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Earnings Call: Q2 2018

Jul 24, 2018

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Grupo Rotoplas second quarter 2018 results conference call. Please note that today's call is being recorded, and all participants are currently in listen-only mode to prevent background noise. The host will open the floor for questions later. I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Ofelia López Aranda, Grupo Rotoplas' Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Ms. López Aranda.

Ofelia López Aranda
Head of Investor Relations, Grupo Rotoplas

Thank you, Jamie. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. As you know, we issued our earnings press release yesterday after market close. It can be found in the investor section of our website. We have also provided slides to supplement our discussion, which can also be found in the investor section of our website. Please allow me to remind you that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements. These statements are based on the environment as we currently see it. As such, there might be certain risks and uncertainty associated with such statements. Please refer to our press release for more information on the specific risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, further events, or otherwise.

We are joined today by Mr. Carlos Rojas, Rotoplas Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Mario Romero, our Chief Financial Officer. We will begin our call with their remarks. I will then open the floor to your questions. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Carlos Rojas. Mr. Rojas, please go ahead.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO and Board Member, Grupo Rotoplas

Thank you, Ofelia. Thank you all for joining us today. As we reported yesterday, we faced a challenging environment this quarter but came out ahead. As a company with a large and growing presence in Latin America, buying a significant amount of raw materials in US dollars, we had to address several issues: significant political uncertainty, slowing economic growth, natural disasters, and weak currencies, including the sharp depreciation of the Argentine peso against both the US dollar and the Mexican peso. Despite these factors, however, we registered double-digit growth in EBITDA and record quarterly sales. We maintain a strong balance sheet. We continue to acquire new businesses in strategic markets while pushing for organic growth and operating efficiencies, as is laid out in our long-term growth strategy.

In this respect, I would like to highlight the acquisition of IPS, an Argentinian leading water flow solution provider, which ideally complements our product portfolio in the region. It was an assertive acquisition. We will be incorporating its results in the third quarter. It is also worth noting that the e-commerce platform we acquired in the U.S. last year made a significant contribution to our growth in this quarter, as did our water flow solutions product line in Mexico. I would like to point out that we have reached over 9,700 purification and water treatment services in Mexico, which attests to the growth and success of our Water-as-a-Service strategy. I believe that our performance in such a challenging environment is validation of our geographical and product diversification and, most importantly, of our core competitive strengths.

It is also very significant that we have achieved this growth while maintaining our positive credit outlook and improving our Bloomberg ESG score, which demonstrates our commitment to sustainability, accountability, and a positive social impact. This performance demonstrates the strength of our business across our main markets, as well as our ability to successfully integrate our acquisitions. As Mexico and other Latin American economies improve, our company should benefit. Going forward, we expect that some of the negative factors that were at play this quarter will recede. In Mexico, for example, we are anticipating a more favorable macroeconomic environment following the successful conclusion of the electoral process and the new administration's commitment to fiscal prudence and continuing of an independent monetary policy. This should help boost consumer confidence and contribute to more stable currencies. Thank you for listening.

I would now like to turn over the call to Mario, who will guide you through the quarterly finance results. I look forward to your questions.

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Thank you, Carlos. Good morning. Thank you for joining us. I will now discuss some of the financial highlights of the second quarter. As Carlos mentioned, sales grew 9.8% year-over-year this quarter, with a major contribution from the e-commerce platform in the U.S. and the growth in demand for water flow solutions in Mexico. EBITDA increased by 14% over the same period, thanks to good operational leverage synergies within the company. In fact, our cash conversion ratio continues to grow stronger as a result of greater fixed costs and expense absorption due to our growing sales and the more efficient management of our working capital. Nonetheless, during the quarter and in the first semester, our net margins and profit were affected by FX losses and higher net interest expense due to a net debt position and a weak currency in Argentina.

As Carlos pointed out, we faced a rather challenging environment this quarter in Latin America due to political uncertainty, natural disasters, slow economic growth, and the sharp depreciation of the Argentine peso, in addition to other weak currencies against the US dollar. Moreover, there were significant interest rate increases that affected consumer spending. Nonetheless, we were able to navigate successfully this difficult environment due to disciplined cost and expense controls through the zero-based budget approach that the company has implemented to counter these volatilities. In terms of our geographic breakdown, sales in Mexico grew 3.9% during the second quarter, accounting for 65% of our total sales and mainly driven by an increased demand for water flow solutions from the retail segment. Our operations in Argentina grew significantly as well, 23% in local currency. But the depreciation of the Argentine peso continued to offset this growth when reported in Mexican pesos.

In fact, if not for the depreciation of the Argentine peso, our total consolidated sales would have increased by 15% instead of almost 10% reported. As to the other countries category, we continue to seek new opportunities for growth and profitability, introducing new products and services with the appropriate pricing strategies, while closely monitoring the political economic issues that have affected many of those countries. With regards to our product mix, sales of Individual Solutions in the second quarter accounted for 88% of total sales and grew 14% year-over-year, boosted by an increase in demand in Mexico and the United States.

Integrated Solutions, on the other hand, accounted for 12% of total sales and registered a drop of 14%, which is mostly attributable to the decrease in government channel sales in Brazil, which is in line with our long-term strategy of de-emphasizing the public sector channel for the country. It is also worth noting that a larger contribution of the Water-as-a-Service platform has improved the quality of our EBITDA margins. These results confirm that we continue to execute successfully into our strategy, good integration results from our acquisitions, while pursuing organic growth through our businesses, strategies of Water-as-a-Service and water products. And we have done so while reaffirming our commitment to customer centricity and to ESG principles, while maintaining a strong balance sheet and a positive debt outlook.

Going forward, we feel confident that we will maintain double-digit growth in revenues and risk-adjusted EBITDA for the remainder of the year, keep the government channel sales below 10%, and preserve net debt to EBITDA ratio below 2x. Finally, please take note that starting July 2nd, we will start to consolidate the financial, environmental, and social results from IPS, which is our latest water flow acquisition in Argentina. The figures and data will appear under the segment Individual Solutions for Argentina. I would now like to open the floor for your questions. We will begin with the participants in the conference call, followed by our website users. Please proceed, Jamie.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure that your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll pause just a moment so that everyone has an opportunity to signal for questions. We'll hear at this time from Eric Necoechea of Merrill Lynch.

Eric Necoechea
Analyst, Merrill Lynch

Hello, Carlos, Mario, Ofelia. Thank you. Could you please give us further details regarding the 77% increase on depreciation year-over-year? Also, with the high volatility in Argentina and your increased exposure to the market, are you seeing any kind of hedge strategy to reduce the FX impacts you've had?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Hi, Eric, thanks for attending the conference. Regarding your first question, as explained in the press release, we have invested in solar renewable energy for all our factories in Mexico, you have the chance under Mexican tax law to do an accelerated depreciation on those assets. That is part of the explanation on why depreciation has increased. On top of that, not significantly, we also make some sales of some assets in Brazil, machinery assets that were no longer in use. Those two effects explain why depreciation increased quarter-over-quarter and when compared to second quarter of 2017. Regarding the Argentinian market, we have explored different hedging alternatives. Because of the high inflationary environment and the high interest rates, today, taking a hedge is quite expensive.

We have decided to focus more on managing the appropriate pricing strategies and to play well on the inflationary environment, we can counter the volatility affecting Argentina.

Carlos Rojas Aboumrad
CEO and Board Member, Grupo Rotoplas

Eric, this is Carlos. Especially with the environment that Argentina is living, it's our belief that strengthening our portfolio will be helping as a natural hedge

Eric Necoechea
Analyst, Merrill Lynch

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

We'll go to our next question from Liliana De Leon of GBM.

Liliana De Leon
Analyst, GBM

Hi, good morning. Thank you. Just a quick follow-up. Could you please repeat the main drivers behind the D&A increase?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Sure, Liliana. Two things. One, we invested in solar energy panels for our rooftop of the factories, you can do an accelerated depreciation under Mexican tax law. That is one thing that increased the depreciation. Second, we sell some machinery assets in Brazil, which also accounting to the depreciation. Those are the two main components.

Liliana De Leon
Analyst, GBM

Right. Perfect. My second question. Could you please give us more color in IPS integration? Considering the current volatility and effects, what we could expect in terms of revenues or EBITDA for the whole year or maybe for the next year?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

I think the appropriate way to answer that question is that when we did the press release regarding the acquisition, we indicate what were the multiples that the company was acquired for. I think it is fair to say that those multiples were used with an FX exchange rate of 27.5 to one. We are setting the starting point at that rate. Going further, what we are going to be paying close attention is to pricing, which is key not to lose the pass-through effect from the FX to inflation. Therefore, we are seeking to preserve growth into Mexican peso terms. Those are the two other data points that I can give to you at this point.

Liliana De Leon
Analyst, GBM

Right. Perfect.

Operator

For those on the phone line, if you find that your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. At this time, we do have a question from Santiago. It looks like he removed himself at this point. As a reminder then, it is star one if you do have a question. That is star one for any questions on the phone line. We will pause another moment. We do have a question from Rodrigo Verduzco of GBM.

Rodrigo Verduzco
Analyst, GBM

Hi. Thank you for the call. My question is regarding the expense control. That was one of the highlights for us, and we want to congratulate you on that. Could you give us some of your strategy for the expense control on the SG&A? We see without depreciation, you managed to drop it 12% year-over-year. Could you please give us any color on the cost management or expense management strategy you are implementing?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

Thanks, Rodrigo, for attending the call and for making such a good question. Back in 2014, Rotoplas started to implement the zero-based budget approach, which basically what we do is, every year we start it with a clean sheet and make people budget their expenses as it was a new company. They have to review everything they have in place. One is that every month, we review internally what are the deviations, what savings can be obtained. We have a group of 16 people across the company overseeing daily what expenses can be controlled and which ones can be reduced. In that way, what we are trying to achieve is, as you mentioned, a very disciplined approach to SG&A control and on the other hand, to increase sales. The mix creates a good operational leverage that we expect to continue on the coming future.

Rodrigo Verduzco
Analyst, GBM

Perfect. Thank you very much. Congratulations on that again.

Operator

We do have a follow-up question from Liliana De Leon of GBM.

Liliana De Leon
Analyst, GBM

Yes. Hi, thank you. Just a quick follow-up regarding CapEx. We saw a 90% increase in the year. It's fair to assume that it's related with Integrated Solutions, particularly Sytesa's plants?

Ofelia López Aranda
Head of Investor Relations, Grupo Rotoplas

Could you please repeat the question? I think we lost you at the beginning.

Liliana De Leon
Analyst, GBM

Yes. We saw an increase in CapEx for Mexican operations. It's fair to assume that it's allocated in Sytesa's plants?

Mario Romero
CFO, Grupo Rotoplas

About 70% of that increase is the solar panels I explained before on the depreciation. The remainder is on new plants that are being currently built in Sytesa that will start generating cash flow in the second half of the year.

Liliana De Leon
Analyst, GBM

Okay, perfect. That's very clear.

Operator

As a reminder, for questions on the phone, it is star one if you do have a question. That is star one for questions at this time on the phone. There are no other questions in the phone queue at this time.

Ofelia López Aranda
Head of Investor Relations, Grupo Rotoplas

On the webcast, we have also Liliana's question. I think you have asked for the same question on the line. I don't know if you have any follow-ups, Lily.

Operator

On the phone line, if there is another question, you can press star one at this time. There is no one else in the queue at the moment.

Ofelia López Aranda
Head of Investor Relations, Grupo Rotoplas

Perfect. Well, thank you, everyone, and thank you very much for your time and your interest. We hope you will join us again next quarter. Until then, we'll be sure to provide you with important updates.

Operator

That does conclude this call. We would like to thank everyone for your participation, and you may now disconnect.