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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Jul 23, 2020

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Welcome to Grupo Rotoplas second quarter 2020 results conference call. Please note that today's call is being recorded, and all participants are currently in listen-only mode to prevent background noise. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements. These statements are based on the environment as we currently see it, and as such, there may be certain risks and uncertainty associated with such statements. Please refer to our press release for more information on the specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, further events, or otherwise. Please allow me to remind you that the company issued its earnings press release yesterday after market close. It can be found in the investor section of its website.

Also, the presentation for the call and the webcast link are in the investor section. Today's call will be hosted by Mr. Carlos Rojas Aboumrad, Chief Executive Officer, and Mario Romero, Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Carlos Rojas.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Thank you. Good morning. Thank you for being with us today. I hope you and your loved ones are safe as we continue to chart our way out of the current crisis and into the future recovery. It is clear that COVID-19 pandemic has become a major catalyst for change in our societies. The pandemic has brought about profound health and economic challenges across the globe, and the response to them is still evolving. However, these challenges have reassured us of our purpose, and we're thankful for the opportunity to continue serving and helping others. Throughout this crisis, we have focused on the well-being our team members and our communities, as well as on providing support to our suppliers, distributors, and the technicians that sell and install our products.

Not only do we continue to provide much-needed water solutions to our clients, but we're doing so while protecting the health and safety of our people by strictly adhering to our local regulations and the World Health Organization guidelines. As we head into the new normal, we're working towards defining the protocols and workplace practices that will best enable us to ensure that our people stay healthy and safe in the later stages of the pandemic and into the future. We have also donated water purification solutions to hospitals that can purify over 3 million liters of water yearly, storage solutions that can store over 1 million liters in vulnerable communities, and we have installed over 1,000 handwashing stations in key locations across countries we operate in.

In fact, we have made available the prototypes and operating manuals of these handwashing stations so that any interested party anywhere in the world can replicate the effort and help fight the spread of the virus and overall public hygiene. In the same vein, we used our plumber loyalty program, which now has over 7,800 members, to reach out to them and learn how we could best support them to get through the effects of the lockdown. As a result, we have provided them with new training opportunities, new communication channels, and material and logistical support when needed. Our company's commitment to providing more and better water to our customers and our communities is now more relevant than ever, as is our responsibility to promote sustainable development and protect the environment, effectively increasing our stakeholders' resilience when facing a crisis such as the current one.

Our societies are learning, changing, and adapting, and Rotoplas is embracing this transformation as it is perfectly aligned with our company's mission. It is important to remember that, as I mentioned in our last call, Rotoplas is not the same company as it used to be. Through our efforts and streamlining key aspects of our business, we continue on the path of creating value for our shareholders, and we remain on the track even through these uncertain times. We have a resilient and diversified portfolio of goods and services, as well as effective strategies across our markets. We are constantly vigilant of our operation and always exploring new opportunities. As our quarterly results show, our efforts are paying off. I would like to highlight, for example, that our e-commerce platform in the United States reached successive record sales in April, May, and June.

As we managed to address the changes in habits of our customers, as well as the growing demand for agro-industrial water solutions in the market, we are also transforming our business in Brazil, where we divested our underperforming assets and are now focused on developing the service platform through water treatment plants, which represent an extraordinary opportunity which will allow us to take full advantage of our presence in one of Latin America's largest economies.

At the same time, we have managed to weather the effects of lockdowns and operating disruptions in some of our Central and South American markets. Furthermore, considering our performance as lockdown restrictions were eased in some of those markets in June, we now see a very encouraging run rate in countries such as Peru and Argentina, Honduras, and Nicaragua as well, evidencing that the strength of our brand and the quality of our solutions are at the top of our customer minds in the new customer landscape. Even as growth in sales in Mexico remains strong and sales of our storage solutions prove their resilience, we are seeing a rising demand for our Bebbia platform that underscores its potential to become a leading purified water solution for the country.

In fact, the success of both Bebbia and our e-commerce platforms highlight the need to constantly innovate and address new customer needs and habits. We believe that loyalty with our team members, distributors, and the people who recommend and install our products is a two-way street. We look after them and they look after us. We extend that vision to our customers and communities as we believe that solidarity is and will be in the times ahead. We're grateful for the opportunity to leverage our innovation and client-driven ethos, and to help address what has proven to be one of our most urgent challenges of our time. As our societies chart the new way forward, we're confident we will continue to play a key role, both in containing and mitigating the effects of the pandemic and building the road to recovery. Thank you for your time and attention.

I will now turn over the call to Mario so that he can go over the quarterly results in more detail. I look forward to your questions.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Thank you, Carlos. Good morning, everybody. Thank you again for joining us. I hope you have been safe and healthy this past few months. As Carlos pointed out, and as we mentioned in our last call, Rotoplas entered this phase of the pandemic strengthened and with a clear purpose and objectives. Even as there is still a certain level of uncertainty about the future evolution of the crisis and its full impact, we are confident that our quarterly results evidence our resilience in the face of systemic shocks, and more importantly, our ability to continue to serve our customers at a time when the availability and quality of water is crucial. In fact, as mentioned, even in those markets where we experience disruptions due to local pandemic restrictions, we are already seeing very positive signs as those restrictions are lifted.

Whereas in other markets such as the U.S., Central America, and Mexico, we experienced significant growth throughout the period as consumer habits are changing. Also industries and business are preparing for the new normal, in which it is estimated that more water is going to be needed to fulfill health protocols. Providing more and better water is therefore not only our reason for being, but it is also a sound business vision. In fact, in spite of the widespread economic shock associated with the pandemic, net sales grew 1% year-over-year during the quarter, and 2% during the first semester. Likewise, sales of our water as a service platform grew 22% during the last quarter, driven by double-digit growth in treatment plants, Bebbia, and drinking water fountains.

Moreover, we remain focused on our employees' and clients' health, safety, and well-being while creating value for our shareholders. To that end, we have maintained a watchful eye on our cash through our cash flow control tower and have continued to strengthen our balance sheet, which closed the quarter with a 0.6x leverage. Most importantly, we have reached a return on invested capital of 8.8%, an increase of 90 basis points year-over-year. As we make progress in our transformation process Flow, implementing new initiatives and streamlining our operations, we continue to advance towards our goal of having a weighted average cost of capital below our ROIC by year-end.

The ROIC shows a decrease compared to the immediate previous quarters due to the impact on the generation of operating income from the closure of operations because of the pandemic, the recognition of expenses for the implementation of Flow, and the readjustment of workspaces to comply with health guidelines. Without the impact of the disruption or closing of operations in Peru, Argentina, El Salvador, and Honduras, the ROIC would stand up at 9.6%. Now, please me allow to discuss some of our quarterly results in further detail. As for Mexico, our sales grew 3% during the second quarter, and 7% during the first semester, due to a solid and resilient demand for our storage solutions and to the prioritization of access to water for hygiene and workplace safety.

In fact, as Carlos already highlighted, Bebbia, our drinking water service, experienced record sales throughout the quarter, proving its value and potential in a changed landscape. As of June, we doubled Bebbia's installed units, reaching more than 31,000 purifiers and more than doubling the 14,000 installed units as of June of last year. We also continue to innovate within Flow's framework, introducing new storage products and strengthening our marketing efforts, including, of course, our plumber loyalty program, but also our sales team's productivity. It is worth noting that while we registered significant growth in the sales of water fountains, government sales as a percentage of total revenue remain well under our 10% target, amounting to 2.8% during the second quarter. We are also seeing very little correlation between our sales and the construction industry trends, which are both signs of the success of the diversification that anchors our resilience.

Furthermore, as we have already mentioned, our e-commerce platform in the United States has had three consecutive record-breaking months, evidencing that it is the perfect channel to reach and serve our customers in the new normal in that country. Sales in Central America also increased by double digits in spite of the lockdown measures and the disruptions to our operations, thanks to the optimization of our sales force productivity and the incorporation of new products to our portfolio in the region. This growth compensated the losses sustained in Peru and Argentina, El Salvador, and Honduras, which amounted to MXN 275 million as we face restrictions that severely impacted our operations in those countries, as I will explain next.

Net sales in Argentina totaled MXN 322 million for the quarter, but we estimate that the disruptions to our operations, which were limited or stopped for 33 days in the semester, reduced our sales by MXN 125 million. As Carlos pointed out, we are seeing a really positive run rate in June as restrictions have been eased, with sales growing double digits in local currency and exports increasing 81%. Sales in Peru decreased significantly due to the lockdown measures implemented in the country, which closed down our operations for 81 days, negatively affecting sales by an estimated MXN 139 million. Following the reopening in June, we are already seeing a solid recovery trend, increasing sales double digits across all business lines. The intermittent closures of our distribution centers in Honduras and El Salvador had an estimated negative impact on sales of MXN 11 million for the quarter.

Our operations in Guatemala, Costa Rica, and Nicaragua continued throughout the quarter without interruption. Finally, the divestment of our product unit in Brazil on May 1st netted us MXN 134 million and will significantly contribute to our ROIC, while enabling us to strengthen the presence of our water as a service platform in that key market through our treatment and recycling plants. In terms of our portfolio mix, sales of products during the quarter accounted for 92% of total sales, attesting to the growing strength of our water as a service platform, and we enter the new social and economic landscape brought about by the pandemic. Regarding our P&L results, it is worth pointing out that our quarterly operating profit totaled MXN 178 million and MXN 456 million in the first semester.

These results are 32% and 17% lower than those of 2019 due to the operating restrictions I discussed before, with reduced cost and expense absorption. We estimate that the impact of these restrictions in Argentina, Central America, and Peru amounted to MXN 67 million during the second quarter and MXN 79 million during the first semester. We also had to undertake additional expenses to recondition our plants and offices in order to fully implement the relevant workplace safety protocols, which amounted to MXN 7 million. Additionally, we made one-time expenses totaling MXN 21 million related to the implementation of Flow, and we invested heavily in advertising campaigns to promote Bebbia. Our quarterly adjusted EBITDA totaled MXN 294 million, 13% reduction year-over-year due to the operating restrictions that I have already discussed, which affected the result by an estimated MXN 83 million.

Finally, we reduced our quarterly net loss of MXN 59 million before accounting for discontinued operations. This is a result of the decrease in our operating profits due to the lockdown disruptions, as well as FX losses on our dollar-denominated positions and accounts receivable in local currency, totaling MXN 99 million for this effect. We also faced higher interest expenses and a negative effect of MXN 16 million for our monetary position in Argentina. Net income still increased 87% in the first semester. The gains in derivatives and FX positions in the first quarter compensated for the FX losses in the second quarter. In regard to the strength of our balance sheet, as I have already mentioned, our net debt to EBITDA ratio is 0.6x , well below our two times ratio policy.

During the quarter, we took a MXN 65 million or PEN 10 million soles loan from the government in Peru, which is meant to help alleviate the pressure caused by the total lockdown. The loan has a 12-month grace period. It yields 1.46% annual interest rate, and it is under a three-year tenure. Apart from that loan, our debt position also considers the sustainable bond, AGUA17-2X, which, as we discussed in our last call, net MXN 4 billion, has a maturity date of June 16, 2027, and was issued at an 8.67% fixed rate in Mexican pesos. It is important to note as well that we have decreased the cash conversion cycle by 16 days, driven by an improvement in accounts receivable and a decrease in inventories.

This is a direct result of the negotiation of better terms with clients, an initiative that originated within the Flow program and is closely monitored by the weekly cash flow control tower. CapEx remains at 7% of total sales, which we believe to be a very sustainable level. 33% of that CapEx is allocated to water treatment plants in Mexico and now in Brazil, as we refine our value proposition in that country. Carlos has already gone through the most important actions we have undertaken in the ESG space. I would only like to add that some of you may know, Rotoplas has been included in the S&P/BMV Total Mexico ESG Index, which substitute the S&P/BMV IPC Sustainable Index.

The index includes the 29 issuers and REITs with the best ESG performance and attest to our commitment to ensure that we are there to the highest standards in bringing more and better water to our customers and communities. We are also very proud to share with you the ESG KPI dashboard, which is available on our website and details our most relevant environmental, social, and government results since 2016. The dashboard and our new sustainability management system platform will strengthen our efforts to measure and improve our ESG performance, as well as our commitment to transparency and accountability in this matter. In conclusion, sharing this Economist cartoon by Kevin Kallaugher, as we discussed in our last call, we expect that the pandemic will have an impact across all of our major markets.

However, we also expected that our strong balance sheet and the flexibility that affords us will allow us to continue serving our clients and to strengthen our water-as-a-service platform, all the while ensuring the well-being of our people. As Carlos pointed before, we are now beginning to realize the scope of the social and economic changes brought about by the crisis. Even as we are still dealing with its dire effects, we are already thinking about the way forward as well. Our business model has proven resiliency, and we have managed to reach out and support our stakeholders during these challenging times while continuing to advance towards our value creation goals. We will continue ahead in this path, relying on our capacity for innovation and our adaptability, and we will continue to keep you informed of any relevant events as we have been doing to date.

We are confident that our societies adjust to the new realities in front of us. Our company will play a key and increased role in helping our customers address their water needs. Thank you for your time. Now we will move to any answer, followed with questions you may have.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

The chat is open for questions. Just press in the Q&A sign, please. We have the first question from David Seaman. Can you please share earnings per customer behavior in Bebbia, given your survey result of 40% of consumers being open to filters? Is that a worrying statistic?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

It's actually positive that people in Mexico, where we are currently offering Bebbia, are willing to move from bottled water to purified water. The reason we came up with Bebbia as water as a service or purified water as a service was that there were lots of pain points in the customer journey for purchasing, installing, and servicing a water filter at home. We decided to do that same model where we are responsible for an end-to-end service. We're actually seeing tremendous growth and interest for Bebbia. It is still very new. There's still a lot of work to do in terms of brand awareness and service awareness. What we're seeing, great opportunity to increase investment in marketing efforts, to continue to grow new subscribers per month.

Just to give you an idea, June growth of new subscribers per month grew around 200% as compared to June of last year. It's going very well. Thank you, David.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

We have another question from Regina Carrillo. Hi. Is there any guidance you can give us for the second half?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Hi, Regina. How are you? Good morning. Thanks for joining. At this point, we are not giving any guidance given such volatile environment that we are living. As explained during the call and the press release, the good news is that the company is having a strong demand for most of their products and services. The things that we cannot control are the lockdowns, like the ones we saw in Argentina and Peru and parts of Central America, which, as explained, it really affects our profitability levels. As a company, we have decided to keep the whole team, employees, and staff in place. Having said that, and as mentioned during the call, in June, we saw a very impressive month. Just to give you an idea of magnitude, sales were 50% higher than in April, when all the countries were open.

If the second half is to remain the same as June, where all the countries are open, then we'll have a better second half than the first half. Again, there are too many variables out there moving day- by- day. We are doing our best efforts to work them out. Our strong cash position, the good demand that our products and services is showing in such an environment proves that we have a very resilient portfolio. If things play well, you might see a better second half than the first half.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

The next question is from Rodrigo Salazar. Hey, thank you for the call. I have actually three questions. I'll start with the first one. Could you elaborate more on the MXN 20 million expense on Flow? What impact did you see in Mexico products due to the pandemic, and if that's why we saw a more pressured margin?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Did you want to finish with the questions, Mariana?

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Sure. Also, if you could explain a bit more on the U.S. dynamics, how are you seeing it behaving in the coming quarters? If you are planning on reporting separately on the future?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Hi, Rodrigo. I'll answer first part of your questions, and then Mario will complement. The MXN 20 million expense on Flow, I'll allow for Mario to explain in further detail on how we're registering this. In terms of Mexico, most of our solutions are much more related to water needs, and those performed very strongly. There's a few products, such as piping, which were affected in part by the construction industry in Mexico. The construction industry in Mexico had an important reduction during the first semester, and so that did pressure margins partially in Mexico. Also, part of our solutions service places of work, such as offices, where we did see also a reduction in demand as a consequence of people staying at home and not going to the office to work.

In terms of the U.S., we do see that there's great opportunity to continue to transform the traditional purchase habits from people going to a physical store to purchasing more online. We do see great possibilities to continue to transform the business model from purchases at physical stores to doing more remotely, where we are the leaders in terms of e-commerce for this line of products in the U.S. Today, it is not large enough for us to report separately, but we do hope that it will be the case in the future. Mario, would you like to answer the MXN 20 million allocation.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Sure, Carlos. Thanks, Rodrigo, for joining us in the call today. Just to complement on the U.S., a couple of things. U.S. was close to be the second-largest market of Rotoplas in the second quarter. Probably is going to be the next year's case that we will need to report to U.S. because of the magnitude and IFRS compliance. As for the FLOW expense, as you all know, or most of you know, the company's running a transformation program, named FLOW. We have studied 14 different companies that have run similar programs in the past, all of them public companies. 75% of those companies have presented these one-timers every quarter to give transparency and make it a comparable base to investors and analysts. We will be presenting in the coming quarters the same information of the FLOW program.

These one-timers are mostly one-offs that the company is deciding to do or consultancy fees which are paid because of the program. I will probably go with Alan James' question. Thanks for joining us. We actually paid a dividend on May of MXN 0.80 per share. For the reminder of the year, there's no plans for additional dividends. That answers to your question.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Mariana, would you like to read Liliana's question, please?

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Yes. Could you please give us more color behind EBITDA services? With that 20% growth in sales, it seems that it was not enough to improve profitability. Is there something particular this quarter or maybe the mix or Bebbia-related expenses that have affected EBITDA growth?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

I will allow for Mario to respond in a little bit more technical terms, but I would mention that Bebbia and Sytesa require quite a bit of investment to generate growth. Bebbia, the way it grew, since we take the entire customer acquisition cost and the cost of the product and installation as a cost in period zero when we install a new customer, and it takes a little bit of time to get a return on that investment. The quicker we grow, the higher the negative impact on the EBITDA. It's a little bit counterintuitive, but it's actually a reflection of this negative impact in EBITDA. It's a reflection of the positive trend on Bebbia's growth. In terms of unit economics, we're not disclosing the details, but I can tell you that it offers positive return, and way over our weighted average cost of capital.

We're very happy to be growing this business unit as aggressively as possible.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Santiago Leon is asking, could you give us more color on your service segment?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Just a second. I don't know whether Mario wanted to complement something.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

I was just complementing Carlos's answer. As Carlos mentioned, we believe it is the time to think and go big after Bebbia. We're making a lot of commercial and marketing efforts to push that business. Second, as we mentioned, we divested the products division in Brazil, but we kept a team in Brazil, which is building the Sytesa business. That business in Brazil is burning cash today because they are building the water treatment plants as we speak. Both of those are dragging on Sytesa's Mexico's EBITDA. That is why profitability in services is not there. As our CEO mentioned, we're very confident on the ROIC returns on a unit economic basis, and these are bold moves of the company's future, and its investment and expenses are being allocated to that.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Santiago Leon is asking, could you give us more color on your service segment? What do you expect going forward, and do you expect the EBITDA margin will be after the pandemic? Regarding development water treatment plans, could you give us an update on that? How many plans do you expect to have at the end of the year?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

I'll answer in general terms, and Mario will complement with the details. In terms of wastewater treatment plants for Mexico, we have seen a slowdown on investments in industrial projects or large construction projects, which impact on the demand for new plants. It's not that it has been reduced indefinitely, but some projects are taking longer to materialize. Our time from prospect to execution is taking a little bit longer. In terms of projected margins, where we can take into account the investments we do to grow these services in a longer period of time, they will continue to get stronger as we get higher levels of revenues. Mario, would you like to comment in more detail in terms of numbers?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Sure. Thanks, Santiago, for joining us and for your good questions. Before COVID, and with the transformation program we have spoke about in place, we were aiming to reach EBITDA margins in the neighborhood of 20% on the year. As you know, this pandemic changed everything, and our different business segments have been affected, and countries as well. The target is still there. Once we are over this health crisis, we believe that the normalcy of growth and margins should be there, as well as ROIC.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Just something additional to wastewater treatment plants. We are seeing a very strong demand in Brazil. There seems to be more interest in investment in Brazil today, which is very exciting for us to be participating in.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

If I may, to Rodrigo's question.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Just quick thing regarding that. It's related to the projection, to the guidelines for the second half of the year. There's tremendous uncertainty. If it's not for that uncertainty, we could say that we would be getting very close to that, ROIC being equal to WACC, which we mentioned at the beginning of the year as a target. There's lots of variables that are in play today. In normalized terms, we would be very confident that we will be getting there. The plan that we have today, it continues to be a relevant plan considering how the world is shifting, how the world is evolving with the pandemic. We're very happy to have a very strong, detailed plan with very detailed initiatives. Each initiative having owners, every initiative having milestones with milestone owners, all of these milestones and initiatives with very clear due dates.

We're making very good progress with this transformation of Flow, which is the main driver to get us to have a ROIC above WACC. It's just a matter of when it will be reflected, if it is the case that one of the unforeseen variables impacts this in a short term. Mario, anything that you'd like to complement?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Yes, to that, we have three scenarios going on inside the company. Good news is that independent of any of the three scenarios that we are running as of today, none of them take us out from our medium or long-term strategy. The company is very well-funded. Debt maturity, it's until 2027. The growth path is clear. Probably 2020 will be kind of a bridge year. Medium and long-term strategy is intact, and we feel confident on that.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

I don't know if there's any other questions. I'll give a few seconds. Thank you very much. Mariana, will you help us with the final comments?

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Thank you very much, everybody. We hope you will join us again next quarter. Until then, we'll be sure to keep you updated of any relevant news as they happen.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

There's one more question, Mariana, from David. If you want to read it just before.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Yes. Thank you, David. A few cash flow questions. Is there a mix effect that explains the source of working capital gains? What return prospects are there for gains in inventory? You made higher investments in Sytesa, yet CapEx is lower year-on-year. Are you deferring maintenance spend? Thank you.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Mario, would you like to comment?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Yes. Thanks, David. Well, I'll go from Sytesa. Part of the transformation, we are being more thoughtful on maintenance CapEx. We are managing that on a weekly basis. We are asking people to present business cases. This is part of the transformation that we are running. What has happened is that we're getting better at making maintenance CapEx decision. You can see the CapEx trend sequentially how that is moving. That is good. That is explained by Flow. On your working capital gains, is there a mix effect that explains that? Well, one is that we are working closely with our clients. Accounts receivables are getting lower. Inventory, it's a little bit tricky because of all this volatility that we are experiencing in 14 different countries. We do have a very interesting initiative going on as part of the transformation to do better inventory management.

Some gains will be obtained from this, but I think those will be really bankable once the situation gets more normal. As mentioned on one of the previous questions from Regina, just by looking April and June and a difference in sales of 50%, imagine the adaptability that the supply chain needs to handle with such swings. Once we get into a more normalized level, I think those gains in inventory will be reaped.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

There's another question from José Zepeda. "Hello, Carlos and Mario. Congrats in the results. I have one quick question. We have seen a fast reduction in the mobility restrictions across Latin. This makes you believe that the third quarter report could have a low recovery that we have seen during the end of the second quarter?

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Hi, Pepe. Thanks for your question. Not necessarily. The biggest restriction was when we couldn't operate at all. This was the case for a few countries in Central America, for Peru, for Argentina, for periods of time. It will benefit the business if construction picks up a little bit. Again, the products haven't shown to be as strongly correlated to construction, just a few of them. In terms of water solutions, people are actually finding that if they need a water solution, they won't wait, they want it now. Rotoplas has figured out ways, by being very agile, very flexible to service those needs. What we do see is that people will continue to be very conscious about their availability of water and the quality of that water, and they will continue to transform their habits and their demand for our products.

That'll continue to be a trend. Rotoplas has been very agile in adapting to whatever the new normal is, and we've already seen a very strong June. I think we can continue to see months similar to June with the increase or the development of the business as a consequence of the evolution that we're having through the transformation of Flow. Anything that you'd like to add additional to that, Mario?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

I think you got it right. If there are not massive lockdowns like the ones suffered in Q2, we might see a good Q3. Because demand there, water needs are there. Again, that, Carlos, we don't know.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Yeah. Mario, just there's one last one from Liliana regarding CapEx for Bebbia. Can you explain a little bit better the technicality on how we register for product installation?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

There's no CapEx in Bebbia. Well, there is, but it's only for the institutional products, the ones that go into.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

Offices.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Large places such as offices and hospitals and hotels. For the residential, everything flows into expense.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

In the moment that it's serviced.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Yeah.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO, Grupo Rotoplas

In terms of geographical expansion targets, I guess what we'd like to share is that there will be some resource allocation to service demand in wastewater treatment plants in Brazil, but won't be necessarily the most relevant moving forward as strategically we are focusing on capital allocation towards North America. That will be the main focus of capital allocation moving forward. Thank you, Mariana. Thanks everyone for connecting now on this occasion via Zoom. I think it went very well in terms of logistical terms. Mariana, please, I think we're ready to now move to the final statement.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Perfect. Well, thank you everybody for joining us, and see you next quarter.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Thank you very much for your time and interest. Have a very good day.

Mariana Fernández
Head of Investor Relation, Grupo Rotoplas

Danny, could you please end the meeting? Thank you.