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Earnings Call: Q2 2024

Jul 25, 2024

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Good morning and welcome to Lamor's second quarter results webinar. My name is Tapio Pesola, and as of July, I'm in charge of communications and investor relations here at Lamor. I look forward to talking to all of you over the coming months. Next, together with Vesa and Johan, we'll be going through the results we announced this morning. We'll go through the highlights of the quarter, and we'll also discuss focuses going into the second half. Presentations will be followed by a Q&A, so feel free to start posting questions already during the presentations. With that, go ahead, Johan.

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

Thank you. First of all, thanks a lot for joining us this morning and a very, very pleasant summer morning, at least here in the Northern Hemisphere. First of all, I would like to start off with giving you a little bit of a glimpse of what happened during Q2 with a couple of or three different key takeaways. Our expansion continued in the Middle East. I think that this is a great example of how our land and expand growth strategy has really been taking off, and especially then in the Middle East, which is a good example of how we want to drive the business going forward. And here, Lamor then won a three-year service agreement worth EUR 55 million. And then also we signed a four-month extension of the NCEC ongoing service agreement that we have in place.

So good examples of, let's say, the trust in us and also that what we talked about earlier, that we have very strong references also that we are relying on going forward. The financial improvement from Q1 improved. However, the revenue is below our estimates for the target period. But still, I would like to highlight that now what we put in place during the beginning of the year, the Next Leap program, has really given us an opportunity to improve the profitability compared to Q1 2024. And this is something that we are pushing forward and having a strong focus on the operational efficiency and also improving the profitability of the business.

This was said earlier too that this is very important also when we are then scaling up the business, and that's why the Next Leap program is in place really to create this foundation that we can grow from. The sales pipeline remains extensive. This has not changed. This is still the same situation as previously. And I mean, what you can see is that the cumulative order intake during the first half of the year is greatly higher than in the comparative period last year. And then Lamor is involved in, and that we said earlier too, is that the tendering process in several projects are continuing, and that's where we are heavily involved. And this is not only in one region, it's in all three regions that we are involved in. And as a follow-up to that, the guidance for 2024, we keep that unchanged.

That means in accordance to the revenue, we keep it on the same level as last year. And then as a follow-up of that, the market situation and uncertainty, especially in the schedules of the larger tenders, means that we will keep the guidance also throughout this period. Then, as I alluded earlier, that the land and expand strategy, what we've talked about in our strategy earlier is what you could say globally local. And then to add to that is the land and expand, where the local presence is heavily dependent also on local partners or partner networks that we are tying up to us to ensure that we have the, let's say, the cultural and the local aspects involved in the activities that we have ongoing in the areas where we are present. And then as an example, then the progress in the Middle East.

We are talking about Kuwait, same thing, land expand. Oman, same thing, and then also in respect to Saudi Arabia, where the key developments during the Q2 period, where we had in April the NCEC service agreement, four-month extension, and then in May the NEOM service agreement that we announced earlier. So globally local, and then very heavily dependent on the partner network in these regions that brings the local aspect. And then we have the global, you could say the references and the experience then for operating similar activities in different parts of the world. Some highlights in respect to the business during Q2 in our segments. So environmental protection, I talked about the service agreement in the Middle East. I talked about the extension also in the Middle East.

And then not to forget the rental and response center that we are housing together with the European Maritime Safety Agency and also is also hosting our rental activities and that we open now in the Netherlands. When we are talking about EMSA, EMSA has five different similar centers around Europe, and we are now hosting in the Netherlands the North Sea Response Center, and then in Finland we have the Nordic Baltic Sea Response Center that we are also hosting. Hosting means training equipment and capabilities, logistical capabilities to deploy the equipment that is involved in these centers, which we are very proud of and gives us then an opportunity to have a larger role when we are talking about response activities, and whether it's then rental or other activities. Cleanup projects continue in Peru and Ecuador, and we are progressing in these areas.

We have a strong foothold in respect to cleanup projects where we are talking about drill cuts or where we are talking about then land areas that are being remediated. Then technology deliveries, that is still the bread and butter and very important part of our whole activity. They have continued then with deliveries into Asia, then meaning Hong Kong and then in Europe overall. Then material recycling, Bangladesh Waste Management Facility. We have the, let's say, the equipment is on site and the site is also ready for the startup of the construction part. Good progress in respect to that part. Then the chemical recycling facility in Kilpilahti is now getting closer and closer to completion. I will take a deeper look at this later on in the presentation, so let's keep that for that part.

Then another area that we've been announcing and talking about is the aquaculture, our, let's say, entrance into the aquaculture market then with water treatment technologies. The aquaculture market is quite a big market. If you're looking globally, it's close to $300 billion market globally. Then this is our niche where we are trying then to be present in the aquaculture market and through then a customer, the Norwegian Shipping Company Frøy. Then if you're talking about the soil remediation and restoration part, focus is on Middle East and South America for the current period or during the quarter. In Kuwait, we are still ramping up the soil washing facilities, but we are at a very high operational level, but it's still some fine-tuning that is required on that. Let's take a look at that a little bit later in the presentation.

If you talk about operationally, other projects in the company have progressed as planned. The soil remediation in Kuwait, I mean, this is, you could say, a world-leading activity that we are involved in. Up to now, we've been treating 3.2 million tons of oil contaminated to different levels soils that have then been for the 3.2 million bioremediated. During the last quarter, it was 1.1 million tons that were treated. So quite good progress. Now we are starting to be at the level that we really can see what are the true costs in the project and areas that can still be optimized and gives us a possibility to look at the historical data and looking forward. So this is in a very good position at the moment. The soil washing plants are in operation.

The ramping-up process has taken a little bit longer than anticipated. That's something that we are working hard on at the moment. As I said, I mean, this is a unique reference globally. This is something that is catching a lot of attraction around the globe because, as we've been talking about earlier, that areas to be remediated is present and similar type of, you could say, contamination of the areas, whether it's then chemical contamination or whether it's then oil contamination, same thing. Similar type of treatment processes need to be utilized that. That's why now we have a very strong reference with different type of technologies to tend to the varying contamination levels that is then present here, for example, in Kuwait.

What you can see in the picture here, that the different sections, they are, let's say, divided according to the contamination levels and also is then getting treated in the right way. That's a very strong push forward in respect to Kuwait. Our plastic waste or the chemical recycling plant, the concept facility that we are now building up in Kilpilahti is progressing towards the completion and then startup during H2 or the latter part of the year. The plan still remains here that 40,000 tons capacity material to be treated capacity in Finland during the medium term and then expanding then based on the concept that we are now generating in Kilpilahti towards 100,000 tons of material that can be treated in this type of facility.

And then the exciting new area then, you could say that what we are doing here is we are providing the aquaculture industry with the capability to treat water that is then used to tend to the fish in the farmed area. So what we are delivering here to Frøy, for example, is an inbuilt system in ships or in a ship, the first ship now to treat the water for the fish that is then being brought on board for removing parasites from the farmed salmon. And this is a market, a large market in Norway that also has its tentacles across the globe. So in that respect, it's a very exciting market. And now we are then in the installation phase of the first treatment facility in the first ship out of many for our customer Frøy.

So with these words, I would like to hand over to Vesa, who will walk through the financial update.

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

Yes, thank you, Johan. And let's start from something that you touched on already, actually. So the revenue and profitability and development from Q1. So our revenue grew by EUR 3.2 million from Q1. And just like we said in the end of Q1, when the revenue grows, as the costs are under control, it will have direct impact to profitability. And therefore, the first quarter profitability or adjusted EBITDA of net sales was half a percentage point. Sorry, 2 percentage points, it was absolute EUR 500,000. And that grew now to EUR 1.4 million and 5.1 percentage points of net sales. Total first half revenue this year was EUR 51 million versus EUR 56.7 million a year ago. And then adjusted EBIT, EUR 1.9 million versus EUR 3.9 million in first half 2023.

The adjusted EBIT margin accordingly was EUR 3.7 million versus 3.7% versus 6.9%. When looking at the numbers, I still want to highlight that during second quarter, we made an update to the Kuwait project total costs. In the total Kuwait project context, the update is reasonably minor, actually, but it does have impact because of the cumulative nature. It does have impact to the second quarter and first half reported numbers. And that impact is EUR 1.9 million, and it is both in revenue and in the adjusted EBIT. So if you in a way want to exclude that, just to understand the operational development there, without this update, the second quarter adjusted EBIT percentage would have been 11.4%, and then the total first half would have been 7.2%. Okay, then moving on to the revenue split and how that has developed from a year ago.

Let's start from the product portfolio. The environmental protection was last year 47% of the total revenue. Now, due to mainly actually two oil spills during first half in Latin America, this has a bigger share of the total revenue in first half of this year. The other way around, material recycling was stronger. First half last year, it was 8%. The reason for that was that during first half last year, the Bangladesh Port Reception Facility revenue was quite high. It was in a very active stage that buildup and project. Now it is smaller than in the comparison period. Equipment and services split is actually quite stable. It was 29%-71% a year ago. No big change there. In the areas, close to the same picture what we had in the end of Q1.

So first half last year, North and South America was 14%. Now I mentioned the two oil spills there during first half this year. That has increased the proportionate share of revenue coming from North and South America. And then accordingly, the Middle East Africa share was 25% and is now 19%. And again, the Bangladesh strong impact there is visible. And sorry, I think I said Europe and Africa, I mean Europe and Asia. Okay, then moving on to the order backlog. So end of first half order backlog is close to what we had a year ago. So in the end of first half 2023, we were at EUR 163 million. Now it's at EUR 159.1 million.

You may remember that when we were going through the first quarter order intake, orders received during first quarter, we were already saying that being EUR 16 million during first quarter, that was the highest order intake we had during the last five quarters. That same trend has now continued. Johan talked through the background for that a bit. Now we had very strong order intake in the second quarter. The total first half order intake was EUR 85.3 million. Again, as a comparison, it's more than 600% growth from comparable period last year. But if you look at the total year order intake last year, that was EUR 44 million. So we had not quite the double, but almost the double order intake already during the first half than what we collected during the full last year.

Number of employees, we have this consistently in the materials, and we want to mention this, but it's good to note that the nature of business and the flexibility and agility of the Lamor Business Model is really high. Therefore, this can fluctuate a lot based on ongoing activities and ongoing oil spills around the world and other projects. And this capability is one of the cornerstones of Lamor operations. And during first half, the amount of full-time equivalents or full-time employees in full-time equivalents actually did come down a bit after the oil spills in LATAM were completed. But these are the numbers today. So in the end of the period, we had 584 persons, mainly in Middle East and Africa, and then second largest group in North and South America, and then in Europe and Asia. And then average employees were 659 persons.

So here you can see already the difference between average during first half and the end of first half being quite different. So that is just a sign of the flexibility that I talked about there. Then moving to something that I'm sure extremely high on everybody's agenda, including the management, and that's the net working capital development. So in the end of the first half, sorry, first quarter, the net working capital was EUR 77.1 million. In the end of the second quarter, it was EUR 77.8 million. And if you look at the kind of the structure of the net working capital, we had good development there. We were able to make the net working capital structure healthier. And we were able to shorten certain cycles in especially Middle East receivables. But it doesn't come through in the numbers yet. And the total level of the net working capital stays high.

This is something that is needless to say almost is absolutely super high on the management agenda. There's an increasing amount of activities ongoing to continue the positive trend in the lead times and in the kind of a turnaround of those things, but then also get the absolute amount to start to reduce. Main drivers there continue to be Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and the sizable projects there. The net cash flow from operations during the first half was EUR 11.1 million, sorry, negative EUR 11.3 million. Then if you look at the second quarter again, the picture is actually quite different than for the total first half. The second quarter net cash flow from operations was positive EUR 1.8 million versus then positive EUR 1.1 million in the second quarter of 2023.

Financial position remains quite good or reasonably good to say the minimum equity ratio is over 36% and net gearing is 90%. Now as a reminder, so in the comparison period last year, the EUR 25 million green bond that was taken in August, that is the biggest change between the first half 2023 and the first half 2024. That's the kind of the magnitude change in those numbers is coming from that. Then if you still summarize the key figures, revenue second quarter EUR 27.1 million, comparable period EUR 33.8 million, and then the total first half EUR 51 million versus EUR 57 million a year ago. Then the adjusted EBIT EUR 1.4 million versus EUR 3.7 million a year ago. Then for the second quarter and first half EUR 1.9 million versus EUR 3.9 million for the full first half.

And now I still want to repeat that EUR 1.9 million impact which is both on revenue and adjusted EBIT. So if you want to do the arithmetic of adding that to numbers, the adjusted EBIT would be EUR 3.3 million. And then the first half for the second quarter and the first half would be EUR 3.8 million. But that concludes the financial part, and then I hand over back to Johan.

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

Thank you, Vesa. As Vesa pointed out, that the reduced working capital, that's highly on our agenda for the second half of this year. And that is something that we have looked into, let's say, locally, that how we manage it locally in respect to the ongoing, the major projects that especially. And then also put in place a rigorous assessment and optimization of new needs that are coming up at the moment.

As we were alluding to, that the funnel has not disappeared. It's still strong. And that means that we need to make sure that we have effective approaches to the projects going forward. But now we have a clear view of the activities that needs to be put in place in respect to managing the working capital and reducing that throughout our operations. So that is one area that is high on our agenda and that we live and breathe going forward. And then in respect to the expanding the market and our presence even further, I think that what we pointed out in respect to one area out of the others that we have ongoing is very important here. That the tendering processes is something that we are focusing on at the moment and where we are in the, let's say, negotiation phase in several large activities.

That's something that is very important in respect to the expansion of the market presence. Then, of course, we need to highlight also the, let's say, the dual impact of the geopolitics. As we all know, that if you're looking on one hand, the need for our this type of services that we have increased during the, let's say, at least during the first half of the year. We are not talking about just one area. For example, in Southeast Asia, we all have heard about the recent events in respect to the, let's say, maritime logistics and especially then around Singapore. So these in the big logistical nodes, this is something that is very high on the agenda. And that's where it's not just a single equipment that is needed.

It's the expertise of planning for events and then also being able to deploy when events appear because time is of essence in respect to costs and also in respect to impact on the environment. Then continued focus on Next Leap. Next Leap is our attention, let's say, the name for the activities that we are aiming at the current operational activities in respect to efficiency, profitability, and also ensuring the scalability that we have safe and efficient operations that can be scaled and with the right type of cost structure than when we are going forward. And that's then enabling the long-term growth of the company. And that's a big important area. And this is just to remind you of we went through this last time that these are the different work streams that we are focusing on in.

To get the structure in place that can then be efficient in respect to the growth part. With clear targets that is being followed up on, let's say, a timely manner to be able to ensure that the work is progressing. That's why we already see signs of this, the effects, the positive effects of the work that we put in place when we are looking on comparing Q1 to Q2. This is something that we would like to then come back and show you even more progress when we are going forward. A short summary of the focus for the second half of the year. Then questions and answers.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Thank you, Johan. And thank you, Vesa, for the presentations. We are ready to start the Q&A. We already had a few questions ready lined up, and please keep posting also during the session so we can answer all of them. The first question is from Matti Koskelainen. Your guidance implies a clear pickup in the second half revenues against the first half. What are the main levers in your estimates? So you have basically, what gives you confidence in a stronger second half?

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

I mean, we already can see the improvement in respect to Q1 to Q2. Now focusing on the second half of the year, we are confident that, let's say, the projects that are in the pipeline and also the activities that are ongoing in the market, that they will support us in getting to the revenue target that we have set for the year. Okay.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

I'll add, sorry for switching this. I'll add one follow-up to that, actually. As per the second half, how much are you expecting NEOM, the agreement signed in May, to contribute in 2024 already?

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

So maybe I'll take it. So the structure and the way the NEOM project will work is that during the third quarter, we actually focus on building the service capability in Saudi Arabia. And then the actual revenue starts to then flow when we start the service. So when we start to provide the service, that will then initiate also the revenue. And that is expected to happen during the fourth quarter. So the first is the mobilization phase. And then we are ready to deliver the services on site and, I mean, have the readiness with the full project then going forward.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Thank you. And sorry about the technical difficulties in the beginning. Apparently the first question was not heard, but I think the answer was still clear. Let's move on to the next question. Profitability, Antti had a question about the EBIT margins going forward. What are the main uncertainties in the EBIT margin keeping you from giving guidance on profitability? Would you say that also revenue outlook has similar uncertainties, or are these more related to costs? Actually, Aapeli also had the same kind of question. What is behind not giving the guidance? And are you planning to give one later this year?

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

You want to start?

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

I can start, yes. I mean, still, there are uncertainties in the market and then in respect to the projects and how they are proceeding. That's why we've chosen not yet to give the guidance regarding the profitability for the year.

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

Yes. And then we have for the projects, the tenders, the expected revenues, we have a rigorous forecasting process in place that we run every quarter. We just finished that one in July, which gives us confidence on the guidance. But then at the same time, like we have said, the nature of the projects is such that predicting their profitability on a detailed level is actually quite challenging. And now we saw the impact on the second quarter. Actually, that same impact is what we, and that's what we are naturally working on to reduce the project costs that will have the similar impact, but to other directions. So there is a fair amount of uncertainties, ups and downs that still are in the profitability and not giving guidance there.

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

But this is a great question. And that's why we also put this NextLeap program into place to better get the, let's say, the insight and also to get a grip of the local activities and then being able to make the predictions then going forward.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Okay. Before I ask the next one, I just want to remind our viewers that you can still keep posting questions. So please do that. Actually, regarding, let's get back to the NEOM question earlier because there was just a new question now. Still, Antti wanting to clarify, should we expect a bigger lump of revenues from NEOM contract from equipment deliveries during first quarters of the contract? So that's just elaborating.

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

The project is now in the mobilization phase. And this is something that we'll come back to a little bit later. We expect that we will be up, I mean, operative then in the, let's say, end of Q3, beginning of Q4. And that's really the focus at the moment. Do you want to add something on that?

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

Yeah, like said, the revenue from NEOM project comes hand in hand with the services provided. And yes, there is a kind of a ramp-up of the services. So they are not in full force from the very beginning. Hence, there is a development of the revenue as well there. But then that will be reasonably stable during the lifetime of the project because that is directly dependent on the services that we provide there. Okay. Maybe I think it's still good to add that without talking about absolute numbers, the NEOM project is not something that would impact, for example, the guidance for this year.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Okay. Thank you. Then let's stick to the more significant projects because there are some questions about Kuwait as well. So maybe I'll start with Aapeli's question. So could you elaborate more about the update made to the Kuwait project's cost estimate? So what was behind this? And also, should this be a one-time case, or should we expect more updates in the future since there could be a clear, or these could have a clear effect on profitability, for instance?

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

So briefly, so Kuwait project revenue is recognized based on this percentage of completion principle, and then that's measured by the deliverables that have happened during the project. And then when you have a percentage of completion, the percentage is always calculated from the total number. And when you change that total number, even slightly, that will have impact to the cumulative revenue.

Yes, we have a special focus and increasing understanding about especially the Kuwait project cost build-up and then also the forecast. That's actually something where the management has spent a lot of time because this is so important to understand it. Like I already said, our goal is actually to reduce that total, but it's work to be done and nothing that I can talk about. It is a very important factor, and it is continuously in the focus. Now we have selected an approach where we want to be rather agile in updating that total cost when we know more.

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

Yeah, I think it's very important to point out also that during the, let's say, the progress of the project, that we also see the impact of different components in this total process and how to work with them. So now we have a more stable understanding on what is going on throughout the whole project. And I think that that is a stable basis that now has been generated for going forward.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Yeah, I think actually we could; you already touched upon this now in those comments. Aapeli also had a question: are there some lessons learned from the first Saudi Arabia project? So for instance, working capital can be used in next projects or something. Is there something you want to add to the previous comments already about the learnings in Saudi Arabia so far?

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

I think that in all these major projects, the learnings that we've generated in them, this is part of the work that we are doing now to ensure that we can improve certain parts of the projects to have better visibility and also to ensure that the, let's say, the payment schedules are being followed and that we have a diligent follow-up on that locally in these different cultures. That has a major impact. And also that, let's say, constant communication between the projects and getting the learnings in place is going to be very critical for us. And every project that we are putting in place now has certain guidance that are based on the learnings from the previous ones. And here we are clearly improving compared to earlier stages.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Going forward also, I think this was one from Antti. So, thinking about working capital, what would we say consider as a target level for working capital, net working capital?

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

Oh, that's a good question. I should actually answer that negative would be the target because that's what you always should shoot for. But at the moment, seriously, our goal is to release the first funds that are tied up in those big projects. Then I think longer term we need to look for an aspirational target level or type of guidance for that number. But as of now, we don't have it. But seriously, I think almost all the companies should have a target of negative net working capital.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

That I think we can agree on. I have two more questions here waiting. Still time if you want to post more questions. This is a more detailed one from Antti regarding the update on the Kuwait project. So we said in the CEO statement and the financial segment of the report that excluding the update, adjusted EBIT would have been at the comparison period's level in this year's second quarter. Could you confirm that the negative impact from the update was EUR 2.3 million in Q2 and the EBIT margin would have been 13.6%? But this is, I just need to check the question.

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

Just to repeat, so the impact was EUR 1.9 million and it impacted both the revenue and the profitability.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Y eah. Yeah. Okay. If Antti asked that question wrongly, then please state it again, but that was what was written. So then finally, there's one more question, and this is about Kilpilahti. Maybe a more long-term question. So how is it possible to build a 100-ton chemical recycling capacity in just two years? So that is maybe for Johan. Yeah, yeah. At the moment, that's the final question we have.

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

That's a good question. I mean, still the plan for us is now to make sure that we get this concept plant in place and that will then have a capacity of 30,000-40,000 tonnes and then two additional plants that will be initiated when this is in place. That's according to our strategy that we have in place now, this planning for this planning period. That is still our target that we are pushing towards. Let me just clarify two additional lines. Not plans. For the strategy period to get up to 100,000 tonnes, then it's two additional plants. Okay.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Thank you. Two more questions came up. So any new ESG initiatives planned in the foreseeable future?

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

We are pushing forward regarding the ESG. It's an integral part of our strategy, business strategy. It's not something separate. It's a part of this, and that's something that we are trying to tie into our operations across the globe. So that is, it's going to be one part of our way of working, and I don't see that as an issue going forward.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

And then a question on M&A. Any M&A on agenda for this year?

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

We will come back to that when that kind of an issue will be on the agenda. Otherwise, we will stay to what we've talked about earlier.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Okay. Still on the next two quarters, question from Emma. Have you identified any new significant business risks that could possibly impact Q3 and Q4 in the results?

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

That's a good comment. As of now, this is what we now talked about, and let's say the business risks have not changed compared to what we've talked about earlier.

They remain on the agenda and something that we are tackling. But anything new that would be on the horizon, I think that is not actual at the moment.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

And then currently the final question. So are you happy with the current capital structure, or could we expect any significant changes in capital structure during the rest of 2024?

Vesa Leino
Interim CFO, Lamor

Well, capital structure, including the net working capital. So no, we are not happy with that. So we are working on to get that improved.

Tapio Pesola
Head of Investor Relations, Lamor

Yes, I think that was clearly stated. At this moment, I think we have answered all the questions, and there are no more questions at this time. And still no. So I think that concludes our webinar this time. Thank you. We look forward to talking to you again with our Q3 results. And thank you for joining us today.

Johan Grön
CEO, Lamor

Thank you. Thank you.

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