Good afternoon, and welcome to LG Electronics Quarterly Earnings Conference Call. This conference call will begin with a presentation on the earnings results followed by a Q and A session. Simultaneous English translation will be provided for the presentation followed by consecutive interpretation for the Q and A. Now I'd like to turn the call over to the first speaker. Good afternoon.
My name is Won Jae Park from Investor Relations. Thank you for joining our earnings call for the second quarter of twenty twenty five. With me are CFO and EVP of LG Electronics, Jangtaek Kim SVP of HS Company, Lee Won Kim SVP of MS Company, Sang Ho Park VP of Versus Company, Chu Yong Kim VP of ES Company, Dong Un Shin VP of Corporate Business Management, Joon Hyun Park VP of Accounting, Hong Soo Lee VP of Finance, Young Kyung Kim and Head of ESG Strategy, Sung Min Hong. Today's presentation will proceed as follows. Our CFO will review begin by presenting our second quarter results and outlook for the third quarter of twenty twenty five, including our strategic direction for qualitative growth.
Then I'll present the key financial highlights of the second quarter. Following that, each business will present its individual results and outlook. Finally, we will conclude with an overview of our ESG activities and achievements. Please note that all statements we make today regarding the financial results of the second quarter are subject to change in accordance with external review. Actual results may differ from today's outlook and forward looking statements due to market uncertainties and strategic changes.
Now let us begin with the performance of the 2025 and the outlook for the third quarter. Good afternoon. I'm Jung Taek Kim, CFO of LG Electronics. Our consolidated Q2 financial results showed KRW20.74 trillion in sales and KRW639.4 billion in operating profit. Q2 revenue declined year over year due to headwinds, including U.
S. Tariff policy changes and geopolitical risks in The Middle East, which led to a delay in consumer sentiment recovery. Despite these challenges, we are laying the foundation for qualitative growth, particularly within our subscription services, online direct sales and B2B segments. Operating profit declined year over year due to the increasing pressure of tariff related cost, stagnant market demand for TVs and intensified competition. On the other hand, we maintained last year's profitability for some businesses, while achieving year over year improvement for others through enhanced operational efficiency.
U. S. Tariff policies, weakening consumer sentiment, geopolitical risks and ongoing uncertainties will likely continue into Q3. Strong competition, higher marketing expenses and price hikes due to derivative tariff are pressuring the business. To address these challenge, we will mitigate the impact of escalating U.
S. Tariff by employing various strategies, including optimizing production across our global network. Additionally, we will strengthen our premium market position through region and segment specific strategies while expanding into the mass market to secure sales growth momentum. We will continue pursuing qualitative growth by focusing on high growth areas within B2B, such as automotive electronics and HVAC as well as on subscriptions and webOS to boost profitability. Mounting costs due to competition will be mitigated by improving our cost structure and operational efficiency to maintain stable profitability.
I will now discuss the progress and plans for qualitative growth. LGE is achieving meaningful results in establishing the foundation for qualitative growth, central to our business portfolio transformation. We expanded our B2B segment, including automotive electronics, HVAC, smart factory and component solutions. We also maintained solid growth in D2C such as subscriptions and online direct sales. Furthermore, we are accelerating the growth of non hardware businesses, including the WebOS platform, specialized care and HVAC maintenance.
Our success is built on strong long term partnerships with B2B clients and direct relationships cultivated through subscription services and online direct sales. This foundation provides a distinctive competitive advantage in a dynamic market, ensuring greater stability and profitability. Going forward, we will accelerate our transition to a customer centric model by offering tailored solutions to foster customer loyalty and strengthen retention. Finally, we remain committed to enhancing corporate value through our shareholder return program. Yesterday, we announced the record date and amount of our interim dividend as well as the planned cancellation of treasury stock at the end of this month.
We are dedicated to enhancing value for both the company and our shareholders. Thank you. I'll now briefly review the Q2 twenty twenty five performance of the enterprise wide operations in each business. Our consolidated financial results for Q2 are KRW20.73 trillion in sales and KRW639.4 billion in operating profit. HS recorded KRW6.59 trillion in sales and KRW439.9 billion in operating profit.
MS recorded KRW4.39 trillion in sales and KRW191.7 billion in operating loss. VUS recorded KRW2.84 trillion in sales and KRW 126,200,000,000.0 in operating profit. Lastly, ES recorded KRW 2,640,000,000,000.00 in sales and KRW 250,500,000,000.0 in operating profit. Since the Q1 twenty twenty five earnings release, we have highlighted the performance of our B2B and subscription businesses. These are key drivers of qualitative growth aligned with our portfolio transition initiative.
In Q2, despite a slight quarter over quarter sales decline in commercial displays and chillers, our B2B segment sustained year over year sales growth. This growth was driven by Versus sales expansion supported by a healthy order backlog and financial improvements within ES system AC business. The B2B segment contribution to overall sales also increased both quarter over quarter and year over year. Subscription services in Korea maintained strong sales growth of nearly 30% year over year, driven by differentiated care services. Our overseas subscription business also achieved both quarter over quarter and year over year sales growth fueled by vigorous subscriber acquisition and portfolio expansion.
Despite being in its early stages, the contribution of overseas subscriptions to total subscription sales also increased year over year as we accelerated business expansion. We will continue developing our business portfolio, including B2B and subscription services to improve overall business performance. Moving on to the income statement and cash flow for Q2. Reflecting financial income and expense, equity method gain and loss, other nonoperating income and expense, corporate income tax and income and loss from discontinued operation, net income for Q2 was KRW609.7 billion. As a result, first half net income attributable to controlling interest reached KRW1.40 trillion, up 36% year on year.
Now let's look at cash flow. Cash flow from operating activities was KRW 1,540,000,000,000.00 and cash flow from investing activities was KRW185.7 billion, resulting in net cash flow of KRW1.51 trillion. When reflecting cash flow from financial activities of negative KRW921.4 billion, Cash balance at the end of Q2 came to stand at KRW7.57 trillion, a KRW590.7 billion increase from the previous quarter. Key financial position and indicators for Q2 twenty twenty five are as follows. At the end of Q2, assets stand at KRW62.4 trillion, liabilities at KRW36.5 trillion and equity at KRW25.9 trillion.
In terms of leverage ratios, liability to equity, debt to equity and net debt to equity all decreased quarter over quarter, reflecting a healthy financial condition. Now we will hear from each business company regarding its Q2 results and Q3 outlook, beginning with HS Company. Here are the Q2 results for the HS business. Volatile U. S.
Trade policies and geopolitical risks in The Middle East have delayed consumer sentiment recovery. Despite these headwinds, we achieved year over year sales growth. This growth is driven by our two track strategy targeting both premium and volume segments, coupled with the expansion of our online direct sales and subscription services. Despite rising tariffs and freight costs, we maintained operating profit at a level comparable to the previous year. This was achieved through sales growth, manufacturing cost improvements, including production, optimization and efficient marketing spend.
Looking ahead to the third quarter, we anticipate a continued delay in the global appliance market recovery driven by ongoing uncertainty in U. S. Trade negotiations and monetary policies in developed markets. This environment will likely increase market competition. In response, we will launch region specific models, further strengthen our two track strategy to address market uncertainties and continue expanding our online direct sales and subscription services to maintain sales momentum.
To mitigate the impact of U. S. Tariff, we will work with distributors on price adjustment, optimize production locations for cost efficiency and streamline logistics. Our goal is to achieve operating profit at or above last year's levels. Let's turn to our outlook for the global appliance market in 2025.
We update this forecast twice a year in the first and second halves. By sharing our views, we aim to share our perspective on global demand trends and our corresponding strategies. Please note that this outlook focuses on combined market demand for refrigerators and washing machines, not our appliance revenue, which is influenced by factors such as regional market share and competition. Actual market conditions may differ from this outlook due to various factors such as macroeconomic conditions. Forecasting appliance demand and its recovery trajectory is particularly challenging now given the uncertainty surrounding U.
S. Tariff policies and the rapidly evolving geopolitical landscape. In advanced markets, slowing housing market recovery and tariff related price increases are expected to depress North American demand. A gradual recovery is expected in Europe, assuming the economy rebounds from its trough. Geopolitical factors will likely suppress demand in The Middle East and Africa this year.
While Asia and India are projected to experience a turnaround and modest growth. Given ongoing uncertainties, we are closely monitoring market developments in the second half, including supply chain fluctuations, inflation and interest rates. We are also working with sales channels to ensure timely demand sensing. Furthermore, our flexible global production network will help us maintain strong financial performance despite market challenges. Let's now turn to the Q2 results for our Media Solution business.
Sales declined in Q2 compared to both the previous quarter and the same period last year due to market uncertainties, which dampened consumer sentiment, stagnated hardware demand and intensified competition. Operating profit deteriorated and was negative both quarter over quarter and year over year due to lower sales and increased competitive pressures. Our outlook for the third quarter is as follows. Improvements in consumer sentiment and hardware demand are unlikely given persistent geo economic uncertainties. Furthermore, competition is anticipated to heat up as Chinese brands facing weakening domestic demand aggressively expand into overseas markets.
To address these challenges, we will focus on enhancing operational efficiency, strengthening the growth momentum of the WebOS platform and pursuing our global sales strategy to achieve qualitative growth. I will now review the Q2 results of We As Company. Sales grew both quarter over quarter and year over year driven by increased orders from European OEMs and a stable order backlog. Operating profit also improved in both periods, thanks to higher sales and ongoing cost optimization efforts. Regarding our Q3 outlook, global demand is expected to decline quarter over quarter due to uncertainties surrounding U.
S. Policies on EV subsidy and tariff risks. While acknowledging potential market headwinds, we will focus on strengthening OEM partnerships and optimizing operating expenses to minimize any negative effects on sales and maintain solid profitability. Let me outline the Q2 results of ES Company. Domestic sales maintained strong growth as we vigorously pursued seasonal demand for residential ACs and dehumidifiers and expanded subscription and online direct sales.
On the other hand, we experienced limited growth in overseas sales year over year due to uncertainties stemming from U. S. Tariff policies. While domestic sales increased and certain overseas markets showed continued growth, operating profit dipped slightly year over year. This decline was primarily due to increased material and fixed cost.
Looking ahead to the third quarter. In the Korean market, we anticipate rising B2C demand for ACs fueled by a shorter rainy season and an early heat wave. The new government's pro consumption policies are also expected to provide a boost. However, we project continued softening in B2B demand due to ongoing stagnation in the construction industry. In overseas market, we anticipate continued market uncertainty and potential demand contraction due to fluctuating tariff policies.
To address these challenges, in Korea, we will actively target the high efficiency AC replacement market, capitalizing on consumer demand for reduced energy cost. Will also increase subscription sales by pursuing opportunities like government support for small business owners. In overseas markets, we will closely monitor U. S. Tariff policy developments while further optimizing our products and network, launching new models and expanding into new sales channels to drive growth.
Finally, turning to our ESG activities and achievements. LGE is continuously pursuing initiatives for carbon reduction in resource circulation. We are expanding our transition to renewable energy by implementing PPAs across 14 global production sites, including new solar projects at our plants in Hai Phong, Vietnam and Changwon, Korea. Since 2022, we have partnered with the Ministry of Environment and E Circular Governance on Better Return, a public research circulation campaign resulting in the collection of 108.3 tons of used batteries to date. Our eco friendly products and technologies continue to gain recognition. Our OLED TVs have received Carbon Trust carbon footprint certification for five consecutive years. We are also piloting a low carbon mineral wash project for water positive, partnering with the Korea Water Cluster and the Korea Water Forum to measure and verify water and energy savings when using detergent containing mineral wash.
We strive to be a trusted partner for the market and our customers. In June, we published our nineteenth sustainability report outlining our progress and goals towards a better life for all. Our U. S. Subsidiary earned its second consecutive Sustainability Brand Leader Award in the HVAC and Appliance categories from Green Builder Media, a leading North American green building publication.
This highlights the trust we've built with homebuilders and consumers for our innovative eco friendly solutions. As a smart life solution company, we remain committed to competitive and sustainable business practices. This brings us to the end of LG Electronics' second quarter earnings release and the third quarter outlook for 2025. We will now take questions. Operator, please commence with the Q and A session.
The first question will be provided by Dongwon Kim from KB Securities.
Thank you for taking my question. My first question is for the HS division and the second question is for the MS division. My question for the HS division is how significant is the impact of U. S. Tariff policies including steel tariffs on LGE's second quarter performance?
How will the levies affect LGE's business performance and demand fluctuations in the second half of the year? If there are plans for price adjustments, to what extent will the prices be adjusted in response to increased costs? Could you elaborate on the price adjustment plans or status? Are there any new strategies being pursued beyond existing initiatives such as production site optimization? If so, could you please share the details?
And my second question is on MS company. I would like to ask the outlook of this year's revenue and profitability. Along with this, I see some rising LCD panel prices and TV set price reductions. Is there any possibility of MS business turning to an annual operating loss? And also be appreciated if you can share your mid to long term profitability improvement plans including this year.
To answer your first question for the HS division, according to the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers, home appliance shipments in The U. S. In the first half of the year maintained similar levels compared to the previous year. Some consumers have been rushing to make purchases before the tariffs take effect. In the first half of twenty twenty five, we achieved approximately 3% growth year over year higher than the market demand with new product launches and efficient sales operations continuing to strengthen our market presence.
Nonetheless, a rise in product costs driven by the 50% tariff on steel and reciprocal tariffs that are set to be applied in the latter half of the year could translate into greater uncertainties for the market price. Additionally, shifts in the U. S. Government's trade policies and weakening consumer sentiment cast doubt on the demand outlook for home appliances. The effects of U.
S. Tariffs began to be felt in the second quarter, but we were able to minimize the impact through preemptive inventory management and operations and cost cutting efforts. While the tariffs are expected to have a more pronounced impact in the latter half of the year, we intend to promptly navigate these challenges through preemptive response scenarios such as optimizing production sites and cutting costs. Price adjustments will be made after carefully considering multiple factors including shifts in U. S.
Tariffs and the competitive landscape and having discussions with distributors. Regarding production site optimization, we will maintain our current supply system under universal tariffs, but also operate a product supply center throughout The U. S. To ensure competitive landed costs. For washing machines, we plan to add a production site in Mexico's Mexicali in September to flexibly respond to the tariffs.
After countries reach tariff deals and if reciprocal tariffs are imposed from August 1, we plan to increase the supply from our U. S. And Mexico production plants.
Let me answer your question about MS. Due to dampened consumer sentiment stemming from geopolitical risks and intensified competition, the business environment is expected to remain challenging throughout the year. At this point, it may be premature to forecast the full year results, including the performance during the anticipated peak season in the second half. Therefore, I approach discussing potential improvements cautiously. However, we are actively implementing various initiatives aimed at enhancing profitability in order to see an overall improvement of financial performance of MS from the first half to the second half of the year.
And about your question about profitability improvement plans. From a mid to long term perspective, we will continuously improve our profitability not only by launching market leading products that demonstrate technological leadership, but also by enhancing operational efficiency, including strengthening cost competitiveness along with maximizing integrated synergy within MS, due to synergy creation among TV, IT, ID business and value chain optimization and also by expanding and strengthening the webOS ecosystem in order to build capabilities as a media and entertainment solutions provider. Next question please.
The following question will be presented by SK Kim from Daiwa Securities. Please go ahead with your question.
Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. I have two questions, one for the Versus division and the other for the company. My question for the Versus division is, what are the current operational status and future plans for the production plants in Mexico and Hungary? What are the expected quarterly sales from these plants?
And my second question on corporate wide operations. Considering the recent favorable progress such as the early recovery of loans to LG Display, could you share more about the current status on your financial structure and the future plans together?
First, let me answer your question on the Versus division. LG Magna has established local production sites across various regions including Korea, China, Mexico and Hungary and is equipped with an operation system that can flexibly respond to fluctuations in our customers' PSI. LG Magna's Mexico plant started mass production September 2023. As of the first quarter of twenty twenty five, the Mexico plant contributed to approximately mid-thirty percent of LG Magna's total sales. This upward trend will continue with the sales percentage expected to reach a low 40% range by the fourth quarter of twenty twenty five.
LG Magna's Hungary plant was established to reflect the localization needs of major European OEMs. The plant was completed as scheduled in December 2024 and full scale production is expected to begin in mid-twenty twenty six.
Your question on corporate wide operations will be covered by Finance division. As you just covered, during the first half of the year, we saw improvements in our financial structure evidenced by a decrease in our debt to equity ratio and liability to equity ratio as a result of improved equity method gain and loss, early collection of loans from sister company and efforts to reduce loans payable. We will continue to expand efforts such as strengthening working capital management in the second half of the year, so that we can maintain the stable and sound financial structure. Next question please.
The following question will be presented by Jihan Huang from NH Investment and Securities.
The first question for the ES division is, could you provide an overview of the current sales and order status of the chiller business for data centers including its contribution to the total ES division sales? And the second question is, if possible, could you share the progress on the discussions made with big tech companies as well as business opportunities and domestic data center projects?
My second question is on corporate wide operations. I understand that you are trying to embed more of the IAI to robots and edge AI and so on. Can you tell us more about your direction in the mid to long term? And also I will it will be appreciated if you can tell us more about the scale of investment.
First to answer your questions on the ES division, discussions are progressing with various partners in different regions regarding our data center business and the performance of orders received has tripled year over year showing rapid growth. While we cannot provide extensive details, we are currently advancing our cooling solutions to better meet the wide ranging needs of our customers and have established a regular council with one of the global big tech firms engaging in discussions to collaborate on a data center project. The discussions involve detailed specifications such as air cooling chillers, one of the highly efficient data center cooling solutions and CDUs, a key component in chip cooling technology. While domestic data centers are securing various business opportunities, we ask for your understanding as we are unable to disclose the details of ongoing collaborations at this time.
Your question about AI will be covered by IR division. And I may cover a wide scope of AI as it's not a common opportunity for us to talk about our AIs. Well, in LG Electronics, we define AI in two ways, AI for company and AI for customer. Firstly, in the AI for company domain, we are actively developing various solutions targeting to achieve over 30% AI driven efficiency gains within the next three years. In the AI for customer domain, we're launching various new AI devices alongside ThinQ ON, pursuing diverse experimental initiatives and continuously enhancing the AI capabilities of our core appliances.
For example, we are leading the market by delivering personalized customer experiences through the introduction of air conditioners equipped with AI spatial sensing technology and LLM based voice control. LG Electronics is also deeply committed to protecting consumer privacy in our application of AI technologies. Most sensing and contextual understanding relies on on device AI. For tasks requiring external information travel and large scale inference, we utilize a hybrid approach that incorporates cloud computing. Regarding the emerging field of humanoid robots, we see significant potential and opportunities in the home robotic sector. A key benefit of home robots lies in facilitating seamless interaction between appliances and users. And as we have strengths in this area, we believe that we can leverage our extensive experience and expertise to tightly integrate our appliances with robotic platforms. We're also securing business opportunities in AI related downstream industries.
In the data center cooling solution sector, where we already possess industry leading technology and product competitiveness with our air cooled chiller solutions, we have developed a high efficiency liquid cooling solution specifically designed for AI data centers
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In addition to this, we're actively investing in R and D, operations and infrastructure related to AI and robotics. We're strengthening our capabilities through a various approach encompassing encompassing in house development, open innovation and venture investments. In robotics specifically, we're accelerating the growth of our commercial robotics business through our acquisition of Bairo Robotics. Furthermore, we plan to bolster our technological and business capabilities in industrial robotics by integrating this with our smart factory initiatives within our Production Engineering Research Institute or PRI. Next question please.
The following question will be presented by Sun Tzu Yang from Merit Securities. Please go ahead with your question.
Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. I have two questions, one for the HS division and the other for the ES division. My first question for the HS division is, what are the projections for logistics costs, marketing expenses, etcetera in the second half of twenty twenty five? Against this backdrop, what are the sales and operating profit projections for 2025?
My second question for the ES division is, how is the shifting trend towards liquid immersion cooling and data center cooling solutions expected to impact the chiller business? Could you share the progress development of new cooling solutions such as liquid immersion cooling and future plans? First, let me answer your question for the HS division. For logistics costs, we expect to see improvements in the 2025 compared to both the first half of the year and the previous year.
This is driven by the recent finalization of the global Seafright bidding contract for volumes to be shipped in the latter half of the year coupled with the overall downward trend in Seafright rates from July. We are also strategically mixing new carriers and existing carriers to further enhance our cost competitiveness. Additionally, we are mitigating the impact of U. S. Tariffs by shipping sales volume in advance and increasing the level of regional production.
For marketing expenses, while the second half of the year presents various business dynamics and external variables, we plan to maintain and strengthen our market position through optimizing resources. This will be achieved by focusing on customer communication and strategic marketing supported by our unique core technologies, differentiated premium products with AI features and regionally tailored products. The business environment in 2025 continues to be riddled with numerous challenges including shifts in U. S. Tariff policies and weakened global consumer sentiment.
Regardless, LGE will continue to boost sales with the two track strategy tailored to each market and expansion of online and subscription businesses. Furthermore, we project the operating profit to improve year over year with strengthened efforts to minimize the impact of U. S. Tariffs and optimization of overhead expenses including logistics and marketing costs. Now let me answer your question for the ES division.
LGE's chiller business is rapidly expanding its market presence and continues to have robust orders and strong sales fueled by demand for high efficiency cooling solutions in various sectors such as large buildings, nuclear power plants and data centers. We are recognized as industry leaders offering best in class products and expertise for general internet data centers. As we expect to see increased demand in the data center market, we have developed both air cooling chillers and liquid cooled chip cooling solutions with commercialization targeted at the end of the year. In the future, immersion cooling is expected to be widely adopted in AI data centers as the technology boasts high cooling efficiency. In light of this, we are actively developing immersion cooling technology, collaborating with leading companies in the field to prepare for the shifting technological demands of the market. Next question please.
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This brings us to the end of LG Electronics earnings release conference call for the second quarter of twenty twenty five. For further questions, please contact the IR team. Thank