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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Feb 7, 2019

Speaker 1

Good afternoon. My name is Cheryl, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Teradata Q4 2018 Earnings Conference Call. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer Thank you. Mr.

Greg Swearingen, VP of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon. Welcome to Teradata's 2018 fourth quarter year end earnings call. Vic Lund, Teradata's new Chairman, will begin our call today. Followed by Oliver Ratzesberger, our new President and Chief Executive Officer then Mark Culhane, CFO will discuss our financial results and provider guidance for 2019. Our discussion today includes forecasts and other information that are considered forward looking statements.

These statements reflect our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risk factors are described in Teradata's 10 K, 10 Q, and other filings with the SEC. On today's call, we will be discussing certain non GAAP financial information, which excludes such items as stock based compensation expense and other special items described in our earnings release including acquisition, reorganization, transformation related costs, asset impairments, and capitalized software development costs. We will also discuss other non GAAP items such as free cash flow and constant currency revenue comparisons. A reconciliation of our GAAP results to our non GAAP results and other information concerning these measures is included in our earnings release and on the investor page of teradata.com.

A replay of this conference call will be available later today on our website. Teradata assumes no obligation to update or revise the information provided during this conference call, whether as a result of new information or future results. And now I will turn the call over to Vic.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Greg. I would like to add my welcome. Almost 3 years ago, I was given the honor of becoming president and CEO of Teradata. In my initial calls, I laid out my goals. 1st, in conjunction with the Teradata team to develop a customer centric strategy that would drive our which would include the next CEO of Teradata.

The announcement of Oliver as CEO and our strong fourth quarter results are an endorsement that these objectives have been met. It is now time for a new leader to drive our ongoing success. Oliver is the right person at the right time. He has an understanding of what makes us special. A seasoned view of our customers' needs, the confidence of our board and our team, and the pragmatic intelligence seasoned by experience to continue to drive our business forward.

While there is still much to be accomplished, My confidence in our strategy and our team has never been stronger. Oliver?

Speaker 4

Good afternoon, everyone. I would like to start by thanking Vic as he transitions to his new role as Executive Chairman of our Board. Is leadership and guidance have been invaluable, not only to the company, but for me personally as well. I'm extremely proud of what Vik and I have accomplished together, including the winning strategy that defines the tearing up of today. This is an exciting time in our history.

The world of data analytics has never been a strategically important and Teradata is uniquely positioned to deliver value to the world's leading companies. I'm pleased to share that our strategy Our execution and our relentless dedication to customer success has resulted once again in excellent performance in Q4 2018 overall. We exceeded guidance on all important measures. ARR growth, recurring revenue growth, total revenue, EPS, and free cash flow. We are seeing accelerating growth rates across all these measures, and this is visible in our financial results.

Our customers continued to transition to subscription faster than we had anticipated. In fact, 79% of our bookings 2018 were subscription based, peaking at 87% for Q4. These results are evidence of our solid foundation of future recurring revenue. Mark will cover these financials in more detail. Now I'd like to highlight some of our 2018 achievements.

We refined our strategy shifted to a subscription based model and significantly enhanced our offerings. We introduced our game changing analytics platform, teradata Vantage to broad acclaim and record adoption. We optimized and aligned our go to market approach around our targeted customer set. Having the entire organization tightly aligned to our strategy is helping us be more effective with our largest analytic opportunities and is helping us gain efficiencies that will drive greater profitability. We repositioned and revitalized our brands to better reflect our strategy, our offerings, and the customers we serve.

And We transitioned and moved our headquarters to San Diego, successfully consolidating our corporate functions into fewer locations, while delivering these positive results. Next, let me address our strategy that we shared with you at our recent Analyst Day. There we described how we are applying our differentiated capabilities to address the needs of the world's most demanding large scale users of data that require massive scale and speed. We call these megadata companies. Teradata is uniquely positioned to enable these complex and sophisticated companies to deliver pervasive data intelligence in order to leverage all of and at the scale they require.

We also defined our 5 strategic imperatives that are enabling us to win. First, we are relentlessly focused on driving consumption of Teradata. This in turn drives ARR and recurring revenue growth. Our second strategic imperative is to radically simplify. This is about improving the customer experience and making it much easier to consume our software, regardless of the deployment or purchase option they desire.

We believe that this will The third imperative is to pivot to as a service, making it easy for customers to purchase, provision, upgrade, and leverage our software to accelerate time to value. Our next imperative is the continued transformation of our go to market and our brand. Repositioning Teradata with our customers. We are challenging the Stamps quo and raising expectations for what data analytics can mean to the success of our customers. And finally, we will deliver operational excellence improving the efficiency and execution across the organization.

Now let's move to our flagship analytic platform Teradata Vantage. In Q4, we took another bold step with the launch of Vantage. The industry's first and most powerful platform for complex enterprise scale analytics. Vantage is achieving record adoption with our customers and winning against the competition. I will share some examples that demonstrate how our customers are leveraging Teradata to conquer the challenges they face in this increasingly digital world We launched Vantage to a market that immediately showed an unprecedented level of interest.

In fact, Vantage was so well received that it holds the record for the fastest customer adoption of any release in Teradata's history. Vantage is the only platform that allows customers to work with the tools and languages they prefer in order to quickly build and use the analytics they need. Message tightly integrates the best analytic engines and functions and is fully extensible to meet the needs of our megadata companies. These include descriptive, predictive, and prescriptive analytics, machine learning, and autonomous decision making. And all deployed across public clouds, on premises, on optimized for commodity infrastructure or as a service.

Our customers are realizing the benefit advantage. So allow me to share a few examples. The global technology powerhouse is undertaking a comprehensive evolution of its analytic enterprise and is creating a modernized interconnected hybrid ecosystem, Advantage as its foundation. A major telecommunications provider in Switzerland is developing its analytic environment of the future on Teradata, driving increased consumption of our software. This increased investment was based on the recognition of the expertise of our people to help them drive improved analytics, and the capabilities of Teradata Vantage.

A global aviation manufacturer added new Vantage capabilities to enable multiple analytical use cases, integrating ERP, IoT, and sensor data assets. This has created the foundation for growth of its services business, improved manufacturing quality and supply chain optimization. Our solution also provides executive leadership with access to answers based on data to make strategic decisions across all aircraft programs. A large U. S.

Consumer packaged goods company deployed a hybrid ecosystem based on Teradata to connect its on premises and Azure cloud instances. This new architecture allows users to efficiently and effectively access the right data through a unified user experience. A major global telco partnered with us to keep its subscribers in potentially life saving contact during the recent wildfires in California using geospatial boundaries building Teradata Vantage subscribers in the affected area were identified, then provided with unlimited data and high speed access to sell towers in the region. These form how businesses work and people live through the power of data. And all examples are among the more than 100 customers who are adopting Vantage and are driving ARR growth Teradata wins because we focus on the enterprise scalable features that our megadata customers demand.

Vantage unlocks all limitations from handling thousands of users, integrating data from across functions, and driving millions of decisions across the business. The scale and complexity of our customers' workloads far exceeds human capability. Building on the hallmarks of Teradata's World class Optimizer and best in class workload manager we are further enhancing our advanced capabilities with embedded algorithms and machine automation. Together, they simplify and derisk investment decisions, supporting our customers to accelerate time to value reducing operational complexities and associated costs. Looking ahead to 2019, we have a winning strategy.

Our focus is clear, we have fantastic opportunities and are well positioned to continue our successful path. I'm extremely confident about As president and CEO and committed to focus on the work we have started, evolve it and continue to grow the company and create long term value for our customers and shareholders. And above all, we have outstanding people we will continue to develop our culture and values, encourage innovation, and enabling our associates to do the best work of their lives. As I turn the call to Mark, a sincere thank you to the Teradata team as they show every day what it means to rise above and challenge the industry by keeping our customers at the center of all we do. This team is executing our winning strategy, and I'm very proud of the work they do every day.

Now, Bart will discuss our financial results.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Oliver, and good afternoon, everyone. We delivered a strong quarter in Q4 and close to our year. Which sets us up well for good momentum as we enter 2019. Our 4th quarter performance was highlighted not only by our better than expected total revenue and EPS, but even more importantly, by our strong ARR and recurring revenue growth as well as better than expected free cash flow generation. Our strategy is clearly working and is now being reflected in our financial results.

In Q4, 87% of our bookings were subscription based, which resulted in 79% for the full year. This exceeded our most recent guidance range of 65 to 70% and significantly beat our original guidance of 40 to 50% when we began 2018. Even with more transactions shifting to subscription than expected, which is good for the future of Teradata, but reduces the amount of revenue recognized in the current period. Total revenue in Q4 was 5 $88,000,000, meaningfully above our guidance range of $555,000,000 to 575,000,000. This was driven by recurring revenue growth ahead of our expectations from strong customer subscription demand for our for Teradata's software.

Full year total revenue was 2,164,000,000 higher than our 2,130,000,000 to 2,150,000,000 guidance range, as well as higher than 2017 full year revenue of $2156,000,000. Recurring revenue, which includes revenue from subscription based transactions as well as maintenance and software upgrade rates relating to perpetual licenses, was $328,000,000 in Q4, a year over increase of 10%, thirteen percent increase in constant currency, and well ahead of our expectations for the quarter because of better than expected bookings linearity contributing to recurring revenue recognition within the quarter. Full year recurring revenue was 1,254,000,000 a 10% increase from 2017 on both a reported and constant currency basis. Both of which exceeded our guidance. Perpetual software license and hardware revenue.

Which is revenue from on premise perpetual transactions was $97,000,000, a year over year decrease of 39%. As I discussed at our Analyst Day in December, we expect to eventually stop selling on a perpetual basis. And therefore, we expect perpetual revenue to continue to decline year over year. As we go through our transition, Most customers are purchasing software on a subscription basis, but some customers continue to purchase their hardware upfront. Therefore, our perpetual revenue is now predominantly hardware related.

Full year perpetual revenue declined 21%. To $340,000,000. And consulting revenue, which was $163,000,000 in Q4 decreased 4% from Q4 2017, but was flat in constant currency. Full year consulting revenue was 570,000,000 down 2% from 2017 as reported and in constant currency. As a reminder, we are shifting our strategy relating to our consulting business to focus on megadata companies.

And within that target market, to prioritize higher value, higher margin business related consulting, which is intended to increase consumption of Teradata Vantage. Our software based analytics platform. As a result, we expect our overall consulting revenue to decline as we realign and refocus our consulting resources. We expect a meaningful reduction in consulting revenue as well as some short term impact on our consulting margins. However, because of this shift, we expect improved consulting margins longer term.

ARR grew 68000000 $72,000,000 in constant currency in the 4th quarter. At the end of 2018, ARR was 1 $308,000,000, a 10% increase, 12% in constant currency from the prior year. At our Analyst Day in December, I said that we expected subscription based ARR to be more than 400,000,000 and up over 100% year over year at the end of 2018. I'm happy to report that as of the end of 2018, subscription based ARR was $493,000,000 and up more than 130% year over year. The remainder of our ARR is comprised of $716,000,000 of perpetual license maintenance and software upgrade rights and $99,000,000 of subscription based managed services.

We intend to only provide this ARR breakdown on an annual basis given the large transaction nature of our business as we believe quarterly comparisons are not meaningful As our business continues to shift more to subscription based transactions, we see our subscription related ARR growing at an attractive rate. While ARR related to maintenance and software upgrade rates from our legacy perpetual business, likely declining from the shift to subscription. For 2018 on a net basis, we generated approximately $125,000,000 in incremental ARR, which was almost $150,000,000 in constant currency. Our backlog at the end of the year was approximately $2,500,000,000, an increase of 34% from the end of the 3rd quarter and 51% from year end 2017. Before I continue to highlight our Q4 operating results, Please note, unless stated otherwise, my comments today reflect Teradata's results on a non GAAP basis.

Which excludes items such as stock based compensation expense and other special items identified in our earnings release. In terms of gross margin, recurring revenue gross margin was 71.6% versus 74.9 percent in Q4 2017 and in line with our expectations. As expected, our current recurring revenue mix includes more subscription based revenue versus legacy perpetual maintenance and software upgrade rights revenue as compared to the prior year. As a result, this revenue mix shift drove the year over year recurring revenue gross margin decline. Full year recurring revenue gross margin was 72.8 percent better than expected, but lower versus the prior year due to the shift to the subscription based transactions.

Perpetual revenue gross margin was 44.3 percent, which compared to 40 perpetual revenue being primarily hardware related versus the prior year period as many customers began purchasing their software via subscription. Full year perpetual gross margin was 41.2 percent, which was lower than the prior year, but as expected due to the shift in the subscription based transaction. And gross margin of our consulting revenue improved to 17.2% compared to 13.6 in q417. While consulting margin in the 4th quarter improved over 2017, it fell short of our expectations. Full year consulting margin was 7.4% versus 4.6% in 2017.

We expect consulting margins to continue to improve going forward as we continue to align our consulting resources to our strategy. Overall gross margin was 52% in the 4th quarter, which was roughly flat compared to the prior year period. Full year gross margin was 50.6 percent, down 1 percentage point, largely due to the timing of revenue recognition and the corresponding revenue mix changes from the shift to subscription based transactions. Turning to operating expenses. Selling, general and administrative expense was $160,000,000 in Q4, decreasing $2,000,000 or 1%.

From the fourth quarter of 2017. Full year SG and A was 595000000, up 2%. Research and development expense was $72,000,000 versus $70,000,000 in the fourth quarter of 2017. Full year R and D expense was $290,000,000, up 5% as we continue to invest in Teradata Village, our software based analytics platform. Operating margin was 12.6% versus 14.9% in Q4 2007 18.

Full year operating margin was 9.7%, down from 11.7%. The year over year decline was largely due to the impact Caradata non GAAP tax rate of 17.1 percent for the 4th quarter was lower than the 19.1% rate in for 2017, but in line with our expectations. Full year non GAAP tax rate was 19.6%, in line with our expectations at the beginning of 2018 of about 20%. As a result, EPS in the fourth quarter was $0.49, which was higher than our guidance range of $0.41 to $0.45. The upside in EPS was driven by the higher than expected recurring revenue.

Full year EPS was a dollar 29 again, higher than our guidance range of a dollar 22 to a dollar 26. Turning to cash flow, Net cash provided by operating activities was $107,000,000 in Q4 2018. Compared to $23,000,000 in fourth quarter 2017. Full year net cash provided by operating activities was $364,000,000 for 2018 as compared to $324,000,000 in 2017. Cash used for capital expenditures in additions to capitalized software development costs was $63,000,000 in Q4.

An increase from $21,000,000 in Q4 2017. The increase in CapEx was as expected and driven by capital improvements to our San Diego headquarters and the increased mix of transactions moving to subscription. Full year cashews capital expenditures in addition to capitalized software development costs was $160,000,000 compared to $87,000,000 in the prior year. As a result, free cash flow for the 4th quarter was 44,000,000 and full year free cash flow was 204,000,000 which exceeded our guidance range of 175000000 to 200000000. As of December 31, 2018, Cash was $715,000,000.

During the fourth quarter, we bought approximately 2,600,000 shares of Teradata stock, for 94,000,000. For the full year, we bought 7,900,000 shares for 300,000,000. At the end of 2018, we had $253,000,000 of remaining share repurchase authorization. During 2018, we completed the repatriation of $800,000,000 of foreign earnings that we planned at the beginning of the year. Deferred revenue at year end increased $109,000,000 from the end of the 3rd quarter and increased $96,000,000 from the end of 2017.

Both increases were due to the strong growth which is dependent on many variables, including the mix and timing of bookings, and currency fluctuations among other factors. Regarding currency, we expect a 1 percentage point headwind on our full year year over year revenue comparisons with a 3 to 4 point headwind for the first quarter. We expect our full year bookings mix related to subscription based transactions to be approximately 70% or higher. In terms of ARR, we expect ARR to grow approximately 11 to 12% in 2019. We expect recurring revenue to increase approximately 11% in 2019.

And in the first quarter, we expect recurring revenue between $332,000,000 335,000,000. We expect perpetual revenue to continue to decline approximately 150,000,000 to 200,000,000 in 2019 over the prior year. And additionally, we expect consulting revenue to decline in 2019 approximately 15% to 20% as we realign and focus our consulting resources on high value, higher margin consulting engagements in our megadata target market. Recurring revenue gross margin in 2019 is expected to be in the low seventies. But longer term, we expect our recurring revenue gross margin to improve as we continue to gain efficiencies and leverage our cloud and subscription related investments.

We expect perpetual gross margins to be approximately 35 to 40 percent for 2019. We expect consulting gross margins in the low teens for 2019. Thus, in total, we expect overall gross margin to improve 3 to 4 points from 2018 levels. And we expect operating margin to improve a couple points over the prior year. Our non GAAP tax rate is anticipated to be 20% again in 2019.

As a result, non GAAP EPS is expected to be a dollar 45 to a dollar 55 for the year. This is based on full year weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 119,000,000. And for the first quarter, non GAAP EPS is expected to be in the 18 to 20¢ range based on a 25% non GAAP tax rate. The same as Q1 twenty eighteen and 119,000,000 weighted average shares outstanding. We expect 2019 free cash flow.

After adjusting for cash impacts, related to reorganizing restructuring our operations and our go to market functions as we align to our strategy. To be in the range of $200,000,000 to $250,000,000. Our projection of free cash flow is subject to many variables including but not limited to subscriptions bookings mix, the amount of capital expenditures required to support new subscription transactions, as well as the billing frequency of such new subscription transactions and the ultimate cash payments related to reorganizing our operations. As I close, I want to thank Vic for his vision and leadership in driving the development and execution of our strategy over the last few years. I have really valued his advice and counsel during my time here at Teradata, and I look forward to continue working with Oliver to successfully execute our strategy.

And with that, operator,

Speaker 1

Our first question comes from Brad Reback from Stifel. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Very much. Mark, real quick, on the guidance for subscription being at about 70% for 2019, obviously, you did something well north of that in 2018 and you're guiding perpetual down meaningfully. Can you give us some of the puts and takes going into that guide? Thanks.

Speaker 5

Yeah. So, are you talking about bookings mix or margin?

Speaker 6

Bookings mix.

Speaker 5

Yeah. Bookings where we said 70% or higher.

Speaker 6

Right.

Speaker 5

So, we could certainly see it higher, but right now, we're, you know, looking at that 70% plus range. So the puts and takes there are we clearly see perpetual revenue continuing to decline the magnitude of which could be a 150 to 200,000,000. And then, obviously, depending on where that falls, you know, impacts where the bookings mix ultimately be, and it can move it as we saw across 18 on different quarters, etcetera. So but we're, extremely pleased with what we're seeing in the transformation to move to the subscription model. And, obviously, you know, it's a different set of our existing customers that we're focused on this year that are coming back to acquire more stuff from us that that weren't part of the 18 cohort, if you will.

Speaker 6

Got it. And then, Oliver, maybe a quick follow-up. I believe at the beginning of this calendar year, you changed the Salesforce comp plan maybe some high level highlights on how that's been received? Thanks.

Speaker 4

Yes, Brad, thanks for the question. Indeed, and I think we said that at the Analyst Day already, we changed this year to focus what the entire company, not just go to market, to ARR as the primary metric, and, we did the same with the go to market realignment that we drove specifically focused to ARR. The reception in the field and with our go to market organization has actually been very positive And we believe that that increased focus on ARR will drive increased consumption, increased ARR results for 2019.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Katy Huberty from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is

Speaker 7

Thank you. Good afternoon. Obviously a strong end to the year and the feedback in the market is that there's quite a healthy budget flush in the fourth quarter, but there's obviously questions around how 2019 is starting as it relates to the pipeline building and what may be a slower growth here. So just curious any high level comments as it relates to what your I think you mentioned backlog, but what your deal pipeline looks like for this year? And if there's been any change in the rate of the business as you move into January early February?

Then I have a follow-up.

Speaker 4

Katie, this is Oliver. No change in the business. If anything, we are seeing a very good and healthy funnel. We are seeing that the business, the adoption of Vantage is driving actually increased activity in our customer base. And, for 2019, that makes us very positive for our continued execution on the strategy, especially with the help of Vantage being the enterprise platform.

Speaker 7

Okay. That's great to hear. Maybe question for Mark. The 1st quarter EPS is a little bit lower than we were expecting even though the recurring revenue is in line. Just is there anything as it relates to mix of hardware or costs that flow through in the first quarter that we should be thinking about?

Speaker 5

No. I mean, it's always traditionally been our lowest quarter from an EPS perspective of the 4, you know, at the high end of the range, you know, we'd be over last year. We're going through some of our go to market realignments. That we've executed on and rolled out in the month of January. So that has some, some of an impact, but you know, we feel, on a full year basis, we feel really good about where we're, where we're headed from an EPS perspective.

So I don't think there's a specific call out to where Q1

Speaker 1

from Cowen and Company. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Great, thanks. I guess first question for Oliver. Clearly, you're acting more aggressive on the getting out of consulting areas. Based on your guidance, can you give us a sense as to how much is exiting non strategic areas and how much is an effort to push Teradata related engagements to SI partners and maybe for the latter, give us some color as to what kind of new engagements you're getting from

Speaker 4

So, Derek, the we don't break out the professional services business in terms of what parts we do for what type. In general, what you see us do is really focusing in the line not just go to market, but consulting directly to the strategy that we, laid out at the Analyst Day. And yes, the focus is on the early advantage. And we have more focus on Teradata Vantage than ever before. And that is what's driving the adoption this is what our megadata customers are asking for and what is helping us be successful in that, in that line of business At this point in time, we're not ready to talk about SI partners or what what we are doing with them, but overall, this is this is this is a direct alignment of the consulting business to the strategy.

And it's what we believe will drive the most adoption of Vantage and increase in ARR for 2019.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then Mark, I was impressed by the strength in short term deferred revenue this quarter. It was a big acceleration. Can you help us bridge the 18% growth in short term preferred revenue and the 10 percent growth in recurring revenue. Should we expect deferred revs growth to come down and converge more to recurring or why would that be growing faster?

Speaker 5

Hey, hey, Derek. This is Mark. So, obviously, we had a very robust q4 ARR growth quarter. That's obviously showing up in short term deferred revenue. That we guided from a recurring revenue growth perspective in for 19 of 11%.

So part of it is the seasonality here you'll see deferred revenue typically peaks at the end of March, the end of q 1, and then due to all of the historical perpetual license maintenance and upgrade right renewals, which are Q4 related, but it'll get billed in January and go on to deferred revenue balance and then work off as revenue gets recognized, which is why you see across the year deferred revenue, potentially declining, across the balance of the year and then you tend to see it pop back up in Q4 again, because candidly, that's our biggest bookings quarter of the 4 during the year. And that's been a phenomenon for this business for a long time. So that's really, what's what's happening there on that front.

Speaker 8

Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. Alright. Well done.

Thanks.

Speaker 4

You bet. Thank

Speaker 1

you. Our next question comes from Rob Sym Mohan from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Yes. Thank you. I was wondering if you can talk a little bit about the trends U. S. Versus international in your segment reporting.

It looks like you saw opposite of what most of the others saw with Americas sort of weaker and international stronger. Is that just an acceleration toward subscriptions that happen more in the Americas or any other color you can share that would be helpful and and have a follow-up plan?

Speaker 4

Yeah. Yeah. This is this is exactly it's the the accelerations into subscription bookings in Americas has been leading all year long and has peaked at, approximately 87% in Q4 for the U. S. International has been a little bit trained behind in terms of of subscription bookings mix, but it's catching up.

And that bookings mix is what is driving the Q4 results here. So, Americas actually had a very, very strong quarter. But because of that, extremely high, bookings mix, that makes the, you know, in quarter revenues look smaller than what they actually are. Based on the subscription business.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thanks Oliver. And Mark, on the free cash flow guide of $200,000,000 to $250,000,000, You mentioned that you that's a sort of net of some of the headwinds you're baking in for the reorg and real costs that you noted. Can you give us some sense of the magnitude of those costs so we can sort of get a poor understanding of the strength of the free cash flow trajectory here? Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yeah. So thanks, Wamsi. Yeah. We have, like, we're still working through what that is between sort of natural attrition and other actions. So, you know, that's why we're we've we've sort of called that out.

But even on an apples to apples basis, we think it's gonna grow over the prior year. From where we were on the 204 even if I tend to potentially include some of that depending on where that lands. And so we'll have more of a sense of that as it gets rolled out here across Q1. But it, you know, it's it's it's it could be a meaningful number, you know, in, I mean, you know, less obviously than $100,000,000, but it's more than 10.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thanks for the color, Mark.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Zane Crane from Bernstein Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could give us a sense for what we should expect for 2019 in terms of the assets acquired by capital lease. I believe it was $52,000,000 in 2018. Just wondering what your expectations are for 2019 for that type of asset acquisition?

Speaker 5

Sure. So I think we expect it to be definitely higher. The magnitude is really hard to quantify how much does a customer want to continue to buy and own the hardware upfront versus subscribe to the entire solution? But we clearly expect it to be above the 52,000,000 ish that we that we have, you know, on on the balance sheet today.

Speaker 10

Okay. Should we think of that like a 2x increase, 20% in any ballpark range you can

Speaker 5

I think, you know, if I had to guess it's 75,000,000 dollars, $75,100,000,000 potentially?

Speaker 10

Got you. That's very helpful. Just quick follow-up. You guys talked a lot at your Analyst Day about the strength of your renewals and how that does not seem to present a material risk to the business. Is there something could you guys maybe give us, quarterly renewal rates or just kind of make that a standard KPI so we can see what the renewal rate on contract each quarter is or maybe give us an update on what it was for Q4?

Speaker 5

Yes, we haven't done we haven't looked at it that way. That's something that we'll take under consideration moving forward, but that's not a metric that we've that we've talked about. We don't have customer loss. And so given our focus on existing customers, then it becomes a question of they grew ARR. So do we count that as you know, you know, they renewed at a 100% or do we say, hey, everything else they're doing with us to expand their workloads, etcetera?

Do I bake that in and call that? Really as part of the renewal or not, particularly when they convert all their historical licenses to subscription. And that's why we haven't really done that because it's not a true, subscription renewal where they don't own the underlying asset like see when you're a 100% subscription business. And so that's that's something we're we're contemplating looking at across the year.

Speaker 10

Okay. That'd be great. Well, thanks very much and congrats.

Speaker 1

Yes. Thank you. Our next question comes from Karl Keirstead from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Speaker 11

Thanks. I've got 2 both for Mark. Mark, on Q1 twenty nineteen, you obviously didn't give us a total revenue guide. You only gave us recurring revs. Would you expect for the perpetual and consulting revenue streams that the pace of decline in Q1 might be somewhat comparable to what you guided to

Speaker 5

very difficult to predict because these transactions are very fluid and go right up to the end of the line as to whether it goes perpetual or post subscription, which we saw across a few quarters here in 'eighteen, but I would expect in, on an absolute dollar basis, perpetual to be down year over year.

Speaker 11

Okay. Thanks for that. And then maybe a second to follow-up Mark, you mentioned, that there was better than expected linearity in 4Q. I'm just wondering if you could elaborate, why was that? And in terms of the P and L impact, I presume that, that helped you on the revenue line.

It probably helped you a little bit on the cash flow side. And does that create any headwinds that we should keep in mind for Q1? Thank you.

Speaker 5

So yes, earlier bookings linearity drove the sequential growth in recurring revenue Q4 over Q3 were up 16,000,000 ahead of our expectations from where we landed in Q3. It did not impact cash flows at all because most of those deals the cash will get collected in Q1 and versus in Q4. So it was it did not help, cash flow generation in in q 4, but we got meaningful contribution into recurring revenue recognition inside Q4 given the timing of those deals. And the sales force started to realize that comp plans, we're going to be shifting in 2019 towards ARR growth, term start dates are important and so forth. And I think we just got phenomenal follow through by our sales teams in Q4 on that front, which drove the upside in recurring revenue higher than we expected.

In addition, as you may recall, our Q3 call, we had a very significant transaction we thought was going perpetual that ultimately ended up going subscription and closed in early Q4 that helped also drive that. I mean, we anticipated that, but we got a lot more of the, subscription deals done Q4 because we put up 68,000,000 of net of currency impacts and ARR growth in the in in Q4 with a lot of that growth contributing to the recurring revenue in Q1.

Speaker 9

Got it.

Speaker 11

That's very helpful. Thanks a lot, Mark.

Speaker 8

Yes.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Phil Winslow Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker 12

Yes, thanks guys for taking my question. Just had a I wanted some color on sort of the deployment options that the customers are taking. I wonder if you could give us a sense of the of the subscription business sort of which folks you think you're kind of going to cloud or maybe still sticking with the appliance model versus also maybe just the just going subscription for the software. Just maybe sort of a sense of sort of what you saw this last year in kind of compare that and how you're kind of thinking about how that mix trends?

Speaker 4

Phil, this is Oliver. A great question. This is fiscal straight back to our strategy and to the megadata customers, that we focus on. We see a very strong demand for hybrid deployments from our negative customer base. They are asking for the ability to deploy across a variety of options, they heavily are still invested in on premises deployments, whether that is optimized hardware or whether that is, on commodity hardware, and a majority of our subscription bookings that you see are on premises, many of them are linked to cloud and hybrids deployments as I gave examples, even in my, in my remarks earlier, where companies run their large production instances on, on premises, but expand with, virtual labs and experimentation into the various cloud options that we offer.

Speaker 12

Got it. And then also just a technology and competitive question here as well. I mean, one of the things you talked about at Analyst Day was the support for languages integration with SQL R Python, etcetera, sort of call it data store, persistent storage. And then sort of your engines on top of that in support for multiple languages. When you think about some of the single point product competitors, we've seen some of them like Snowflake and Databricks, you get partner up.

Obviously, one more of a Spark Python guy, the other one more SQL oriented. How do you think about sort of your positioning with VAN age, your language support, your new SQL, etcetera, there's different engines versus, let's say, the point competitors, they're mostly cloud the better, better partnering to try to get there?

Speaker 4

Yes. So I think this goes back to one of the most differentiating characteristics advantage for megadata companies. There's a lot of point solutions. In fact, we have a lot of megadata companies that have to tell us they have 100, if not 1000 of point solutions deployed with different languages, with different versions of languages, different dialects, it's making it very, very difficult for these companies to maintain a grow and optimize these environments. With Vantage, we give these companies the option to integrate the various different engines.

And you mentioned Spark and you mentioned, you know, languages like Python and R and others, integrated into a single instance that, megadata companies can scale around and virtualize their workloads within that choice of deployment, therefore providing a single user experience for their applications and for their thousands of users which in turn lets them simplify their, their ecosystem, simplify and reduce their cost structures. That ultimately they have inherited over the last decade or so from, you know, literally thousands of, of point solution deployments that they have. And so Vantage is really finding, a lot of positive momentum with our megadata customer base for that reason. That integration that simplification. 11 advanced SQL dialect, 1 dialect of Python, 1 dialect of R, NT engines directly integrated on top of storage options, like you mentioned, you know, S3 and others, is really what's driving the interest in our customer base.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks guys.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Raimo Lenschow from Barclays.

Speaker 6

Thanks for taking my question. Oliver, good luck. In the new quest, the SSE or the question I had on if you think about the Teradata and Vantage now, you talked about the very large customers. How do we have to think about the the old 2000 series guys, especially in Europe, you were kind of expanding more that way. What's their feedback from what a feedback from those guys about Teradata's and their new direction?

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Vantage. So we have multiple deployment choices, obviously, for Vantage, Vantage finds, a, a very good reception from the entire customer base. Clearly, as we said, our focus is on megadata companies. And yes, we have 2000 series appliances years ago, deployed across a variety of customer bases, in, in, in what we have done in our platform. And you probably remember, at the beginning of the Teradata Everywhere strategy, I pointed out that we had something like 12 different hardware platforms.

We are down to basically one hardware platform when we meet on premises, which is a software defined in telecloud platform. This is where we made the shift from separating compute and storage and that has allowed us in a software defined environment. To configure the platforms through software to the various use cases that needs thereby eliminating the various different hardware platforms that we built in years prior to that because remember, these were hardwired platforms. You picked 2000, it was for forever 2000, within Teleflex with its software defined nature, we can dial up compute, we can dial up storage And now with Vantage, we're expanding the use into other storage formats like as 3 object stores that no longer need to get imported into the into the platforms, but create directly in place by Vantage and that is what makes that story very powerful.

Speaker 6

Perfect. That's really helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyler Radke from Citi.

Speaker 13

Hey, thank you. And Oliver, congratulations on the new role. Oliver, I was hoping that you could share with us exactly how you're measuring the strong adoption you've seen of Vantage? And could you also remind us assumed? Is the customers upgrading to the latest version of Teradata and just kind of walk us through that go to market motion?

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Thank you, Helen. Yeah, so we made one of the big design goals for Vantage as we brought that technology together over the last several years was to make the migration for existing customers as seamless and as simple as possible. So, any existing customer on prior versions of Teradata can migrate straight into Vantage without any necessary changes to their data structures, datasets, applications, queries. All of that is fully backwards compatible.

Making for a very easy migration path. Vantage is, is, is consumed, predominantly or almost exclusively as subscription which is, driving up obviously our, ARR and subscription mix. I talked in the remarks, we have over 100 customers that are in the process of rolling out the antigen production and that's in a very short period of time. That's the fastest adoption of anything that Terry built in terms of software in our history. That makes us obviously very, optimistic, for the future of Vantage.

Customer feedback and reception is very good. And so, yeah, ease of deployment a big part. And on the other side, the fact that when they migrate to Vantage, it's reducing their complexity of their ecosystems because many of these analytical capabilities have to be handcrafted as we heard before point solutions point versions of different languages and frameworks. This now comes integrated for our customers and that takes a lot of complexity away from lines of business as well as IT departments that I always have to, to develop this, in house Great.

Speaker 13

And a follow-up for Mark. We saw obviously the services consulting services guidance for 2019. Just curious how you're thinking about, realigning the consulting group, what you're factoring in, in terms of headcount reductions and how you are thinking about minimizing the disruption that something like that could cause? Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yeah. So, yes, Tyler. So we're focusing it and realigning it around our megadata customers to drive more consumption of our Vantage analytics software platform. So, we're reorganizing the various sets of skills and is that we have around this. The consequence of which is, yes, we've said we expect less revenue because we're not doing consulting for consulting sake.

We're doing consulting clearly with a focus around megadata customers and driving consumption. So the consequence of that is, yes, there's going to be lower costs, which are going to improve the overall margin profile, operating profile for the company. In terms of a headcount reduction versus what just happens through natural attrition. It'll be a combination of of of both of that. But you know, we feel good about where that's at.

It's in process, which is why Q1, you know, has traditionally been our lowest quarter from a from a from a operating margin perspective and then it builds throughout the year, which is the same as if you look across what happened in 2017 2018, that's the phenomenon and the nature of our business. It's just that we're we're driving it, squarely to align to the strategy.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 1

And thank you very much. We're now out of time. I will turn the call back to Oliver Ratzesberger for final remarks.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Thank you very much, everyone. To summarize, I want to say, we are really pleased with our excellent performance in Q4 in 2018. 1st and foremost, I'd like to reiterate a big thank you to our great Terry to people. Our success would not have been possible without their dedication to our customers.

As we said, we are, we, we believe we are very well positioned and very optimistic for 2019 our strategy is definitely working. Our execution is well underway and we are committed to continue customer success and driving long term value for our shareholders. With that, we look forward to updating you again in May. Thank you very much and have a great day.

Speaker 1

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