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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 25, 2021

Speaker 1

Welcome to the Williams Sonoma, Inc. 2nd Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. We This call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr.

Brian Yee, Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Good afternoon. This call should be considered in conjunction with the press release that we issued earlier today. Unless indicated otherwise, our discussion today will relate to results and guidance based on certain non GAAP measures. A reconciliation of the non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures This call also contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, which address the financial condition, results of operations, business initiatives, trends, Growth plans and prospects of the company in 2021 and beyond and are subject to risks and uncertainties That could cause actual results to differ materially from such forward looking statements.

Please refer to the company's current press release and SEC filings, including the most recent 10 ks for more information on these risks and uncertainties. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise Any forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. I will now turn the conference call over to Laura Holler, our President and Chief Executive Officer.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Brian. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you all for joining us. We are proud to report another quarter of outperformance with a 30% comp, Strong growth across all brands and channels and 360 basis points of operating margin expansion. These 2nd quarter results demonstrate the success of our growth strategies and the earnings power of our company.

We have an advantage in our industry due to our in house design capability our channel strategy, which is digital first but not digital only and our values With sustainability and equity underlying all that we do. Our teams have proven their ability to move with agility And to execute against macro complexities while building for the future and improving the environment for our customers, our communities and our associates. The momentum we are seeing in our business and our winning positioning set us up to continue to take share in a fractured market. We do not see any evidence that growth trends are waning. And in fact, we see favorability in the macro environment as more people prioritize their homes and home decor.

We believe we are at the intersection of a transformative change that will accelerate the growth of our industry and our market share within the industry. Home sales in 2021 are expected to grow more than 20%, the most sales recorded since 2,005. The acceptance of remote work is gaining traction with the number of remote hybrid workers expected to nearly double in 5 years from pre COVID metrics. In addition, our growth strategies are gaining traction faster than we predicted and our key differentiators are further distancing us from our competition. Therefore, we see a clear path to beating our previous revenue and profitability targets, and we are raising our full year revenue outlook again, With revenue growth now expected to be in the high teens to low 20s and operating margins now expected to be in the range of 16% to 17%.

Given our increased optimism, we now expect to achieve our long term goal of $10,000,000,000 in revenues in 2024, 1 year faster than previously expected and with higher profitability, which will now be at or above our increased FY 2021 operating margins. Now I'd like to talk in more detail about why our model stands out from the competition. First, our positioning. Our customers shop with us Because we design high quality and sustainable products that are engineered for value. Our platform of loved brands allows us to serve customers We're looking for quality and sustainable products at a great value across a wide range of aesthetics and scale.

The home furnishings market is extremely fragmented. Our addressable market is $780,000,000,000 And we currently only own approximately 1%. As the disruption from brick and mortar to online continues,

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first advantage built from decades of investments into our technology, supply chain and digital marketing infrastructure Only further distinguish us from competition and competitors that are retail dominant. And relative to the other strong online players in the market, our model is the only one with an exclusive product line and a high service model. 2nd, our growth strategies are working and the new opportunities generated from these initiatives are incremental to our business today. From our existing brands, we have a long runway to expand our reach with existing and new customers. In West Elm, We are expanding into product white space and accelerating our presence both online and through new stores to drive our brand awareness from 20% to 60%.

These growth initiatives will fuel our goal of growing this brand to $3,000,000,000 of revenues by 2024. In the Powder Barn brands, we expect to reach nearly $5,000,000,000 by 2024 by driving incremental growth in categories such as upholstery, bath, baby and dorm. And our new updated aesthetic is resonating with both existing customers And a younger demographic of customers that are in the household formation mode. Williams Sonoma is transforming their model to reach new customers With a higher penetration of e commerce and a winning new store model supported with more product exclusive products. And we have a substantial growth opportunity to take share in the high end market with Williams Sonoma Home.

Rejuvenation and Mark and Graham, with both having aggressive and profitable e commerce growth in underserved categories will further drive market share gains as they scale. Additionally, we have accelerators to our core business such as B2B, Which is positioned to disrupt an underserved industry and further diversify our customer profile. B2B is now on track to reach almost $700,000,000 by this year's end, which is well ahead of our growth goals To grow this business to at least $2,000,000,000 Our global business, which is led by our capital light franchise model, allows us to move into markets faster And more profitably and is targeted to become at least a $700,000,000 business by 2024. Our cross brand initiatives, which are supported by our best in class marketing effectiveness teams and loyalty programs Like our new cross brand credit card and growing key program are driving incremental growth within our brands. And finally, our design services, both online and in store, we have built an ecosystem of design tools, We already see the investments we have made in this technology paying off as large ticket orders and cross brand orders Continue to grow and as return rates continue to come down.

The competitive advantage we are creating with our service model And tools will continue to grow into the future led by our technology talent and digital first and service mindset. In summary, the amplified power of all these factors, I. E. The macro, our winning positioning and our growth drivers provides an overwhelming case for outsized returns into the future. Now as it relates to Q2, I would like to give you a few highlights, Which foretell the opportunity I outlined above.

Our growth this quarter was driven across all brands and channels. E Commerce grew at 12% And retail drove a 98 comp with both channels, growing at a 2 year comp of over 50. And we delivered these sales more profitably with operating margins expanding another 360 basis points to 16.7% versus last year at 13.1%. In Pottery Barn, we drove an almost 30 comp in the 2nd quarter. All categories are outperforming with notable strength in our indoor rustic modern casual point of view and in our outdoor business.

We're also building momentum in our brand partnerships And our new business initiatives including marketplace, apartment and bath renovation, which are all growing above 30%. Our early fall results are strong with inspiring collections across categories. In Body Barn Kids and Teen, GreenGuard Gold Furniture, record setting results in our back to school business and over 30% growth in our baby business. We saw an exceptional customer response to our expansion of personalized backpacks, new recycled fabrications And reusable eco friendly food storage and water bottles as well as our new baby registry app. We're also seeing a very strong response to our Halloween launch, which should indicate a strong back half of the year with all the seasonal celebrations and gifting to come.

In West Elm, our momentum continues to build with a 51 comp for the 2nd quarter. We saw strength across all categories with triple digit growth in our upholstery and outdoor furniture businesses. We've expanded our year round outdoor assortment and our new product collections and line extensions. New categories such as bath, Kitchen and West Elm Kids are also fueling incremental growth for the brand. Our fall season is off to a strong start With continued strength across all categories and an exceptional response to our new opening price points, line extensions And new introductions.

In the Williams Sonoma brand, we drove another strong quarter with a 6.4% comp On top of last year's 29.4 comp, powered by our content led marketing and a higher percentage of exclusive and Williams Sonoma branded products, While at the same time, substantially reducing promotional activity. We see strength across key categories And fall is off to a strong start. We're also very excited to share that our new store model is working. In Q2, We opened 3 new stores with our newly designed inspiring store design. These stores are lighter and brighter Clear destinations improving the shopping experience.

These stores are exceeding our forecast And they represent a material opportunity for us to strengthen the brand and drive more profitable retail results. As a reminder, we have nearly 50 of our Williams Sonoma stores up for renewal this year, which provides us the opportunity to materially improve profitability or close. Our Williams Sonoma home business continues to scale with our strategic reposition of the brand As a premium online furniture destination, our high end sustainable casual aesthetic is resonating with our high end customers In an underserved market, we saw triple digit demand comp in outdoor furniture, further validating our belief With the right assortment and digital presentation, the WS Home brand will be one of our biggest growth opportunities. Cross brand, our B2B division continues to accelerate with another record breaking quarter, up nearly 125% to over $100,000,000 in revenue. We continue to expand our portfolio of customers, which range from Fortune 500 Companies to Small Businesses.

Year to date, 71% of our sales have come from repeat customers and 50% of the B2B customers have shopped From more than one brand in our portfolio. We are a go to resource for our clients across a range of their purchasing needs From furniture to corporate gifting. In addition to the sales growth, we are continuing to make notable progress On our strategic initiatives to further accelerate the growth of this business. We continue to believe that our differentiators And our ability to tailor to our customers' unique needs will allow us to further disrupt this industry and gain market share. In addition to B2B, we are making progress migrating our customers across our brands.

As a reminder, cross brand customers We believe our brands offer an assortment that fulfills all rooms of the home with a product offering that is designed in house, made from sustainable materials and of the highest quality. At the core of the Crossbrand loyalty program is the key. Our free loyalty program that incents and rewards customers for shopping across our portfolio. We also recently announced our partnership with Capital One with a new cross brand credit card, which just launched and should further incentivize This cross shopping behavior. Now I'd like to discuss the power of our digital first advantage.

E commerce continues to drive our growth and profitability. Our in house tech platform and rapid experimentation program Continue to differentiate our customer shopping experience by improving speed, visibility to orders, Site personalization and selling capabilities. For example, as we mentioned last quarter, more customers are using our 3 d design tool, The Design Crew Room Planner, where we typically see 2 times as many sales as we do with our average customer. In the Q2, we saw even more usage. Plans created grew 35% over last year.

This engagement with our customers extends with great service and presentation in our stores and omni services, which complement our digital platform. This operating model allowed us to generate strong e commerce growth maintaining a 65% of our revenue mix, While delivering some of the highest retail growth we have seen on both a 1 year and 2 year basis. The cohesiveness of our websites, Stores and storytelling brings our products to life, improving our customers' ability to visualize and imagine our products in their homes. And with the evolving nature of shopping behaviors, the synergy from our digital first omni model have never felt more relevant. We are also proud to see quantifiable progress in our commitment to values, which is our 3rd key differentiator.

This quarter, we released our 2020 impact report detailing progress on our ESG goals. We are proud to have already exceeded many of our goals, including our use of responsibly sourced wood, our commitment to pay fair trade premiums to our workers And our goal to invest in education and empowerment for workers. By the end of 2021, we intend to keep 75% of our waste From stores, distribution centers and offices out of landfill. This year, we have also set new long term commitments, Which includes selling 75 percent of our products with labels aligning with our social or environmental initiatives, Significantly reducing our carbon footprint and sourcing 75% of our product purchases from suppliers with worker well-being programs. We believe our values of prioritizing the health of our planet, the well-being of our people And a shared sense of purpose to foster long term sustainability resonate with our customers and will drive positive change in our industry.

As we look forward to the second half of the year, we remain confident in our ability to continue taking market share. Our upcoming product pipeline is strong and we anticipate continued momentum across our entertaining and gifting related categories As we move into the holiday seasons, quarter to date, we continue to see strong top line growth and strong margins. As we look beyond this year, We have a clear path to drive top line and bottom line growth. Our operating model and our pricing power resulting from our key differentiators, Our in house design, our digital first channel and our values will set us apart from our competition And allow us to drive long term growth and profitability. And this is why we have raised our full year long term outlook and have announced Another quarterly dividend increase and a new increased share buyback program.

Before I pass the call to Julie, I want to thank our team for their incredible commitment and hard work. Their energy, creativity and integrity are the pillars for the outstanding performance And with that, I would now like to pass the call over to Julie to discuss our financial results in more detail.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Laura, and good afternoon, everyone. The continuation of our strong top line growth at record profitability levels was validated again with another quarter of Our second quarter results reflect the power of our operating model and our 3 key differentiators. We are one of the only companies with an exclusive in house design capability combined with a channel strategy that is digital first, but not digital only, And that leads with sustainability and values across our business and in the communities where we work. All of this is becoming increasingly more important Net revenues grew over 30 percent to approximately $1,950,000,000 with comparable brand revenue growth of 29.8% and 40.3% on a 2 year stack. Growth was broad based starting with West Elm with a record comp of 51.1%, Which was an acceleration from the Q1 and an over 58% comp on a 2 year basis.

Pottery Barn, our largest brand, Delivered almost $750,000,000 of revenue with a 29.6% comp and an almost 38% 2 year comp. Pottery Barn Kids and Teens drove another quarter of double digit comps at 18% and an almost 23% comp on a 2 year basis. In the Williams Sonoma brand, comps were 6.4% on top of the highest prior year compare of a 29.4% comp, resulting in an almost 36% 2 year comp. Our emerging brands, Rejuvenation and Mark and Graham combined Accelerated to a 42.3% comp and an almost 58% comp on a 2 year basis. And our global business Grew almost 50% to approximately $116,000,000 Moving down the income statement, we saw another quarter of substantial gross margin expansion of 7 10 basis points to 44%.

Our selling margins drove 500 basis points of this expansion, which was an acceleration from the Q1. It is evident our strategic decision to materially pull back on promotions is proving to be viable even with tougher compares. The fact that the products we sell are proprietary, high quality and sustainable and are engineered for value enables us the pricing power to provide product low occupancy dollar growth. Occupancy costs were approximately $176,000,000 or flat to the Q1. Year over year occupancy costs grew 5.9%, primarily due to several rent abatements that were recorded last year during the Q2.

The occupancy benefits we are seeing from our rent pre negotiations and the net closure of 33 stores at the end of 2020 has enabled us to minimize occupancy dollar growth and deliver this leverage. And we expect this benefit to continue based on our plan to close approximately 25% of our fleet

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over the next

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5 years.

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SG and A in the 2nd quarter was 27.3 percent of net revenues compared to 23.9% last year, The lowest Q2 SG and A rate we have had outside of last year, where we have substantially reduced our spend across the business in response to COVID and particularly in advertising. As a result, the year over year deleverage is primarily in advertising where we have made incremental investments to drive our profitable top line growth market share gains. Given the strength in our business, we have made a strategic decision to incrementally invest in high ROI advertising to drive new customer acquisition and to drive our growth in the back half and beyond. We see this as a competitive advantage as we are able to make these investments and still drive record profitability levels At a time where this may not be possible for others, and it is paying off with record new customer counts, including e commerce customers growing almost 30% On a 2 year basis, the highest growth we have seen. We are pleased to see that despite these incremental costs, our overall cost discipline throughout SG and A allowed us to hold our rate at a pre COVID historically low level helping to deliver another quarter of record profitability.

Operating income grew to a record $326,000,000 resulting in an operating margin of 16.7%, expanding 360 basis points over last year. This resulted in diluted earnings per share of $3.24 up 80% from last year's record second quarter earnings per share of 1.80 On the balance sheet, liquidity levels remain strong. With $476,000,000 year to date in operating cash flow or more than double last year, We ended the quarter with $655,000,000 in cash after funding the operations of the business, paying off our term loan of $300,000,000 earlier this year and maximizing shareholder returns. During the Q2, we invested another $36,000,000 in capital expenditures and returned over $180,000,000 to shareholders the form of $45,000,000 in dividends $135,000,000 in share repurchases. Year to date, we have repurchased over $450,000,000 of our shares We're approximately 3 times our full year typical share buyback level, which reflects our confidence in the sustainability of our strong growth and profitability our commitment to maximizing returns for our shareholders.

Moving down the balance sheet, merchandise inventories, including inventory in transit, We're $1,171,000,000 for an increase of 12% over last year. However, our inventory on hand and available for sale still down to last year with a 2.5% decline. Our inventory levels have sequentially improved. However, they are not the levels we had expected at this time. We continue to be impacted by our stronger than expected demand across all brands as well as various supply chain disruptions, including industry wide container shortages coming out of Asia, delays due to COVID surges in Vietnam and Indonesia and a recent port closure in China.

And it's hard to predict with certainty when these supply chain challenges will be fully resolved. As a result, at this point, we expect back order levels to remain elevated with moderate improvements in our inventory levels through the balance of the year. Now let me turn to our expectations for the rest of the year and longer term. As Laura said, we are raising our 2021 outlook from low double digit to mid teen revenue growth to high teens to low 20s revenue growth with operating margins now projected to be in the range of 16% to 17%. We are confident in our ability to deliver this higher outlook given the strength of our business year to date, the accelerating momentum in our growth initiatives And the macro trends that will fuel our business for years to come.

As a result of our strong expectations for 2021 and beyond, we see an accelerated path growth and profitability longer term. We now believe we will hit our long term target of $10,000,000,000 in revenues by 2024 or 1 year earlier And with higher profitability holding at least at our further raised fiscal year 'twenty one operating margin. I would now like Why we are so confident in maintaining these operating margin levels? We believe we are best positioned to continue to deliver record level operating margins Despite increased raw materials, freight costs and distribution center labor for the following reasons: ongoing overall sales leverage, Including the additional accretion from our growth initiatives that have a higher operating margin an accelerating shift online where the operating margin profile is higher Continued occupancy leverage from the renegotiation of our lease agreements and further store closures. The pricing power in our merchandise margins Due to our differentiated product positioning with design led, value engineered and sustainable products, various supply chain efficiencies, including automation and in stock inventory levels And from a continued emphasis on overall strong financial discipline.

As far as our capital allocation in 2021, We are maintaining our balanced approach of first investing in the business and then returning excess cash to shareholders. We are on track to invest towards higher end of our range at approximately $250,000,000 in the business this year, with spend prioritized on technology and supply chain initiatives that primarily support our e commerce growth. Given the strength of our business and liquidity, we are taking this opportunity to aggressively pursue incremental investments in the business to support our long term elevated growth. We also plan to return excess cash to our shareholders in the form of further increased quarterly dividend payouts and an increased level of share repurchases. Year to date, we have paid $91,000,000 in dividends, a 15% increase and over $450,000,000 in share repurchases compared to no repurchases last year.

And today, given the strength in our business and our liquidity, we announced an additional quarterly dividend increase of 20% and a new share repurchase authorization to 1 As a result, we believe investing even more in our own stock will drive long term financial returns for our shareholders. In summary, our results in the Q2 further validate our ability to deliver sustainable strong growth and profitability. We believe we are uniquely positioned With the favorable long term macro trends, including a strong housing market driving ongoing investment in the home, the disruption of brick and mortar and an accelerating shift to e commerce, The increasing importance of sustainability and being a values driven company combined with our key differentiators, our accelerating growth initiatives, Our strong operating cash flow and liquidity and a proven track record of strong financial discipline, all of this will enable us to drive long term growth and profitability And strong financial returns for our shareholders for years to come. I would now like to open the call for questions. Thank you.

Speaker 1

And we'll take our first question from Adrienne Yih from Barclays.

Speaker 7

Another stunning quarter, so congratulations to the entire team. Thank you. You're welcome. So I guess, Julie, I'll start with you about this second quarter of 43% gross margin quarter 44% gross margin externally reported this quarter. If you can, can you help us how does that Kind of roll back up into merchandise margins relative to history and how much more room is there to the upside on pure merch margins?

And then Secondarily, wanted to AUC, right, so the average unit cost, any color on what that's up Maybe this quarter and does that get worse in the 3rd and 4th quarters as we've heard from many people? Thank you very much.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Adrienne. As far as merchandise margins, I think first of all, I want to remind everybody that we saw merch margin expansion back even in 2018. So this is something we've been working on, obviously not to this degree. We've had a fundamental shift in the company to substantially pull back on customer and of good value and allow us to not do as many sitewide promotions. And so that's a fundamental shift that we have now been pursuing Pretty aggressively for a while now.

And so we think this can continue. Will it continue at the same degree? Probably not. I would model that The same degree, we're very pleased to see continuing strong selling margin expansion from I think it was 400 last quarter to 500 this quarter. Obviously, we also are going to have some raw material price increases and freight cost increases, so that's going to put pressure on that line.

But I think the team has done an incredible job Managing through that and mitigating those costs, and because we're vertically integrated, we're better positioned than most to be able to do that. So we do think this is sustainable, but maybe not

Speaker 1

Thank you. We'll now take our next question from Christina Fernandez from the Telsey Advisory Group.

Speaker 8

Good afternoon and congratulations also on a strong quarter. Can you talk about how demand progressed through the quarter and any additional Color that you can give us about the Q3 so far?

Speaker 5

The demand was incredibly strong pretty much all quarter long. I mean, obviously, with these kinds of results, We've just had phenomenal top line performance. And as we said in our prepared remarks, we have not seen that wane. So we are very optimistic clearly and confident about the future of our business. And it's just even on top of these elevated compares, We're seeing strong growth with 40 comps both demand and net in Q1 and Q2 holding, and strong growth as we've entered the 3rd quarter.

Speaker 8

Thank you. And if I could ask a second question, thinking about the 16% to 17% operating margin longer term. What does that imply for the mix of the business between e commerce and retail? Does it No, need to stay at the current level.

Speaker 5

Well, we have assumed that e commerce will continue to grow. Obviously, we're pleased we're able to hold at 65% despite the fact that we have the retail recovery this year. And so that makes it a little bit Volatile, so to speak. But we're still holding at 65%. We've said before, we plan to at least grow it to 70%.

And so that's assumed within our numbers. But we have many opportunities to drive operating margin expansion and to be able to at least hold where we plan to come out in 2021. First, we'll have the ongoing sales leverage with additional accretion by the way from our growth initiatives, which I think is really important to understand that In B2B, in marketplace and in franchise, for example, they may have some pressure on the gross margin line, but they are incredibly accretive to the total company operating margin. So as those have an outsized growth potential, as we've seen, they will, by themselves, help with the operating margin expansion going forward. And then you have an accelerating shift to online, which has always been more profitable.

As you may recall, Back for years, we used to report that it was above a 20% operating margin, and it's even higher today, obviously, with the top line sales flow through. So As that shifts more and more online, we expect that to drive operating margin expansion. Continued occupancy leverage will drive that, Given the fact that we're still optimizing our retail fleet and we're renegotiating leases and we're closing less profitable stores, I think we've demonstrated that we've been able to do that And hold our operating costs down while we're driving top line. And then it's back to our pricing power, the fact that we Design our own product and engineer it for value that gives us a lot of leverage on the operating margin line, plus everything else from supply chain efficiencies and all kinds So all of that gives us the confidence to believe that we at least can hold the 16% to 17% for this year and then going forward as accelerated pace on the top line.

Speaker 1

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Curtis Nagle with Bank of America.

Speaker 6

Good afternoon or good evening. Thanks very much. So two quick ones. One just Out of curiosity thinking about, I'm not asking any questions on sort of the cadence or through the 3Q, but You guys have been working on registry, right, both for baby and weddings, Those businesses probably weren't in great shape last year. Thinking about as things are kind of opening up, How much has, I guess, wedding in particular started to help?

Or I guess, is it helping Just given, we finally are starting to see people get married again and actually celebrate. That's the first one. And then just Could you give any clarity in terms of, Julie, I think you'd mentioned that some investments or more investments were being made in marketing or advertising dollars. How should we think about that relative to 1Q or kind of, I guess, quarter year over year in 2Q?

Speaker 3

Yes, thanks. Let me start, it's Laura, with a question. I'm so glad you brought up wedding registry. I probably should have said it in my prepared remarks. It is phenomenal.

As As you can imagine, I mean, there weren't any weddings, now there are weddings. And we've I just asked Julie if I could tell you, we're up 90% In wedding register, I mean that's in the sales, that's a big number. And baby has been up the whole time. We have a new baby app, which is very successful. And we're learning that across all of our brands, the more time we spend on mobile, the better because it drives conversion and it's really Choice for our customers.

So you can see us do even more things with mobile and make it really help the selling proposition. But in those two Very important life stage buying opportunities. We're seeing tremendous growth and we're continuing to support it with technology. Likewise, these trends, as I said, hybrid work, and then the reality of people learned how to cook and they're still cooking and They love cooking and so we're continuing to see those businesses in Williams Sonoma that support those, whether it be coffee or Food at home, those businesses are quite strong for us today even though we had the big surge last year. And then the back to school, I mentioned Going back to school and the backpacks are a big part of that tradition.

And so, of course, that's a business that We've seen really strong growth in. And as we craft into the season of holidays, Halloween is tremendous. If anybody on the call You should buy it now because we're seeing a very strong fast curve. And I imagine That we'll see the same with Thanksgiving and Christmas, which was tough time for everybody last year and should be hopefully One where you can at least have small gatherings, if not more. So I think there's a lot of natural upside in life stage trends that we are going to be right there With our customers on appropriately to help them make the most of those.

So thanks for that question. And then I'll pass it over to Julie to answer the marketing advertising question.

Speaker 5

Yes. So as far as the advertising, we have said Certainly, we're going to be incrementally investing in advertising year over year. Last year, certainly, that was a big lever for us to pull back on. Q2 was Some of the lowest spend in SG and A period, which advertising was a big piece of it, until we could read the business and And so you're going to see year over year pressure on that line on SG and A because of it. But I think the key takeaway for you guys is to realize It's a competitive advantage right now.

I mean, most companies don't have the same kind of margin expansion, whether it's merch margin, gross margin or operating margin they may have to pull back because they're trying to pay for freight or they're trying to pay for raw material increases or whatever it may be, and we don't have to do that right now. So we're taking that opportunity and investing to drive new customer acquisition and to fuel future growth, and we think that's a real big competitive advantage.

Speaker 6

Okay. Fair enough. Thanks very much.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. We'll hear next from Seth Basham with Wedbush Securities.

Speaker 4

I have one bigger Your question and one specific question. Bigger picture, I am very intrigued by your thoughts on this transformational Investment in the home and the drivers behind that. When you think about the trend towards hybrid work environment, is that Primary thing that you're considering if you think about higher investment levels in the home furnishings, home furniture, etcetera going forward or are there bigger things that you're thinking about?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think it's the time we've all spent more at home has made us realize The importance of home, it was always been people's primary investment. And so that hasn't that's not a new But the amount of time and the ability for you to improve that space is so real and the happiness that, that gives you and the productivity. And so it's not just hybrid work. It's everything. It's learning how to cook.

You see trends of families Having their kids come back and live with them or bringing in their parents to live with them and all those moves. At the same time, Supply of houses is still too low and there's a lot of people who are out looking for second homes and even if they can't afford it themselves pulling their resources together with friends To complete that fantasy of buying a getaway home. And those are the things that when you talk to people about what they're thinking about now and what's This is what you hear. You hear about the kitchen remodel, you hear about the second home they wish they could buy. I mean, I'm sure you're hearing it with your friends and family.

And this is a really, really important trend that I don't think is going to be transient. I think it's one that will continue to last for a long time And one that puts us in a very good position, to not only take advantage of the trend, but also gain share because as I said earlier, there's just Nobody really has much share in this world and nobody is doing what we're doing.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's helpful perspective. And then secondly, thinking about the outlook for the balance of the year, obviously, your guidance range is impressive, but it does imply material deceleration in comparable store sales on a 2 year basis On the first half of the year, despite the fact that you guys mentioned that you see a very strong start and you expect strong holiday outlook, Is that just due to conservatism or is there something else that we should be thinking about?

Speaker 5

Yes, I wouldn't read anything more into that. As we've said, we've had very strong Success year to date. We've and for quite a few quarters now, and we've seen a strong going into the Q3. On the high end, we're guiding to low 20s, Which is still very high on a 2 year basis. Certainly, we are taking into consideration, like everybody else, the impacts from the supply chain challenges that are out there, but I think with our incredible supply chain team, we're best positioned to maneuver through that Better than anybody, but we're being thoughtful of that, and that's why we have the range that we have.

But with that said, there's absolutely no fundamental difference in our outlook For our business.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Chuck Grom with Gordon Haskett.

Speaker 9

Hey, thanks. Congrats on an awesome quarter. Laurie, you talked about not seeing any signs of the slowdown, but I'm actually curious if you're seeing an acceleration in your business with back to school here, summer ending, Etcetera. And I guess if so, at what banner? And then at the same time, you've sized up B2B as I think a $700,000,000 long term opportunity.

Can you just remind us what you think Williams, Sonoma Home could be long term?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. I'm going to need Julie's help on this. First of all, the obvious business that gets the most Bang from back to school is our kids and teen businesses because that is what we really address that. If you go to the home pages, Right now, you'll see that. And so, of course, that would imply that those have the most upside relative to back In terms of B2B, first of all, let me make sure that I didn't misspeak earlier as Julie wrote me a note and said she thought it said $100,000,000 when I $180,000,000 for the quarter.

So I'm going to take this opportunity with your question to correct myself if I misspoke. I apologize. So B2B, it is a really good question on how big this can be and when. It's certainly faster than we ever expected. And we keep making jokes about how much bigger could it be, but We're certainly on track to we said $1,000,000,000 in what, Julie?

Speaker 5

Originally 5 years. $700,000,000 this year, which is a 5% year.

Speaker 3

Yes, dollars 700,000,000 this year. So the reason I didn't put a number out there is because I don't want to be too small minded about it. I can say a number and then that is not even close to what our opportunity is. It's a monster opportunity.

Speaker 9

Got you. And what about Williamson on the Home?

Speaker 3

Williamson on the Home, have we I don't think we've put that number out there. We just we've Really changed our strategy from doing parts of the stores being online focused, which we think is a huge advantage in the market. And we just brought a new leader in and it's too early for us to put a number around it, but so far so good. And I do see it as a big growth driver in a large underserved market.

Speaker 9

Got it. And then one for Julie. Just in order to get to that 15% to 17% EBIT margin here in 2021 on a, let's say, a 20% revenue growth implies less flow through in the second half of the year. It sounds like there's going to be some incremental ad spend, but can you just help us think about the puts and takes and any variability between the 3rd and the 4th quarter that you want us to think about? Thanks.

Speaker 5

Yes. I mean, certainly ad spend will come into play on the SG and A line, but also we still believe we're going to have gross margin expansion, both from merch margin expansion and From occupancy leverage, I wouldn't focus too much on that. I mean, the reality is if you look at the 16% to 17%, it's almost 2x So we're just being thoughtful of that. And certainly, we're also keeping in mind the increase in raw material costs and freight costs that everyone is maneuvering through. But could it be higher?

Sure. But right now, we think this is the right target given we got a big back half to go, and we'll update you as we move through the year.

Speaker 9

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

We'll take our next question from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 2

And then even into next year. And then the second part is on the advertising spend. I did catch some of that. Can you talk about the timeframe in terms of Are you spending because you're seeing the immediate return? Or is this medium, longer term branding?

Speaker 5

From an inventory perspective, what we said is you'll see I think last quarter it was 1.7% or something like that and we moved to a 12% increase. But if you look at our inventory that's on hand and available for sale, it's still a decline of 2.5%. So we're not where we expected to be. And that's just quite frankly because, one, where our demand just hasn't stopped. So it's constantly really high demand.

So to get back in stock is really challenging. And then you combine that with the supply chain challenges That all are facing, we are better positioned than most. I guarantee that given our scale and long term relationships and our incredible supply chain team And who always jumps ahead of this, way ahead of anybody, if you think about the tariffs and everything else that we did. And Certainly, that is impacting us. We're not immune to it.

And so that will cause us to have higher back order levels throughout the balance of the year, but we do expect inventory to improve moderately as we move throughout the year.

Speaker 3

And there's things that I'm really proud of, I want to make sure we mentioned that You know, are very competitive. So for example, right now, in our upholstery business, where we make our own a large percent of our own upholstery, We were previously quoting about 100 days, which is when you look at a lot of people's sites, still better than most, but we are now down to 80 days. And looking at dropping that further as our incredible, upholstery teams are really Producing more than anyone else. And so we're thrilled about that. And that's the kind of thing, you give us a good challenge.

And I think most times, you're going to see we're going to And take that challenge and make it into an opportunity for us because it's all about visavis custom furniture from anyone else. So Felix, would you like to answer the question about advertising without being too competitive about telling everybody how we do it, but Answer the Sure. Are we thinking about it?

Speaker 10

Yes, you got it. Hi, Simeon. So short term or long term, I guess what we focus mostly on is return on investment. And we're really focused on customers who are in market. So in market for furniture, we're very focused People looking to are either moving, as Laura mentioned, wedding, having a baby, those are high value customers.

And so our acquisition strategies around there are very strong and are prevalent throughout all of our banners. From a long term perspective, again, when we see this uptick in furniture, that's always a good signal for us in terms of what it means From lifetime value. So I would say without presenting it out, we're focused on in market in the short term and then High value customers in the long term.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thanks. That's helpful.

Speaker 1

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Zack Fadem with Wells Fargo.

Speaker 11

Hi, this is David Lance on for Zack. Thanks for taking our questions. To start, within merchandise margins, we were wondering if you could unpack that a little bit in terms of price increases, mix In the absence of promotions and clearance. And then a follow-up would be, how did traffic and ticket Trend in the quarter and what was the impact of inflation?

Speaker 3

Oh, boy. Impact of inflation, I mean, That's a hard one to tease out. But in terms of promos, our strategy is to offer the customer great value in our products but not to run a promotional business. And this quarter reflects that strategy. It's interesting.

The broader competitive set, I think, is actually getting more promotional based on our research. And yet, we were able to outperform top line And bottom line, without running promotions, we are aggressive about our inventory turns and about slow movers. And interesting fact Some of those slow movers, which is really, really important for us to continue to do with our large cube furniture. Traffic is another really interesting story Because in our retail stores, believe it or not, as much as traffic has improved, it's still down to 2019. We're running these crazy good comps.

They're doing such a good job in our stores, selling and our product is so appealing to our customers. But imagine when the traffic Comps, how much better it could even be. So, yes, we are not back to 2019 level traffic in our stores, But it is an opportunity. We're seeing customers buy more from us. They're buying more furniture and they're buying more pieces as they look at decorating their whole homes with us.

And also, as I said earlier, online, they're shopping cross brand, and we're pushing that. It's not just Look, it's that we are pushing cross brand sales. And we just launched this week the new credit card. I think it might be before we run on time, Absolutely. I'll hand it over to Felix to talk about what makes this credit card different from our PLCC and Williams Sonoma card before, Felix?

Speaker 10

Yes. I mean, this week, Monday, in fact, we launched our new cross brand credit card in partnership with Capital One As part of our ever expanding loyalty program. And so when you shop with any of our brands online or in store, you get 5% back in rewards, You get 10% back in your 1st 30 days. When you shop at what's incremental to our past programs is When you shop at grocery stores and restaurants, you receive 4% back. And when you shop anywhere else, you get 1% back in rewards.

All cardholders, regardless of which brand they sign up for with get free shipping at Williams Sonoma as well. The card is designed to drive an increased retention in each individual brand, but it's also to incent and reward customer shopping So as Laura said, that average sale per customer is one of our key weapons in terms of growth and we continue to believe that we can increase our share of wallet by introducing our sister brands Across our portfolios to our customer.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks.

Speaker 1

Thank you. And that does conclude today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any additional or closing remarks.

Speaker 3

I just want to say thank you to you all for joining us and for your support, and I look forward to hopefully seeing you in person and if not,

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