Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to J2 Global's Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. My name is Paul, and I will be the operator assisting you today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. On this call will be Vivek Shah, CEO of j2 Global and Scott Chiriqui, President and CFO of j2.
I will now turn the call over to Scott Ciaricchi, President and CFO of j2 Global. Thank you. You may now begin.
Thank you. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the j2 Global Investor Conference Call for Q3 2020. As the operator mentioned, I'm Scott Turicchi, President and CFO of j2 Global. Joining me today is our CEO, Vivek Shah. We had an outstanding 3rd fiscal quarter, our best ever despite the ongoing pandemic and crushing not only the analyst estimates, but our own internal estimates.
We set records by a substantial margin for revenue, EBITDA, free cash flow and non GAAP earnings per share. In addition, due to our strong free cash flow generation, we ended the quarter with more than $665,000,000 of cash and investments after spending $12,000,000 for M and A and approximately $150,000,000 for stock repurchases representing 2,100,000 shares. We will use the presentation as a roadmap for today's call. A copy of the presentation is available at our website. When you launch the webcast, there is a button on the viewer on the right hand side, which will allow you to expand the slides.
If you have not received a copy of the press release, you may access it through our corporate website at www.j2global.com. In addition, you will be able to access the webcast from this site. After completing the formal presentation, we will be conducting a Q and A session. The operator will instruct you at that time regarding the procedures for asking a question. In addition, you may e mail questions at any time to investorj2global.com.
Before we begin our prepared remarks, allow me to read the Safe Harbor language. As you know, this call and the webcast will include forward looking statements. Such statements may involve risks and uncertainties that would cause the actual results to differ materially from the anticipated results. Some of those risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to the risk factors that we have disclosed in our various SEC filings, including our 10 ks filings, recent 10 Q filings, various proxy statements and 8 ks filings, as well as additional risk factors that we have included as part of the slideshow for this webcast. We refer you to discussions in those documents regarding Safe Harbor language as well as forward looking statements.
Now let me turn the call over to Vivek for his opening remarks.
Thank you, Scott, and good morning, everyone. Once again, j2 has demonstrated the fundamental strength of its portfolio and the high quality of its underlying businesses. We materially exceeded all expectations and blew by our records for revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS for the Q3. I couldn't be prouder of our organization and the hard work of our team worldwide. I remember thinking a few months ago that the Q2 would be a very hard act to follow, but Q3 has proven to be special with all of our divisions operating at full tilt, while also coming to an agreement to acquire RetailMeNot on the second to last day of the quarter.
As we announced in yesterday's press release, we're pleased to report that the deal has now officially closed. More on that later. There were a number of positives on the revenue side in the quarter. Our gaming businesses grew approximately 10% organically as we started to see the positive impact of new console cycle on our business. We're also continuing to enhance our leadership role in the games industry with IGN having served as lead production partner for the first all digital Gamescom event, drawing 46,000,000 users across multiple platforms.
Our broadband businesses also grew 10% organically. The Ekahau business, which as a reminder sells Wi Fi design and deployment tools for commercial spaces, returned to growth after seeing its business negatively impacted in the previous quarter by COVID. Not surprisingly, we continue to set testing records at Speedtest with 1,750,000,000 tests in Q3, up 62% year over year. Our businesses at Everyday Health had another fantastic quarter, growing revenues by 25%, the majority of which was organic. The professional business at Everyday Health continues to be a standout, anchored by our MedPage brand, which is up 119% in traffic year over year.
MedPage and its sister sites recently tied WebMD's network as the most frequently visited medical information websites in a survey of physicians conducted by the Decision Resources Group. Impressively, 65% of physicians in the U. S. Stated that they visit our sites. We're also 1 year into our acquisition of BabyCenter, which is operationally and financially running well ahead of plan.
On the cloud side, our cloud fax businesses had one of its strongest revenue growth quarters at 4% with the corporate cloud fax business growing over 12%. While page volumes are now essentially at pre COVID levels, much of the quarter was still at below normal volume, making our performance in corporate even more noteworthy. We believe that our product development and go to market strategies in the healthcare industry are paying off as we are winning larger contracts. I know many investors question the relevance of our Cloud Fax business, but I would encourage them to appreciate what we really offer, which is a cloud solution to secure HIPAA compliant document transfer. And that solution is fueling $140,000,000 plus corporate business with double digit growth.
Within our cybersecurity portfolio, our VPN businesses were up 10% organically in the quarter, offset by expected declines in our backup businesses. We continue to be long term bullish on the VPN, endpoint and email security parts of this group, while we continue to manage backup for profitability. We're also excited to announce that we just acquired inspired e Learning, which allows us to add security awareness training to our suite of endpoint, email, VPN and backup solutions. As strong as our revenue growth was, our adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS growth were sensational at 14.4% 18.8%, respectively. Most importantly, essentially all of that growth is organic as we had little M and A in general and the acquisitions we did contribute little in earnings in last year's Q3.
This is an important point as we manage the business for EBITDA and we'll take lower revenue growth for higher profit growth. While I know many in the market value organic revenue growth with earnings being secondary and in many cases non existent, we view organic earnings growth as the primary goal of our businesses. Through the 1st 3 quarters of this year, during one of the most disruptive and challenging operating environments imaginable, we have grown our adjusted EBITDA by 8% and our adjusted EPS by 9.1% without M and A impacting those results much. But acquisitions are central to our total growth mindset and strategy. So I wanted to spend a good deal of time this morning discussing the RetailMeNot acquisition, which as I mentioned closed last week.
This is a business that I personally studied and followed for over 10 years. In 2010, I was working with private equity to acquire businesses that would form the basis of a digital media company focused on helping consumers make buying decisions. RetailMeNot was a perfect target, but we came up short on valuation. We acquired Sys Davis instead. Since then, we've carefully followed RetailMeNot, waiting patiently for an opportunity to present itself.
As our loyal shareholders know, we play the long game and this situation reminds me of another asset for which our protracted patients was rewarded, Everyday Health. And today, Everyday Health will generate roughly $100,000,000 of EBITDA. What's been attractive about RetailMeNot for all these years is that it solves 2 persistent and growing needs. For the consumer, it produces savings through the discovery of deals and discounts. For the retailer, it produces qualified traffic.
Think of it as digital foot traffic. In physical retailing, location and agglomeration produce foot traffic. But in the world of online shopping, every retailer has to develop methods for drawing in customers. Working with what the industry refers to as affiliate publishers, online retailers are increasingly looking to them to generate demand and drive conversions. Prior to the pandemic, we were bullish on the long term shift from brick and mortar to e commerce, but the pandemic we believe has dramatically and permanently accelerated that shift, making the timing of this acquisition very compelling.
In addition, we believe the relevance of savings for consumers will only grow in a difficult economic climate. We have been an affiliate publisher since our early days in Digital Media. In my first presentation to the investment community right after J2 acquired Ziff Davis, we shared a slide outlining our desire to capture consumers in every phase of the purchase journey, which we broke into 4 steps discover, choose, buy and use. That strategy has been the underpinning of the growth in our performance marketing revenues. Of the $250,000,000 of performance marketing revenues we do in a year, almost half falls into the affiliate publishing category.
It's been a key differentiator between our publishing business model and those of others. We started in the discover and choose phases, leveraging our reviews and buying guide content at PCMag IGN and later with Mashable, Everyday Health, What to Expect and BabyCenter. We then moved more into the choose and buy phases with the acquisitions of offers.comblackfriday.com and a series of other Black Friday sites. While our efforts have made us a top affiliate publisher in the industry, driving approximately $1,000,000,000 of retail sales, the acquisition of RetailMeNot puts us at an entirely new level. RetailMeNot's website, mobile app and browser extension draw 650,000,000 annual visits and drive 4,300,000,000 dollars of retail sales, about 4 times our existing retail sales.
On a trailing 12 month basis, RetailMeNot's revenues were about $180,000,000 and their EBITDA margin percentage was in the low 30s. Our new colleagues have done a fantastic job at establishing RetailMeNot as a favorite brand amongst shoppers and a leading source of traffic and sales for retailers. We believe our combined portfolio of affiliate commerce assets will create value in 4 areas: take rate, margins, traffic and future acquisitions. On take rate, our current affiliate publishing business enjoys about a 10% rate, while RetailMeNot is around 4%. The delta is largely due to the difference in payments for demand clicks versus conversion clicks.
The former will earn a higher commission publisher is viewed as driving conversion. Preventing cart abandonment and generating incremental traffic are a valuable combination. We believe our skills and experience at producing content that drives demand clicks when distributed on RetailMeNot's platforms will allow us to start improving RetailMeNot's overall take rate. Every point of take rate improvement would be worth $43,000,000 of annual revenues. On the margin front, our current affiliate publishing portfolio operates at about 10 points higher than RetailMeNots.
But Retail Me Knot has historically had margins as high as those as well. We believe that together we can return to those margins and apply our well defined and successfully executed shrink to grow strategy. In the case of RetailMeNot, the company has pursued non core projects such as gift cards and in store that have not only harmed margin but also distracted from the core affiliate publishing business. On traffic, RetailMeNot has seen challenges both in terms of aggregate traffic and then the shift from desktop to mobile. On the former, we believe investments in editorial content, especially the type that will drive demand clicks, will help to grow traffic.
In addition, we believe that the Deal Finder browser plug in is a huge opportunity. It competes with PayPal's Honey, which is ahead of deal finder in installs, but together they have less than 1% penetration of Internet connected devices. In other words, it's very early days, And we believe we can leverage J2's media audience of several 100,000,000 worldwide to drive adoption of deal finder. I'm also happy to report that the patent litigation that existed between PayPal and Honey with RetailMeNot has all been resolved. That had been an overhang for a while and we're glad to see that dealt with.
On the shift from desktop to mobile, we believe reorienting the mobile strategy to focus on mobile e commerce as opposed to the mobile device being used for we believe that the J2 acquisition system can continue to be leveraged in the affiliate commerce space. The acquisitions prior to RetailMeNot of offers.com and our Black Friday sites have generated amongst the highest IRRs in our acquisition history. We believe we've acquired RetailMeNot at an attractive EBITDA multiple and within 12 to 24 months expect to operate at an annualized EBITDA run rate of $80,000,000 The affiliate commerce industry is fragmented and we see an opportunity to continue to consolidate to achieve scale. I'd like to conclude with another update on our ESG initiatives. As I discussed in detail in our last call, we have made a great deal of progress on our ESG efforts, especially in the area of diversity, equity and inclusion.
In Q3, we announced a deposit of $10,000,000 in 4 Black Run Banks and Credit Unions. These deposits enhance the lending capabilities of these institutions which serve black and brown communities in LA and in New York and in places in between. We also announced an expansion of our partnership with the NAACP, in which we are committing $6,000,000 of advertising over 3 years to support the messaging of the leading civil rights organization in the U. S. I encourage you to spend some time at the new Responsibility section on jdut.com where you'll see a number of our ESG initiatives outlined.
We also welcomed another new Board Director to J2, Pamela Sutton Wallace. Pam is a highly accomplished and nationally recognized healthcare executive, who currently serves as the SVP and Regional COO of New York Presbyterian and was formerly the CEO of the UVA Medical Center. Given the importance of healthcare to our company's portfolio, Pam's industry experience and insight will be very valuable to the company. As I've said on previous calls, j2 is committed to advancing Board refreshment and ensuring we have the optimal mix of experience and backgrounds on our Board. Now, let me hand the call back to Scott.
Thanks, Vivek. Q3 2020 set a number of financial records for which we are quite proud given the continuing pandemic, including revenue, adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow and non GAAP EPS. These results were driven by better top line performance and an improved cost structure. We ended the quarter with approximately $665,000,000 of cash and investments. After the quarter closed, we spent about $420,000,000 to acquire RetailMeNot and replaced our 6% cloud notes due 2025 with new 10 year 4.5eight percent notes at the J2 Global parent.
Let's review the summary quarterly financial results on Slide 4. For Q3 2020, j2 saw a 3.7% increase in revenue from Q3 2019 to $357,000,000 which exceeded our expectations. Gross profit margin, which is a function of the relative mix of our business units, rose to 84.7% from 82.3% in Q3 2019, in part due to lower costs in the Media segment. We saw EBITDA grow by 14.4 percent to a 3rd quarter record of $154,100,000 The EBITDA margin for the quarter was 43.2%, a margin I might note we usually see only in Q4 versus 39.2 percent a year ago due to the improved gross margin as well as cost containment in our operating expenses. Finally, adjusted EPS grew approximately 20 percent to $2.02 per share versus $1.70 per share for Q3 2019, driven by the aforementioned increases in EBITDA and a reduced share count.
Turning to Slide 5, in Q3, we generated a 3rd quarter record $93,700,000 of free cash flow, which included $14,500,000 of estimated tax payments usually due in Q2 that were deferred and paid in Q3, an approximate 20% increase from Q3 2019. This was after continuing to make significant investments in our businesses through $20,700,000 of CapEx. A trailing 12 month basis, we generated $387,000,000 of free cash flow for a 66.7% free cash flow conversion of our trailing 12 month EBITDA of $580,200,000 Now let's turn to the 2 businesses, Cloud and Digital Media for Q3 as outlined on Slide 6. The Cloud business was flat in revenue for Q3 2020 at $170,200,000 of revenue compared to the same quarter a year ago. Remember that during the quarter we divested our Australia and New Zealand voice assets, which cost the cloud business approximately $1,000,000 in revenue during the quarter.
The improvement in revenue from Q2 was due to improved usage from our healthcare customers as well as new sign ups across our various cloud services. Before turning to EBITDA, since we no longer have debt at the cloud business, we will not be allocating corporate expense to the 2 segments as we did previously. This was done so that our cloud segment financials would conform to the standalone cloud financials that are audited each year. We believe that this allows for a better comparison of the operational results since the 2 business segments do not control corporate expenses nor their allocations. EBITDA increased by approximately 1.6% for our cloud business to $87,800,000 compared to $86,500,000 in Q3 2019 after removing corporate allocations.
The EBITDA margin of 51.6 percent is up about 1 percentage point from Q3 2019. Our Media business grew revenue 8 percent to $186,700,000 and produced $75,000,000 of EBITDA or 33.2% growth after removing corporate allocations compared to Q3 2019. EBITDA margin increased by 7.6 percentage points from Q3 2019 to 40.2 percent due to incremental high margin revenue, lower costs and an improved OpEx cost structure. On Slide 7, I'm pleased that after reintroducing guidance only last quarter, we are raising the guidance for 2020 based on the strong Q3 results as well as the inclusion of RetailMeNot for 2 months. Our reinstated full guidance now estimates revenues for the year between $1,447,000,000 $1,462,000,000 adjusted EBITDA between $595,000,000 $605,000,000 and non GAAP EPS of between $7.85 per share $8 per share.
This implies at the midpoint an increase in 2020 revenues, adjusted EBITDA and non GAAP EPS of 4.6%, 6.6% and 8.7%, respectively, compared to the guidance previously issued. I would also note that the low end of our EBITDA and non GAAP EPS estimates exceed the original high end pre COVID guidance of $595,000,000 of EBITDA and $7.66 of non GAAP EPS. Finally, before turning the call back to the operator for Q and A, I want to address our current trading multiple. Last quarter Vivek noted that j2 believed it was an unprecedented time to buy j2 stock and we acted upon it. If we look at our own historic trading multiples based on revenue, EBITDA, free cash flow and earnings, we believe we are significantly below our averages and well below our highs, notwithstanding the company having more revenue, EBITDA and EPS than any time in our history.
By way of example, on a trailing 12 month basis, we traded 2.7 times revenue, 7.1 times adjusted EBITDA, 9 times non GAAP EPS and 10.4 times free cash flow, which are between 30% to 40% off our average multiples and over 50% off of our highs. I would now ask the operator to rejoin us to instruct you on how to queue for questions.
Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. And your first question is coming from Cory Carpenter from JPMorgan. Cory, your line is live.
Great. Thanks for the questions. Vivek, maybe one for you, Henriette and Renate and then I'll have a follow-up for Scott as well. So appreciate the color you provided on the call and congrats on the closing. I was hoping you could just unpack a bit more on some of the strategic benefits you see that RetailMeInOut brings across your digital media portfolio, Maybe how it fits within your existing businesses such as Offer.com?
And then also some of the synergies that you're expecting?
Well, thanks for the question, Corey, and good morning. So look, as I said in the earlier remarks, this is a space that we have been in for a while, the affiliate publishing space and the affiliate commerce space. We know it exceedingly well through offers.com and our Black Friday sites as well as our content sites such as PCMag and IGN. So it's a space we've done well in. We've got a great track record.
We've got great platforms. And retail me not the leader in this space. And so we think combined the opportunities in the areas I talked about take rate and margins and traffic growth and future M and A are pretty robust. So this is one that we are really excited about. It's one that I personally tracked for a while and I think we can do something really special with it.
And we're excited to welcome our colleagues, mostly down in Austin to the company.
Great. And then maybe, Scott, just a follow-up. So on the updated 2020 guide, could you just help impact your expectations for revenue and profit, maybe at Digital Media versus Cloud segment? And then also one question we've been getting a lot of, just how you're expecting how much you're expecting RetailMeNot to contribute to the quarter? Thank you.
Yes. So let me thanks, Corey. Let me try to put all that together sort of one comprehensive answer. And I thought you did a pretty good job last night in your note. As Vivek mentioned, the trailing 12 month revenue of RetailMeNot is $180,000,000 operating in the low 30s EBITDA margin.
We'll get onesixth of that in our current fiscal year or Q4. As you noted, there is seasonality, so we'll get a little bit more than that percentage. And we should do better on the overall margin as you normally would see in our own digital media businesses. Also remember
that we're going to lose about $3,000,000 to
$4,000,000 in the cloud business because of ANZ Voice not being in the revenue for a full quarter versus Q4 of 2019. It was in the quarter Q3 for about 2 months. And then we also I just remind people, we have some degree of negative seasonality in the cloud sequentially from Q3 to Q4 as we lose a few business days, although as Vivek mentioned, we've been having positive trending on usage, which may compensate for some of that at least on a sequential basis. Then in terms of the overall margin, what we expect then for the rest of the businesses is we've guided them to be essentially flat. They could be a little bit up, they could be a little bit down.
The influencers there are going to be the following. We remain, 1, cautious because of the continuing pandemic and the talk of a second wave and how that might impact the economy. And 2, I would just remind you that in the year ago quarter, Baby Center and SpiceWorks were recently acquired. And as part of the shrink to grow, there'll be revenues not in Q4 2020 that were in Q4 2019. The offset to that though is we expect our EBITDA margins to be about 200 basis points better than last year.
So they'll be up not only year over year Q4 to Q4, but also sequentially from Q3 to Q4.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Shweta Khajuria from RBC Capital Markets. Shweta, your line is live.
Okay, thanks. Let me try 2, please. Could you please talk about your board composition? We should investors be expecting any further changes? Are you satisfied with the changes you've made?
And then the second one is, can you please talk about the trends you saw within your media segment through the quarter? So sequential trends from July to August, August to September, and then how what you're seeing early on in the Q4 so far? Thank you.
Thanks, Shweta. Let me take the first one, Scott, and maybe you take the second one. So let me start by saying, look, we have, we think a fantastic Board that brings a diverse set of perspectives and skills to the equation. Over the last few months, we've added 2 fantastic new Board of Directors, Scott Taylor, who is formerly the General Counsel at Symantec and brings just a great cybersecurity perspective amongst other things. But cybersecurity, as you know, is an important part of our portfolio.
And then as I said in our early remarks, Pam Sutton Wallace has just recently joined the Board. She brings as the current regional COO of New York Presbyterian and former CEO of the UVA Medical Center, just a fantastic view into healthcare and the health systems, which is really relevant obviously to our health media businesses at Everyday Health Group, as well as our cloud services businesses, particularly our corporate cloud fax. So the new perspectives we think are great. The Board is now 10. It's expanded.
We think it's the appropriate group to have around the table. And so we're excited about it. And I think ongoing, we're going to continue to look for opportunities to refresh, to bring in new perspectives and to ensure that the skill sets align with the evolution of the portfolio.
Thank you. And the next question
is from Sorry to interrupt. Scott, 2nd question.
Yes, there was I think she had a second question. So let me address that. So Shweta, in terms of the digital media progression, I'd say it followed a similar path to what we talked about in Q2, which was sequential improvement throughout the quarter from June when we ended Q2 through September. Each month was better than the previous. And so far based on the early evidence, I would say that's tracking also for October.
Just remember that in Q4, our most important months are November December and really beginning in about 10 days through about Christmas time. But so far, we continue to see improving and firming trends in our digital media businesses.
Okay. We
can take the next question.
Certainly. The next question is coming from Nick Jones from Citigroup. Nick, your line is live.
Great. Thanks for taking the question. I think maybe this one's for you Vivek. But I guess can you talk about when you talk about discovery discover, choose, buy and use, are there opportunities within the healthcare business to do this? When I look at Vericast's properties, they have Rx Saver.
We recently saw GoodRx go public kind of doing the same thing, but for pharmaceuticals, there's telemedicine marketplaces. Is there any way or opportunities to kind of bridge your know how in retail to kind of the healthcare space? Or is there kind of a different dynamic there that makes it more difficult from like an SEO perspective or marketing perspective? Any thoughts there would be helpful.
So let me start by saying that we actually do a fair amount of affiliate commerce within the everyday health group. The parenting and pregnancy space with baby center and what to expect, as you can imagine, we do very well in categories such as baby registry, cord blood and things that attach themselves to families that are expecting. So we see a fair amount of transaction volume and compensation there, and we continue to view that as a growth area. Within the other health properties, we do have categories, including wellness and diet and meditation, subscription businesses where we are compensated for driving transactions and we see opportunities there. The pharma discount space, which is getting a lot of attention given the success of GoodRx, is a space that we have started to dip our toe into that water.
There are complexities there where essentially a lot of the affiliate players are really PBMs, pharmacy benefit managers themselves. And that might be a level too far for us. We don't know. We're going to have to look at that. I think more appropriately, I think everyday health has an opportunity to work with the GoodRx's of the world, which we've done in the Sharecares and other entities in the space to be drivers of their businesses.
So that would probably be the more appropriate place for us to sit, but we do. We view any category where consumers are looking online to, as we say, discover the product they want, choose, buy and use it and where we can get compensated for driving that transaction. So the health category is absolutely 1.
Great. Thanks for taking my question.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Shyam Patil from Susquehanna. Shyam, your line is live.
Hi, guys. I had a couple of questions. On RetailMeNot, thanks for the color on the trailing 12 month revenue and margins as well
as the
expected future run rate. But I was just curious with the shrink to grow strategy as well as just your overall strategy for the business, are there any guideposts you can offer in terms of how to think about revenue for RetailMeNot for next year as well as EBITDA? And also, is there anything we should keep in mind regarding seasonality for both revenue and EBITDA, specifically for retail may not, as we try to model out next year?
Yes. I think that you highlighted an important point. So the trailing 12 month revenue as we noted is $180,000,000 I think that our expectation and we're obviously still very much deep in budgeting and not prepared yet to release 2021 guidance. But I think you should expect that number to be possibly down somewhat in 2021 as we do shrink to grow. The compensating factor is the margin should be up.
As Vivek noted, we've got about 10 percentage points in margins to gain in that business. We don't think we'll get them all next year. But certainly, as we are exiting 2021 and going into 2022, we should be starting to hit a more normalized margin level. So I think that will give you some guideposts. In terms of seasonality, it's similar to our core digital media businesses, where you're getting 30 ish percent of the revenue in Q4 and a fall off in Q1.
So I think you can impose a similar seasonality to what you've already been seeing in our digital media portfolio.
The only thing I might Shyam, the only thing I might add to what Scott said is, I think we have a great deal of understanding of the parts of the business that we don't think are promising and therefore might fit the shrink to grow piece. What we need to work on through our modeling and our budget process is how quickly we can achieve growth in the areas that I outlined in my early remarks. And depending on that timing, you could absolutely see an offset to the shrink to grow. So I think that's the piece that is the unknown, which is the timing around the progress we're going to make against the various pieces. Look, we want to be very focused in the near term.
We're moving into Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Cyber Week. This is the peak shopping period. So in many ways, we don't want to distract anyone. I think the company needs to be focused on executing well in the next 2 months. And then I think we'll be in a better position to start to put in place the various growth strategies and ideas that we have.
So look, give us a little bit of time to unpack that. And I think by the time we're issuing guidance next year, we'll have a very clean answer.
Thanks. That's very helpful. I have one follow-up. Just on the fax business, the growth rates you called out were very impressive. Can you just talk about that opportunity going forward?
And just, in particular, how do you think about the growth opportunity within fax overall as well as corporate faxes and then within that just the healthcare business?
Look, I've said it many times. I'm not sure if anyone ever really registers it, but we have now $140,000,000 plus corporate fax business with double digit organic growth. This is not new. And it's a fantastic opportunity. And I think as more and more of healthcare looks to shift to the cloud, we're going to be a beneficiary.
And the fact remains that for HIPAA compliance reasons and interoperability reasons, fax is a preferred method of document delivery and transfer. So we continue to be bullish in that aspect of the business. And as I've said, I think if we had described this as I've got an HCIT business growing double digits organically at $140,000,000 operating at ridiculously high margins trying to solve healthcare interoperability, it probably that'd be worth more than all of J2. But when we say it's facts, for some reason, what I just said and what preceded that somehow gets falls away. So we're bullish.
We think it's a great business. I've always said it's a great business. Great. Thanks, guys.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from James Fish from Piper Sandler. James, your line is live.
Hey, Vivek and Scott, congrats on a great quarter. In closing, RetailMeNot, really impressive results. But Scott, this is the largest buyback that is larger than the last 7 years combined that we've seen. Is it that you're seeing less opportunity in M and A closures or just more opportunity in your own shares, which based on your commentary on valuation would suggest the latter? And while we're kind of thinking about it today, if we do have a blue sweep, is there any impact to how your taxes might change here?
So I think you kind of answered your own question, Jim, in that and the beauty of our capitalization is we were able to do both. Obviously, we closed a few small deals in the quarter. We've now closed what will be our 2nd largest transaction in the company's history of RetailMeNot. And at the same time, we were able to buy back in excess 2,000,000 shares, dollars 150,000,000 And really it's driven by that chart on Slide 8 that I put up, which is the tremendous discount, whether you look at the average multiples of j2 or the highs, and we'd argue probably the highs would be more relevant than the averages, find it to be very compelling and very competitive with investing money in assets. So because of how we are high free cash flow oriented, because our capitalization is such, it affords us the ability to do both.
We will continue to look at both sets of capital allocation activities. In terms of the Blue Wave and taxes, the Biden plan, there's a lot of unanswered questions and details that are left out. Certainly, the headline is that corporate taxes would go up from the stated 21% to 28%. So you can, at one level, look at a 7 percentage point increase. Having said that, though, the details are really the function of what happens to the mechanics of what happened in 2017.
There's things like GILTI and DEET that were put in place. Do those remain? Do they come out? We still maintain our international tax structure. So might that become more relevant again to the extent that the rates go up and provide some degree of offset?
Right now, the plan is far too sketchy. It's far too high level to know what the impact would be other than it's likely that the taxes in the aggregate where you've sort through it all would be higher than they are under the current 2017 tax reform act. But the degree of magnitude is really unknowable.
Yes, understood. It's still only Election Day today after all. And then just some housekeeping items. Can we get a breakdown within the Digital Media business? I know it's in the Q, between advertising and subscription.
And then any update as to the cross selling programs that have been going on in cloud services and if there are any bundles that are especially working well?
Sure. So the first one, you're going to see that it's about 74% for the quarter of performance based marketing and display advertising, display advertising and video having a slight lead over performance based marketing, about 26% of subscriptions. You'll see that on the Q, which hopefully will be filed either Friday or Monday. And Vivek, you may want to address what's been going on in cloud with some of the bundles?
Yes. So we've been doing a fair amount of testing between our backup, endpoint, email and VPN packaging. We've seen some really good success in some ARPA increase as well as just what we think will be improved retention. It's still early to really understand that because it's you kind of need a whole contract year to go by. I'll also say that we're continuing to look at acquiring new solutions that can be built into the suite.
So I mentioned, inspired e learning, which closed yesterday, which is security awareness training. And so security awareness training, I'm sure everyone on this call has done it. Your company provides through a 3rd party like IEL training around basically not clicking on bad links in emails and on the web. And so packaging that in, we also think is going to be an interesting upsell and cross sell opportunity and it was a piece of our suite that we were missing. The people we compete with, particularly in email security, have all done acquisitions in this space.
And so we're excited to have that as well within the lineup.
Understood. Congrats again, guys.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Daniel Ives from Wedbush. Daniel, your line is live.
Yes, thanks.
Could you talk about, especially on healthcare pharma, I think you tend to see 6, 9 months in advance on the advertising front. Could you just maybe talk about some of those trends that you're seeing, obviously stable to strong, but just maybe talk about that?
Yes. Hi, Dan. So the pharma market continues to be very strong. It's as I've said in the past, it's in 2 markets. There's the direct to consumer market DTC and then there is the direct to provider market DPP.
On the consumer side, I think increasingly pharma are shifting dollars from traditional television to digital. And so that's why we're seeing double digit organic growth in our consumer business. As I've said in the past, we're seeing the same dynamic, possibly even more profoundly in our professional business anchored by MedPage, where the traditional marketing vehicle or mechanism was were pharma sales reps visiting pharma visiting physicians' offices that really has stopped or come to a pretty significant to a low to a small crawl and that now they're looking for digital solutions to reach physicians. And as I pointed out in our prepared remarks, our position and penetration of physicians is really remarkable. We're neck and neck with Medscape, which had always been the market leader.
And so we feel very, very good about that. So we continue to feel bullish about the pharma market, which is material for our media business.
Great. And then maybe, Scott, you could hit this. Now obviously, when the pandemic first started and there was a perception from an M and A perspective that was really going to slow you guys down just given the typical model, especially on larger deals. Obviously, we've seen a deal this quarter, but could you maybe just talk about that? I mean, going forward in terms of bigger M and A due diligence, the way the team is, have you guys adjusted now it seems to a new norm that wouldn't stop you from larger, much more significant M and A?
I think the answer Vivek may want to chime in. The answer is absolutely yes to that. As you know, and as we pointed out in Q2, we thought it was prudent given all of the uncertainty in both work from home for our own company and employees as well as how it would impact not only our own businesses, but target businesses we were looking at to put a pause on. But then as we saw our own success in working from home and the productivity actually remaining very strong, the M and A team began to refocus first on things that we have looked at in the more recent past, so we had some knowledge of it. But now they've gone full bore.
I mean, so we are completely engaged in M and A. Obviously, we did a few small tuck ins during the quarter that we already announced as part of an earlier release. Of course, we talked a lot about RetailMeNot. But I think on a going forward basis, we're really there's the 3 types of M and A that remain very prevalent. So we have those small deals that are tuck ins that you saw us do in Q3.
Those are very much garden variety, easy to execute almost in any environment. I'd say we have a very nice pipeline of the midsize deals. Think of the baby centers, the SpiceWorks we did last year. And then we have a group of the more retail me not sized deals, some a little larger, some a little smaller. As I always caution people, there's always a lower probability on those deals.
Some of them are competitive and some of them when we get into diligence, we just cannot affirm the price that is being expected by the seller.
Great, great quarter. Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Saket Kalia from Barclays Capital. Saket, your line is live.
Excellent. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions here. Vivek,
maybe just
to start with you, a lot of talk about RetailMeNot so far, so sorry to beat a dead horse. But I thought the math that you walked through earlier was interesting. I was wondering if you could just recap it a little bit high level. I think it was about $43,000,000 in incremental revenue per point of take rate improvement. Can you just walk through that math again and why you think there is room for upside there in that take rate?
And maybe as part of that, sort of reconcile that for me with the commentary around shrink to grow. It feels like that's there is incremental revenue opportunity, but we've talked a lot about shrink to grow. So can you just recap what parts of the businesses are shrinking where it seems like a part of the business might actually grow? There's a lot there. Does that all make sense?
Yes, it does. Thank you Saket for the question and it's a good one. So the way we get at every point equaling $43,000,000 of annual revenue is that RetailMeNot's current annualized retail sales for which it receives a 4% commission is $4,300,000,000 So that's simple math. And so the idea is and as I said, our properties, which produce about $1,000,000,000 of retail sales, so far less than RetailMeNot enjoy a 10% take rate. And the difference really comes down to are you viewed as producing demand or are you viewed as preventing cart abandonment?
And the way to shift up market from cart abandonment to demand and by the way, both are very valuable. So don't get me wrong, we want to do both and we're excited to have both, but it doesn't mean that you can't at RetailMeNot start to present deals versus presenting coupons, and that's the difference. There's a difference between a user at a checkout experience saying, you know what, I'm going to apply a coupon and it creates a conversion event versus a consumer seeing a deal on a product that they weren't otherwise considering and the fact that the product is a quality deal and a quality product drives them to purchase. And that's more of what our existing assets have accomplished. They didn't start that way.
We evolved them. Offers.com was a lot like a Retail Me Not, coupon driven. We've been able to evolve that asset. So we have confidence in our ability to evolve Retail Me Not. Then in your question about, well, if that's going to generate incremental revenue, but then there are going to be certain businesses that you start to pull away from.
As I said, it's a timing issue. The things we're going to pull away from, you can do pretty quickly, right? The things we're going to grow into take time. And so it's just a matter of what is that timing going to be when we say, hey, listen, in store isn't that attractive for us, let's dial that back, that can happen immediately. The process by which generating content, distributing content, negotiating new rates with retailers, that takes time.
That doesn't happen overnight. So in my mind, you give us 12 months on this and I think we're going to get to a very interesting place where we have eradicated the revenues that generate no earnings, generate loss and at the same time we start to see the upswing on our growth initiatives. And this is precisely what we've done in this space a couple of times before. So we have a lot of confidence in it.
Got it. Very clear and helpful. Scott, maybe for you for my follow-up. Maybe looking at the organic business, EBITDA in the digital in digital media in particular was better. I think you mentioned a point earlier that 40% margin really isn't seen outside of a Q4.
But really want to dial into sort of the gross margin piece because I think that's been up and sort of approaching this 90% level for a couple of quarters now. And so the question is, is this maybe related to some of those baby center synergies, for example, shining through? Or is there something related to pricing? I guess I'm trying to understand if we feel that gross margin, excluding RetailMeInOut, of course, is sustainable organically in your view?
Yes, I think and yes, I appreciate the question there. So the answer is sort of yes across the board. As Vivek mentioned, and I think we talked about it last quarter, BabyCenter achieved its integration in terms of its financial integration status earlier than expected, that's only improving. So we're getting the full benefit of that in Q3. Also though, go back to what we talked about in Q2 in terms of the various programs we put in place that affected both cost of goods sold as well as OpEx.
And so it had to do with, in essence, a complete renegotiation of all of our contracts. So that did affect COGS. We did not, to just remind people, do a riff. So it did not affect the employee component of that, but it did affect the vendor piece of it. And then so we do think that all or substantially all of it is sustainable as it relates to the core business.
Obviously, there'll be work to be done to bring those safe programs to retail me not.
Got it. Very helpful. Thanks, guys.
Thank you.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from James Breen from William Blair. James, your line is live.
Thanks for taking the question. Just a couple. Can you talk about sort of the revenue breakdown in the digital media side between the different types of advertising, subscription, etcetera, and how you've seen that trend even much in those strength in gaming? And then just a couple for Scott. You did do a few other acquisitions in the quarter.
I wonder if you could tell us how much you spent on those 3? And then also how much is left on the buyback? Thanks.
Yes, sure. Let me why don't I be quick and start. Just on the advertising side, advertising was up about 10% year over year. We had organic growth at Everyday Health and Gaming and Ookla. We also did have some benefit from some M and A from prior periods.
We do have some challenges on the lead gen side, on the B2B side. That's still not at the level we'd like it to be. We think this has been the one area of the advertising business that's had COVID and pandemic related challenges. I want to point out something very important though. We get little to no election advertising and that has been a major boost in the advertising numbers of other digital media businesses.
So we are performing at this level. Our display is up 13% as part of the advertising. So advertising is display and performance marketing. This is our 8th consecutive quarter of growth. Those who have been around the company a while remember a time when display was a concern and we have gotten past that.
And then just on the subscription side, media subscription side, we're roughly mid single digits, which is a deceleration in the media subscription business. And it doesn't show up here per se, but in our increased games publishing at Humble. That's become a much more material and important part of that business' strategy, which is to be a publisher of games versus just having the subscription service.
And then, Jim, in terms of the second question, the deals that we closed, during Q3, we spent about $8,000,000 on those. So as you can tell, they're small tuck ins. This does not include, obviously, RetailMeNot or IEL, which Vivek mentioned in his opening remarks, which is closed yesterday, which will be Q4 deals. And then in terms of the stock buyback, we initiated a 10,000,000 share program at the end of last quarter, meaning Q2. So we have now purchased 2,000,000 shares into that program, so 8,000,000 shares remain.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Will Power calling from Baird. Will, your line is live.
Okay, great. Thanks. Yes, I guess I'll try to put in a couple of questions here. Maybe just following up just quickly on the media subscription comment, when you're looking at kind of mid single digit growth, does that include Ookla or is Ookla separate from that? I guess I'm kind of curious what you're seeing at Ookla.
It sounds like really good download trends. And how can 5 gs perhaps positively impact that? So just trying to get a little more color on that piece of the business to start.
Yes. So the Ookla business is inside much of the Ookla business is inside of that. The advertising portion of the Ookla business is not inside that. It's interesting. We are seeing extraordinarily high levels of testing volume, which is not surprising, obviously, which improves the data set.
It doesn't necessarily convert point for point in terms of revenue, but it is strengthening our already strong market position in terms of data capture. And we think that as 5 gs rolls out, you're going to have the same volume of increased testing. And I think it will allow us to produce new data sets for which we can charge incrementally. So I do think that will be a tailwind for the Ookla business. And then I think, look, the one that you didn't mention, but I'm going to mention just because it's related is Ekahau.
Ekahau really was impacted by the fact that what it sells really couldn't be used at the height of at least the first wave, which was office buildings being shut down, but we're seeing a really nice recovery there. And I think an understanding that when people do return to offices, the Wi Fi needs to be as strong as it's ever been as there's still a contemplation that even inside of offices you're going to have high broadband usage with video conferencing. The video conferencing activity will continue we think to be meaningful not just because people are working from home, because I think when you have the mixture, the hybrid, which is what we're seeing in a lot of businesses where you have people in an office and people at home, they're still going to video conference. That's going to put more, I think, strain on broadband networks. And so a business like Ekahau, I think, will thrive in an environment like that.
Okay. Makes sense. I guess second question, Vivek, you had, I guess, targeted $80,000,000 in EBITDA for RetailMeNot in the next 18 month kind of rough timeframe, I think. Maybe just talk about the key drivers of that, how much of that's revenue improvement, take rate, other things along those lines versus cost opportunities, the strength to grow piece? I'm just trying to get a sense for maybe where the lowest hanging fruit is there and kind of the confidence level of reaching that target.
Well, I just say it's all of that. I think that the I think we'll certainly see margin earlier as we deprioritize low to negative margin businesses, I. E. Shrink to grow. I think we will start to see the benefits of take rate and traffic, but that's going to take longer.
That doesn't happen overnight, but it will happen, we believe, within that 12, 24 month timeframe. And then the gravy would be future M and A on the platform, right? So in my opinion, there's an order of battle. It's not any different than our typical order of battle. And so you go at the things that you can deprioritize first and then you build in the other pieces.
And so again, I think by February when we have our next call, I think we'll have a better sense of the pace and timing of the organic opportunities around take rate and traffic.
Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott Turicchi for any closing remarks.
Thank you very much. We appreciate all of you joining us today for our Q3 earnings call, unpacking the results, as well as getting a deeper dive on RetailMeNot. As usual, we will be at a number of conferences, albeit virtual, between now and the end of the year. So look for press releases to announce those conferences. Also, we will be doing a variety of non deal roadshow activity, virtual of course.
And so if you have any follow-up questions or interest, please reach out to me or to Vivek or to one of our analysts and we would be happy to facilitate a conversation. And then we would expect our next regularly scheduled earnings call to be approximately in the 2nd week of February to announce Q4 results and then release 2021 guidance. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a