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Earnings Call: Q2 2021
Jul 15, 2021
Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to TomTom's Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. We will be facilitating a question and answer session towards the end of today's prepared remarks. Call.
Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to your host for today's conference, Claudia Hansen, Head of Investor Relations and Group Control. You may begin.
Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to our conference call during which we will discuss our operational and financial highlights for the Q2 2021. With me today are Harold Rodijn, our CEO and Thakur Tizolar, our CFO. We will start today's call with Harold, We will discuss the key operational developments followed by a more detailed look at the financial results and outlook from Taco. We will then take your questions.
As usual, I would like to point out that Safe Harbor applies. And with that, Harald, I would like to hand over to you.
Yes. Thank you very much, Claudia. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us. I will briefly go over our key operational highlights for the quarter, And then Taka will provide further information on the financials and the outlook for the year.
Looking back On the first half of twenty twenty one, our enterprise unit showed a robust performance. We expanded our Customer base in fleet logistics and on demand markets where we have a strong market presence already. Next to that, We further expanded our footprint in the insurance markets. Our products for traffic, speed profiles, congestion data are used to produce hyper local and reliable risk profiles for drivers, which help to accurately price insurance products. In automotive, we see leading brands continue to incorporate our technology, including our mapping data for advanced driver assistance features.
The all new Nissan Qashqai launched recently featuring tonal maps which are delivered over the air. Our ADAS content also supports the new upgraded driver assistance features. Genesis is Hyunla Kia's luxury brand, and they have chosen Ponton Maps and real time traffic services for their upcoming models in Europe. We do have a long standing relationship with Hyundai Kia for the supply of traffic and incident data, but this is the first time Hyundai Kia is using our maps. We expect to be able to broaden and deepen this relationship in the future, which would mark another important market share win.
Toyota launched their TeamMate product last month, which will be the 1st commercially available Level 2 system Incorporating TonTon HD Maps, the T MATE system fuses LiDAR and camera sensor information with our HD Map to localize the vehicle. The system facilitates automated lane change and intelligent speed control, particularly important for speed adjustments at exit ramps. Toyota has published a YouTube movie that explains the working of the system and the role of our MAP. So far this year, deal activity for both Enterprise and Automotive has been good. We expect further significant wins for the second half of the year.
This concludes my part of the presentation. I'm now handing over to Taco.
Thank you, Harald. I will make some comments on the financials and outlook, and then we'll go to the Q and A. Group revenue increased year on year by 8% as we reported revenue of €133,000,000 Location Technology grew 10% to €1,300,000 for the 2nd quarter. Let me go through revenue business by business. Automotive revenue was €61,000,000 an increase of 18% compared with the same quarter last year.
Automotive operational revenue, which is IFRS revenue adjusted for the movement in deferred revenue, was €63,000,000 an increase of 63%. The strong year on year growth came despite supply chain constraints In Automotive Industry, a factory closure impacted the comparative quarter following COVID-nineteen lockdown restrictions. Enterprise reported revenue of $42,000,000 and Consumer reported revenue of $30,000,000 Revenue from both units was flat year on year. As most of our enterprise revenue is based on U. S.
Dollars, the year on year trend was negatively impacted by the effect of the U. S. Dollar. On an equal currency, enterprise was 7% up in the quarter. Gross margin for the Q1 was 77% compared with 86% in the same quarter last year.
During the quarter, one of our automotive customers started production of several car lines that utilize our software. This triggered the release of customer specific costs from our balance sheet, temporarily lowering our gross margin. If you adjust for the release of contract costs, the gross margin would have been 84%. For the remainder of the year, we expect gross margin to be north of 80%. Operating expenses were $124,000,000 a decrease of $46,000,000 compared with the same quarter last year.
This decrease is because of lower amortization as the Thila Atlas database acquired in 2008 were fully amortized last year. Excluding the impact of depreciation and amortization, underlying operating expenses showed a year on year increase of around 7%. This mainly reflects increases in research and development costs associated with our application layer. The free cash flow for the quarter was an Outflow of €60,000,000 compared with an outflow of €54,000,000 in the same quarter last year. The year on year improvement mainly because of higher automotive operational revenue.
We reported a net cash position of €390,000,000 at the end quarter, a decrease of €33,000,000 since the end of the Q1. The decrease is a result of share purchases made under the share buyback program and a negative free cash flow in the quarter. Now moving to the next slide. In the first half of the year, we have seen that the widespread shortage in semiconductors have impacted the automotive supply chain, which impacts car production. As automotive revenue is invoiced based on the number of cars produced that embed our software, this is expected to lead to lower automotive operational revenue and free cash flow.
Taking this into account, we have updated our guidance for the year. We now expect group revenue of around €500,000,000 €530,000,000 and Location Technology revenue between €400,000,000 €430,000,000 Our full year free cash flow is expected to be around 5% of group revenue. In the first half of the year, we have had a cash Outflow, we want to reiterate that our cash inflow is weighted to the second half of the year, particularly in the last quarter of the year due to the timing of certain customer payments. Operator, we would now like to start the Q and A session.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer And your first question is from the line of Francois Bovenis from UBS. Please go ahead.
Hi, everyone. I have a couple of questions. So maybe if we look at TomTom and from a high level perspective, You had the pandemic impacting you last year and now you have the shortage that Basically, the recovery is not happening maybe as much as you expected. You had your backlog that You had to revise down because of some long term contracts that have been revised because of the pandemic. So maybe, Howard, Lotteco, any of you, what can you give to the market to think that the worst is behind basically?
I mean, Any data points you can share that makes you confident that from here we will see an acceleration And particularly, your location technology revenues to go back to this 10% growth, I mean, double digit growth And free cash flow margin of double digit as well percentage. So can you share with us what makes you confident that the worst is behind and We should see recovery from here. It would be very helpful to reassure the investor community and have others after.
Yes. Maybe I can take that, Francois. As Harold already said And his narrative is that we are very confident with the level of deal with Kefdiva that we've seen in the first half of the year, And we are especially optimistic about the second half of the year. For us, this deal activity is a leading Cater for how the future will look like and although the pandemic and also the chip shortages have hit us hard and even harder than we Hoped or expected. With that deal activity, we share the confidence with Sector that this is a temporary phenomenon and that we will recover from this.
Okay. Okay. Thank you. And on the deals, I mean, that you see in the market, is it because of The market that is recovery, is it recovering or is it because you are winning market share or Could you add some content? Can you give a bit more flavor of how you see the deal activity playing on with TomTom and the market separately?
Yes. I think it's a combination of All of the above. I think we have a very strong application layer now, especially for the automotive industry that's well received. I think we by now Are the largest vendor of software in the automotive industry. We see good potential in the EV market.
We're particularly strong there also with our routing algorithms and our EV products, and we expect high attachments rates there. So that's also, I think, a positive. And then I think we're generally doing well in the marketplace, And it's a bit of a disappointment and slightly frustrating that it has materialized in Q1 and Q2 as we had hoped. But I'm quietly confident that there will be a level of pent up demand. Car makers are struggling to meet Demand prices are good.
2nd car prices are at an all time high. All that are indicators that the volume we have missed In Q1 and Q2, we may recover in the future to at least to an extent.
That's very clear. And you have been investing in application layer for A bit more and especially like you said like the OpEx is up 7% I mean year over year mainly driven by the application layer. Can you explain a bit more what's the fruit of this work? I mean, what's the results? And I mean, do you see I guess, it's a bit long takes a bit of time, but do you see any impact on your Deal activity or interest from the customers, anything you can give around the return on your investment on the application layer basically?
Yes. So we I think we said it for a couple of quarters now that the market is moving to an online presence with an embedded fallback position. We have been investing in that technology, and we see that carmakers are buying that from us. You don't see it in the figures now, but we will start shipping. We have won contracts for those The new application layer, we call it internally Nasket 2.
It's gone down well with the carmakers. And especially in the 2nd half, I expect to be able to sign more customers for that application layer with or without content, but At least in any case, the application layer is doing really well. And it translates into better user experience, over the year updates, up to date maps. Our traffic is really good. Our instant data is leading in the industry.
At an end user level, those are the things that really matter. And we are increasingly capable of meeting those end user requirements The and I'll say the carmakers recognize that.
And how should we think about the OpEx? I mean, going forward with the application I mean, is it something that's going to continue growing or it's going to stay there for a bit of time? I mean, Flattening, how should we think about the OpEx spend or run rate that you are running at the moment?
Well, so the application you have always it's difficult to predict. I think it won't grow Enormously at the application layer, but there's much more going on as well. There is a big change going on in mapmaking. We see the availability of all sorts of digital data, also some super sources becoming coming through That will enable us also to completely rethink and redesign the whole map making process. We have a very strong foundation with our CPP mapmaking system, but the input to that system It's going to be more and more automated as a result of much more data that are becoming available.
So we are also on the content side. We are investing to make mapmaking better, More efficient. We are hoping to as a result of that to have much more coverage in more countries, Many more attributes, and that is not just important for the automotive industry, but particularly important for the enterprise market. And as a result of a better database, also in the enterprise market, we'll be able to expand The type of customers and the type of use cases we go after, and we will be able to do it in more countries than ever before. And that is so there's a lot of change.
We're firing on all cylinders to deliver that change. I don't think that over short term, the expenses in R and D will go down. That on the longer and midterm, there are clear opportunities for massive improvements in efficiency.
And how long is it going to take? I mean, this investment and this change?
Well, it's never done, but we start already to see the effects of that approach. We are producing more data than ever. We do that mostly in automated processes, But that is an ongoing transition. It will never be finished. There will be more data become available.
There will be higher requirements on the database. But based on those new technologies and new platform, we are confident that we can create much better maps In a much more efficient way than ever before.
Okay. That's clear. And maybe last one for me, HD Maps. I mean, you mentioned Toyota HD Maps. Can you tell a bit more about ST Maps?
How is it changing versus Last quarter, is it more activity there? Anything you can give around that?
Yes. There is a lot of activity. I would like to include the whole ADAS That's going faster than AGD. The 2 are linked. They form in a way continuing.
And especially on the ADAS side, We see a lot of activity taking place there. There is a new European directive called EASA, which requires For proper traffic speed indication in the vehicle, there's a bit of Scramble going on to get that data into the vehicle. So we see a lot of activity on this side as well. So you see A steady increase in ADAS functionality, Steady increase in the level of automation of vehicles. The reliability of that of those systems is going up.
I think the full automated car is still elusive. We still don't know, exactly, when that will happen. The degree of automation that's taking place in vehicles is definitely increasing and improving rapidly, and a lot of those functions are based On databases and map content.
Okay. Thank you very much, Harold. I will leave the floor.
Thank you. Your next question Term is from the line of Andrew Gardiner from Barclays.
I have 2, please. First, perhaps for Taco, just on the updated guidance you've given us for Location Technology, I was just hoping to dive a bit deeper in terms of some of the drivers there. I can completely understand what you're saying about the semiconductor Shortages and therefore, the limitations on volumes, car volumes in the over the course of Well, recent quarters and coming quarters. But if I look at what you guys have actually guided to, at the mid Point, it's about 6% revenue growth for location technology. Enterprise looks like it's doing well, flat to maybe up a little bit this year, depending on the second half, Which then leads the automotive business similar, so up maybe mid to high single digits.
And of course, then from an operational standpoint, I know you've got the movement in deferred revenue, which we don't have perfect visibility into. But even so, if we say operational revenue for this year, you're effectively guiding to mid- to high single digit growth. It feels like that's underperforming the end market. If I look at IHS calling for 11% growth unit volume growth this year, I'm a little surprised that you guys would be below that given content gain for your type of a product. So can you help me understand why that might be?
Well, first of all, you're right. In the breakdown, we see similar trends. So a modest increase in enterprise revenue of low single digit percentage And a high single digit percentage growth for automotive. Operationally, we expect the automotive To grow with a double digit number,
very similar to what you say what this IHS is indicating.
Yes. And component effect of the semiconductor shortage Is that for certain car lines, prioritization by the OEMs has led to less silicon in the car, Affecting the take rate of our products, we're confident that it's a temporary minimum. But with some of the OEMs, they say, well, there's so large shortage of semiconductors. Let's try to push Cars out that either have a high margin or that we can actually produce. And for the latter, that has a compound effect On our sales.
But anyway, we believe that, that will be behind us, Give us give another
2 quarters or so,
but that's affecting us. So again, We agree with your breakdown of enterprise and automotive on IFRS basis operationally.
The strength of Automotive will be double digit.
Okay. So perhaps a bit more coming through the deferred revenue movement In the second half to boost that to more market levels of growth?
Yes.
Okay. And then just While looking at a little bit further, I mean, Harold, you talked about deal activity being strong and the potential or even likelihood of Pent up demand from this year being realized in future periods. Earlier this year, you guys gave us 2023 guidance for location Technology revenue of €550,000,000 Do you think that's still achievable? Is this a sort of temporary
Yes. I think that is still achievable. I don't see Anything fundamental that is pushing us, of course. So no, I don't see at this point, I don't see any reason why that would not be achievable.
And your next question is from the line of Marc Elling from ESI. Please go ahead.
Hi, thank you. Firstly, on the significant wins that you expect in the second half of 21. What how come you have that visibility? These deals are Very close or are you searching the process that it's indeed very likely that you will win them? And then what kind of deals Are that new clients that you win from the competition?
And then if you can split it up between automotive and enterprise, And that will be very useful. Thanks.
Yes. So the Deal structuring the sales process for outward contracts in particular is long. So we have Good visibility on which contracts will be awarded when. That's always subject to change and When those deals will be awarded and what we need to do to win them. And that results in a pipeline, that results In a total market that we can see and then we apply our Our expectations and weigh those opportunities and that results us in believing that there's a good opportunity for strong order intake in this year.
First half was already good. And I think in the second half of this year, there are major opportunities Available to us. Now the problem, of course, is they need to materialize. It's a 0 or a 1 at the end of the day. So it's very difficult to give you a number.
That's also not what we do. We do that in beginning of next year. We give you an overview of The order backlog and how that has changed in 2021. But if I would be a gambling man, then I say it's going to be a good year for order intake in 2021.
Okay. And the is it extension of contracts that you already have? Is it new contracts that you win from the competition? And is there you said both in automotive and enterprise, right?
Well, I'm particularly referring to the automotive because that's where you have a more structured deal process. So you have a good visibility of the pipeline,
Whereas
in enterprise, it's more short term and more event driven, I would I think in enterprise, there are good opportunities as well for us to further improve our customer base. And when I talk about the automotive opportunities, I would say it's probably half half. So half of the opportunities are existing customers with And the other 50% will be clear market share wins.
Okay. And the extensions, are those what's the dynamic there? Is That's more for the same price, you're offering your new products with more midwoven functionality, but pricing remains relatively stable?
Yes. Typically, it's related to a new generation of hardware and a new generation of Vehicles that are planned for and during those So you typically win or lose, but we have to win The software and the content for the next generation of vehicle models for each particular brand. So that's kind of how it works. And then in between, there is the other bits and pieces and things are moving and extensions and whatnot. But the big deals tend to be linked To a new generation of vehicles with a new generation of in vehicle technology.
Okay. Clear. Thanks.
I think what we also see I think there is a trend visible. I think a couple of years back, OEMs would really go from deal to deal and generation to generation and everything would be reset to 0. And then Defender with the best Product price combination would typically win. What we see is more longevity And more strategic alignment and the willingness of carmakers To start from scratch is reducing. And I think that's a good I think for us because we have a I think with our customers a good reputation of doing what we promised to do, Being on time, on quality, be collaborative, typically the working relationships Our NGEs and product people have with their counterparts in the OEM industry are could be characterized by good And on a high level of trust.
And that helps us, of course, in extending and deepening those partnerships further. And because software is getting more complex and there's more moving parts, there is a clear economic rationale Also to keep building and deepen those relationships further and make them more strategic in their nature. Does it make sense?
Yes, yes, clear. And then maybe then I think on the enterprise side, Just to be a 100% sure, the underlying business is actually growing a bit more, right? I mean, the U. S. Dollar is still pushing it down a bit.
So it's more like mid single digit like for like?
For Q2, you mean?
Yes. Or maybe in general, the trend that
you're seeing there. Yes. No, but on the settlement, yes, for IFRS, we think it is in the modest The increase for full year, Q2 specific, the increase was Like for like currency, 8%.
Okay, clear. Thanks.
Thank you.
Since there are no further questions, I would like to thank you all for joining us this afternoon. Operator, you can close the call.
Thank you. That concludes the presentation today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.