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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

Oct 17, 2019

Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining Atlassian's earnings conference call for the first quarter of fiscal 2020. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay from the investor relations section of Atlassian's website following this call. I will now hand the call over to Martin Lam, Atlassian's Senior Manager of Investor Relations.

Martin Lam
Senior Manager of Investor Relations, Atlassian

Good afternoon, and welcome to Atlassian's first quarter fiscal 2020 earnings conference call. On the call today, we have Atlassian's Co-Founders and Co-CEOs, Scott Farquhar and Mike Cannon-Brookes, our Chief Financial Officer, James Beer, and our President, Jay Simons. Earlier today, we issued a press release and a shareholder letter with our financial results and commentary for our first quarter of fiscal 2020. These items were also posted on the investor relations section of Atlassian's website at investor.atlassian.com. On our IR website, there is also an accompanying presentation and data sheet available. We'll make some brief opening remarks and then spend the rest of the call on Q&A. Statements made on this call include forward-looking statements.

Forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from any future results, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by the forward-looking statement. You should not rely upon forward-looking statements as predictions of future events. Forward-looking statements represent our management's beliefs and assumptions only as of the date such statements are made. Further information on these and other factors that could affect the company's financial results is included in filings we make with the Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time, including the section titled Risk Factors in our most recent Form 20-F and quarterly report on Form 6-K. In addition, today's call, we will discuss non-IFRS financial measures. These non-IFRS financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with IFRS.

There are a number of limitations related to the use of these non-IFRS financial measures versus the nearest IFRS equivalents, and they may be different from non-IFRS and non-GAAP measures used by other companies. A reconciliation between IFRS and non-IFRS financial measures is available in our earnings release, our shareholder letter, and in our updated investor data sheet on our IR website. I will now turn the call over to Scott for opening remarks before we move to Q&A.

Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Thanks, everyone, for joining today. We're out of the blocks in good form in fiscal 2020. This quarter, we grew revenue by 36% year-over-year and generated more than $62.4 million of free cash flow. We also added over 7,000 net new customers during the quarter and now have more than 159,000 customers in total. This quarter, we introduced two important new additions of our cloud offerings, Free and Premium. Our disruptive business model continues to win new customers, both large and small, and these new additions offer them more choice and capabilities. We want it to be easier and less costly for teams to get started in the cloud and grow with us as their needs change and become more complex. Premium illustrates the increased sophistication of our enterprise cloud offerings, providing large companies the flexibility and the tools they need.

We are also excited to have acquired Code Barrel, the creator of Automation for Jira. As a platform for managing work and workflows, Jira is in a unique position to help automate manual steps in a workflow to help people and teams design work more efficiently. Automation is increasing priority for our customers because it helps them move faster and collaborate more effectively. Automation for Jira is already used by thousands of teams and is another important step as we continue to enhance our cloud products. We provided more detail on these announcements along with many other updates in our shareholder letter that we issued earlier today. With that, I'll pass the call over to the operator to Q&A.

Operator

Certainly. To ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound or hash key. Again, that is star one on your telephone to ask a question. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Heather Bellini with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Heather Bellini
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. Thank you so much for taking the question. I wanted to ask a little bit just because there's been some concern over the past few days about if you've started to see any change in the customer buying patterns, right? I know you guys don't have a direct sales force, but I know James has obviously seen different cycles from time to time being at different companies. But any sense that there's been any change in the demand environment?

I had a follow-up question just if you could share with us anything about any potential impact you saw from the price changes, if there's a way to help think about the impact on the quarter, whether we should be thinking about it more similar to the fiscal year 2018 price increase where the timing was more similar, or is it potentially more like last year's in terms of the behavior in deferred revenue? Thank you.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Hey, Heather. Let me start off with our answers. First of all, I wouldn't say we've seen any material change in customer buying patterns. We've been pleased by the results, the overall strength right across the product set and our different deployment options. Nothing material in that regard. Reaction to price increase, Jay, do you want to start off with that one, and then I can come back on some of the timing items?

Jay Simons
President, Atlassian

I think similar to how we've reported in the past, it was in line with expectations. I think customers, and part of that is just around the planning that we do that goes into the increases that we do communicate to customers and the way we communicate those price increases to customers. I think we're pleased with how it's been adopted.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Yeah. In terms of the timing, we announced our price increases at the start of this past September. A couple of weeks earlier than was the case a year ago, and so more in line with the timing of fiscal 2018. For that reason, we expected that there would be some additional customer activity in Q1, as there was in Q1 of fiscal 2018, and that there would be potentially some of that bleeding over into Q2 as well, again, as there was in fiscal 2018.

Heather Bellini
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz from Mizuho. Your line is open.

Gregg Moskowitz
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay. Thank you very much. Good afternoon, guys. I found it interesting, just in follow-up to Heather's question, that your EMEA revenue growth actually re-accelerated this quarter, just given again, some of the macro and other concerns that we've all heard about. Is there anything that you would call out with respect to your strong execution in EMEA?

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Thank you, Gregg, for the question. Recall that over half of our partners are based in EMEA. We have over 500 partners around the world, and they have tended to be quite active, helping their customers, our customers, step in front of the price increases. We saw this in the last couple of years. While that activity generally impacts our deferred revenue balances, there are, I think as we've discussed in the past, a couple of revenue drivers there as well. That is a part of what's driving those strong results, both in EMEA and in APAC as well.

Gregg Moskowitz
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay. That's really helpful, James, thanks. Just as a follow-up, I realize that we're only one quarter, of course, into FY '20, but just relative to your prior guidance for the cloud mix shift to cause a 100 basis point revenue growth headwind for the year, have you seen anything at this point that perhaps might tilt you in one direction or another? Or do you still feel that's probably the right landing spot for the cloud impact this year? Thank you.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Yeah, no, I would continue to say that that one point headwind to revenue growth year-over-year is what we're expecting. Recall that there were three elements to that when we talked about it 90 days ago. The first, the launch of free editions of Jira Software and Confluence. The second saw that we would offer free trials of our cloud products to the user of that same product behind the firewall. The mix shift that you're referring to in the question. One of the other things to recall is that we just rolled out the free versions of Jira Software and Confluence just quite recently. Continue to be of the view that that 100-basis point headwind is the right way to think about those three issues combined.

Gregg Moskowitz
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay, terrific. Thanks very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Weiss from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Keith Weiss
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yes. Thank you guys for taking the question. Very nice quarter. Two questions. One on sort of the new customer adds. You guys have been adding customers at a really nice clip. Saw really good growth in that net new customer add this quarter, up about 20% on a year-on-year basis. Anything in particular driving that kind of stronger new customer adds in Q1? Anything in that that wouldn't be repeatable for the rest of the year, number one. Number two, another acquisition sort of going deeper into sort of the opportunity around Jira and some of that core IT. We haven't heard as much about the stuff outside of the IT department. Can you give us an update on kind of how we're thinking about the opportunity for Jira outside of the IT department?

Is the focus still there in the same way it had been historically in terms of expanding the use cases outside of those core IT use cases?

Jay Simons
President, Atlassian

Hey, Keith. Jay here. I'll take the first part, then hand it off to Mike on the second one. In terms of customer growth, really contribution across the board from all the major products that contribute to new customer adds. As we talked about last quarter, there's one component in there related to the monetization improvements that we introduced to Trello around board limits for team usage. There is some nascent pent-up demand within the existing customer base that's contributing to the number, not in a materially outsized proportion, but it is in there. That's maybe one component as we roll through a year of those monetization improvements in the base, that'll moderate a little bit.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Just one thing to add on to that briefly, we continue to see more than 90% of those new customers going straight to our cloud services. Mike?

Mike Cannon-Brookes
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Yeah. Hi, Keith. Mate, look, we obviously continue to remain bullish and focused on the opportunities both inside and outside the IT and software department. You referenced the acquisition of Code Barrel. Obviously, automation is an area that we already have quite a variety of offerings in. Now in Trello, in Opsgenie, and we have some automation features in Jira Service Desk. This really lets us expand that automation offering across the whole Jira platform. When you talk about non-IT teams, where does that mainly exist? Obviously, Jira Core, just for business workflow and process management at all sorts of levels. This automation fits directly inside of that sweet spot for companies that are modeling all sorts of processes on top of Jira already. This just gives them extra superpowers.

Within Service Desk, it's also incredibly important because Service Desk, while it continues to land very strongly in IT, does expand very well outside of IT to all sorts of other flow-based teams within an organization, be it in legal or finance or HR, workplace management, any of these sorts of things, that automation obviously works very well in those areas as well. Obviously, in this case, automation doesn't affect Trello or Confluence or anything else we sell outside to business teams. From an automation point of view, yes, very strong for the whole Jira platform, both inside and outside IT. Obviously for us, the core of that business is a bunch of really kickass people that came from Atlassian to start with. We know the people really well, and I think it's going to work really well.

Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Thanks.

Very happy.

Thank you guys.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Arun Vira from William Blair. Your line is open.

Arun Vira
Analyst, William Blair

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe I just wanted to follow up on the acquisition that you were just talking about, just to try to get a better understanding of how you might integrate this into Jira and how you might monetize it. I think I read that it's largely sold through the marketplace today, but can you maybe just walk us through how the monetization model might work? Is it something that you plan to introduce on the premium products only, or is this going to be widely available across all Jira tiers?

Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Arun, Scott here. We've had some success. We acquired Butler and did something similar, where we've had a lot of success at packaging part of it in our premium, allowing part of it in our sort of standard offering for customers to get a taste of it. In this bigger acquisition, I think we'll also have some existing customers, particularly around existing customers in terms of transition period. There's a lot of things to consider there. We do think it will help bolster our premium offering over time, and this is something our customers are really interested in.

Arun Vira
Analyst, William Blair

Great. Thanks. Then maybe on the freemium products that you've launched, the freemium for, or the free tiers of Jira and Confluence, can you just give us a sense of what you're seeing from customers in the initial phases of this launch? I know it's still early, but are you seeing a big uptick of new customers coming into that free tier? Maybe on the other side, what are you seeing from existing customers that used to be paying but might have moved down to the free tier? Thank you.

Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Yeah. If I think about our disruptive model over the years, we've always tried to make sure our products are accessible for every size company. The startups that's coming out of university, people just starting with two or three-person organization, all the way up to people that use our things with 30,000, 50,000 people, and to span that gamut. We've always had our pricing to appeal to that. If I were to go back 20 years when we started, only the Fortune 500 could afford software, and we pioneered the model to make software affordable to companies of all sizes. If you look what we've done with free and premium, it's continue to improve that in the cloud.

On the premium side, it's making sure our largest customers have the features that they need to continue their expansion in the cloud or to move their on-premises deployments to the cloud. On the free side of things, it's around making sure, again, that those companies who at the moment we charge $2 a month, that the barrier of a credit card, if we can remove that, we believe there'll be a large increase in the funnel there. On the free, I think your specific question was how much it's opened the funnel.

Not positioned to talk to that at the moment, apart from saying that we are pleased by the results internally of how that is going, and that it's still early days, and we'd want to look at some of those things in cohorts over a long period of time to make sure that it really uplifts. Irrespective, I guess, of the short-term benefit, the long-term benefit is ensuring that every single company of every size can utilize these products.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

And just to-

Arun Vira
Analyst, William Blair

Thanks very much.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

emphasize what I was mentioning earlier about that effect of free being embedded within that one point headwind to our revenue growth rate in FY 2020.

Arun Vira
Analyst, William Blair

Thanks, James.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Turrin with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Robert Majek
Analyst, Raymond James

Hi, this is actually Robert Majek for Michael Turrin. It sounds like Opsgenie is doing really well as part of the Atlassian family. Can you just give us some more color there, the changes you've made that led to an accelerated growth rate? Maybe more broadly, if you could just talk more about the long-term opportunity for that asset.

Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Michael, it's Scott here again. We're pretty excited by the Opsgenie acquisition. We just actually had a party in our office to celebrate one year of closing last night. It's crazy, it seems like only yesterday. The acquisition is doing really well inside Atlassian. If you look at the space, the incident management companies around the world are struggling to, how do they release software at a faster pace? How do they keep up with their competitors? You're seeing a whole movement around things like DevOps, and a big part of that is making sure that when incidents happen, as they naturally do, that people can respond quickly and have the right people available, and that's what Opsgenie does. Now, Opsgenie, we're pleased with some of the integration that we've done on the product side, the identity side, on the user space side.

I still think we have a lot of opportunity there to put those products together, particularly with our large existing base. We have seen a doubling of the rate of paid seats since we acquired the company. I think we'll put it in our shareholders letter. That's been great, and we still think we have a long way to go in terms of introducing our existing customers to the Opsgenie products.

Robert Majek
Analyst, Raymond James

Appreciate it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Kurtz with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Alex Kurtz
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Yeah, thanks. I just want to follow up on that thread just in your shareholder letter talking about the free tier doubling the pace of growth for Opsgenie from a user perspective. When you see that kind of result, is that how you might think about future M&A that you can really accelerate a product in market where maybe as a standalone entity, a company just can't get to that kind of growth rate, and that might change how you think about future M&A? Do you think that was really specific to the markets that Opsgenie serves? I guess the question is, when you see that impact, do you think you guys might want to be a little bit more aggressive on it and sorry, M&A?

Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

I'll take that. It's Scott here. Mike might want to add something at the end. When we think about M&A, we think a couple things. Firstly, it's got to be a great culture fit for the company. That's first and foremost. It's very hard to change culture. Second, it has to be a mission fit. There's no point acquiring companies that don't work with our mission, which is unleash the potential of every team. Third is a business model fit. It's more difficult, though not impossible, to change a company's business model. Take it from low volume, high price to high volume, low price, for example, which is a difficult thing. After that, we consider technical and other things. If we do find companies that align with our mission, with our culture and with our business model, we will consider them.

We do believe that our base of 159,000 customers and millions of teams around the world is something where they're interested in other products that we can bring to market for them, both acquisitions and new products that we'll develop organically. Any opportunity is really large. We're not about kind of acquiring stuff for revenue's sake. There's a lot of things that we could, just random things introduced into our customer base that may bring short-term revenue but don't bring us closer to our mission, and we want to be very disciplined about not going after those types of opportunities.

Alex Kurtz
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thank you.

Mike Cannon-Brookes
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Yeah. I would just add one small thing. Obviously, we've seen us make a series of changes in Opsgenie, it's obviously we're extremely pleased about how it's going. I do believe companies have a DNA. We obviously have a long-term philosophy, a DNA of having a long-term philosophy and making changes that have patience over the long term. As Scott mentioned, 159,000 customers. We have a massive distribution engine for software, you still have to have fantastic applications with really great feature sets. Opsgenie has the best features in the market, we have an ability to put a disruptive price against it to really make a huge dent. I think that fits our DNA in a really good way. Part of the reason we've been so excited about the team since they've come on board, and we're starting to see some pretty great results.

Taking our model up against big enterprise software is something that we're very familiar with doing. We have almost 20 years now of history of success in doing so and intend to continue that.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Derrick Wood with Cowen and Company. Your line is open.

Derrick Wood
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Great. Thanks, nice job on the quarter. I wanted to touch on what you're seeing in terms of rate of activity from customers moving from server to either data center or cloud. I guess on Cloud specifically, now that you've got Cloud Premium out, I know it's still very early, but as you look over the next 12 to 24 months, do you see migration being more gradual as enterprises slowly get more comfortable, or do you see perhaps more of a hockey shape just with more acceptance of cloud and the advancements you're making with your Premium SKU?

Jay Simons
President, Atlassian

Hey, Derrick, Jay here. We talked a little bit about this on the last call. We're seeing increasing interest in cloud generally, but also in cloud from our server customer base. Part of what we've invested, we made big investments in migration tooling just to make that process simple. We've made some price and calibration adjustments to make it easier for customers to move. We're working a lot more closely with customers to make sure that the planning of that move and the implementation of that move is smooth. I think just in terms of the demand environment, it's increasing at a steady clip.

I think what we signaled last quarter is just the investments that we've made over the past year and just the readiness to make sure that when customers do want to move, because it is both in some cases it's a re-platforming. It's saying, I'm going to take an instance that I have three or four or five years of history with, and I want to move that smoothly from infrastructure that I'm hosting and managing to infrastructure that I no longer have to manage because Atlassian can do a better job of it for me. Then data center is a little bit of a different, not even a migration pattern. It's basically an upsell from a standard version of server on-prem to a high availability instance of the on-prem infrastructure.

That's still a notion that really large customers are choosing, which is fine because we're celebrating the customer's choice to either remain on-prem or go to cloud if they want to.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Just a couple of things to emphasize what Jay was saying there. We're obviously very pleased with the rate of growth of our subscription business, which encapsulates both our cloud and data center business. That grew at 50% in Q1. You mentioned the potential effect of cloud premium. As I've said in the past, I wouldn't expect cloud premium offerings for JSW and Confluence to drive a material revenue effect in FY '20. I think we see the benefits of that downstream.

Derrick Wood
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Got it. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nikolay Beliov with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Nikolay Beliov
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just to follow up on the last question, you've put in place channel incentives, product incentives, pricing incentives to steer the server customer base to the cloud version. Do you envision this being, I don't know, like two, three-year process or five, six-year kind of transition of the install base and the $400 million worth of maintenance to cloud?

Jay Simons
President, Atlassian

I mean, the transition will happen over years. It'll be gradual.

Nikolay Beliov
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. Mike, question for you. You raised the revenue guidance for the year in line with the Q1 beat. I'm just wondering what kind of puts and takes you're considering for the rest of the year as you provided the updated guidance for the year. Thank you.

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Yeah. Well, versus the midpoint of our original guide 90 days ago, we've obviously raised beyond the Q1 beat quite substantially. This reflects our ongoing confidence, as I said right at the outset of the call, across the products and across the deployment options. Really that's the logic behind the moves that we've made today on the guide.

Nikolay Beliov
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gray Powell from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Gray Powell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thanks for taking the question. Yeah. On an absolute dollar basis, you added more revenue to the subscription line than any prior quarter ever. I know you're not going to give exact numbers, maybe broadly speaking, how much of that is being driven by just normal demand versus customers shifting from server to cloud?

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Well, I would say that the gradual server-to-cloud transition is building momentum. What I really would say, when you think about that subscription growth rate, it just represents the underlying strength of both the cloud business and the data center business. We're pleased by how both of those business lines are growing very substantially.

Gray Powell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Got it. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brent Thill with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Luv Sodha
Analyst, Jefferies

Hi, this is Luv Sodha on for Brent Thill. Congrats again on a strong quarter. I had a couple questions. One was, given the impressive subscription year-over-year growth rate of 50% this quarter, I know last quarter you guys mentioned that you would grow over 40% year-over-year for subscription. Is there any update to that? The second question was really that this is the first time you guys have done price increases on the Data Center product. Has there been any initial reaction to that from customers, if you have seen that?

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Yeah. Let me take the first part of that. In terms of the subscription business, we guided at the outset of the year that we thought we could beat 40% growth year-over-year. Obviously, the Q1 result is a very nice down payment, if you will, on achieving that objective. Nothing to update around that at this time. In terms of the price increase activity around data center customers, Jay, would you want to take that one?

Jay Simons
President, Atlassian

Yeah, no, fine reaction. I mean, the price increase of data center was super nominal, as you mentioned. It was the first adjustment we made to data center pricing since introducing it four years ago.

Luv Sodha
Analyst, Jefferies

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jack Andrews with Needham. Your line is open.

Jack Andrews
Analyst, Needham

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could speak about the broader demand trends and competitive landscape as it relates to Trello. It seems like in this broader collaboration space, more companies are increasing some focus and investments there. I was just wondering, are you seeing any sort of inflection in the demand for more general collaboration tools?

Mike Cannon-Brookes
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Yeah. Good day, mate. I would say more general collaboration tools continue to be something that grows as business evolves, right? People are getting more comfortable with using these types of tools. You have, obviously, people joining the workforce who are incredibly comfortable with mobile-based collaboration apps and things like that. Nothing unusual in the last quarter over a general shift towards collaborative tools, both in, as we would say, in specific domains. I would argue that Jira, Confluence, other tools we have are actually modern collaboration tools. They have all of the modern collaboration features from our teamwork platform, but focused on specific domains, whether it be project management, workflow management or document collaboration. Nothing particularly changing other than a general movement in our direction, which is obviously where we intend to be.

Jack Andrews
Analyst, Needham

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Again, if you would like to ask a question, press star one on your telephone. Your next question comes from the line of Rishi Jaluria with D.A. Davidson. Your line is open.

Rishi Jaluria
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Two here, first on Trello. I mean, you're now up to 50 million users. Can you maybe help us understand if you've seen particular traction in specific industries, lines of business within organizations, specific geographies? Alongside that, on the monetization side, I know you introduced board limits relatively recently, and that seems to be helping. Maybe help us understand what the path to monetization for Trello looks like going forward. On the Automation for Jira and the acquisition there, maybe just help us understand the technology a little better. Is this similar to the Butler acquisition for Trello, or is this more robust, maybe even slightly similar to an RPA offering? Thanks.

Mike Cannon-Brookes
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Rishi, I'll certainly take the first half there. I guess I could take the second half, too. Look, on Trello, we continue to be extremely positive. As we said in the shareholder letter, we passed 50 million registered users this quarter, which is again, a huge jump on last year and continues to power along really nicely. As we say pretty much every quarter to you guys, the first goal is to continue Trello growing the way it's growing. I think we're sort of ticking that box and continue to travel well there. Those users are all across the globe. It's a very global phenomenon. It's an application that works as well in Android in Brazil as it does in iOS in America or on a desktop in Australia.

In terms of a global application, it is very large and I think we're showing in the numbers that we can continue to grow it very strongly. We are, as you mentioned, starting to monetize it more in the last sort of six to 12 months, seeing good traction happening there. Just in terms of managing how we separate between the free and paid offerings, you mentioned board limits, a few other small tweaks and changes we've made to monetization and pricing. I would just say again, that comes from our sort of long-term patient philosophy as a company and our DNA of being very expert at how we optimize pricing for different customer groups and customer segments, and make sure that drives firstly growth, and then second value to Atlassian after we deliver value to our customers. Trello is no different there.

The only difference with Trello, I point out, is we're still not actively cross-flowing users to other Atlassian properties yet. It's on the list. We'll get there, but we're not actively looking at today. The other two priorities are taking more of that in short term. I guess I can take the Automation for Jira. Look, technologically, I'm not sure what depth you want in answer to that question. It's similar to Butler in some ways in terms of how I guess it works as an automation, obviously built completely differently inside of the Jira stack. It's a very different world. For the basics of things like RPA, for sure, you could use it to automate some of this, but I wouldn't say it's a competitor to RPA tools in that way. It's more about automating, I guess, repetitive or tasks that you don't necessarily need to do.

I've given the example of our legal team uses Service Desk very heavily to manage incoming contracts and move them around. They can look for missing fields, missing data, other things they would need, and bounce it straight automatically back to the user to get more information or to move it to the next stage in the workflow without one of our very expert lawyers with their legal degrees having to spend time moving tickets around, which they shouldn't have to do, right? They want to focus on high-value work that leverages their skills. Automation just lets us take that to millions and millions of Jira users around the world. I think we're incredibly positive about the impact it can have.

Rishi Jaluria
Analyst, D.A. Davidson

Great. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of George Iwanyc with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

George Iwanyc
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Thank you for taking my question. Just another one on Code Barrel from an expense perspective. Is the acquisition pulling forward some expenses and is that kind of embedded with maintaining the operating margin guidance?

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Yeah, George, we've embedded all of that within the guidance. That's right.

George Iwanyc
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Yeah. Are you accelerating investment in other areas internally as well?

James Beer
CFO, Atlassian

Well, I wouldn't point to any particular acceleration driven by the acquisition per se. Obviously, we're very pleased to be adding the Code Barrel team and, as I say, we've catered to each of the effects there within the guide that we've issued.

George Iwanyc
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Okay. Just broadly speaking, on the IT side, has the competitive dynamics changed at all with the ramp of Jira Service Desk and Opsgenie and all the other efforts that you're doing focused right there?

Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Scott here. The competitive dynamics I don't think have changed significantly over the last couple of quarters. We feel increasingly confident about our position in IT. As we've sort of mentioned before, IT and software are becoming increasingly closer together, and that's an area that we have a real strong market position given that we have a large number of software developers and tools and products that help them be productive. As those teams work closer together, they're looking to have one stack to pull those things together. From that, we feel, I guess, increasingly confident about our position in the market. If we were looking at other people out there, I don't think there's any major change in the competitive dynamic.

George Iwanyc
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

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Scott Farquhar
Co-Founder and Co-CEO, Atlassian

Thanks everyone for joining the call today. From Mike and Scott down in Sydney, James and Jay up in San Francisco, we appreciate your time very much and look forward to keeping you updated on our progress as we travel into the future. Thank you.

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