Finally, I would like to advise all participants that this call is being recorded. I'd now like to welcome Anthony Hynes, Executive Chairman, to begin the conference. Anthony, over to you.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the EML Payments Limited H1 FY 2026 results telecall. Excuse me. I'm Anthony Hynes, Executive Chairman, and it's great to be here with our new CFO, Stuart Will, to report our interim results for FY 2026 and provide an update on our progress on EML 2.0. Following our presentation, we'll open a call to questions. I refer you to the ASX announcements, which were issued by EML Payments Limited this morning and form the basis for this call. Let's kick this off. Moderator, moving to slide four, please. I'd like to commence today's presentation with a summary of our first half progress against the key themes of this transformation year.
First, I've made it clear to our investors and to our internal team that FY 26 is the final year of our restructuring program, focused on laying the foundation for sustainable double-digit growth in the years to come. Project Arlo will naturally continue past June 30, 2026, but our plan is to close out organizational and management restructuring, key process reengineering, and the standardization of our internal toolkit by the end of this financial year. We're on track and have completed a significant body of work in H1. We have refreshed management at all levels of the organization, and our output has increased dramatically, thanks to a re-energized team, aided by fresh talent, and importantly, they are working together as one EML. We're also more efficient. Our Global Op Center is just one example, allowing us to recycle expenditure into commercial functions, supporting future growth.
Second, our commercial team is hitting its strides. The market in which we operate are growing, and we're now on the pitch competing and winning in a meaningful way. It's terrific to see so much activity. There is now a clear and evident growth mindset permeating the business. The vast majority of the pipeline is for existing product sets delivered by our existing infrastructure. Over time, Arlo will expand this capability materially. Third, product development is now part of our operating cadence, which will fuel future growth alongside organic performance. We have welcomed a talented group of product managers into the business in recent times and are busy advancing several initiatives, all of which are aligned to client needs with a clear path to market.
Importantly, product development is now a structured cross-functional activity focused on optimizing commercial outcomes and creating sound operational platforms so that we avoid the challenges of the past. A more efficient EML, combined with a strong order book and growing pipeline, supports our EML 2.0 strategy and performance targets. We have, however, seen some lag in new client onboarding over the last four months, which has resulted in the tightening of this year's guidance range from what was AUD 58 million-AUD 64 million, down to AUD 58 million-AUD 60 million. I'm energized by our progress in the first half. Importantly, we are winning where it matters, both commercially and in terms of building the infrastructure for our future success. Moving to slide five, please. I'll summarize our performance for the half, Stuart will cover this in more detail shortly.
Revenue for the period was down 6% on PCP to AUD 108.4 million, with customer revenue excluding flat interest income down 4% to AUD 79.4 million. The loss of a number of customers for various reasons in H2 FY2024 suppressed customer revenue growth somewhat. Pleasingly, the run-off of these programs is almost complete. Interest income was lower in H1, reflecting lower central bank rates flowing through to our yields. This continues to be well managed, and the downwards curve on cash rates remains consistent with our projections. We do see less volatility in the period ahead compared to the experience over the last 12 months. Overheads were well managed during the period, down marginally on PCP, with an AUD 1.3 million run rate better than H2 FY2025.
Quarter-on-quarter, we improved AUD 3.6 million, demonstrating improved efficiency and better control over resource levels. Underlying EBITDA was down 16% on PCP to AUD 28 million. This was largely driven by the impact of one-off non-recurring income in H1 FY 2025 and terminating clients from 2024. Our cash balance reduced by AUD 11.5 million against 30 June 2025, reflecting the provisional class action settlement payment, PFS loan repayment, and capital expenditure for Project Arlo. Overall, liquidity is sound. Moving to slide six, please. Shareholders know that I have a keen interest in accountability and execution. A key part of that is regularly reporting against our plans. There are three key pillars supporting our growth and efficiency agendas through to FY 2028. Firstly, building a global operating model to move away from silos and drive efficiency and scale benefits.
Reviving our revenue engine by rebuilding our commercial and product teams to capture the significant opportunities that we see in the market. Third, deploying a single technology platform across EML to dramatically increase our speed, digitize manual processes, and drive consistency of offering across all of our markets. On our global operating model, we have this deployed, which aligns with align resources together to build scale, synergy, and quality. We're clearly seeing the benefit of this structure and a focused and refreshed leadership team across both day-to-day operations and the larger bodies of work. Our Global Operations Center, established a year and a half, has grown quickly to 18 FTE and is forecast to double or more over the next six months. We're seeing a 35% cost saving on these roles versus traditional market employment, and the talent pool of qualified English-speaking candidates is significant.
We're now on a single HR information system. We've gone from five payroll systems to one. This has seen streamlining of our HR operations, with further advancements in both L&D and engagement over the coming quarter. I'm very pleased to report that we actually have engagement now. On our revived revenue engine, I'll talk further to the pipeline and order book shortly, but hitting the highlights for the half. We exceeded our pipeline target of AUD 90 million at 31 December, with a result of AUD 91.5. Our conversion rate is ahead of target. We continued to renew our largest clients with a further top five renewal during the half, which was well ahead of cycle. Commercial and product leadership continues to attract investment in response to opportunities and client demand. On our single technology platform, Project Arlo, core platform build is in full swing.
In parallel, migration planning is underway to create an efficient, timely, and client-responsive workstream following regional production deployment. We will stand up Arlo in the UK by the end of this financial year. In summary, much progress has been made on our EML 2.0 plan. I'll look forward to sharing a further update at the full year, which will feature a further shift from internal programs to commercial activity. Moving to slide seven, please. I want to go a layer deeper on our business development momentum, as I said I would during our investor discussions over the last six months. It's worth remembering that our commercial function was virtually nonexistent at the start of last calendar year. Given we operate a B2B2C business, forming a view on things like normalized conversion rates and time to revenue, et cetera, will take some time.
I do think it's useful to note our progress, so let me share a snapshot of how we're traveling today. Please note that all the numbers discussed are our forecast annualized revenue. Depending on our client start date, we'll see a portion of that flow through to the relevant financial year. Our overall pipeline continues to grow and now sits at AUD 102 million. We've secured close to AUD 24 million of new program revenue. Our conversion rate is tracking at 51%, which is terrific. As previously mentioned, the sample size is still relatively small, so I think this may moderate somewhat as our activity increases. Let's see. Of these secure programs, AUD 10.3 million has launched and is active on system, with a further AUD 13.5 million to launch over the remainder of the financial year.
Hopefully, most in the next 60 days. We have welcomed some exciting partners with strong growth prospects. Thanks to an energized team in North America, we're seeing a reemergence of the digital payments vertical, which is high volume, low take rate, but high margin business, and importantly, relatively quick to implement. We're somewhat frustrated by lags between signing and activation. Sometimes this is internal process or a partner's process, or it's client-side. We're super focused on optimizing our critical onboarding programs and expect better results in the period ahead. Proportionally, Europe has underperformed, we'll shortly welcome new commercial leadership to this key market, which represents 60, circa 50% of our global footprint. Overall, our activity and approach are light years better than they were 12 months ago. The winds are flowing, our order book is strong for the forward period.
We can, and we will continue to improve both metrics and work quickly to compress the time to revenue. We see the fruits of our labor in the shortest time possible, recognizing that not all of the processes are within our control. Moving to slide eight, please. Alongside business development, our growth will be underpinned by getting more from the core through better relationship management and a commercial mindset. Our EML 2.0 plan forecasts growth in existing clients of 4%-5%, which is being realized, excluding those clients in run-off from 2024. The business also enjoys a good spread of key clients. In other words, we don't suffer a pronounced client concentration risk. Our top five clients represent just over a quarter of our revenue.
Our renewal profile is also well spread. Pleasingly, we continue to see early renewal activity. We have a great asset base across our existing clients. As we improve our performance and behaviors, our clients are welcoming us into their strategic and innovation planning. Naturally, this provides a ready-made market for product expansion. Moving to slide nine, please. As I've noted, product development is firmly back in the day-to-day lives at EML. The first cab off the rank is mobility. When you think of mobility today, think about those magnetic stripe fuel cards, probably multiple of them if you have a fleet car on a rented lease. This is the product we're intent on making obsolete. It's an enormous global market that suffers from several structural challenges. It's expensive relative to other payment networks. The technology is mostly old, complex, and inflexible.
Clients and cardholders want a better experience, whether that's wider acceptance or digitization or both. EVs are a growing factor in fleet and related expense management. We are convinced that the market is hungry for new ways to manage motor vehicle expenses in the digital age. Slide 10, which we'll go to next, evaluates the size of this prize. What you can see from the market data here is both the size of the market today and the forecast growth rate over the medium term. Be clear, that is double-digit CAGR. For EML, we see great overlap in attractive markets with our existing footprint, and we have the capacity to geographically expand as we prove the product in our home markets. Turning to our solution on slide 11. EML is exceptionally well-placed to play a key role in the digitization of vehicle and other corporate expense management.
We bring a pedigree in industry-specific product design, utilizing open and private loop payment rails and the underlying regulatory framework to support large-scale programs of this nature. We also have the operational presence in several of the most attractive markets. We are finalizing key partnerships, including with an emerging global leader in fuel retailing technology integrations. These guys have deep expertise in the browser and fuel retailer side of the transaction flow, with technologies that are deeply integrated into major forecourt controllers worldwide. Our product and technology teams are working through a proof of concept and technology integrations. Imagine having a digital wallet on your phone, being able to purchase fuel anywhere and from any brand, with all of the controls that vehicle owners, fleet managers, and corporates demand, enabling you to also activate the pump from your app without stepping inside the shop.
You can use this wallet for vehicle-related expenses beyond service stations, providing the first proper look into total cost of ownership of vehicles. This is the solution we're aiming for. It doesn't really do it justice, but there's more to come in future investor updates. As I said, the team is busy working on a technology platform, and we expect to launch our MVP by mid-year. Co-design discussions with key clients are underway. Turning to slide 12, please. Before handing over to Stuart, I'll share an update on Project Arlo, our new single global platform, replacing three disparate regional systems. I think it's worth reminding everyone that we're taking a modern, pragmatic, and flexible approach to systems architecture for Arlo.
What we are doing is we are building the core IP that goes to our business model, being the presentation layer and the business logic or interoperability layer. This is where great experiences are made and programs are configured and activated rapidly. The commoditized elements of the process, things like KYB, transaction monitoring, transaction processing, et cetera, are being procured on a SaaS basis and plugged into our stack, while we retain flexibility to add and swap capability and capacity without disturbing our clients. What we aren't doing is building a transaction process over the next four years at an exorbitant cost. Our core mission here is to turn today's circa AUD 30 million of IT, ICT spend into AUD 20 million and realize further operational savings through digitizing and automating process. The business case holds true today.
As you can see from the chart on slide 12, our core build is expected to be complete around the end of this calendar year. We will deploy firstly in the UK mid-year. Then in the other two regions at the end of the year. New clients can launch on platform from these points. Migration planning is underway and will be of progressive activity through the back half of calendar years, 2026 and 2027, and likely into the first half of 2028, subject to key client engagement. Rest assured, we'll go as fast as we can without causing unnecessary risk or disturbance to our runway. I'll now hand over to Stuart to dive into the financials.
Thank you, Anthony. I'm pleased to be here today, having stepped into the CFO role on the 1st of December, and look forward to meeting our shareholders over the coming days. I'll begin on slide 14, which shows the key operating metrics. As Anthony has said, the group experienced a challenging start to the year with a well-managed cost base, helping to offset revenue challenges. Revenue performance reflects previously communicated headwinds of lower interest rates across all regions and the impact of customer terminations from the prior financial year. Customer revenue declined 4%, primarily by Europe, partially offset by growth in Australia and North America. Interest revenue declined as expected, following central bank rate cuts, with higher bond yields in Europe, partially mitigating the impact.
Net overheads of AUD 53.1 million were consistent with the comparative period, following leadership-led simplification, allowing reinvestment into commercial and sales capability. As a result, underlying EBITDA is down 16% to AUD 28 million. Cash has decreased over the half by 11 and a half million, and I will expand on that later. Moving to slide 15, which shows the results of our European business. Europe remains our largest segment, with just under 500 customers across the UK and the broader European region, operating across government, financial services, and Human Capital Management. GDV, or Gross Debit Volume, has increased 5% to AUD 3.4 billion, driven by higher volumes with existing customers.
Total revenue declined 12% to AUD 60.1 million, primarily reflecting a 13% reduction in customer revenue due to terminated customers, and also a 10% decline in interest revenue at the lower yield environment. Excluding terminated customers, existing customer revenue grew by 5%, which is consistent with the growth in GDV. Net overheads increased 11% to AUD 31.6 million in the region, driven by higher irrecoverable VAT charges. As part of EML 2.0, the business transitioned from a regional to a global operating model, and this has resulted in an increase in some costs allocated from corporate. Gross profit margins were maintained despite the revenue pressure. I'll now move to slide 16, which shows the performance of the Asia-Pacific region.
This region comprises our Australian and New Zealand businesses, which are predominantly general purpose reloadable products with a strong human capital management presence and just under 200 active customers. Customer revenue increased 10%, largely driven by a 5% increase in active HCM benefit accounts, which helped offset an 18% decline in interest revenue. GDV has increased 13%, in line with the growth in retail and HCM sectors. Net overheads increased 5% to support the investment of EML 2.0, with the underlying gross profit and EBITDA margins broadly in line with the comparative period. If we now turn to slide 17, we'll focus on our North American segment. North America operates predominantly in retail gifts and incentive products, with participation in financial services via the VAN product and some exposure to gaming. The segment is just under 500 customers.
GDV declined 6%, primarily due to lower VAN volumes, a high volume, low yield product with high margins. Pleasingly, customer revenue was up 1%, resulting in improved revenue yield and stable gross profit dollars and margins. Consistent with other regions, we saw lower interest income. Net overheads increased 13%, driven by higher irrecoverable GST in Canada and targeted spend on professional fees. Slide 18 shows us our overhead cost base. Group overheads remained stable in the first half of 2026 compared to the same period last year, and fell 2% on the previous six-month period, being the second half of 2025, reflecting the ongoing refinement of the EML 2.0 operating model.
The savings were driven by AUD 1.4 million in employee entitlements, AUD 1.6 million from reduced reliance on professional fees, partially offset by higher irrecoverable VAT and GST in Europe and Canada. Arlo product costs expensed in the period of AUD 4.5 million relating to the build are excluded from net overheads and underlying EBITDA as previously guided. Moving to slide 19, we provide an overview of our interest income and stored float balances. Interest income is a conscious and key source of revenue for EML. Interest revenue decreased 11% to AUD 29 million due to lower cash rates, partially offset by higher bond reinvestment returns. Float balances increased 5% to AUD 2.6 billion, with an annualized yield of 3.1% compared to 3.7% in the prior period, excluding non-interest-bearing float.
The exit rate 31 December 2025 is 2.8%. We expect less volatility over the forward period compared with our experience of the last 12 months. The bond portfolio contributed 51% of the group's total interest income in the period. The current portfolio has a yield of 3.9%, with an average duration of 2.5 years, helping moderate interest rate headwinds. Slide 20 shows a cash bridge for the period. As I've mentioned earlier, cash has decreased over the half by AUD 11.5 million, reflecting cash outflows to provisionally settle the class action of AUD 40.9 million, repayments to the PFS liquidator, AUD 13.3 million, and CapEx of AUD 4.4 million, principally on Arlo. That has been funded by a debt drawdown of AUD 44 billion.
Excluding one-off items, the underlying operating cash flow was AUD 22.2 million, representing a 79% EBITDA to cash conversion ratio. This is an area of continued focus of mine. With the majority of historic one-off outflows behind us and strategic actions we've taken over the last few periods, we remain focused on improving our cash conversion rate and optimizing our cash flow management to drive greater financial stability and shareholder value. Next half, we see continued investment in the Arlo CapEx, and we expect to make the final loan repayment to the PFS liquidator, approximately AUD 6.6 million. In concluding, FY 2026 remains a transition year as EML moves to a globalized operating model, closes out a range of historical matters, positions the group for growth in FY 2027 and beyond.
I'll now pass back to Anthony, who will cover our priorities for the second half and an outlook for the business.
Thanks, Stuart. Slide 22, please, moderator. As we look into the second half of the financial year, we have several key priorities, as outlined here. On the commercial front, we want to build our sales pipeline to circa AUD 125 million by the end of the financial year. We have a good group of prospects at final decision stage and hope to build our order book, further strengthening the run into FY27. We will also optimize the onboarding process as much as humanly possible before year's end. Our exciting mobility project is expected to be in MVP test mode come June, with this project moving to a production build phase within our product and tech group. Bandwidth at the exec level will be free to advance the next strategic product development effort.
This is the typical cycle we'll get into as the business matures over the coming six months. On the efficiency front, our Global Operations Center in Sofia will continue to expand. We're actively working on a unified service management platform to make our frontline service and admin teams more efficient and effective. Agentic AI is being explored across operations and other parts of the business. Our product and technology group have a big program ahead. Arlo will be production launched mid-year in the U.K., and migration planning, together with regional readiness activities, are ramping up. Our engineering group is seeing positive early signs from AO tooling, and further proofs of concept will be undertaken in the quarter ahead to land on a strategy into FY 2027. On our people, the most important foundational element of all.
As you've heard, we're very focused on getting our commercial team right in both capability and numbers. Price is a key growth enabler. This team will expand further over the next quarter. As part of this, we'll get sharper as innovation and strategic product development become BAU. Our HR group is busy embedding our new performance management system and various other cultural initiatives, which are contributing to a renewed sense of energy and teamwork across the business. As you can see, work continues at a furious pace. I have every confidence in our team to execute. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank our hardworking team, our customers, our partners, and of course, our shareholders, for their continued support of EML.... listening to Stuart and I this morning. We're happy now to take any questions. Thank you, moderator.
Thank you, Anthony. As mentioned, we will now begin the Q&A session. A reminder, if you are listening by phone and would like to ask a question, please press Star followed by one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. To withdraw your question, press the Star one again. When called upon to ask your questions, please use your device handset and ensure you are not on mute. Again, that is Star one to raise your hand. Your first question comes from the line of Elise Kennedy of Petra Capital. Please go ahead.
Oh, hi, Anthony. Hi, Stuart. Well done on the result. Quick question from me, just trying to understand. It was a very strong second quarter, from what was in the first quarter AGM update. Just looking forward in the next quarters, as you're starting to see some of those efficiency gains come through and perhaps some of those, contract wins, how do we think about the rest of the year, just given you've tightened the guidance to, for the full year, slightly lower?
Okay. Look, I think, on a couple of different fronts, if you think revenue-wise, we've got a, you know, a really strong pipeline. We have a whole bunch of people, particularly in the U.S., that we're looking to onboard and trying to solve for those issues that have provided a lag for us in the last quarter. We hope that a lot of that gets addressed, and we can bring these people on to revenue, as I said, in the next 60 days. On the cost side, yeah, we're managing things really well. I don't think you'll see every quarter deliver the same quarter on quarter improvements, and we've always talked about reinvesting our savings into our commercial ambitions, which we're doing. Look, we've tightened the range, and we did that deliberately.
I think, getting to the top of what was there before is just too difficult for us at this point, but, you know, we've got a heap of work going on trying to build the book for, you know, into 2027 and beyond, and right now we're feeling pretty good about 2027.
That's very useful. Just one more quick one from me, just around FY28, are those still some of those aspirational targets? Are they still, do they still stand?
100%.
Great. Thanks for your time.
This is a final call out for any questions or any follow-up questions. Please press Star one on your telephone keypad now to raise your hand and join the queue. Again, that is Star one. Your next question comes from the line of Richard Davis of Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Morning to you. Well done on the results. Numbers look good. There's a lot to dive into here. I guess my question is mostly just around the pipeline. I know we've discussed before, it's been very early talking about conversion rates, et cetera, and obviously, it's a forward-looking metric, but is there any color on, you know, you kind of mentioned you're looking at converting that was sort of ahead of your expectations. Maybe you could give a color throughout the rest of the year with, on this AUD 100 million pipeline, what that might sort of look like?
Mate, in November, I think I said that, you know, as we got more data, we get better at being able to give you something to model. If you look at the last quarter, we're coming in a just a touch over 50% conversion. I think as the pipeline expands and as we deploy Arlo and have a much more efficient offering, then we would expect to see and we build out the commercial team and the product team, then we'd expect the pipeline to continue to grow. I'd love to tell you that we'll maintain 50%, but history tells me that'll probably taper. As I said in my address, let's just wait and see. It's converting well better than we thought it might.
I think that's a positive start, but will it continue at that rate? I don't know. I don't think it's going to plummet. Theoretically, we should get a whole lot better at it because we will have taken out the roadblocks that our platforms or processes have imposed. It's still, you know, we're subject to sometimes our partners' processes or sometimes our customer and their timings. That certainly had an impact on the last quarter. Those things are obviously outside of our control. Partners, for example, you know, we continue to, you know, work with them and look at their systems and processes and continue to look for new partners as well.
You know, there's a bunch of inputs into that, but for now, it's converting really well, it's growing, and as I said in my address, like, almost all of it is existing products on existing platforms. Let us get to, you know, a new platform with better processes and systems, I think away we go. I think the other thing, just to keep in mind for the next couple of months, more than a quarter of the pipeline is either in vendor or selection or negotiation right now.
I really appreciate that, Tyler. Thanks very much. Yeah, I guess just to touch on the new wins as well, you know, just from a regional perspective, obviously, a lot of it's coming through in North America. It's also where you're seeing, you know, some growth as well. I just was wondering if that's sort of a targeted push into that specific region, or if you're looking, you know, across the board as well, and the breakup of the pipeline, along those lines?
Honestly, I think it's more a reflection of, you know, what I'd refer to as a superstar in that, in the North American region. The team has come together really well, and they're making great inroads. We haven't been as strong in Europe, and we're addressing that. I think you'll see that pick up. Really, the North American thing isn't so much about a distinct push into that market. It's just that we've really nailed the commercial team construct there, and they're having a lot of fun.
That's helpful. Thanks. Maybe I'll just ask one last one, just on some of the one-off costs that you strip out of underlying EBITDA, obviously, Project Arlo is a portion of that. Outside of Project Arlo, do you sort of expect towards the end of the year and especially going into next year, that that statutory EBITDA number, competitive underlying will start to look a lot closer?
Yeah, mate, that's 100%. I mean, I still can go in more detail, but you'll, you might recall, you know, November, August last year, I said, this financial year, I've told everybody that fix whatever needs to be fixed because from here on in, it's on us. There's, you know, there's a flurry of things going on to try and address some of the processes and nonsense that has gone on here historically. The intent is that when we go into next year, because I want it, and I know all of you do, too, we're going to have a cleaner set of numbers.
Yeah, I think that, I mean, the team have heard it internally, from me a lot, you know, we just need to work to one set of numbers here.
Going forward, yeah, I mean, we're probably gonna capitalize in the order of 50% of the Arlo build cost, sort of under the accounting standards. There will be ongoing OpEx that goes through the P&L, which will continue to report this way. Certainly, probably for FY 2027, I would think not beyond that, though. Next year would be probably one or one line here, subject to nothing else arriving that we don't know about. Yeah, that will be a focus.
That makes sense. Just to clarify, end of FY 2027 is kind of when we're expecting the last, you know, payments towards Arlo to wrap up. Is that correct?
Well, I think the majority of the build cost will be done by the end of calendar 2026. There'll be ongoing development work beyond that, but, yeah, I think FY 2027 will be largely focused on migration, hopefully. Well, certainly the second half of it. Yeah. Simple terms, the core build's done by end of first half 2027. The second half of 2027 will be about migration. As Stuart Will said, like, whilst the, you know, the business case build of Arlo was spend AUD 15, and save AUD 10 a year, and as I've said many times, as an investor, who wouldn't do that? The reality is that's, that might be the business case and not the reason we're here, right? Arlo enables a whole bunch of things that we don't have today.
I've said this before, you know, today we have debit card that you can reload once or reload multiple times, then full stop. Arlo gives us prepaid, debit, credit, digital, physical, virtual, single currency, multicurrency, configurable reporting, customizable offers to cardholders. A whole bunch of stuff that we don't have today. I would expect that we'll continue to evolve and enhance that offering. You'll see spend beyond this calendar year on developing and enhancing Arlo, but the core build will be done this calendar year.
That sounds very exciting. I might be cheeky and just ask one more as well. Obviously, you know, just on, you know, business development, and you've been expanding the sales team and the opportunities that you're seeing there, maybe you could just touch on, you know, if you feel confident in that and how that's gone, progressed. Are you kind of at the sales capability that you'd like to be at now, or is that still, you're still pushing really hard on that front?
Oh, I don't think you'll ever see us stop pushing really hard. I hope not. Not on my watch, anyway. I mean, look, so far, it's going really well. I think we're, you know, we're not quite where we want to be in Europe. North America's, you know, having a great time. Australia is doing really well, and as we think about new products, and new segments, I mean, the response from, you know, the existing customer base around some of this stuff is phenomenal. I would hope that you see us push even harder, particularly once we get clear of developing or building Arlo so that we can actually turn customers on. That's when you really should see us put pedal to the metal, or metal to the pedal. I think I'd rather first.
That's really great. Thanks so much for taking the questions, and well done again on the exciting outlook, guys. Appreciate it.
This does conclude today's Q&A session. I'll turn the call back over to Anthony for closing remarks.
Well, thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. Thank you, moderator, for your role here. I look forward to seeing many of you on the road over the coming.