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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

May 31, 2024

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. I am Vasilios, your chorus call operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining the Intralot conference call and live webcast to present and discuss the first quarter 2024 financial results. All participants will be in a listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a question and answer session. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on your telephone. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Chrysostomos Sfatos, Deputy Group CEO of Intralot. Mr. Sfatos, you may now proceed.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

Good afternoon, and welcome to the conference call of the first quarter results for 2024. I will run the meeting as always, but I would like also to mention that today the company announced Nikos Nikolakopoulos as the new Group CEO, who is joining this meeting. And, of course, during the course of the call, he will refer to the commercial issues, but he will also make a closing statement. At this point, I would like to pass the microphone to Group CFO, Andreas Chrysos, for his remarks.

Andreas Chrysos
CFO, Intralot

Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. We'll start with our presentation. Before that, we'll have a short introduction. So 2024 started with the finalization of all financing activities that have commenced in late 2023. The last one was completed on the 9th of April, with a full redemption of the last portion of the 2024 senior notes, amounting to EUR 99.6 million in principal amount, ending a journey that started in the last quarter of 2023, targeting to the early repayment of the outstanding 2024 notes. During the same period, the first quarter of 2024 could be characterized as a stabilization quarter on the operational front. Our most important subsidiaries and projects continued their operation on a pretty stable performance, earmarked mainly in our company in the U.S.

In the case of Bilyoner in Turkey, our subsidiary invested heavier to increase its market share, that reached 19.4% in April 2024, from 17.9% in the end of 2023, strengthening its position in the market and building the firepower to exploit financially the opportunities that this booming market offers. Headwinds in the FX front in Argentina that hit our numbers in the last month of 2023 and were discussed in the previous call, continues to impact our numbers if compared against the same period of last year. The stable performance was also depicted on the net debt and leverage ratio. Adjusted these two metrics for the guaranteed deposit of EUR 24 million relating to the servicing and repayment of the new debt products, meaning the retail bond and the syndicated loan, that were issued early in 2024.

Net debt stands in the order of EUR 329 million, from EUR 333 million at the end of 2023, and the leverage ratio was stable at 2.6 times. It is important to note that gross debt on March 31 includes the EUR 100 million of the syndicated loan, which was drawn on the 28th of this month, and was used to fully repay the outstanding amount of the 2024 notes on April 9. Therefore, gross debt was increased by this amount at the end of March and subsequently was decreased in April after the final repayment of the 2024 notes.

We believe that the current state of the financing and also the, on the business front, in accordance with our technological capabilities, provides our group with a very solid ground to pursue future growth that, through new opportunities we see ahead in the mid-term horizon. And with this small introduction, we are now moving to the first quarter of 2024 financials presentation. Going directly to page number 5, we see the revenue analysis.

The business activity, our management contract activity line, including our projects in Turkey and Morocco, performed better by EUR 1.5 million year-over-year, with a very good performance from Bilyoner in Turkey, boosted by the increased market share in the growing Turkish online sports betting market, managing to fully counterbalance the negative effect of the FX headwinds of the Turkish lira. This positive effect was partly counterbalanced by the lower revenue in Morocco, attributed to the lower scale contract that we have now in the country, compared to the old contract that was in effect last year. Licensed operations were lower by EUR 4.8 million compared to the respective period of last year, affected by the steep devaluation of peso in December 2023, which also affected the technology line of business.

Performance in major markets, such as the U.S. and Australia, included also in the technology activity line, was stable. Turning to page 6. We have the overall PNL performance for the first quarter of 2024 compared against 2023's respective period. On the revenue line, there was a deficit of EUR 4.3 million, including the negative impact from the currency devaluation in Argentina, which was EUR 6.7 million in total. Although in local currency in Argentina, this year's revenue presented at 132.8% growth. Same reasons for the GGR line variance. And then moving down to the OpEx line, the year-over-year increase is entirely related to Bilyoner, which invested significant amounts to increase its market share and strengthen its presence in the local market.

As a result, EBITDA for the period was lower by EUR 3.6 million. Analyzing the variance further, it all comes from Argentina and Turkey, with Argentina being down by EUR 1.3 million and Turkey by EUR 2.2 million. All other projects performance net off each other. EBITDA margin in the region of 35%-36% at the same level as at the end of 2023. Higher depreciation and amortization in Q1 2024 versus Q1 2023 because of a hyperinflation impact year- over- year related to the Bilyoner license, and the EBT line lowered by EUR 0.55 million due to EBITDA and the depreciation and amortization lines variance.

Net income after tax and minority interests was positively affected by a reversal of a deferred tax liability current coming from Bilyoner, following the harmonization of inflation accounting treatment under IFRS with the local accounting tax, tax principles. Turning to page number seven, the upper two graphs have been analyzed already in the previous slides. On the bottom left graph, the operating cash flow was lower by EUR 10 million, attributed mainly to the negative swing of working capital of EUR 7.4 million year-over-year, consisting primarily of impact on inventories, the majority of which coming from the US, referring to equipment building that will be installed to clients in the next period. Overall, the movement in the working capital is seasonal, and we expect that it will be smoothed out throughout the year.

CapEx for the period, same as in previous year. On the bottom, right of the slide, we see that the net debt and leverage ratio adjusted for the restricted cash, to which we referred, already before for the debt servicing and repayments, remained at the same levels as at the end of 2023, in the order of EUR 330 million and 2.6x respectively. And then moving on to page 8, we see the movement of the net debt. We'll have a bridge there. For December, from December 2023 through March 2024, the free cash flow generation at EUR 11.2 million and the net interest payments at EUR 9.8 million.

Here, it should be highlighted that the first quarter cash flow movements include items that will not be repeated in the rest of the year, and therefore, we expect that the remaining two of 2024, the free cash flow generation will be strengthened. These items indicatively refer to positive working capital movements, dividends to minorities that will not be repeated, and interest amounts that burdened the first quarter payments from the notes of 2024 that were fully repaid in April this year. Loan receipts include the EUR 100 million syndicated loan that fully repaid the outstanding 2024 notes in April, which is also the reason why we see the gross debt increase at the end of March.

The 2024 restricted cash, again, we referred to it already, so adjusting the net debt, we see also here for this amount, it is marginally lower by 3.7 million euros, at 329.5 million euros, mainly due to the capital repayments in the U.S. loan. Lastly, on page 9, we see the contributions per region in our revenues and EBITDA. In terms of EBITDA, North America had a stable performance, while Europe partly counterbalanced the lower performance in South America, due to Argentina primarily, and the rest of the world attributed to Bilyoner and Morocco.

At this stage, the presentation of the results of the first quarter of 2024 is finished, and the INTRALOT executive team is at your disposal for any comments that you may have. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star, followed by one on their telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, then you may press star and two. Please use your handset when asking your question for better quality. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. One moment for the first question, please…. The first question comes from the line of Russell Pointon with Edison Group. Please go ahead.

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Good afternoon, gentlemen, thank you for the presentation. A couple of questions from me. First of all, could you just talk about the US in a bit more detail? You talk about divergent trends, and on the last call, you know, we spoke about poor weather at the start of the year, could you talk about, and, you know, what's happened with the jackpots. So talk about how those things progressed, and you talked about the strong growth in iLottery. Second question is on Turkey. There's obviously quite a good dip in the profitability of Turkey as you stepped up that marketing. Do you think the profitability in Turkey has reached a trough now, or do you think you will continue to invest in marketing in the near term to continue gaining market share?

My third question, I guess it's probably quite a big question, just, you talked quite a bit of detail on the last call about where you are with respect to the major contracts that are coming up this year. I appreciate it's always difficult to talk about these things ahead of any resolution, but just give us some idea of what progress has been made. Thank you very much.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

Good evening, good morning from my side also, Nikos Nikolakopoulos. I will start with the first question about the US. The first quarter, give or take, was the expected growth in terms of sales. There was just one big jackpot, both are running parallel, both in Mega Millions and in Powerball. So even though we had a very slow start in January and February in sales, March compensated, that's why the, give or take, we were in the same size and level of sales on the first quarter of 2023. And I believe that, you know, the trend, a good trend is, you know, continuing on the last two months.

So all in all, in terms of jackpots, there was just one which is, you know, something normal in both, in those five months, and the performance of the instance, which is the majority of the sales in the lottery business in the U.S., is following a normal growth trend. In terms of Turkey, we do not believe that we have reached the profitability. What practically we are doing is that we are investing in marketing in order to grow our market share, because we do believe that there is an opportunity to consolidate position and start growing also there. In the last, I think, five or six months, we are having a very steady month-on-month growth of the market share.

Now, we are close to 19.5%. So we will continue this aggressive strategy and because the benefits that we are reaping have you know make sense regarding the investment especially for the long run. And the third question was about, if I'm not mistaken, the RFPs, the upcoming bids and stuff like that, correct?

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Yes.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

Okay. In general, there are some RFPs that we are, they are already been issued, like the North Dakota, the two Ohio, the monitoring and the central system. Missouri has been issued. TLC is in Australia, it has been issued. So we are participating. We are expecting another 10-12 RFPs, including also some in, you know, Latin America, like Brazil, that are going to be issued throughout the year. So for the time being, you know, it is very difficult to have some specific news. What I can tell you is that there is an opportunity, and we are following almost every one of them.

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Thank you. Can I just have a follow-up on the Turkey question, please?

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

Hello? Sure, yeah.

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Sorry. So, the gaining market share in Turkey, are you gaining new players or spend per player or a combination of both?

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

It is a combination of both, but mainly we are gaining market share in a growing market. So practically, the average spending per player is growing, but the main thing is that we are gaining also more players.

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Thank you very much, Nikos.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Osman Memisoglu with Ambrosia Capital. Please go ahead.

Osman Memisoglu
Head of Research, Ambrosia Capital

Hi, many thanks for your time. Just on the trends, the evolution of EBIT looks like it's mainly FX headwinds and Turkey marketing spend. With the addition of Malaysia, for example, should we see an improvement in year-over-year EBIT performance in Q2? And also related to that, Argentina EBIT performance, should that normalize going forward throughout the quarter this year? Thank you.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

... Thank you, Osman. As we've mentioned before, we expect the most of the growth to come from the US, but the big chunks of growth will come eventually from the new contracts we are aiming for. Of course, Malaysia, we're happy to continue the cooperation there. This contract will come - not come online this year, but all the other areas we've mentioned, including good performance in Croatia, in the Netherlands, and particularly in the United States, but also in Turkey, of course. We're expecting growth in Turkey. The plan is to ramp up in the second half of the year. So the numbers will ramp up, and that's precisely what's happening now with the gain of the market share. So this is going according to plan.

And now, in Argentina, of course, we see some signs of stabilization, but we have already absorbed the shock. We consider that given some time, the situation will stabilize there.

Osman Memisoglu
Head of Research, Ambrosia Capital

Thank you for that. Any color on where you expect EBITDA to come in for the year? How it's looking so far?

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

Typically, we don't give such forecasts in these updates.

Osman Memisoglu
Head of Research, Ambrosia Capital

Okay.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

But, we expect to have to continue to have this good performance of the company. Take in mind that we have delivered very significant growth in recent years, like, this, this, we're already delivering a lot of growth and, and we believe that we don't see any negative events ahead of us.

Osman Memisoglu
Head of Research, Ambrosia Capital

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Fani Tzioukalia with Euroxx Securities. Please go ahead.

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Hi, hello from my side, and thank you for the presentation. Just a quick question and congratulations to the appointment of Mr. Nikolakopoulos as the new CEO of the group. I was wondering if Mr. Nikolakopoulos will also retain his responsibilities as the CEO of USA? That's all. And maybe if you could provide CapEx for the year, I mean, for the remaining three quarters. Thank you.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

For the time being, there's no announcement that I'm going to leave my post in the U.S. In fact, I'm flying after the call there. But, we are having some discussions both with the board and with the management to see what would be the best way forward. One thing I can tell you for sure is that I will remain chairman of the board, executive chairman there, whatever happens.

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Brilliant.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

I'm going to spend most of my time there, because the majority of the business on the opportunity that, you know, the market represents is there. So-

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

... Understand, yes.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

Of course, some things that they are going to change, but not that, you know, significant, at least, you know, for the focus of the company.

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Okay.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

The second question was about?

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

About CapEx.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

CapEx.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

Yeah. CapEx will remain at the same levels as last year, maybe a small increase, because we don't have any major new developments this year, so we are holding the maintenance CapEx under control.

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Okay, and just one follow-up question, please. You mentioned that working, we saw some one-offs on the cash flow basis, and I was wondering also on the working capital, can you please explain again the main reason of the working capital charge for the quarter? You said it was mostly one-off, so which among the three was, let's say, the biggest burden on working capital? Thank you.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

The biggest burden was in the inventories.

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Okay, yeah.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

Because we have some building infrastructure, especially in the U.S. It relates to terminals that we are currently manufacturing, building-

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Mm-hmm.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

in order to be installed in the clientele base, and of course, this will have a positive impact on the revenues as well in the near future.

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Brilliant. We expect, as you said, a working capital enhancement in the following quarters, right?

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

We expect that the working capital will be smoothed out. I mean, this negative impact will be smoothed out within this year.

Fani Tzioukalia
Equity Research Analyst, Euroxx Securities

Okay, brilliant. Thank you so much, all.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

Thank you.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from the line of Russell Pointon with Edison Group. Please go ahead.

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Hello again. A follow-up question on Argentina, if that's okay. Previously, I mean, I think your working assumption is that when there's a currency hit, ultimately inflation picks up and offsets that. It hasn't done so far, but so could you just talk about what's happening on the ground? Is it, are there fewer players, are there fewer customers, or are they spending less because of the macroeconomic issue there? Thank you.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

I do not believe that we can provide those level of detail, because keep in mind, in Argentina, we do have technology contracts. So practically, we do not have, you know, the data from the players in order to do all the analytics that we are having in other jurisdictions, like even in the U.S., that we are managing, you know, on behalf of the lotteries, in some cases, the data, or in Turkey. So I don't think it's going to be a little bit, you know, risky to have some, to put some color on this.

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Okay. So but the working assumption is that ultimately inflation picks up that slack?

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

Not fully, because there was a big change last year. But what we see now is in recent weeks, I'm sure you've noticed that the repo rates from the central bank have gone down dramatically, like one third of what they were earlier in the year. And that's a good sign of stabilization in the macro situation. Of course, in Argentina, it's too early to say, but this change in the monetary policy, we find it encouraging in terms of stabilization for the rest of the economy.

Russell Pointon
Director of Consumer and Media, Edison Group

Okay. Thank you for the answers.

Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone. As a final reminder, to register for a question, please press star and one on your telephone. Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference over to management for any closing comments. Thank you.

Chrysostomos Sfatos
Deputy Group CEO, Intralot

Thank you very much for your attendance. I will pass now the microphone to Nikos for his closing statement.

Nikolaos Nikolakopoulos
CEO, Intralot

Thank you for the attendance, for the participation. We do remain positive for the rest of the year, and we are really looking forward to have some, you know, good news in our next call in three months or so. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference is now concluded and you may disconnect your telephone. Thank you for calling and have a good evening.

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