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M&A announcement

Jan 27, 2026

Operator

I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Mike Emmett, CEO and Managing Director. Please go ahead.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Good morning, and thank you for joining us this morning. I'm pleased to announce that AUB Group has agreed to acquire Prestige Insurance Holdings in the U.K. for GBP 219 million, AUD 432 million, based on an EBITDA multiple of 12.9x before taking into account cost synergies. Prestige is a diversified insurance business comprising a portfolio of broking and underwriting agency businesses, as well as an insurtech platform. The business is guided by a highly experienced and respected leadership team, which will continue to drive its Coversure. The acquisition is highly complementary to AUB's strategy and will enable us to accelerate the delivery of growth and margin benefits planned for the U.K. and the International division. In December 2025, we also completed step-ups of our equity stakes in 360 Underwriting Solutions.

Originally, these step-ups were planned for the second half of 2026; however, our equity partners requested we bring them slightly forward to December. Given the requirement to fund the Prestige acquisition together with the step-up investments in 360 and Pacific Indemnity, and to ensure we retain sufficient funds for step-up investments likely to arise later in calendar year 2026, we have chosen to secure a level of funding that exceeds the amount needed solely for the Prestige investment. To achieve this, we've increased our debt facility by $ 200 million, and today are launching an underwritten $ 400 million institutional placement at an offer price of $ 29.40. A non-underwritten share purchase plan will also be made available to eligible shareholders.

On a pro forma basis, post-Prestige, these step-up investments, the capital raising, and the increase in our debt facility are leveraged, will be circa 2.47 times, and we will have circa AUD 303 million of cash and undrawn debt available, providing us flexibility to deploy capital in a disciplined manner over time. While the leverage has increased since our financial year 2025 result, we are comfortable with this level in the context of the continued strong performance of the business and this highly strategic opportunity, noting that our business has a strong track record of earnings growth and cash generation, which will lead to a natural deleveraging over time, as we have demonstrated strongly in the past. The investments in Prestige and the step-ups are expected to be EPS-neutral pre-synergies and low to mid-single-digit EPS accretive post-synergies for calendar year 2025 on a pro forma basis.

The surplus cash and debt headroom resulting from the equity raise is expected to lead to additional EPS accretion over time, as and when the funds are deployed. While we are still working through the preparation of our expected first half 2026 underlying net profit after tax to be in the range of $ 90 million-$ 91 million. On slide 8, v iew of performance in the first half of 2026 based on unaudited preliminary results. As mentioned, we anticipate the underlying net profit after tax for the first half to be in the range of $ 90 million-$9 1 million, representing growth of 13.4%-14.7% on the prior calendar period. During the first half of 2026, we observed strong performance in most of the group.

We are very pleased with the result the team delivered in the first half, which has been achieved in the face of some meaningful FX headwinds. There are two aspects to this. Firstly, during the first half of 2026, on a constant currency basis, using first half 2025 FX rates, the underlying net profit after tax would have been $2.2 million higher. Secondly, I'd also highlight that this continued devaluation means that as our hedge contracts mature, they are repricing at lower spot rates such that the benefit of the hedges is diminishing over time. For example, the benefit from FX hedges reduced during the first half of 2026 versus the first half of 2025 by approximately $1.8 million. Against this backdrop, the team has delivered strong divisional performance now.

Our Australian Broking division continues to deliver solid performance, notwithstanding the reduction in interest income, as well as challenging and highly competitive conditions in the large and corporate segment of the market. The Underwriting Agencies division enjoyed another strong half, although strata agencies struggled in a challenging market with competitors continuing to significantly reduce rates. The International division performed well, and margin improvement initiatives are starting to deliver tangible benefits. We are also beginning to see pleasing momentum from newly seeded businesses in this division. BizCover continued its positive trajectory, delivering another half of robust organic top-line growth and margin expansion, both locally and in their offshore markets. New Zealand results for the half were disappointing and significantly underperformed expectations. There's been a weakness in the corporate market across New Zealand, and this has impacted the business, and our initiatives to grow market share have not delivered satisfactorily.

We are working on performance outcomes. In summary, during the first half, we saw solid to strong performance across much of the business, muted by the disappointing results in New Zealand and the negative impact of currency devaluation. Based on the strong business performance in one half 2026, we are reaffirming guidance in the range of $ 215 million-$ 227 million, despite the anticipated continuation of FX headwinds during the second half. This guidance note is before the impact of the Prestige acquisition and the step-up investments. It's important to note that the step-ups were already planned to occur in financial year 2026. They have, however, simply been brought forward slightly into the first half. Additionally, the completion of the Prestige transaction is subject to FCA approval. We expect this to most likely take place during the fourth quarter of financial year 2026. An additional item I want to highlight.

Impairments in the first half of 2026 of circa AUD 39 million of this relates to a brokerage focused on the corporate segment in Australia, and a further AUD 30 million relates to historical [acquisition] that took place in early calendar year 2025. These impairments relate to the carrying value of the broker registers, as well as to the assessment of the carrying value of Goodwill for these respective businesses. Moving to slide 13, which provides an overview of Prestige. Prestige was established in 1973 in Belfast and has built a strong portfolio of businesses across the U.K. and Ireland. The group places over GBP 300 million of premium with an EBITDA of GBP 17.5 million in calendar year 2025. The business runs at a 30% margin and has a significant and experienced team led by Trevor Shaw, a respected senior industry leader.

On slide 14, you'll note that Prestige bears a strong resemblance to Australian operations. They have a portfolio comprised of retail brokerages, underwriting agencies, and a highly successful insurtech. In effect, this acquisition, complemented by our equity partnerships with Movo and Momentum, both leading U.K.-appointed rep networks, positions us to replicate the model and structure we have in place in Australia and enables us to take advantage of growth and optimization opportunities across the U.K. market. Our success in achieving the scale and maturity in retail broking in the U.K. is described on slide 16. Following this investment in Prestige, AUB's U.K. retail broking portfolio, excluding MGAs, will place close to GBP 550 million in premium, with teams interacting with our clients across more than 200 locations.

Similarly, the underwriting agency portfolio, writing GBP 180 million of premium, not only delivering placement capacity for our brokers and clients, but also the ability to seed or bolt on new agencies to further scale the portfolio, consistent with the model we have successfully executed in Australia. Slide 18 illustrates the breadth of the portfolio we've built in the U.K., one that is strongly aligned to the foundational structures that underpin our success in Australia. This includes strong, well-established and respected authorized rep networks, licensed retail brokerages, and both general and specialist underwriting agencies. In addition, we now have equity stakes in two distinctive insurtech players that we can deploy to utilize across our growing portfolio. All of the building blocks for growth are now in place. Prestige is already an excellent business on a standalone basis.

It’s the synergies we expect to unlock, and these are summarized on slide 19. Please note that for the purposes of estimating synergies, we have only quantified cost-out opportunities, and these are expected to be greater than $10 million by the end of FY 2027 on a run rate basis. In addition, we are optimistic that additional upside will be delivered through revenue synergies over time. Our pre-existing Tysers Retail business and the need to optimize the middle and back office efficiencies to unlock this potential. This represents our first synergy area to leverage Prestige’s scale and operational capacity, whilst also being able to drive focus and efficiency in Tysers Wholesale by focusing the middle and back office support on that area. Secondly, we will streamline and rationalize overlapping functions across Tysers Retail and Prestige.

The existing Tysers Retail operation will enable us to leverage Prestige team's experience and capability. Fourth, the additional scale and breadth we achieve through this merger will increase our ability to enhance commercial arrangements with industry partners. Fifthly, we see meaningful opportunity to enhance the flow of business between AUB's expanded MGA portfolio. And finally, leveraging Tysers Wholesale wherever possible to place retail MGA binders and individual risks into Lloyd's. And this follows the model and approach we demonstrated when we acquired Tysers Wholesale and delivered these synergies by placing Australian and New Zealand volumes into Tysers. In summary, we believe there are significant benefits to be gained from these areas, with many that are as yet unquantified. We've previously described our ambition to grow in the U.K. retail market.

On slide 21, we've summarized the reasons why we have targeted retail in the U.K. and the considered approach in U.K. retail. So why U.K. retail? This is a core strength of AUB making businesses and MGAs. We have an outstanding platform to leverage in the U.K. through Tysers, and we know that our owner-driver equity model is a key differentiator, not only in Australia and New Zealand, but also in the U.K., where our discussions have met with significant engagement and enthusiasm. The U.K. broking market is at least twice the size of the market in Australia. We identified five areas of focus that we felt would be necessary to position ourselves for success in the U.K. retail. Firstly, to split our Tysers Retail from Wholesale.

This was completed last year, except for the middle and back office separation, which was deferred until we made an investment like Prestige. This will result in a far more fit-for-purpose middle and back office setup, given the differences in market focus between our Tysers Wholesale and U.K. retail businesses. Secondly, to invest in at least one and ideally two highly regarded authorized or appointed rep networks. We have two in Australia, and we now obviously have our equity stakes in Momentum [and] about a national licensed brokerage with a national footprint and brand. Post completion, we intend to rebadge our Tysers Retail business under the Prestige brand, which will now be our go-to-market in the U.K. and operate as our national licensed brokerage. Fourthly, to grow a portfolio of MGAs that support the retail broking businesses in both general and specialist commercial products.

And finally, to build out a selective portfolio of insurtech assets that can be deployed in AUB network businesses. We're pleased with the significant process progress, apologies, achieved to date. And as you can see, the acquisition of Prestige significantly enhances our ability to deliver on the last three building blocks. We are very pleased to have secured an investment in a business of Prestige's caliber. It represents an excellent strategic fit with AUB Group, and we are delighted to welcome Trevor and his team into the AUB family. This acquisition positions us incredibly well to accelerate our growth in the U.K. market and to build a set of businesses in the U.K. that, in time, will rival the quality and scale of our Australian portfolio.

The rest of the slides in the pack cover the equity raise in more detail, and I will leave these for you to work through in detail. I'll now hand over to the moderator to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. If you are on speakerphone, please pick up the handset to ask your question. Your first question comes from Tim Lawson with Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Tim Lawson
Division Director, Macquarie

Hi, Mike. Thanks for taking my questions. You've talked to the strategic rationale of the Prestige transaction. Can you just talk about how prepared you are in terms of from an inside-looking-out U.K. retail perspective and how ready they are for this change?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Yeah. So, well, in fact, I think if we hadn't have made an acquisition like Prestige in the first six months of calendar year 2026, I think we would then start missing out the opportunities that we've prepared for. So, in effect, the last 18 months, we've been separating our Tysers Retail and our technology functions for exactly this type of structure and opportunity. We just didn't have, if you like, the platform or foundation to move on to. So we've done everything we can with Tysers Retail by having effectively a sort of a platform that we could move it on to. So, short answer, Tim, I think the timing is spot on, and in fact, the last 18 months have been pointing to and preparing for this point.

Tim Lawson
Division Director, Macquarie

Okay. And then just in terms of the, if you look back to the original Tysers transaction, you talked a bit about the sort of Wholesale opportunities from ANZ Australia, ANZ AUB into the U.K. market, and then obviously commercial terms as well. Can you just, you haven't talked in as much detail around those sort of commercial term step-ups and Wholesale opportunity in this case. Can you sort of maybe sort of contrast the differences as to why that's the situation?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Yeah, I think we had, so we had been preparing and determining the potential value. We set up a business specifically called Austbrokers Placements so that we could anticipate and understand the benefits we'd get from a Wholesale investment. And I suppose in a way, we'd almost geared everything up to estimate those synergies a year before we even embarked on the Tysers investment.

And it was also clearer because MGA binder placements, you can much more tangibly determine. And so I guess it's not, do I believe the benefits are there or not? It's the confidence in being able to estimate them with certainty that we're confident enough to explicitly talk numbers with the market, I think. So it's more about our confidence in estimation than our confidence in there.

Tim Lawson
Division Director, Macquarie

Okay. And then maybe just a sort of question on the BAU M&A and the step-up M&A. We think about those two separately. Just, it's obviously been an active period. You called out that the step-ups have sort of maybe fallen in this half rather than the next half.

Just anything in particular as to what's behind that timing, why you think there might be a slightly slower period between you sort of called out the end of the calendar year as being maybe the next point of time where there might be some more activity. Just understand that cycle of timing, please.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Well, I think I said that we agreed with the vendors on Pacific Indemnity and 360. I think to be more explicit, we are working through a restructuring of our underwriting agency's portfolio in terms of management and coordination. And we've built a really nice portfolio of agencies. We are now looking to how do we consolidate and optimize those. And so in a way, part of the step-up in equity was to facilitate some consolidation activity that we anticipate we can make over the next six months. That's the first point.

So that really precipitated part of why we wanted to take these step-ups and then also why we felt it was easier to do it earlier than later. So that piece specifically, I think probably worth emphasizing that when we talk about consolidating businesses, I've spoken for several years about the importance of consolidations in terms of our optimizing of our portfolio and the margin improvement. But very often, the consolidations and the step-ups are linked because in some cases, to facilitate a consolidation, we also take a step-up in equity to enable that consolidation and vice versa. And so there's a piece which is around if we couldn't take step-ups, we would struggle to action the consolidation. There'd be less value in the benefit.

And so, long answer to a short question, we anticipate that there are lots of opportunities for us to continue to consolidate the portfolio, to continue to step up our equity stakes. And that's part of why we effectively are looking to raise more equity than is purely needed for the Prestige acquisition. The second piece is that the reason for the timing is actually more about just a broader plan in terms of the way in which we can drive some efficiencies across the business.

Tim Lawson
Division Director, Macquarie

Okay. Thanks. Very clear. That's my questions. Thank you.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Thanks, Tim.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. We'll now pause a short moment for questions to register. Your next question comes from Olivier Coulon with E&P Financial Group. Please go ahead.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Hi, guys. Just have a question on the guidance. So you mentioned that it's pre the acceleration of the step-ups, which presumably will increase guidance. But then you don't mention whether it's adjusted for the $ 400 million capital raising. So is that inclusive of that? Because I suppose depending on what you do with the cash, that will obviously kind of generate some NPAT.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Well, so there'll be a, I mean, it's slightly swings and roundabouts, Olivier. I think probably four comments I'd make. The first one is obviously the difference to, in terms of the step-ups, is really the net benefit you get between the debt cost versus the profit contribution over a few months being the acceleration. One of those was going to be in June, and the other one was going to be in April. It's not a full half of benefit.

Obviously, you've got to look at the debt cost piece. That's the first point. Second point is purely on a, if you're talking about the difference in the time between the raise today and the deployment of the capital for Prestige and pick a date, say, end of March, end of April, then yes, there is some benefit in terms of an interest piece. But we also obviously have slightly offsetting that is facility costs and deployment of the debt component. There's a hard-to-quantify FX headwind that we anticipate in the same period. So if you take all of those things in the rounds, so the positive is business is performing arguably ahead of expectation. Headwinds, particularly from FX and New Zealand underperformance. In parallel, you've got some swings and roundabouts in terms of funding costs, a bit of.

And so we're confident that guidance range is still in play. Business is performing well. No reason to have, frankly, no reason to say strong confidence in increasing guidance. No reason to feel nervous about the other situation. But just too early to say, given uncertainty around interest rates, FX rates, timing of the Prestige completion, et cetera. There's a whole bunch of variables in there that we think just sensibly we stick middle of the road, hit the ball straight, and we just get on with things.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

I appreciate that. I mean, particularly given the importance of the fourth quarter. Just maybe have another crack at that revenue synergy because I know that you obviously played a reasonably straight bet. So, I mean, it sounds like you're very confident that there will be some.

You don't, at this stage, want to kind of go on the record as putting a number out there. I mean, is there a yardstick that we can potentially use as a reference case to the Tysers deal?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Different, right? It really is so different. So the reason that I've skirted away from it is precisely because I think it is, but too uncertain to try and estimate. And so we're absolutely going to do everything we can to optimize that. But the fact is we're buying a really good quality asset. We're putting in place a strategic sort of set of building blocks in the business that can drive flywheel-type benefits. We know that it's interesting enough and exciting enough to focus on, but not tangible or certain enough for us to be able to estimate or commit to.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Yeah. Okay. I appreciate that. Thanks. Maybe just the last one from me. I mean, I don't want to point at a sore spot, but just the write-down of the goodwill relating to that commercial broker. I mean, is that just a function or has something gone wrong from a material or personnel perspective?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

No. So, I mean, and look, Nick, who's on the line listening as I say this. So let me be brutal about, and I'm an accountant. I'm allowed to be brutal about accounting standards. So here's how it works, right? When you buy a brokerage, so this is our corporate broker, very imaginatively called Austbrokers Corporate. It's our corporate broker. It bought a business in 2022. What happens when you buy a broking business, and it had a smallish portfolio, very large clients?

When you buy a business, you attribute, and apologies if I'm teaching you basics, you attribute a portion of the purchase price to the value of the client portfolio that's been bought. Okay? Then the accounting approach is we then write off that we amortize that broking register over 10 or 12 years, depending on the part of the business and the types of clients. If during that period of 10-12 years, any of those clients leave the business, then you write off whatever the carrying value is attributed to that client based on the original acquisition. Now, the reason I'm going into that detail is, so the flaw in it is if let's say you bought 10 clients, one of them leaves, and nine of them double in value and revenue over that period, you only have a write-off.

You never recognize that actually what you bought was really valuable, right? So that's the challenge with the broker register amortization. The lion's share of the impairments relate to sort of writing off the carrying value of these clients. And then there's a consequential goodwill adjustment based on sort of, if you like, a present value of the discounted cash flow view of the income that would have come from it. So I don't want to make it sound, I don't want to trivialize it, but I do just want to emphasize that these don't talk to any systemic issue with the business. It is a mature, seasoned practice. I also want to emphasize that the combination of broking register and goodwill intangibles is at about $ 2.5 billion on the balance sheet, and this is $ 39 million of that.

So again, I'm trying not to trivialize it, but equally, I want to put it in context. So I want to be very explicit about it so that there were no surprises out of that. And then what I want to do is just make sure that also you understand the context of it.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Yeah. No, I appreciate that. So I mean, I guess what you're saying is if there's a step-up in growth churn, you're going to get more write-offs even if net churn hasn't really changed.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Frankly, in this corporate business, it's one client that we lost. And in Tysers, it's actually with Tysers, obviously, lags. So you might recall, and I bored you guys with in February and in August, we spoke about property and casualty team, two teams that had left or were leaving. And it's the lag effect of, on the balance sheet, recognizing that adjustment to the carrying value of the clients related to the teams leaving.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Yeah. I appreciate that. I'll let somebody else have a go on the questions. Thanks, Mike. Appreciate it.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Thanks very much, Olivier.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone. Your next question comes from Julian Braganza with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Julian Braganza
Executive Director, Goldman Sachs

Good morning, Mike. Thanks so much for taking our questions. Just the first one. Good morning. Thanks. Can you maybe just talk about premium rate increases that you're seeing across the different portfolios at the moment? I think at the first quarter, 5%-7% rate in the Australian broking portfolio.

So I just want to clarify just what you're seeing at the moment in Australian broking and also just across some of the other portfolios as well. Thank you.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Sure, Julian. So we're not quite at the point of having, so I'll have to talk anecdotally. We're not at the point of being able to do our average income per client explicit pieces. I will talk about that in February as I always do. So I suppose there's a piece where I don't want to talk explicitly about the numbers and the ranges until we've done, we do a fairly detailed piece of work about that. We just haven't done because it's very early. It's quite premature for us in terms of talking about results.

What I would say is that what we are seeing is premium rates in New Zealand, particularly in the larger end of the market, so sort of mid to large corporate, et cetera, we're seeing those rates continuing to soften even though rationally we don't think they should. And in Australia, we're seeing a whole mixed bag according to risk classes. But on balance as a portfolio, the premium rates are still in that - they're certainly not 1% or 2%. They're in the 5%, 6%, 7% range. But I will talk explicitly about that when we do the results presentation in February.

Julian Braganza
Executive Director, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Got it. No, that's clear. And then maybe just in terms of some of the organic trends that you're seeing across the U.K. Tysers business, just the Wholesale business, just interested in some of the discussion there, just in terms of what are you seeing organically in the Tysers business and also just for the Prestige business over the last few years, if you can talk to some of the organic growth trends there as well, that'd be useful. Thanks.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Sure. So again, I mean, I think some of this, I don't want to sort of jump the gun. Probably some of these are better to talk about at our February results soon in. But I think broadly, what we're seeing in Tysers is good organic growth. Well, let me rather say international and then Wholesale because we're now, we're sort of using a few brands in Wholesale now.

We're sort of partitioning out how we go to market, et cetera. So broadly, we're seeing, as I've previously sort of outlined, our strategy is all classes of business and certain types of risk and accelerating others. And so at a headline level, we're seeing organic growth in the sort of single-digit but not low single-digit sort of range. But underneath that, we're seeing very strong organic growth in some of our key focus business areas, obviously muted or offset by some other areas where in some cases we consciously shrinking them. But again, probably more appropriate to talk to with some degree of color and detail at the February results.

Julian Braganza
Executive Director, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Got it. No, that's clear. And then maybe just to provide a little bit of color in terms of the margin differential between U.K. retail and also just the Tysers business. I know it's a consolidated margin target of 32% across the portfolio and these acquisitions. Just to provide a bit of color on how we're thinking about the Tysers Wholesale business from here.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Yeah. So the 32% margin target, I think I spoke about this in February last year, but maybe in August only. So again, emphasizing the targets are obviously fairly broad brush determinations of what is structurally feasible in a three to five year time horizon. So the 32% target was predicated on three assumptions. One, that Wholesale, we should be able to run our portfolio of Wholesale businesses at 25%. Secondly, that U.K. retail businesses, optimized U.K. retail businesses, should run at 35%. And thirdly, that retail needs to be at least 25% of our portfolio so that the higher margin in retail is significant enough to, on a weighted basis, achieve the 32%.

So obviously, as retail grows, it sort of drags the margin up. Structurally, Wholesale businesses tend to run at a lower margin than retail businesses. Structurally, MGAs tend to run at higher margins than pure broking businesses. Part of achieving that 32% margin target in the International division is about getting scale in retail broking and in MGAs and optimizing margin in all three of them. That's broadly what our three to five year horizon was when we spoke about the 32% margin.

Julian Braganza
Executive Director, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Got it. No, that's clear. Then just a final question for me in terms of just the guidance. I can see that that's been retained for FY 2026. But just in terms of the contribution of the growth, I think previously it flagged 3%. Materially, is that still how you're thinking about the growth from FY 2025, or has that changed more towards an acquisitive skew?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

No. And again, I'll talk in more detail about this more explicitly at the February results. But broadly, if you look at the first half, we've seen, if you look back at our August sort of broad summary of results, we had organic contribution, contribution from acquisitions, and the impact of FX and debt costs. All three of them are higher than I would have sort of anticipated and based on what we thought. So organic growth has been better than we predicted. Growth from acquisitions has been better than predicted. Unfortunately, the headwinds from FX and debt costs have also been greater. And therefore, on a net basis, we've landed pretty much squarely where we anticipated.

Julian Braganza
Executive Director, Goldman Sachs

Got it. Excellent. No, thanks so much for that, Mike. Much appreciated.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Absolutely a pleasure, Julian.

Operator

Once again, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone. We'll now pause a short moment for any final questions to register. Your next question comes from Andrew Adams with Barrenjoey. Please go ahead.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Hi, Mike. You got me?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Hi, Andrew.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

The $ 200 million in first half 2026. Is that mostly debt funded?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Well, so I suppose there's a hot off the press bit of that, which is the M&A spend, which relates to so we completed where we did the Pacific and 360 acquisitions right at the tail end of December. So yes, although it was debt funded, anticipating sort of a, let's call it a restructuring. So yes.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Yeah. And multiples around, what, 13x on average for that $ 200 million?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Correct. Correct.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

And then just on Prestige, who gets the money? Who's the seller? Is it all management, or is there third-party owners in there, or?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

So it's a mixed bag. So it's a 50-year-old business. The management team, the CEO has been in place for 10 years, been in role for 10 years. Management team range from seven to 15 years of tenure. Originally, it was so it's a combination of families that originally founded the business, and then largely, it's sort of almost professionalized over time. The family members have retired, moved to different things, et cetera, in some cases no longer around. And so there was a transactions. They didn't have a practice of retiring shareholders, exiting as shareholders. So you had a slug of the equity owned by these retired, let's call them original founders.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

So how much of the equity goes to people still in the business, or is most of it going to people no longer in the business?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Yeah. So in fact, the current management team owned, they've sold down half of their equity. So effectively, I'm going to round up. Yeah. I'm going to round up. So they previously owned 10%. They now will own 5%. And so obviously, they're the ones that we are partly recognizing. For a number of them, they're wanting to use it to help pay down personal debt and mortgages and stuff. But for them, the full point, whatever percent that they're retaining remains their sort of key primary asset, personal asset. The rest were now, there was actually there's also a private equity firm, niche private equity firm that specialized only in owning small majority or large minority type stakes, plus this family chunk. So that combination we bought out. We consciously bought out. There were options around whether we should buy all of them.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

So that combination's the bulk of it, is that right? Like the combination is 90%.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Correct. Correct. Yeah. Correct.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

The private equity's how much of that split? About 50% of that, or?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Yeah. So it's about I don't want to go too much into the detail, but yes.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Yeah. Cool. And I mean, is there any earning in future years, or have they got all their money now, or is there anything that comes later, or they've?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

So no or not. This is the no.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Okay. Cool. And then just on the if I can, just on the Prestige numbers, still trying to put together a bit of history here. I mean, can you give us a bit of a sense for the growth in calendar year 2025 and what we expect in 2026?

Because it feels like part of that U.K. market's a bit like what you outlined in New Zealand at the moment. So GWP and revenue growth's a bit tough at this stage. Is that similar to what you saw in Prestige in the second half of 2025, or?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

No. So I think the key thing with Prestige is they've been growing really well in the commercial segments and the specialty segments that we're really interested in. And in parallel, they've been reducing their exposure and investment in personal lines, so home and motor. And the areas where it has been very competitive. So actually, in all the areas that we're really interested in, they've seen really good growth. There are actually some segments where we've agreed with them.

They had some during the process, we've agreed areas that weren't really areas of interest to us that have been carved out and sort of removed, et cetera, et cetera. So I mean, broadly, I think they've demonstrated an ability to do three key things that we really care about. One, they've grown they know how to grow businesses. They're very well established with the broker market and segment, and they know how to grow top line in the commercial and specialty areas. So that's the first thing. Secondly, they've demonstrated they're not.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

On that first thing, so the GBP 59 million revenue in calendar 2025, was that up 10% or so on 2024, or any kind of rough numbers you can give there?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Yeah. So I think it's high single-digit growth over the medium term.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Again, the thing I care about always is profit growth, but yes. Yeah. We'll get to that one. Then the split of commission and fee, which I guess you historically disclosed for Australia and other businesses. Any kind of comments you can make there on that GWP conversion into commission and fee?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

No. So again, probably some so I think the split in commercial is pretty much exactly what we'd expect and anticipate in the U.K.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Okay. Cool. Sorry, sorry to cut in on before, but then I guess maybe onto the margin, as you said. The 30% margin, how has that tracked over the last couple of years?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Yeah. Pretty consistently. I think one of the things that I really like is that they are not only good brokers, they're good business people. So they know how to run a business. I mean, the easiest thing in the world is revenue grows and then profit grows.

It's much better to prove that you can deliver margin improvement irrespective of what the revenue environment looks like. And they're just very sensible, mature experience.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Which makes it a little bit harder for us to expand the margin. If they're so good at doing it, it's probably a bit harder to get margin expansion from here, would it be?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

No. No. Because I think, frankly, part of the 30% is all about scale, right, and I think investing in things and then improving margin.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Yeah. And then just the comment you made there on the carve-out some businesses. So obviously, we speak to synergies, but I mean, is there any expected leakages? I guess we saw team departures and account losses, et cetera, with Tysers.

Is there any more business in this Prestige that you're not happy with that we can expect to go so we go backwards before we go forwards, or squeezed based?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

No. No. No. Completely different sort of context, et cetera. Yeah. So no. I mean, Prestige is perfect play for us. Products and teams align. And structurally, they're just structured completely differently.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

All right. Great. Thanks very much, Mike.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

I think question about margin improvement. I think the Tysers U.K. piece plays a key role here because the combination effectively, we're doing what we've done in Australia sort of after the fact. We're doing at the time of acquiring Prestige. So actually, the combination of the two businesses will lift both businesses' margins. And so firstly, Tysers Retail doesn't operate anywhere close to Prestige's margin.

But the irony is Tysers Retail not only will move to Prestige's margin, but actually will help Prestige improve their margin as well.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

So at a 2027 exit rate, or is that a couple of years away?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Hard to predict. I'll tell you in 2027.

Andrew Adams
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

All right. Cool. Thanks very much, Mike.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Thanks, Andrew.

Operator

Your next question comes from Olivier Coulon with E&P Financial Group. Please go ahead.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Hi, Mike. So it might have been answered previously, but the step-up, you said that that was at around a 13x multiple.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Olivier?

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

The step-ups that you did in Pacific Indemnity and 360, what was the effective multiple on that, roughly?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

So effectively, the multiples were so again, not talking explicitly because that wouldn't be fair to the businesses. Multiples to correlate with the multiples that we had previously transacted at.

So you can go and look at the Pacific Indemnity acquisition, et cetera. So I think the key point is it's not like our bolt-ons or our historic step-ups in smaller businesses where it might be in that 8x or 9x range. These are big mature, high margin, high growth businesses, and so you'd expect the multiples to be higher. And we did disclose the types of multiples, for example, when we did the cap raise for Pacific Indemnity, et cetera. So the multiples for those types of businesses are more in that 12x-13x range.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. And sorry, does that include the earnout, which I think you had for Pacific Indemnity, or is that still to come?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Well, we haven't included the cost of the earnout in these step-ups because that related to the original acquisition. But yes, we did deploy capital in the first half as part of that earnout.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Right. Sorry. But is that earnout included in that $ 200 million number, or is it exclusive of that?

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

No. No. Excluded from that.

Olivier Coulon
Executive Director, E&P Financial Group

Thanks. Appreciate it.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to Mr. Emmett for closing remarks.

Mike Emmett
CEO and Managing Director, AUB Group

Thanks, everybody. So look, in summary, I think we had a good first half. We've managed to secure a great asset, and we're really excited about the strategy and opportunity that we have in U.K. retail. So thank you very much for joining us this morning, for listening, and we look forward to your support on this exciting next stage of our growth journey. Thank you and have a lovely day.

Operator

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for.

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