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Earnings Call: Q2 2024

Aug 23, 2024

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Good morning, everybody. My name is Lars Jensen, and I'm the CEO of Royal Unibrew. With me today, I have our CFO, Lars Vestergaard, and we would like to welcome you to this webcast, where we will cover the release of our half-year results and afterwards take your questions. Now, please turn to slide number three. We have had a strong start to the year, with good momentum in the business and strong growth up until and including May. The weather in June had a negative impact on our performance in Q2. Despite the poor weather in June, we realized 1% organic volume growth in the quarter, driven by continued strong rebound in international and normalized Italian market and solid commercial performance in Northern Europe. Strong product mix and price increases across geographies drove an organic net revenue growth of 4% in the quarter.

The price mix of 3% was positively impacted by strong product mix in Western Europe and negatively impacted by channel mix in Northern Europe and the country mix in International. Organic EBIT growth in the second quarter was driven by strong commercial execution, innovations, and efficiency improvements. We increased market shares in our key categories and especially in our most important brands. Soft drinks have continued the strong progress in the first half of 2024 , especially driven by Denmark and the Baltic countries. Beer growth has been high due to the normalization of sales in the international segment, and the energy drinks segment continues its above-average growth, with the performance in H1 being driven by growth in all markets.

After we have completed the majority of the carve-out from Heineken in the Netherlands, the focus is on commercial execution and on the final aspects of the carve-out of Heineken. Norway is performing well, and the IT integration is on track. We are currently in the process of taking over the sales and distribution of PepsiCo's beverage portfolio in Belgium and Luxembourg markets. The agreement also includes a field service agreement on snacks for the markets, and the entire agreement is expected to commence on October first this year, after heavy IT integration work, separating the beverages and the snacks businesses.

So on the back of a strong first five months of the year, a weak June, and in combination with the development we have seen in the beginning of Q3, as well as one quarter in Benelux, we increase our outlook for net revenue to be above DKK 15 billion, while we specify our organic EBIT growth guidance to be in the upper half of the previously 9%-19% range. Benelux is not expected to add any profit this year due to the integration cost. Finally, the board has decided that we pay out extraordinary dividend of DKK 14.5 per share in the beginning of Q4. Now, please turn to slide 4. In the first half of the year, we achieved a 9% reduction in absolute carbon emission, despite the acquisitions of Vrumona in Holland and San Giorgio in Italy.

This equals a 29% organic CO2 emission reduction, and the significant reduction is partly due to the transition from oil to natural gas at certain facilities, but it's also a result of our Lahti Brewery in Finland now operating on 100% renewable energy. The installation of an additional heat recovery system in here in Faxe, in Denmark, has also led to a decrease in natural gas consumption, which, for the site, will result in a 30% reduction in energy usage when fully implemented. Measured in gigawatt-hours per hectoliter, our energy efficiency improved by 7% in the first half of 2024. We expect further improvements from the heat recovery system in Lithuania and other efficiency projects that will be implemented later this year.

During the second quarter, we have also had our long-term net zero targets for 2024 , approved by the Science Based Targets initiative, and our KPIs, roadmaps, and activities are aligned with the latest climate science and the Paris Agreement's goals to limit global warming by one point five degrees above the pre-industrial temperature levels. We have initiated the replacement of trucks in our own fleet with electrical vehicles, and we are also testing concepts with our providers to convert to more sustainable vehicles. The NoLo sugar and alcohol segment of our portfolio continues to develop very positively. We have launched new products in the first half within NoLo , such as the Lemonsoda Twist in Italy, Faxe Kondi Booster Pink Dragon and Frosty Blue Energy in Denmark, as well as a Mangali Energy Water with natural caffeine in Latvia.

Then I'm also very proud that in the alcohol-free segment, our Royal Pilsner Zero Point Zero was named the best non-alcoholic beer in Denmark in 2024 in competition and amongst 24 beers from 21 different breweries in Denmark. Finally, on this slide, I'm also happy to say that when it comes to gender diversity, both at the board level and the international management level, we are improving, and we are on the right path to achieve our goal of at least 40% of the underrepresented gender at both levels by 2025 . Now I will hand over to Lars, who will give a more detailed view on the financials.

Lars Vestergaard
CFO, Royal Unibrew

Thank you, Lars, and good morning to all of you. If we turn to slide number 5, I will take you through the financial results of Q2 and the first half of 2024. Our total volumes increased by 23% in the second quarter and by 27% in the first half, primarily driven by additional volumes from Holland and San Giorgio in Italy. They contributed by nearly 0.9 million hectoliters in the quarter and by approximately 1.9 million hectoliters in the first half of the year. The organic volume growth was 1% for the group. Net revenue was also impacted by M&A and grew 16% in the quarter two and 20% in the first half. EBIT grew faster than revenue, and EBIT grew 22% and reached DKK 866 million in the first half.

The EBITDA margin expanded by 30 basis points to 16.2, and the EBIT margin increased by 10 basis points to 11.7. Adjusting for the dilutive effects from M&A, the EBIT margin expanded organically by 1%. Net financial expenses increased significantly by 52% to DKK 163 million in the first half, as a result of higher net interest-bearing debt. As I will come back to, the development in financial expenses is better than expected when we initially guided for 2024, as results and cash flow have been better than what was initially expected when we started the year. We will therefore now expect a full-year net financial expense of a maximum of DKK 300 million, compared to around DKK 350 million previously.

Tax payments increased by 30% in quarter two, and thereby by 24%, in the first half to DKK 145 million. This corresponds to a tax rate of around 20.5%, in line with our full-year expectations of 21%. Earnings per share increased by 14% in the first half to 11.2 per share. Please turn to slide number 6. In Northern Europe, the volume development was flat at 5.4 million hectoliters, whereas net revenue increased organically by 2% to DKK 5 billion. In line with all competitors reporting, the numbers are impacted by weather in June. In Denmark, we have continued our strong commercial execution, and we have grown our value shares in nearly all categories.

In Finland, net revenue increased as an increase in sales of ready-to-drink more than offset declining beer sales. While net revenue from CSD and water remained stable in the first half, net revenue in the Baltic countries increased in the second quarter, fueled by strong performance within our strategic growth area framework, and in Norway, net revenue increased due to solid volume growth and favorable mix. In Western Europe, volumes increased by more than 200% to 2.4 million hectoliters due to acquisitions and strong performance in Italy. The organic growth was 6% in the first half. Strong product mix resulted in an organic net revenue growth of 18%. In Italy, the macroeconomic environment remains stable.

Our beer and carbonated soft drinks business have continued to expand throughout the second quarter, and we continue to win market shares in all the three categories we are operating in. In international, the strong growth continued in the second quarter, and volumes were up 35% in the first half to 0.7 million hectoliters, whereas net revenue increased by 29% to more than DKK 700 million. Negative price mix was due to a product and country mix. The African business was normalized, and we are witnessing robust growth across most markets. Despite a general downturn in the Canadian beer market, our business in Canada is successfully expanding its market shares, and in the Americas, our malt beverage business is growing as we now have the capacity to produce and freight rates have improved.

But also, due to a great effort by our team in the Americas. If you turn to slide number 7, here you can see the impact of M&A. On the left-hand side, you can see that 16% revenue growth in the quarter. Of that, 12% comes from M&A, and the remaining 4% comes from organic growth. Making the same numbers on EBIT, then around five percentage points of the 22% is from M&A, whereas the remaining 17% is organic. On top of both net revenue and EBIT, one could add the effects of the capacities that we have achieved from both acquisitions. If we look at how they are supporting the group, the two new production sites have delivered 177,000 hectoliters to the group.

So great to get the relief on our capacity constraints. If we look at where they have supported us, it is primarily giving us relief in Northern Europe on beer and international, and freeing up capacity in CSD in Denmark. Adjusting for M&A, the EBIT margin expanded by 190 basis points to 16.8 in the second quarter. If we turn to slide 8, free cash flow increased by DKK 17 million in the first half compared to last year. Higher net profit was partly offset by higher taxes and net financials, as well as higher CapEx. Cash flow from operating activities was DKK 122 million higher than in the first half of 2023. CapEx increased by 37% compared to last year, corresponding to DKK 113 million .

The result of all this is a free cash flow of DKK 560 million, which is DKK 15 million higher than last year. A key focus for us have been to reestablish our financial flexibility, and we have achieved this mainly by stronger operating profit than planned, and stronger delivery on our cash flow generation. Our net interest-bearing debt to EBITDA was at 2.4 at the end of the quarter, which is in line with our financial targets of being below 2.5. As our financial strength have improved, the board of directors have decided to pay out an extraordinary dividend of DKK 14.5 per share on October 1, in accordance with the mandate given to the AGM back in April this year.

Please turn to slide number nine. Here we have the outlook for the 2023-2024, which we have updated. On the back of the takeover of the Benelux, or, yeah, Belgium and Luxembourg, we increased our net revenue guidance to a minimum of DKK 15 billion, based on flat organic volume development and a positive price mix, leading to low- to mid-single-digit organic net revenue growth. After a solid performance up until mid-August, we have decided to narrow our organic EBIT growth guidance to 14%-19%, which is the upper half of the previously guided range of 9%-19%. This means that the reported EBIT is expected to be in the range of DKK 1.95 billion-DKK 2.025 billion Danish kroner.

Belgium and Luxembourg is expected to contribute to earnings, is not expected to contribute, with any earnings in the fourth quarter, as we have, quite a number of integration costs going on. Acquisitions are expected to contribute inorganically by, to EBIT by a minimum of DKK 80 million in, the 2024. As said earlier, the, net financial expenses are now expected to be around. To be at, at maximum DKK 300 million, Danish, excluding, currency-related losses or gains, whereas expectations for the tax rate and CapEx remains the same. After some years with the many moving parts, such as inflation, COVID, stocking, and destocking, we are heading for a fairly normal year.

Although the weather was poor in June, if you take the weather in totality, it is a fairly neutral year, and at the full year, we do not expect big impacts from weather, as we had both good and bad month in the summertime. When we made the guidance for the full year, we highlighted that the macroeconomic uncertainty remained high, and therefore the underlying volume growth would be modest. This seems to be the scenario that is materializing, and consumer spending in on-trade is not strong, as particular interest cost is having an impact on the discretionary income for our consumers. Off-trade is doing well, so nothing new compared to what we have said earlier on in the year.

With that, I would like to give the word back to you, Lars.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Thank you, Lars, and please turn to slide number 10. I'll take you through what is top of our agenda at the moment. The integration in Norway, which is mainly, and, almost only the ERP system, the Netherlands, where almost all carve-out is done, hence the, focus moves more towards, finishing the CapEx programs and then the commercial agenda. San Giorgio in Italy is now fully integrated, while for the supply chain organization in Italy, the remaining part is the capacity investments, which is ongoing, some ESG initiatives, and general improvements on site. New to the agenda in the integration is Belgium and Luxembourg, as Lars talked about, which we have been working on for some months, and now, with the go live, which is planned and will be executed on the first of October.

The integrations are going according to the plan, and we are seeing the first financial and commercial results of the efforts. As mentioned at earlier occasions, efficiency improvements are very high on our agenda. We have implemented a more stringent and structured process around discovering, prioritizing, executing, and monitoring the efficiency improvement projects, and this will remain high on the agenda in the coming quarters and years. We will continue to invest behind our growth categories and our strong and important brands to drive further market share growth. Through innovations and strong commercial execution, we believe we can grow faster than the market in value terms. It is also a top priority to deliver on our long-term organic EBIT growth target of an average of 6%-8% per year, while improving our EBIT margin at the same time.

This year, we are clearly above that target, and now we are working hard to secure the maximum momentum going into 2025 and beyond. We'll continue to monitor possible changes to consumer behaviors, and macroeconomic uncertainty remains. It is important that we react quickly to potential changes should they occur, and they will occur. Finally, our ambitious ambitions in the ESG area have not decreased, so we will continue to pursue and execute on our ambitious targets within this area. And with that, we are ready to take your questions. So operator, will you please take it from here?

Operator

Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to slowly press star one and one on your telephone keypad to be prompted into the Q&A queue. Your name will be announced when it's your turn to ask your question. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Thank you. We will now go to our first question. One moment, please. Your first question comes from the line of Thomas Lind from Nordea. Please go ahead.

Thomas Lind
Analyst, Nordea

Good morning, Lars. I have two questions here around the guidance that you have. First one, top line. Now you're saying at least DKK 15 billion . Just can you maybe elaborate on the difference here between around and at least DKK 15 billion? And then maybe also if you could put a few comments on your flat organic volume growth assumption for the full year. You delivered 3% in the first half. You have very easy comps in the second half, and you're saying that you are seeing a solid momentum in July, August. So just here, what are you imagining happening with the consumer in the second half?

T hen the second question would be around your EBIT guidance narrowing. Just maybe if you could elaborate a bit on what's behind the narrowing here. You're saying solid July and mid-August. Is that it, or is there, you know, more here? Thank you.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Yes. Thank you, Thomas. On the guidance for the top line, I think there's two readings into this. We are adding the Belgium-Luxembourg business, and now we know what the timing is of that. And that was not a part of our initial guidance, so we are adding that. It's not significant that this is a small quarter, and it's not a small business. It's a reasonable business, but it's not as big as some of the other add-ons of new countries that you have seen in the past. So that's a piece of it. The most important thing is the momentum in the business. And as we have highlighted, we have a very strong momentum in the business until and including May.

And then the weather took a bit of that off, and I think if June would not have been bad in the industry, not only in the beverage industry, but I think in all FMCG country, for all FMCG country, companies, then I would have guessed that we could maybe have changed it to something that was slightly higher than what we do now. So we take the bottom off, which is positive, and of course, we are also now seven and a half months into the year. So we are confirming basically our strong momentum overall.

I think what you should also read into this, and we have also given comments on it, and that is that there is a bit of a mix change in the market. So there's a little bit less on trade, and that is then being consumed more at home. So that is off trade. And that, of course, also from a revenue point of view, initially dilutes a bit of the revenue, but it's small numbers, you know, a little bit here and there. So the overarching thing is that you should read into this, that we are following the assumptions that we put in the beginning of the year.

And then on the 3%, and that we had in the beginning, you need to also remember that we had some easy comparisons in the beginning of the year, among others, due to Italy. And it's not like we will hold ourselves back, if we can do a volume growth, which is slightly higher than our current assumptions. But I think you should overall also read through this, that we are more value-focused than we are volume-focused. So we are not running after empty calorie net revenue volumes. We want to have a balanced approach to the quality of the revenue that we capture.

So that's, I think, the comments that I would give on the top-line side, and then maybe, Lars, you would comment on the EBIT.

Lars Vestergaard
CFO, Royal Unibrew

Yeah, I think if we look at EBIT, then what drives our expectations to the top half of the guidance is, as Lars mentioned, on revenue and top line, we are neutral-ish on the full year compared to what we guided initially. So bad weather in June is compensated by good weather in July and the beginning of August. What takes us to the upper half is that our efficiency initiatives are progressing well. And both the relief we got from the sourcing from Italy and the Netherlands have given us more easy, what do you say? We have better service levels to our customers, and then we have been able to take some cost out in other places than in the acquired companies from that.

So that is helping us. But in general, most of the business is performing according to the plans we set out at the beginning of the year.

Thomas Lind
Analyst, Nordea

Thank you, guys. Very clear.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Richard Withagen from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Richard Withagen
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Good morning, all. I've got two questions, please. First of all, your marketing and sales expenses grew slower than revenues in Q1 and then faster again in Q2 of 2024. And previously, you talked about intense competition in store. Does that continue, or are you allocating marketing money in a different way? And are there any major differences among the markets? So that's the first question. And the second question is, you've moved production from Denmark to the Netherlands, and maybe already also to Italy. So when is the next sizable transfer of production from Denmark to one of the other international facilities going to take place? And by when should Denmark be on a more normal capacity utilization level? Thanks. Yeah. On the in-store versus marketing, I don't.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

We do not really detect any larger movements here. So this is tweaks in general. So if you look at the old Royal Unibrew markets, it's not very big changes that we do, to be honest. I think that the biggest change that you see is what we're building up in Holland, and it's not a balance between spending less on marketing and more on field force, but we are ramping up on field force, and I've hired people that went live with the setup around 1st of July, and that means that we are in the stabilization phase, where we are building up the organization to be able to deliver on a consistent in-store execution.

So you're not seeing any results of that. That is something that we will see. I think more, hopefully towards the high season, November, December, or the second high season in November, December, and into next year. But no larger movements, and we do not see from ourselves, and we do not really detect any larger change of priorities on in-store versus above the line from our competitors, either. So that is the view. When it comes to the question around production, our supply chain, as Lars said, has been fairly good at providing the service levels that are more in accordance with what we saw back in 2018, 2019, and 2020.

So, we have had a relatively strong ramp-up, but also because we have been better in allocating volume earlier. So it has been more well-planned in terms of where to produce what. We are still getting some help between the countries. But it has been well-planned and well-executed, and that's the reason why the service level has been so high. So the remaining part of it is when we have capacities up and running with a new PET line in Denmark, with a can line and the glass line in Vrumona, and the full capacity up and running in San Giorgio. That would more be a combination of efficiency gains of not using vehicles to move goods between countries.

So that will yield some efficiency gains, and then on top of that, we will get capabilities that we believe will enhance our commercial position for our brands in the various markets. And that will be a ramp-up that will with the capabilities that we are putting in. All of it will be up and running around May. So there will be a ramp-up of two of the projects in the autumn, late autumn here into wintertime. And then the last pieces will be end of Q1 and then into the beginning of Q2.

And then we should, unless that growth will increase significantly, we will be in a good position and thereby be able to strike a better balance on the efficiency use and thereby create some efficiency gains. I hope that

Richard Withagen
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Very clear. Thanks, Lars. Yeah. Yeah, that's very clear. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Mandeep Sangha from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Mandeep Sangha
EU Consumer Staples Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Good morning, Lars and Lars. Thank you very much for, for taking my two questions. Just wanted to touch on the Northern Europe division. When we look at the second quarter, pricing rolled quite aggressively, and are just down to about sort of 1% in the second quarter versus nearly 4% in the first quarter. Just wanted to really understand the dynamics there. Is it really the channel mix that you sort of alluded to earlier between the shift from the on-trade to the off-trade? And how should we maybe think about that in the second half, given your comments around July and August? And my second question was actually more of a bigger picture, longer-term question, really around sort of the Pepsi portfolio.

You obviously would have seen Carlsberg's ongoing acquisition of Britvic, and one of the things the company has said is that they very much want to expand to new markets with the Britvic partnership. Could you maybe sort of touch upon, does that change your strategy at all, or do you remain confident you can sort of be competitive in that Britvic Pepsi expansion going forward? Thank you very much.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Yeah. If I take the last question first, and then Lars can answer the question around the numbers in Northern Europe. I think it has been pretty clear for quite some years that not only Pepsi, but a lot of the partners that we work together with. So that is - it's not just a soft drink play, but we also have seen that with our partnership with Heineken, as an example, but also among our spirits and wine partners, and that they would also like to get synergies and get scale. I think we have seen some companies in the market that have done this really well.

I think if you look at the creation of CCEP and the Hellenic journey in the Coke system, I think they have been able to prove that they have created a lot of cross-country synergies. So this is, of course, something that we, I'll say we all look at. This is something that we have been able to do with our own portfolios, with our own supply chain. Richard just asked a question around utilization of capacity, and of course, if you have facilities that are nearby, you can optimize your build-up of capacities and capabilities, and that helps everybody. It is simpler to work together with fewer partners. If you work together with only one partner, you also get very dependent on that one.

We see that when we work together with our own suppliers sometimes, then it sometimes become more like a power game, when this is the case. So all in all, I think what you see here is a wish from a lot of partners to consolidate, to create efficiencies in the supply chain, efficiency in the execution, create coherence in priorities. So I think it is for the partners something that they want. It is not something that changes our strategy. I think it enhances our strategy, that is the way that the partners think about their business. So no, it doesn't change anything to our strategy at all.

Lars Vestergaard
CFO, Royal Unibrew

If we jump to the pricing question, then if you look channel by channel, product by product, we are following the plans we have, so there is no additional pricing pressure or anything in any category. The answer is really down to weather and what impact that has on country mix and channel mix. One of our high-priced markets is Finland, where the weather was pretty poor, and we have a fairly high share of on-trade in Finland. When the weather is bad in June, it has a pretty big impact on price mix for the whole northern region. It is really down to weather and channel mix in Northern Europe.

Mandeep Sangha
EU Consumer Staples Equity Research Analyst, Barclays

Super. Thank you both very much.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Søren Samsø from SEB. Please go ahead.

Søren Samsøe
Member of Global Investment Banking Management, SEB

Yes, good morning, gentlemen. So, I think it looks like it's going well in most areas, adjusted for the weather effects, of course. But one of the black boxes, at least I have, is the Norwegian business, where you say profitability has been restored. What does that actually mean? Does that mean that it's back to where you at similar was, where you bought it in terms of absolute numbers or in terms of margin? And what can we expect for this business in second half and in 2025 ? Thank you.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Yeah. So, the Norwegian business is on track to deliver on the profitability that we acquired. So that is the aim of this year, that is to restore what we acquired. So the team has been able to do that by taking out costs, so enhancing the efficiencies. And that's both done by the team in Norway, but also by the help of all the group functions like procurement, as an example. And as we have talked about on several quarters, and because of the Norwegian kroner have devalued and are still at a devalued level, we have taken price increases through the last many windows, and have thereby been able to restore or get back to the profitability on a per hectoliter that we acquired.

So that's the aim of this year, and then while implementing our ERP platform towards the end of the year, we have another layer of synergies that we will be trying to hunt down and for 2025. A part of it is, of course, on the admin, logistics, back office side, by having better and stronger systems, and the other part of it is, as an example, the cross-selling so that we can to a much higher degree do cross-selling between the Solera portfolio and the Hansa portfolio. But that is the majority of that work is when we are live with the ERP system.

Søren Samsøe
Member of Global Investment Banking Management, SEB

Okay. Thanks for that. And then, second question is on Italy, more on when you expect to have moved all of the production of Ceres to Italy. Thank you.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Yeah. So we are looking at the San Giorgio facility as a network addition. We are ramping up on capacity, and that will go live in April or so. We will be up and running with the capability piece and the capacity piece. And that means that we hope that Italy will be supply chain self-sustainable on, I don't know, 90% of the volume from thereafter. And that means that we are going to free up a lot of capacity in the Nordics that can be utilized to support the international business or the Nordic business. And then, of course, that is going to drive synergies in both places.

So there will always be an efficiency effect coming out of that. It produced for the Italian market. The numbers that Lars mentioned in the beginning is a combination of help from Vrumona to support the Nordic business, and then it is volume that has already been produced in San Giorgio, sold in the Italian market, and thereby helping the Danish supply chain to deliver what is what has been needed for international.

Søren Samsøe
Member of Global Investment Banking Management, SEB

Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for that.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please slowly press star one and one on your telephone keypad. We will now take our next question. One moment, please. And your question comes from the line of André Thormann from Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

André Thormann
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Danske Bank

Yes, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. So my first question is in terms of gross margin, and I'm just wondering what you're seeing here for the second half. You saw a good improvement of 160 basis points in the first half and even more organically. So can you give us any indication of what we should think here for gross margins in the second half? That's the first question. The second question, and I'm sorry if this was already answered, but in terms of Norway, now that Carlsberg have renewed the contract with the Pepsi, do you need to rethink the blue sky case in the Norwegian business?

Can you get profitability higher up in Norway now that it looks more difficult to get a Pepsi contract there? Thank you.

Lars Vestergaard
CFO, Royal Unibrew

Yeah, thanks, Andre, and of course, we're not guiding on gross profit, so I'll just give you a few data points to answer your question. We have hit the majority of cost categories throughout the year, so our cost levels during the year is more or less stable. Which means that we should not have any incremental savings or increases coming in the second half compared to the first half. But there's, of course, another piece to gross margin that is the channel mix, where if on-trade comes back, then gross margin goes up. So there's a lot of moving parts in terms of growth, gross profit.

So I think the answer to your question is that the improvements we have seen in the first half will continue into the second half. And of course, whether it goes up or down a little bit is also dependent on channel mix, because on-trade has a much higher gross profit than off-trade, as an example.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Yeah, and on your question around Norway, you know, blue sky scenarios is a little bit like kind of like saying that, you know, you shoot for the stars and hit the moon. It is. We are not buying companies because of blue sky scenarios. We are buying companies because that we can see that we can enhance the business organically. And then, often, that comes when we have been ramping up in increasing the, I would say, the capabilities and enhancing the local portfolios, then that sometimes comes with optionalities to put more business into what we have acquired.

I think Norway demonstrated and have demonstrated that the takeover, the Diageo portfolio, has been a project that has been very well executed. You always risk a lot when you change partners or change setup, and the Norwegian business have been able to avoid that and start to build further on, on top of that. There's a lot of categories in Norway where we can enhance our business. We are working up our presence in all the old categories, so to speak. Our RTD portfolio with Hansa Hard Seltzer is performing extremely well and is building on top of the RTD, sorry, the cider portfolio of Grevens.

If you just look at how that transformation have gone in Finland as an example, then I think the potential for us as a business, if we can make a copy of the transition of RTD and cider, as we have seen in Finland, and we can do the same in Norway, then that would be as valuable as any partner agreement when you look at it from a bottom-line point of view. So I think there's many ways to try to achieve the objective of building a business in Norway that is ending up as being as strong as Denmark, Finland, the three Baltic countries.

And I would give you the same answer if it was a question around Sweden or Norway or Holland, or the way that we look at Belgium or other countries where we are competing in the mainstream scenario. And also, you know, back to the answer that I gave earlier on, no, we are not changing our strategy. We have a very, very solid strategy. I think if you look at our performance in the second quarter and compare that to peers, yes, if you bundle Northern Europe and Western Europe together to create a comparison to our peers, we are the one that have the lowest loss of volume, with a -0.8% volume loss in the second quarter.

And if you look at the I would say the two nearest in terms of geographies, one is down 3% and the other one is down 5.4%. So I think we have proven that the strategy that we are pursuing is well functioning, and because of competition taking certain moves, it doesn't change the way that we do our business, operate, and execute for all our partners, and not only for Pepsi, as you mentioned.

André Thormann
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Danske Bank

Thank you so much.

Operator

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Peter Sehested
Equity Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Yep. Thank you very much for taking my question. I have actually only one. It pertains to margins in France and Italy. If you could I know you don't guide specifically, but if you sort of tell me where the index for that is at the moment compared to what you see is normal or where you want it to be, and sort of for timeline to achieve the sort of 100% index. Thank you.

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Yeah. So I think when we look at EBIT margins in Italy, it really depends on the mix of our products. And what, of course, changes a bit the margins in Italy is the private label business that we acquired from San Giorgio. So we need to get a comparison, we need to have a full twelve-month period. If I look at it individually, in terms of the different buckets that we have with beer, private label, soft drink, energy drinks, we have a normal margin level, which we are happy with.

So there's nothing that indicates if you look at what has been achieved in Q2 in actual. I think it's a yeah. Yeah, you cannot see it, so Q2 at first half is a pretty normal half year, I would say, in France and Italy together. But to look at it from a full year perspective is probably the best way to do it. So you need to wait a little bit on that one. But we have no initial margin challenges in any of the geographies. We have a very strong performance in Italy, whereas the performance by itself relative to the market in France is very strong.

We are one of the few companies that actually grow our business, but the market has been a bit down due to weather, also like in the Nordics, in June. So that takes it slightly down. But overall, we are happy about where we are.

Peter Sehested
Equity Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

All right. Then just perhaps a follow-up on the private label in Italy, because I think we discussed this at the previous call, and I had a question on this, whether you would dispose of it, et cetera, in order to better utilize the capacity on higher margin, own brand, et cetera. And I think you, that wasn't your plan, and you believed you could do something with that business to get it better. So just your thoughts at this point in time, exactly on what is it precisely that you're planning to do here to sort of improve the profitability on that, the private label business?

Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

I think we are, of course, looking at the capacity in Italy in combination with what capacity we have in other places. The private label business we have in Italy is making money. So, I think for us, it's a pretty good situation to be in, that we can increase the capacity of the site in San Giorgio and not have to cancel any profitable contracts, although they are, of course, not as profitable as when we sell our own products. So to get the scale and efficiency out of the plant in San Giorgio, we are keeping all the profitable private label contracts.

And if we are running out of capacity in a few years' time due to beer growth and we cannot expand capacity, then, of course, we'll start to look at taking down some of the private label contracts. But so far, it's actually a pretty good business, and we plan to keep it as long as we can make money on it.

Peter Sehested
Equity Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.

Operator

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Lars Jensen
CEO, Royal Unibrew

Thank you for participating, everybody, and for good questions, and I wish you all a nice day, and if you need more from us, you know where to catch us.

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