a challenge. 3 gs to 4 gs was much harder, but the leap from 4 gs to 5 gs is really significant. And I think anyone in this industry would agree with that.
And so one of the things that allowed us and positioned us to be ready and at the precipice of all this is that we've been working on these markets for years. This has been our bread and butter, Working in wireless technologies, cultivating and crafting the right enabling solutions, bringing in our own TC SAW, bringing in our bulk acoustic wave, leveraging our own gallium arsenide in Boston and LA, we're crafting this stuff. So when we go in, we call it Sky5, but that Sky5 could have 8 to 10 permutations depending upon the customer need, depending upon the baseband. So we want our products to be baseband agnostic. They can work with Qualcomm, they'll work with MediaTek, whoever.
And that's an important thread for us. So I think that's what makes us unique. And there's some great solutions out there, point solutions, but what we've been seeing is our customers want to pick the very, very best solutions and create their own architectures and really not just run off of a baseband reference design. So that's the way we see it. We understand the complexity in 5 gs.
It's more than just the product itself. It's the people engagement. It's the FAE engagement, ensuring that the know how that we have at Skyworks can transfer over to our customers and put them in position to win.
Thank you. For a follow-up, I guess the question on use of cash and Liam, how you're positioning the company over the next few years. And you're starting to see the fruits of the 5 gs cycle. It sounds like you guys are really confident in your ability to generate cash from that. How are you going to use that cash and sort of position the company beyond this cycle?
This historically runs a couple of years. And what are you thinking after this? What's the sort of longer term plan beyond this 5 gs cycle?
Yes. So first of all, I think we're very well positioned from a balance sheet point of view. We have $1,200,000,000 of cash, no debt. We will continue to generate a lot of cash despite the fact that we've made major investments advancing the technology. We will continue to invest in R and D, as you can see in our operating expense level.
We will continue to invest in our factories as well with our CapEx, which is running on or about 10% to revenue. Most of the cash that's being generated is being returned back to the shareholders, a combination of our dividend program. And we've just increased our dividend by 14% as well, of course, as continue to be active from our share buyback program. But yes, we are continuing to make major investments, advancing the technology on all the levels in our power amplifiers, our filter business, TCSOL and more and more so BAW as well as driving those complex integrated solutions.
Your next question comes from the line of Timothy Arcuri from UBS. Your line is open.
Thanks for the question. This is Seth on for Tim. I was wondering if you could give us a little bit more color on the gross margin, seems to have come in a bit lighter than we would have expected at these revenue levels, if there's anything additional to call out there.
Yes. First of all, I'm pleased with the gross margin performance in the June quarter. We did 50.1%. We guided on or about 50%. So we beat that just by 10 basis points.
And so we just guided September to be up sequentially into the 50% to 50.5 range, so making some good traction at improving the gross margins. Part of that is, of course, driven by a richer mix with more 5 gs products into our overall mix. There is a little bit of a headwind as a result of COVID-nineteen. There is some disruption in the supply chain, logistic costs as well as in our own factories. But I we'll continue to work that, and I assume that over time, that headwind will go away as well.
And then we will continue as we grow the top line, as we continue to execute on our cost reduction actions, as we see more and more 5 gs as the overall mix, we will continue to make further improvements on the gross margin towards our target of 53%.
Thanks. And just as a follow-up, I was wondering, you gave us some good color on China, excuse me, China smartphones. I was just wondering if you could give us maybe a little more color on how the revenue kind of trended in June, percent of revenue or any other details and kind of what the demand looks like specifically from China going forward? Thank you.
Yes. So China overall China revenue is approximately 23% of total revenue. Mostly of that is Opovivo, Xiaomi. There's very little Huawei left and then, of course, some other smaller Chinese customers. As Liam indicated before, 5 gs is really kicking off in China.
And so we have great relationship with those customers. There is a big step up in content in those 5 gs phones compared to the 4 gs phones. And as a result of that, our revenues with the Chinese players is up on a year over year basis and is expected to further accelerate strongly into the September quarter.
Your next question comes from the line of Edward Snyder from Charter Equity Research. Your line is open.
Thanks a lot. Liam, 150,000,000 BAW enabled modules, which is a very good, the BAW in those modules, is that all manufactured by Skyworks? Or do you still source from other suppliers as it makes sense for your manufacturing plan? And given your discussions of 5 gs, it sounds like a lot of that would be coexist and receive side filters, which is right up your power alley. Have you started shipping production shipments yet or bought duplexers?
And then I have a follow-up,
please. Sure. Well, the good news is that it is all organic under our roof now. So we've been working on this for quite a while. Team's been doing a great job.
We've got some great technologists working not only in the labs, but also in the factories to get this right. So that technology is still early innings, 150,000,000 units is great, but you and I both know that these are there's a 1,000,000,000 units out there to be captured. So we're got a long way to go, but the technology looks good right now and it's been endorsed by some really important customers. So that's good. And the second part of your question is also true.
So we're leveraging not only BAW on the transmit side, but the diversity So we're really looking forward to executing there. And we've So we're really looking forward to executing there. And we've got some great traction now and we're going to be seeking out more customers as we move forward.
But most of that is on the receive side giving you strength in DRX, right?
Yes, it is today, but I think we're going to broaden that reach and start to also look at the TX chain, Ed. And I think we have some design wins with customers there too. But the lion's share of the print today has been on the DRX side, but we certainly can take that technology and drive it in the transmit chain. We've got customers that want us there as well. And with our Sky5 solution, we can create some really unique, highly performing engines that make it very simple for our customer to use in a 5 gs spectrum.
So it's going to be a really important technology for us. And as I said, early indications are strong.
But isn't it the case that the transmits coming to you rather than you going to transmit given what's going on in 5 gs, especially with China Mobile and the dual connectivity transmit starting to show up in the DRX section, which should actually make it much easier for you guys to address kind of a BAW duplex without trying to go head to head with Avago or Qorvo. Yes.
No, no, you're right. That's correct. That is correct. So that's going to create another door for us to drive technology as well. Yes, with some of the partitioning that we see in those 5 gs solutions, there is some unique opportunities that are opening up as well.
Your next question comes from the line of Gary Mobley from Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. At the risk of being accused of asking you guys a softball question, I want to ask about your relative performance on the mobile unit versus the market. So if my math serves me correct, you drove 2% year over year growth in the first half of the calendar year 2020 and that's against walk us through how you've been able to manage walk us through how you've been able to manage so well against the tough market and in particular with respect to share gains and content growth?
Sure. That's a great question. So I'll try to go high level and maybe get a little more details as we go through it. So I think the underpinning catalyst for growth here is the 5 gs inflection. And it's really that's the genesis of this.
So what you get there is, if you look back 2018 early 2019, everybody's phone was either 2 gs, 3 gs or 4 gs. 5 gs just didn't exist. The technologies will be readied. They were almost to market, but they hadn't yet launched. So the initial stages of 5 gs launch now are starting to show up.
They showed up in our Q3 and they're going to show up strong in Q4. And so with that, we have known content, customizable stuff that we created specifically for 5 gs that will start laying in to these platforms. And the 5 gs additive is incremental to what you already have. So you already have a 4 gs phone that has whatever the content you want to call it $8 or $9 in print, maybe $15 and then you add 5 gs as an incremental engine on top of the 4 gs engine. So that's really important.
So it's you're going to have a device now in 5 gs that still carries 3 gs, carries 4 gs and then carries the incremental high complexity, high performing 5 gs engine. So that's a big deal. And we are still very early in this cycle. This is very early. Some of the most compelling platforms have not yet launched and we know that they will.
So we have a lot to look forward there. So that's one of the most important things. When we think about how that growth profile looks, we cited a few stats that said, look, over the next 5 years, we could have 3,000,000,000 subscribers carrying 5 gs technology. Today, that number is really low. It's in a couple of 100,000,000 units.
So there's really much to do in capturing the opportunity in 5 gs. In addition to the handsets, there's great usage cases now in IoT and some of the other markets that we've seen. The work from home markets are showing a need for much faster technology that could be delivered with 5 gs or Wi Fi 6. So some really interesting themes that are coming together right now at this time that can propel our business significantly. Okay.
Appreciate that. As my follow-up question, I wanted to ask about the emergence of the mid tier price point in China. So China has been great in the first half of the year, perhaps driving 250,000,000 5 gs units in 2020 globally. But I'm curious to know your relative positioning as the mid tier portion of the 5 gs market in China opens up and how that compares to where you're positioned at the same sort of price tier in 4 gs?
Yes. I mean, so we have had a very good reputation and position with the players in China, the Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi names for the most part. They've done very well and had a great partnership. We've been able to leverage our 4 gs solutions extremely well. And when we get into 5 gs, one of the things that really is unique for Skyworks is that the breadth of our technology and the knowledge base that our team has in developing these solutions, we become a really good partner for the China brands to launch these technologies.
5 gs is very difficult. I said it already, but having a partnership with Skyworks, not just on the hardware, but actually on the FAE side, the people side to get these products to market and get them to launch. We've been great at that and it's allowed us to really line up and be very close to the names that matter. So we think there's a great opportunity in China. It's already happening now, but there's still as I said, if you look at total units globally and where units could be in 5 years, there's a huge upside.
Your next question comes from the line of Craig Ellis from B. Riley FBR. Your line is open.
Yes, thanks for taking the question and nice job on the execution guys. Liam, I wanted to go back and just understand the BAW module business a little bit better. So it looks like shipments were up about 50% in the last quarter, were at $150,000,000 But from the press release, it looks like you're shipping BAW modules in both integrated mobile and broad market. So can you give us some sense for how that splits out now? And is your ramp BAW module significantly over the next 4 to 6 quarters?
How does that split play out? We've got the huge units in integrated mobile, but ultimately IoT units in broad markets will look even bigger. So how do you see that playing out intermediate to long term?
Yes, yes. No, that's a good question. So right now for the most part, we're probably 80% 5 gs mobile with our bulk acoustic wave solutions. And again, those solutions are integrated in Sky5. We are seeing a growing opportunity in technologies like Wi Fi where using filtering within our integrated Wi Fi solution creates a great technical performance.
So that's an opportunity. But I will say that if you think about the number of units that we produce, just as a statistic that we've said before, we manufacture about 8,000,000,000 TC SAW filters a year, about 8,000,000,000. And our BAW modules, we're doing great. We did $150,000,000 There could be more than 2 filters in the device potentially. But the difference between where we are in technologies like TC SAW and where we are in BAW, it's incredible the opportunity that we're going to have.
We're still crafting the technology. We're happy with what we've done so far, but there's just so much more to go. So there's going to be a clear line of sight in mobile because the mobile device print today has bAW, right? And if there are sockets that are there right now that we could address. As we move into IoT in some of the broad markets, it will be a kind of a teachable performance for us.
We're going to basically try to power some of these solutions that maybe weren't wireless before. Maybe they were wired. We try to create technologies that will unwire them. Maybe we do more in WiFi, leveraging bulk acoustic waves. So there's going to be much more individual market specific solutions that will go to the IoT space.
But then back in mobile, which we know so well and we're under the hood with every customer, those opportunities we can see directly today and it's on us to go out and capture it. It.
That's really helpful. Then the follow-up question is related to both the near term that you're seeing and then longer term. So clearly, the business is growing very robustly right now, and you've got very strong guidance for the September quarter, and you're seeing very good trends seasonally in the December quarter. The question is this, as we look at the longer term performance of the business before industry ran into trade and entity list and COVID buzz saws, yours was a business that could do $1,000,000,000 plus per quarter. As you look at your pipeline and your design wins that at this point should be extending well into next year, do you feel like you're starting to get the visibility for when the business can get back to that $1,000,000,000 a quarter level?
Or is that really going to come to you as you work through things in the first half of next year? Thanks, Liam.
Yes. No, that's a great point. And we were there, right? We know how to play at the $1,000,000,000 a quarter level. And certainly, the opportunity in front of us, I think, is actually much more favorable and conducive to what we do now than it was 3 years ago.
And I say it because these technologies that we've been talking about are really difficult. 5 gs is hard to do, really hard to do. And you have to have great people with experience, but you also have the technology you have to have the technologies. It's not a fabulous play. You've got to craft the stuff.
So I think the fact that we're going into an inflection that requires daunting technological performance from your factory to your FAEs right to the customer's installation. That's going to play well for us. That's going to play well. And we wouldn't be where we are if we didn't put the 20 years of work into this technology, years years of work. And now that work is starting to really flow in the right direction for us.
So we're looking forward to that. And I think over time that the revenue is going to take care of itself. If we just continue to knock off the design wins, we know the content has been increasing. And the other thing is, I talked about it in the prepared remarks, the usage cases around connectivity right now are really important. And I don't think this is going to go away when we hopefully clear this pandemic.
I think there's going to be some lasting behavior around connectivity and wireless performance and it's going to be used by the masses. So we really that's something that we weren't thinking about a year or 2 ago, but we're starting to see that now as a new theme around our portfolio and it's something that could be quite positive for Skyworks.
Our last question comes from the line of Karl Ackerman from Cowen. Your line is open.
Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. I appreciate you letting me ask a question. I wanted to focus first on just kind of the near term. What sort of visibility do you have into orders for the second half? I asked because while production plans seem extremely strong, I think there's some investor consternation that improving production plans may fall on weaker consumer demand over the next several quarters in the context of just the challenges we've been seeing with COVID-nineteen.
So I guess how do you handicap that in the context of your inventory depletion and gross margin expectations over the next several quarters?
Yes. So we have very good visibility into demand right now and we don't take that lightly at all. I mean, we understand the volatility that we've all seen with the COVID situation and we continue to see it. But we have a very strong backlog position right now with some core technologies. We have to go ahead and execute all that.
But it is looking at where we are now and looking at other periods of time, we're in very good position to execute through the second half of the year. I'll let Chris talk a little bit more about the inventory situation.
I feel very comfortable where the inventory level is right now, given that we just guided a very strong sequential growth into September and we are and we expect further strong sequential growth into the December quarter. We have been level loading our factories in order to drive maximum usage of our capital equipment and in trying to minimize our capital expenditures. And so most of the inventory that we have is based on backlog and firm orders that we have on the books. So there is very little risk for E and O. And so I feel really good about where we are from an inventory point of view and being able to serve our customers as the business continue to grow in September December.
Great. And for my follow-up, if I may. You are baseband agnostic, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the growing opportunity content opportunity at MediaTek that would seem to be a healthy driver for you targeting low to mid tier 5 gs handsets over the next year or 2? Thank you.
Yes, absolutely. I agree. MediaTek is one of the key players for us in the baseband agnostic world. We're doing a lot of good work there. We've got great performance on a number of their new platforms.
And as you know, they're a great feeder system into China and even other emerging markets. So we've got some of our platforms are
$6 to $8 in MediaTek
right now that are growing. We've done a great job with them in 4 gs and we're now helping them in 5 gs. We've got not only do we have transmit chain, but we have some really good DRX, receive side technology that we talked about on a different question. And their volumes are starting to pick up in 5 gs. So MediaTek, they've been around for a while, but they're starting to really emerge again as a leader in the emerging markets and in China landscape.
So they're supporting a lot of the names that we talked about Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi. Very often you have that MediaTek base band inside those solutions and we have a great alignment with the MediaTek baseband as well. So they've been a great partner for us and we see momentum on their end.
Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's question and answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to Mr. Griffin for any closing remarks.
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