Ladies and gentlemen, greetings, and welcome to the Valero Energy 4th Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Homer Bhullar, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Thank you, sir. You may begin.
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Valero Energy Corporation's 4th quarter 2020 earnings conference call. With me today are Joe Gorder, our Chairman and CEO Lane Riggs, our President and COO Jason Frazier, and several other members of Valero's senior management team. If you have not received the earnings release and would like a copy, You can find 1 on our website at investorvalero.com. Also attached to the earnings release are tables that I would now like to direct your attention to the forward looking statement disclaimer contained in the press release. In summary, it says that statements in the press release and on this conference call that state the company's or management's expectations or predictions of the future Are forward looking statements intended to be covered by the Safe Harbor provisions under federal securities laws.
There are many factors that could cause actual results to differ from our expectations, including those we've described in our filings with the SEC. Now, I'll turn the call over to Joe for opening remarks.
Thanks, Homer, and good morning, everyone. The COVID-nineteen pandemic has had an extraordinary impact on families, communities and businesses across the globe. The Energy business was among those confronted by unprecedented demand contraction, which began in the Q1 of 2020 As COVID-nineteen cases accelerated globally, resulting in an increase in crude oil and product inventories to record high levels. In response, we lowered our refinery utilization rates to more closely match product supply with demand. And as the pandemic related restrictions were eased in some regions and mobility increased, product demand increased substantially, Steadily reducing crude oil and product inventories.
We ended the year with U. S. Crude oil and product inventories Within the normal 5 year inventory band. Throughout the pandemic, our team has been thorough and decisive in its operational and financial response, while maintaining focus on safety and reliability. In fact, we set several operational records in 2020, Recording our best ever year on employee safety performance, achieving the milestone 2 years in a row and the best ever year for process safety and environmental performance.
In applying our refining expertise to optimize our renewable diesel segment, We set records for sales volumes and margin in 2020. We also made significant progress on our international to expand our product supply chain into higher growth markets with the start of waterborne product shipments to our new Veracruz terminal, Making Valero one of the largest fuel importers into Mexico. On the financial side, we improved our liquidity By raising $4,000,000,000 of debt at attractive rates, and we reduced our capital budget by over $500,000,000 while keeping our high return projects moving forward. And in spite of all the challenges this past year, we continue to honor our commitment to our shareholders By maintaining the dividend and ending the year with $3,300,000,000 of cash and $9,200,000,000 of total available liquidity. Despite the pandemic imposed challenges and several hurricanes, we completed and continue to make progress on several strategic growth projects, including the St.
Charles alkylation unit, which was brought online in the 4th quarter on schedule and under budget. The project further increases the competitiveness of the St. Charles Refinery and is a testament to the talent and efforts of the refining organization. The Pembroke cogen project and the Diamond Pipeline expansion are on track to be completed in the 3rd 4th quarters of 2021, And the Port Arthur Coker project is expected to be completed in 2023. The Diamond Green Diesel expansion project at St.
Charles, which we refer to as DGD2, is designed to increase renewable diesel production capacity by 400,000,000 gallons per year and is expected to be completed in the Q4 of 2021. And as a result of continuous process improvement and optimization, The capacity of the existing St. Charles Renewable Diesel Plant, DGD-one, has increased from 275,000,000 gallons per year to 290,000,000 gallons per year. With the completion of DGD II, the total capacity at St. Charles is expected to be 690,000,000 gallons per year.
In 2020, we laid out our comprehensive roadmap To that end, we are pleased to announce that the Board has approved DGD 3, a new 470,000,000 gallons per year renewable diesel plant at our Port Arthur, Texas Refinery. We're moving forward with the project immediately, and we now expect the new plant to be operational in the second half of twenty twenty three. Once DGD III is completed, DGD's combined annual capacity is Looking ahead, we expect to see continued improvement in refining margins as COVID-nineteen vaccines are widely distributed in the coming months, Allowing people and businesses to get back to normalcy. We're already seeing encouraging signs with strong diesel demand and with U. S.
Total light Product inventories now in the normal range. In addition, many uncompetitive refineries around the world announced shutdowns or conversions And we expect further capacity rationalizations to be announced this year. In closing, we remain steadfast in the execution of our strategy, pursuing excellence in operations, investing for earnings growth with lower volatility and honoring our commitment to stockholder returns. We expect low carbon fuel policies to continue to expand globally and drive demand for renewable fuels. And with that view, we're leveraging our global liquid fuels platform and expertise that comes with being the largest renewable diesel producer in North America to steadily expand our competitive advantage in economic low carbon projects for a higher return on invested capital.
So with that, Homer, I'll hand the call back to you.
Thanks, Joe. For the Q4 of 2020, we incurred a net loss attributable to Valero stockholders of $359,000,000 or $0.88 per share compared to net income of $1,100,000,000 or $2.58 per share for the Q4 of 2019. The Q4 2020 adjusted net loss attributable to Valero stockholders was 429,000,000 For 2020, the net loss attributable to Valero stockholders was $1,400,000,000 or $3.50 per share compared to net income of $2,400,000,000 or $5.84 per share in 2019. The 2020 adjusted net loss attributable to Valero stockholders was $1,300,000,000 or $3.12 per share compared to adjusted net income of $2,400,000,000 or $5.70 per share in 2019. 4th quarter and full year 2019 2020 adjusted results exclude items reflected in the financial tables that accompany the earnings release.
For reconciliations of actual to adjusted amounts, please refer to those financial tables. The refining segment reported an operating loss of $377,000,000 in the Q4 of 2020 compared to operating income of $1,400,000,000 in the Q4 of 2019. Excluding the LIFO liquidation adjustment and other operating The Q4 2020 adjusted operating loss for the refining segment was 476,000,000 4th quarter 2020 results were impacted by narrow crude oil differentials, lower product demand and lower prices as a result of the COVID-nineteen pandemic. Refining throughput volumes averaged 2,600,000 barrels per day, which was lower than the Q4 of 2019 due to lower product demand. Throughput capacity utilization was 81% in the Q4 of 2020.
Refining cash operating expenses of $4.40 per barrel were in line with guidance, but $0.47 Operating income for the Renewable Diesel segment was $127,000,000 for the Q4 of 2020 compared to $541,000,000 in the Q4 of 2019. After adjusting for the retroactive blenders tax In 2019, adjusted renewable diesel operating income was $187,000,000 in the Q4 of 2019. Renewable diesel sales volumes averaged 618,000 gallons per day in the Q4 of 2020, a decrease of 226,000 gallons per day versus the Q4 of 2019 due to the effect of plant maintenance. The segment set annual records for sales volumes of 787,000 gallons per day and margin of $2.66 per gallon. Operating income for the ethanol segment was $15,000,000 in the Q4 of 2020 compared to $36,000,000 in the Q4 of 2019.
Ethanol production volumes averaged 4,100,000 gallons per day in the Q4 of 2020, which was 197,000 gallons per day Lower than the Q4 of 2019. The decrease in operating income from the Q4 of 2019 was primarily due to lower margins resulting from higher corn prices and lower ethanol prices. For the Q4 of 2020, G and A expenses were $224,000,000 and net interest expense was $153,000,000 G and A expenses in 2020 of The annual effective tax rate was 45% for 2020, which was primarily the result of the carryback of our U. S. Federal tax net operating loss to 2015 when the statutory tax rate was 35%.
And we expect to receive a cash This was $96,000,000 in the Q4 of 2020. Excluding the unfavorable impact from the changes in working capital of $113,000,000 and our joint venture partners' 50% share of Diamond Green Diesel's net cash provided by operating activities, excluding changes in DGD's working capital, Adjusted net cash provided by operating activities was $140,000,000 and adjusted net cash provided by operating activities was 9 55,000,000 for the full year. With regard to investing activities, we made 622,000,000 Total capital investments in the Q4 of 2020, of which $214,000,000 was for sustaining the business, including costs for turnarounds, catalysts and regulatory compliance and $408,000,000 was for growing the business. Excluding capital investments attributable to our partners' 50% share of Diamond Green Diesel and those related to other variable interest entities, Capital investments attributable to Valero were $458,000,000 in the Q4 of 2020 $2,000,000,000 for the full year. Moving to financing activities, we returned $400,000,000 to our stockholders in the Q4 of 2020 through our dividend and $1,800,000,000 through dividends and buybacks in the year, resulting in a total 2020 payout ratio of 184 percent of adjusted net cash provided by operating activities.
And our Board of Directors just approved a regular quarterly dividend of 0.98 With regard to our balance sheet at quarter end, total debt and finance lease obligations were $14,700,000,000 And cash and cash equivalents were $3,300,000,000 The debt to capitalization ratio net of cash and cash equivalents was 37%. And at the end of December, we had $5,900,000,000 of available liquidity excluding cash. Turning to guidance, we expect capital investments attributable to Valero for 2021 to be approximately 2,000,000,000 which includes expenditures for turnarounds, catalysts and joint venture investments. About 60% of our capital investments is allocated to For modeling our Q1 operations, we expect refining throughput volumes to fall within the following ranges: Gulf Coast at 1,490,000 to 1,540,000 barrels per day Mid Continent at 410,000 to 400 30,000 barrels per day West Coast at 170,000 to 190,000 barrels per day and North Atlantic at 245,000 to 265,000 barrels per day. We refining cash operating expenses in the Q1 to be approximately $4.75 per barrel, which is impacted by lower throughput volumes Due to planned maintenance activity.
With respect to the Renewable Diesel segment, we expect sales volumes to be 790,000 gallons per day in 2021. Operating expenses in 2021 should be $0.50 per gallon, which includes $0.15 per gallon for non cash Costs such as depreciation and amortization. Our ethanol segment is expected to produce 3,700,000 gallons per day in the Q1. Operating expenses should average $0.39 per gallon, which includes $0.06 per gallon for non cash costs such as depreciation and amortization. For the Q1, net interest expense should be about $155,000,000 and total depreciation and amortization expense should be approximately 5 For 2021, we expect G and A expenses, excluding corporate depreciation, to be approximately 850,000,000 And the annual effective tax rate should approximate the U.
S. Statutory rate. That concludes our opening remarks. Before we open the call to questions, we again respectfully request that callers adhere to our protocol
Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. The confirmation Our first question is coming from the line of Doug Terreson with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning, everybody. Good morning, Doug.
Regarding refining fundamentals, Joe, you mentioned a minute ago that inventories are starting to shape up a little bit in close to 5 year levels, I think on an absolute basis, but they look like they're going to the same range adjusted for demand for both gasoline and distillate, which is Good thing. Margins are near year ago levels in most U. S. Markets and we're starting to see feedstock differentials widen too. So my question is, have you been surprised by the pace of the recovery that we've seen?
Do you think there's reason to believe that it's sustainable? And either way, what's your overall view for the recovery in refined products market for 2021? What's your outlook at this point?
Doug, that's a good question. We'll let Gary and Lane speak to it in some detail. But I mean, we've been pleased with the pace of the recovery so far. And frankly, I think you're going to see it accelerate as the vaccine rolls out more aggressively. That's kind of an obvious statement, but I I think sometimes we do take it for granted that we can really get the government functioning appropriately on the distribution.
I think we're going to be in much better shape, perhaps quicker than we all realize. And we've got a member of our Board of Directors who thinks that There's such pent up demand, certainly in the East Coast where he is and other parts of the country that when we do get the vaccine rolled out, we get a herd immunity In place, you're going to see this look a little bit like the roaring 20s, and that's his point of view. And I would tend to agree with that. So With that, I'll let Gary and Lane provide a little more color specifically regarding the inventories and demand.
Yes, Doug, this is Gary. Certainly, getting total life product inventory, we built a significant surplus, especially early on in the pandemic. So seeing that surplus essentially gone and getting back into the 5 year average range is very encouraging. As you know, as demand starts Pickup, it will allow margins to recover much quicker. I think encouraging another encouraging sign is the fact, despite the fact that we've had a surge COVID cases, gasoline demand for the DOE is still a little bit above 90% year over year where it was last year at this time.
Our wholesale volumes are showing to be pretty close to that. And so the combination of reasonable gasoline demand and relatively low gasoline Tore's has caused the prompt market to be a little stronger. I think one of the key things there is the stronger prompt market has really flattened the curve on gasoline. And so It's taking away a lot of that incentive to store summer grade gasoline and that certainly sets up for a stronger driving season in terms of gasoline margins. As Joe said, I think we view that we'll see gradual recovery.
2nd quarter, you'll start to see things pick up And then we expect things to be fairly normal by the Q3, with the exception that we do see that there could be a lot of pent up demand And people that are spending disposable income largely buying things that they're ordering are going to spend that disposable income getting out and On experiences, family vacations, which could cause a surge in gasoline demand. On the diesel side, As you kind of mentioned, diesel demand has really hung in there pretty strong. So, you know, the OEs are showing over 98% year over year diesel demand. Actually, the 7 day average in our system, we were at 111% year over year. So actually showing diesel demand growth in our system.
I think some of that heating oil demand has been strong, a little bit colder winter this year, Starting to see some drilling activity pick up, which of course helps diesel demand and then of course with people spending disposable income ordering things freight, on road freight, Trucking and rail has been strong as well. As we move throughout the year, we expect to see some incremental diesel demand coming from ag As you start to plant crops and then moving throughout the year, we also see that as jet demand begins to recover, It will lower diesel yields and help bring supply and demand into balance, which will set diesel up nicely longer term.
Okay, good points. So that kind of covers it for me. It sounds fairly encouraging.
Yes, Doug, I mean, look, we are encouraged. I mean, I think we're through the worst of this and we're looking forward to getting back to more normal lifestyles here and certainly a more normal business climate. Let me just say one thing before you get off. I understand that you're going to be repositioning this spring, And we've known each other for a very long time. And I'd be remiss if I just didn't say that Without question, your wisdom and insight in this sector is unsurpassed.
But more importantly than that, Doug, you're a very good man And we're all better people for having had the opportunity to get to know you and to work with you over the years. And I, for 1, am going to miss you greatly. I know we're going to have a chance to visit here sometime in March, but look, I just want to on behalf of the whole Valero team, I think we just want to wish you the best and I'll tell you, thanks for everything you've done for the industry over the years.
Well, Joe, thank you too. I mean, you guys have been capital management Leaders, especially in this industry, your stock reflects it over time and you all are good guys too. And so you've been a really easy management team for me to support over the decades. And so I just want to thank you for your leadership and really enjoyed our time together. And so you guys pat yourselves on the back because you deserve the performance that
Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Phil Gresh with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning. Tough follow-up.
Well, hey, Phil, you're still a young guy. You'll get yours Okay. But it probably won't be from me.
I guess I'll follow-up on
one part of Doug's Question there just on the differential side, you talked a lot about the product margin element, differentials, Still pretty tight here, especially like on light heavy. So how do you guys see that playing out for the rest of the year?
Yes, Phil, this is Gary. I think we have seen very narrow crude quality differentials. In order to get those to widen out, We need more OPEC barrels on the market. If you look at most consulting forecasts, they're showing global oil demand growing to the point where you'll need at least 3,000,000 barrels a day of additional OPEC production online by the end of the year. And so I think our view is probably the back half of the year is where you'll see Quality differentials begin to widen now.
I think that's further supported by if you look at the high sulfur fuel oil forward curve, We're a high sulfur fuel have been trading around 90% of Brent. You look to the back half of the year and it gets more to 80% of Brent, which is more indicative that we'll see those quality differentials Slide now, again, kind of second half of the year.
Got it. Okay. And then second question, just trying to Think through the capital spending cadence over these next few years with Phase 3 of Diamond Green Diesel. Obviously, you talked about a $2,000,000,000 spending level for 2021 being able to hold despite still I'm spending for Phase 2. So as you look out to 'twenty two and 'twenty three, do you think you can do the Phase 3 project within 2,000,000,000 or so capital budget as well.
I'm just trying to gauge the free cash flow potential as we see refining margins recover and DGT EBITDA come on.
Phil, this is Lane. So we did about $2,000,000,000 last year, actually a little bit less than that to maintain our pace on spending On Diamond 2 and developing Diamond 3 and we believe that we can continue to do that if for whatever reason that The world's the cash is a little bit lower. Obviously, we want to get back to some other things at some point, but we can certainly maintain our spend on renewable diesel With our capital budget at a $2,000,000,000 level.
Yes. And Phil, just to I mean, from a broader strategic perspective, This $2,000,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 number is our target going forward, okay? I don't think you should expect that we're going to go out and spend $3,000,000,000 In a year. So, we've said that timing of capital spend isn't necessarily calendar year spending. And so some years it might be less than $2,000,000,000 as it was this year, in some years, it's going to be a little bit more than $2,000,000,000 But the target range for us remains net $2,000,000,000 to $2,500,000,000 range, and I think it will stay in this $2,000,000,000 range through 2021.
Yes.
Got it. Okay. Thanks so much.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Prashant Rao with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, thanks for taking the question. Good morning all.
Good morning, Scott.
I just wanted to follow-up on The RD market and its evolution, particularly outside of BTC, outside of B4 RINs, which I Other people are going to ask, but I'm curious about the LCFS market in California and some of the other provincial and regional opportunities that we've talked about. I wanted to get your thoughts specifically in California. It seems like there's a lot of competing sources of capital. This pandemic has progressed capital towards sort of emerging energy. And while they're small now, there's a possibility for a little bit more electrification, Renewable gas, other competing sources for that credit or for diesel substitutes in California.
I was just wondering given the supply coming online with Port Arthur and your longer term plans, how do you see that playing out in California? Is it fair to say that by the time DGD3 is up online, There might be a more meaningful opportunity outside of the California LCFS. And how do you see the pace of that over the next few years? The other part of that also being, Do you expect that California could reduce they could increase the emissions reduction target, which would just then move the goalposts and create a greater opportunity? So There's a lot of pieces moving there, but the market's changed quite a bit since we were talking about this pre COVID.
So I just wanted to get an update on how you see those moving parts playing out?
Sure. Prashant, this is Martin. On California, obviously, the market's been pretty stable as far as the carbon price the last few years. And then the renewable diesel is the largest carbon generator. You step outside California, I'll Answer that part first.
What we expect to happen in the next few years is the clean fuel standard to be in place in Canada By the end of 2022, that will bring incremental demand in 2023. We've also got legislation in New York State in Washington State for LCFS programs. We think those states will implement LCFS over the next few years. Timing of that is hard or impossible to predict, but we expect that's going to happen. Today, we sell to California, but we also sell to Canada and Europe.
So, I mean, you're right, there's some electricity penetration, there's renewable natural gas, Still renewable diesel is the largest carbon credit generator. We don't expect that to change in the foreseeable future. As far as the trucking, that's going to continue. Renewable diesel obviously is huge in that. California, if you look at their projections, they're heading for 2,030, their internal projections are like a 40% Blend rate for renewable diesel, we honestly think it might even be higher than that.
So there's really there's no blend ball. There's nothing To stop this, we're optimistic about demand in California and we're optimistic about demand in other parts of the globe.
Thanks, Martin. And just a follow-up on that. Recently, we've been hearing in the headlines, there's been some in the financial community who talk about, I've been saying advocating for a need for a higher carbon price in order to incentivize the move to emissions reduction. Obviously, California has had a higher per ton price than other parts of the developed world. But do you think that is it too early to say that there's some maybe That gives the $200 per ton carbon price in California a little bit more legs to be sustainable if the rest of the world is going to come up or Do you see sort of a meeting in the middle?
How do you see that evolving, given where the narrative and where the discussion is right now?
Yes, I'd say, first thing, you have to be a little careful looking at the absolute price because it depends on whether it's a low carbon fuel standard or a carbon tax. You get a lot different carbon prices in those different regimes. But I think what California, they've obviously They're okay with $200 and they're okay with that escalated by the CPI each year. If things happen where that price started going down, So I would expect California to move the goalpost and make it harder. We're looking at a carbon reduction of 20% by 2,030 now, but If you started having a carbon price go down a lot of credits, I think they're going to move the gold folks because that's the objective, right?
Yes, Makes sense. Thank you. Appreciate the time. Thank
you. Our next question comes from the line of Manav Gupta with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Hey guys, in the energy industry, what we generally see is projects getting delayed by 6 months or 12 months. You're doing something unique. DGD is starting up 6 months before expectations. Just trying to understand from the perspective of engineering, feedstock procurement, How are you able to achieve startup before time in this case?
Well, hey, Manav, this is Lane. So we obviously We're very, very focused on this project and we did accelerate this. If you look at our spend, we spent more or less actually budgeted To try to keep to try to as we are executing that project to find every step we can optimize and accelerate its schedule And not do so by accelerating the cost of the project either. So as you've mentioned, we have worked it really, really hard because it is such a good And it is a big cash flow generator for us. So it's really we have expertise in terms of project execution, we understand.
And Diamond 3 is essentially a Duplicate of Diamond 2 and with a few revisions here and there, but it's largely so we've been able to accelerate that project as well. And we just because of our focus, we put our best people on making sure that project moves along as fast as it can.
A quick follow-up here is, obviously, wind prices have moved up. I'm trying to understand how does startup of DJT-two And then following up PGG3 actually cut your RVO obligation, which could give us some idea what the RVO obligation is right now and then how much lower Does it go once both the BDD phases are online?
Sorry. So we're looking, Madam, to see if Martin
I think what you have to think about there, Manav, is you've got the obligation, but you've got a lot of factors right now. And RIN prices Right now, I'm probably more influenced by the SRE and the Supreme Court and what the EPA is going to do. I don't know that it's really so much about the fundamentals as uncertainty at this point.
It doesn't change our renewable
No, that's right. Yes. So it doesn't change our renewable volume obligation at all. And I agree with Martin, the uncertainty Around SREs and just what will happen under Biden's administration is really what's causing the RINs prices to surge.
Thank you for taking my questions.
You bet.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Theresa Chen with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning. I wanted to follow-up on the renewable diesel side. So in terms of feedstocks, In a quarter where feedstock costs seem to have risen sharply and with planned maintenance at the facility, your capture was still very high. Can you talk about how you were able to achieve that? Is that sustainable?
If there were any one time factors that Might have benefited the quarter and going forward as we think over the long term about feedstock costs, just given the onslaught of projects that are under development, but to Manav's Even if not all of them will meet the timeframe and capacity as originally planned, the absolute supply of renewable diesel will likely increase and thus increasing competition for feedstocks. And as such, do you see a shift in the type of feedstocks versus what you're currently using?
Okay. Sure. Soybean oil was up 17% in 4th quarter versus 3rd quarter. But as you noted, our EBITDA per gallon margins were
If you look back
in the past 3 years on renewable diesel, we've experienced wide swings in feedstock costs, RINs prices, D4 RINs, ULSV prices, obviously, a huge swing there. However, our annual margins have been very consistent ranging from 2.19 a gallon in 2018 is a low to a high of 2.37 a gallon in 2020. So you can see that the earnings power is there and consistent kind of regardless and that's because the market works to compensate. Fat prices go up, the RIN goes up anyway. So it all kind of works in concert there.
So Long term or the next foreseeable future, let's say, we're not concerned with sourcing feedstocks. We believe our margin history is a good indicator of what Then if you look to, so what happened with the soybean price, well soybean price is driven by global supply and demand of veg oils. Palm oil prices were first to move up because production growth slowed in Indonesia and Malaysia due to a drought and COVID-nineteen, Lack of labor to harvest the palm. Now you've got soybean production is pretty tight this year, just worry about a lower crop down in Brazil. Soybean oil production is going to be impacted.
You've got the kind of the whole ag commodity index moving up, so that's moving up soybean oil too. And then finally, veg oil pricing was low as compared to ULSD in 2018 2019. So we expected some upward movement Relative to ULSD, in response to this, more vegetable oil will be produced in response to higher prices. We don't see a long term sustainable shift in vegetable oil pricing relative to low sulfur diesel.
Thank you. And on the broader topic of energy transition, since the Biden administration took office and made a series of very aggressive climate related policy announcements. Can you talk about how this How you think this plays out for the industry in general from the perspective of CAFE standards, emissions, EV penetration, renewable fuels, etcetera? And particularly what you think the next step will be?
Yes, sure. And we'll tag team this. I mean, Rich Walsh can cover kind of the policy side of this. We have seen and we've seen it for some time now, the headlines are all focused on EVs, right? And Everyone takes that into consideration when they're looking at the long term outlook for oil demand going forward.
And we just need to continue to look at the facts and keep EV sales last year made up slightly less than 2% of domestic car sales, just around 4% globally. And I think if you look forward to developing countries, their focus is a whole lot less on climate change in EVs than it is in Feeding their people and providing safe and affordable housing for them. So there's a lot going on politically, but the reality is that Cleaner fuels are going to be part of the future, EVs will be part of the future, but it's far from The internal combustion engine is far from being extinct. And so that's one thing that we have to all keep in mind, I think, as we go forward. We're still selling a Tremendous amount of internal combustion engines that are more efficient and our industry has done a fine job of working projects and adjusting operations to reduce the carbon intensity of the products that we're producing.
And frankly, Valero, as you know, He's doing a lot of that with the renewable diesel projects that we've undertaken. We're also doing it with Carbon sequestration around our ethanol business, we're looking at hydrogen and so on. So anyway, there's a lot going on here, and I think we'll continue to see overall The carbon intensity of traditional fuels, liquid fuels go down. And honestly, you can tell from our IR deck that Already, we're very competitive from a renewable diesel perspective with an EV, and I think you'll see that continue to increase. So I'll stop there.
Rich, on the policy side.
Yes. I mean, Joe's right. I mean, we of course, You see a lot of headlines on it. I mean, look, yesterday, they came out with an announcement on moving the federal fleet to EVs. But we point out that very similar to the order that the executive order Obama issued in 2015 mandating that half the fleet become EVs.
We didn't see a lot of movement in the federal fleet to EVs under that order. And it's a lot more difficult Then you think to do that. The other thing that I would really like to emphasize is, our renewable diesel can drop in today and on a Lifecycle basis outperforms an equivalent diesel electric truck. So we can help The administration addressed this climate issue straight away. His order did call for clean and 0 emission vehicles and ours are certainly The other thing I'd point out, even in that order, you have to read the fine print, it requires that it be made in America and meet the federal procurement standards.
And I'm not sure there's a lot of electric vehicles that can meet those requirements, but our renewable diesel is 100% American made and it's ready to go now. So We actually think that a lot of this will be in the end, the economics are overwhelming for our products And they're ready to go now. So we think we can work with the administration. We think there is going to be demand and policy drivers for Lower carbon fuels, but we think that's a good thing for us.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Doug Leggate with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks. Good morning, everybody. And Joe, Happy New Year. I think it's the first time you've spoken this year.
Yes, it is, Doug. Thank you. Happy New Year.
Well, when I heard Doug in repositioning earlier, I thought I was looking over my shoulder thinking someone hadn't told me something, but you
may be a little nervous.
But anyway, I'll say the
same. Congrats to
you, Doug.
Well, we passed our congrats along to Doug. He's left me as the oldest analyst in the sector, So I'm not sure I'm grateful for that, but selvede. Anyway, so guys, two questions, please. I actually just want to start with a quick housekeeping question. Homer mentioned the $1,000,000,000 cash tax refund, not immaterial obviously.
I just wanted to double check. Is that a one off Oliver, any other retrospective cash tax losses you can bring forward?
This is Mark Smeltekoff. That is a one off item. Obviously, it relates to our 2020 tax NOL that's being carried back to 2015 and that's Only significant item like that.
Okay. I just wanted to double check. Thank you. My follow-up, Joe, is probably a little bit more, I guess, it's a more high level. You've talked a lot about EVs.
I love that slide in your latest deck about the myth. I'm just curious, the carbon sector on your ethanol business. Where does that sit on the potential carbon capture on the refining business? Is that something you're I'm just curious as to how you address what your next steps are and what's already been some favorable significant moves to resist Carbon footprint of your fuels, just what should we expect from Valero next in that regard?
So, Doug, this is Lane. I'll take
a shot at that.
The reason we choose some of these projects like the ethanol plants, it has to do with the gas that's coming off that Plant is largely carbon dioxide. So it's we aren't having to further treat it before we find a way to sequester it. So We're trying to understand that, how that works and try to understand the technology and not certainly all the policy and all the other For the regulatory regime, there's going to be around carbon sequestration. So it's a good place for us to really start and develop projects around it. The other way that we can do this is with our blue and green hydrogen.
We're gating projects on that, that also affects The carbon intensity of our transportation fuels, some of which we've done, smaller ones, but we are certainly getting some larger ones that will make our Transportation fuels, depending on what market we can target them in, we'll obviously be of help With the overall competitiveness from a carbon intensity perspective, it will help us. So those are all those are the things that we're looking at. But I think, again, we're trying to hit From a carbon sequestration perspective, we're trying to hit streams that we see that are lower than carbon dioxide on that gas and maybe It's something that's been combusted. It has a lot of other stuff in it like basically nitrogen and some other things. All right, guys.
I'll ask
my 2, so I'll be respectful to everyone else. I'll see you all in March. Thanks again.
Thanks, Doug.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Roger Read with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Yes, thanks. Good morning.
Hi, Roger.
Guys, I guess, two questions. I want to follow-up on your introductory comments, And the second one is a follow-up to some of the questions Theresa was asking about renewable diesel feedstock. So the first one On the global capacity kind of expectation of future shutdowns, just curious how you see that unfolding, maybe where you See that unfolding, any particular trigger points? And then on the renewable diesel feedstock, specific to Your Phase 2 and your Phase 3 plans here that will roll out in 'twenty one and 'twenty three or end of 'twenty one and then in 'twenty three, How comfortable you are in terms of your line of sight to the necessary feedstocks in terms of the geographic Gulf Coast focus you have?
Okay. So which one of you guys wants to talk about the first one, the closures?
I guess that will be me. Hey, Roger, it's Lane. We talked about Hey, so we've talked about this a little bit on some of the prior earnings calls. First, we've seen about 3,000,000 barrels a day of refining closures. I think that we've been, I don't know, I want to say pleasantly surprised, but certainly surprised at the acceleration of some of these closures.
Interestingly, a lot of it's occurred in the United States. I think that's a little bit of But we've kind of done, I would say, our share or at least it doesn't mean that you won't have further closures potentially in the Atlantic Basin On this side of the pond or maybe on the West Coast, but certainly we've so for now the United States has done, I think, about 800,000 to 900,000 barrels a day of announced I think when you look at trade flow though, where the closures, you could look for the closures going forward is primarily Europe, Particularly Southern Europe, they don't really have access to an advantaged crude. They're more aggressive on with respect to their transition away from transportation, Fossil fuels. So I think that's where you'll see more and more that'll be where you'll see more closures going forward.
Mark, you
want to take the second hand? Sure.
On the feedstocks, Roger. Right now, what we're looking at line of sight to 2023, we feel very good It's about procuring these waste feedstocks that we need. If you look at it now in the United States as far as used cooking oil production And Metallo production, they're large. U. S.
Is the biggest around that. And that comes with GDP per capita plus established rendering operations and everything else. So we feel good about that into the future. If you look, the U. S.
Is the place to be, the installed base of renewable diesel is still pretty small, especially the guys that are running the waste feedstock, the And there's plenty of waste feedstock to still procure. As you look farther down the road, you get past 2025 out to 2,030, We expect to see quite a bit of growth in used cooking oil production and the animal rendering. And a lot of that's going to come from Asia at that point This is where the population growth is, but historically, these waste feedstocks growth has been pretty significant and we expect that to continue. So Line of side up through BGD 2 and 3, we don't see a problem.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Hey, Roger. We just I wanted to compliment you on your recent piece of work on the EV expansion in oil demand. That was well done, very thoughtful
and well done. And I
would encourage everybody, if you Well done. And I would encourage everybody, if you haven't seen it, to take a look at it.
I appreciate that. And sometimes when people have referred to me as a piece of work, it wasn't a compliment. So
Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.
I have two questions Maybe this is for Joe. I mean, Ning was earlier talking about Europe, maybe more facility is So how we should look at the government policy and everything and put it into PAM books? And that how are we going to position on the longer term? So that's the first question. And second question that At some point, the pandemic will open, it will generate free cash again.
And at that point, when we're looking at Your financial strategy, you have had several $1,000,000,000 debt for this pandemic. We assume that you're going to First, trying to pay it down, but after the pandemic, looking forward, will the company take a more conservative approach and even Do I sound the debt ratio much below the pre pandemic level? Thank you.
That's good, Paul. Okay, I'll let Jason take the second part, and you directed the first one to me. Relative to Pembroke, and Lane, you chime in on this too, and Rich Walsh, but When you look at Pembroke, it supplies domestic demands within the UK and it also supplies Ireland and Other countries, so we do export out of Pembroke, we bring fuels to Canada when we need them out of Pembroke and so on. And It's one thing for politicians to come out and lay down a hard line and say that they're going to do something. But there's human beings In that country, as there are in our country, who have purchased internal combustion engine vehicles, And they have an opportunity to weigh in on these issues and these decisions going forward.
So Paul, I think we all get Very concerned when we hear these things, but if you just go back historically and look at how things play out, they don't always turn out exactly the way that we Fear, okay. It's usually never as bad as we think and never as good as we think. And I think that's certainly the case here. But We have a clear focus on Pembroke, and Lane and his team are working on different options and different projects that are So Rich, anything you guys would add
to that? No, I mean, I think you said it really well. If you look at like if Just take a look at, say, California, you saw in their early announcements, they were very aspirational about how they were going Drive down carbon and we all see directionally efforts to move in this way and you're going to see increased electrification in these countries. But As you get closer to these deadlines, what you tend to see is that the practicalities of this start to have an effect and then they tend to move the target And reset the goals. And so, right now, there's a big drive on this and the costs and the consequences of it Will start to play out and it will influence the policy going forward.
I think that's the
best way I can describe it.
Paul and Al, this is Lane. I'll say one thing. When we were talking about the key to that trade flow and what we've always thought it was more Southern Europe that's going to be more exposed Did closures just because of where they're located in Europe and where the trade flow on crude is?
Jason, do you want to take the financing?
Yes, sure. I mean, you're correct. One of our more immediate goals We're paying down some of the extra debt we've taken on during the pandemic. And as far as like our base assumption on debt to cap is 20%, 30% debt, but we are in a very dynamic time, right? We have energy transition going.
We're growing our renewable diesel business. We're aggressively looking at other technologies. So exactly how we end up participating in it and the capital needs of these new businesses, they dictate a different Structure, we're open to looking at things and we recognize we're in a very dynamic time, which is exciting and We're not wed to that. We'll keep our minds open and see as things evolve.
Thank you.
Take care, Paul.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Todd with Simmons Energy. Please proceed with your question.
Good. Thanks. Maybe one quick follow-up on the renewable side. Sustainable Sorry. Sustainable Aviation Fuel is clearly going to play, I think, a large role In this mix going forward over the longer term, it's very small at this point.
Can you talk a little bit about
what you see as kind of the necessary steps To ramp
up the sustainable aviation fuel market and how your renewable diesel facilities are positioned to be able to produce it?
Sure. This is Martin. I think the necessary step to ramp it up is really some you're going to have to get some mandates To require the use of it across the globe, right now, it's out there. Is it going to happen? We feel pretty confident it's It's a big question of when.
The modifications required at a plant that's producing renewable diesel to produce Sustainable aviation fuel, they're significant, but they aren't huge. So, we could pivot there when we need to pivot there. We're obviously keep paying close attention to that and doing engineering on options, but it's really about getting some Mandated volume out there.
Okay. Thanks. And then maybe Just one, I mean, you touched on parts of this earlier, but maybe just an overall follow-up on refining capture. I mean, you talked about how Headline margins have balanced here recently. It feels like capture has stayed kind of Stubbornly low on the refining side for the entire industry.
Can you talk to me how you see some of those trends playing out over the Course of the year, it sounds like maybe you expect RIN pricing to soften up some and differentials to widen out a little bit. Any thoughts on how and the timing of that
Hey, Ryan, this is Gary. I think the key for us is we pride ourselves on our ability to optimize our Refining system, especially on the feedstock side of the business and with the very narrow crude quality differentials, it's been challenging to do that. So, You get to the second half of the year and more OPEC production on the market, potential easing of Venezuelan sanctions, potential easening of Iranian sanctions, all those things will allow us to do more optimization on the feedstock side. And as we do that, our capture rates would go up.
Great. Thanks guys.
Thanks, Robert.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Benny Wong with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my question and I hope you're all well. Hey, Joe. In your prepared remarks, you highlighted Your international strategy moving forward with the Veracruz terminal now started. Just curious if you can give us an update on the demand and margin Look, you're seeing in LatAm generally and maybe in Mexico specifically, wanted to get a sense in terms of where they are in
Yes. This is Gary. As Joe mentioned, we did put the Veracruz terminal online at the end of the year. We have both gasoline and diesel In tankage and Barracrues today, we're still doing some commissioning activity. So, we expect to have the truck rack operational in the next couple of weeks.
Overall, our volumes for the quarter in Mexico were a little over 40,000 barrels a day. That's an increase of about year over year 145%. So, good growth in the country. However, from the Q3 to Q4, we were down about 10%. The mobility data we see in Mexico's mobility was down about 20%.
So it still indicates we're continuing to gain market share, But we did see a big hit in mobility in Mexico and we saw that reflected in our volumes. Moving forward, we anticipate that the inland terminals Associated with the Veracruz Marine Terminal, probably come online early 2nd quarter, 1 in Puebla and 1 in Mexico City. And that's really where you'll start to see our volumes ramp up as those inland terminals come on. Our goal is to get to about 80,000 barrels a day in that central system. The other thing that the Vericruz terminal does is it takes a lot of cost out of our supply chain.
So in addition to the ramp up in volumes, we would also expect See wider margins on the volume of selling in country.
Great. Thanks, guys. That was all my questions. Appreciate the time.
Thanks, Benny.
Thank you. Our next Question is coming from the line of Sam Margolin with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.
Hello. Good morning, everyone. My question is on the operating side. Your first quarter throughputs are sort of flat quarter over quarter, at least And so I'm just wondering, as we kind of enter this recovery phase and like you said, crack spreads are even starting to pick up a little bit here Concurrently with demand, how do you balance what you see on the commercial side With your operating rates, how much you want to ramp utilization versus what your assessment is of what the market can tolerate and various sort of commodity scenarios. I'm just curious how you work through that as you think about utilization.
Hey, Sam, this is Lane. I'll take a shot and maybe Gary can follow-up if anything. We're certainly positioned in the Gulf Coast. If things recover quicker, then our rates could be higher. But we're trying to be we're obviously being very careful in trying to not get our supply line chain very extended.
So We have strategies around that, trying to think about, make sure that we don't have a lot of pricing exposure and trying to position our assets Sort of in a conservative posture just to make sure that we're well positioned going into this, but we can certainly raise rates If we see things getting better.
Yes, and I would just tack on to that. I think the key for us is looking at it and especially If we're able to ramp up utilization and it results in higher exports and we have good margin to do that, we feel comfortable raising utilization.
Okay, thanks. And then one follow-up, if I might, just on an energy transition theme, and specifically EVs, there's Yes. A certain amount of petroleum products that are in EVs along with sort of other materials and processes that are associated with the energy transition. So the question is you guys can make anything, but they might not be things you're focused on today, but you weren't We're focused on renewable diesel until you figured out the right way to build and structure that business. So looking out Over the horizon, maybe not over the immediately investable horizon, how do you think about the potential to kind of remix Your product streams into things like specialty chemicals or other materials that are sort of more thematic, if not necessarily today over your investment hurdles?
Thank you.
So Sam will take it. This is Lane. We've looked quite a bit of diversifying in the petrochemicals. We continue to look at it. We have a it's just It hasn't met our gating threshold.
So we would but we're going to continue to look at it because obviously it's something that we could do. It's not too far out of our wheelhouse To do, but so far when we do a lot of these things, we haven't found them to be better than some of our other projects. For example, renewable diesel projects, right? I mean, In a world where we're going to put money, we that's the day that's where we put our money instead of sort of petrochemical path. But it doesn't mean that we are not with or close to the idea that Certainly, we like our investments in sort of this lower this carbon transition in terms of trying to lower the carbon intensity of transportation fuels.
Thanks so much.
Thanks, Sam.
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