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Oct 28, 2026, 3:30 PM KST
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Earnings Call: Q3 2026

Oct 23, 2026

Summary

9M net income reached a record KRW 3.6243 trillion, up 5.6% YoY, as core earnings grew 14.2%. Q3 shareholder returns advanced, while Q4 NIM recovery and stronger NPL coverage are expected.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Greetings, everyone. I am G.H. Park, Head of IR at Hana Financial Group. I express my deepest gratitude to all market participants who are participating in today's business results presentation, despite your busy schedules. We will now begin our 2026 Q3 business results presentation. I would now like to introduce executives from our group and major subsidiaries who are here with us for today's business results presentation. Group CFO, Jong-Moo Park, is here with us. Group CRO, Jae-Shin Kang, is here with us today. Group CSO, Ho-Sik Nam, is also here with us. Next, from Hana Bank, Hana Bank CFO, Young-Seok Jeong, is here with us. Hana Bank CRO, Chang-Wook Pae, is here with us today. Last but not least, Hana Securities CFO, Dong-Sik Kim, is here with us. Today, we will first have a business results presentation and then engage in a Q&A session.

Please note that the forward-looking statements regarding the results discussed today may differ materially from actual business results, depending on changes in the macroeconomic and market conditions. I would now invite Group CFO, Jong-Moo Park, to walk us through 2026 Q3 business results.

Jong-Moo Park
Group CFO, Hana Financial Group

Greetings, everyone. I am Hana Financial Group CFO, Jong-Moo Park. I express my deepest gratitude to all of our stakeholders, including shareholders, investors, and analysts, for taking time out of your busy schedules to join us today for Hana Financial Group's earnings presentation. I will now cover our 2026 Q3 group business results. First, these are our group business results' main highlights. Please refer to page one of the materials. Hana Financial Group's 2026 Q3 net income posted KRW 1 trillion 221.4 billion, a 2.4% quarter-over-quarter increase. Although fee income decreased quarter-over-quarter due to subdued stock market trading activity, the absence of performance-related compensation and one-off provisioning costs led to a 5.9% quarter-over-quarter decline of G&A expenses and 14.7% quarter-over-quarter decline of provisioning expenses, which enabled quarter-over-quarter net income improvement.

As a result, Hana Financial Group has been recording around KRW 1.2 trillion of quarterly net income for three consecutive quarters, starting from Q1 of this year. Despite the presence of one-off factors in each quarter, the group maintained a stable level of earnings, which we believe demonstrates an improvement in its underlying earnings-generating capacity. Next, group's 2026 Q3 cumulative net income posted KRW 3 trillion 624.3 billion, a 5.6% increase year-over-year, and achieved an all-time high on a Q3 cumulative basis. The main factor behind the performance improvement was group's core earnings. Group's core earnings, a sum of group's Q3 cumulative interest income, and fee income posted KRW 9 trillion 626 billion, an increase 14.2% year-over-year.

Out of this, group's interest income increased 10.4% year-over-year, and group's fee income increased 29.8% year-over-year and showed a steep growth trend. Accordingly, the proportion of fee income in group's core earnings increased 2.7 percentage points from 19.6% in the same period from the previous year to 22.3%. Driven by solid growth in key fee income categories, including not only asset management related fees, but also credit card fees and underwriting and M&A advisory fees, the group continued to make progress in diversifying its revenue streams. And Q3 cumulative group ROE posted 10.6% and maintained the previous year's level. Next, Q3 end group CET1 ratio is expected to stand at 13.45%, an 18 basis points increase quarter-over-quarter.

While continuing to pursue our group strategy centering on RoRWA, the group saw a decline in risk-weighted assets, driven by the appreciation of the Korean won and the rationalization of operational risk loss recognition. As a result, the group's CET1 ratio improves quarter-over-quarter. Next, I will cover shareholder return. At today's BOD meeting, KRW 250 billion of share buyback and cancellation and KRW 1,165 per share of Q3 cash dividend was approved. 2026 total cumulative share buyback and cancellation amount, including KRW 250 billion, which was approved today, is at a KRW 950 billion level, a 26% increase year-over-year, and is at a record high level. In addition, dividend per share this year consistently increased each quarter, so after year-end dividend payout, this year's annual cash dividend amount is expected to increase more than 10% year-over-year.

In addition, from 2026 year-end dividend, which will be paid out early next year, we will implement tax-exemption dividends so that retail investors will actually receive higher post-tax dividend yields. Hana Financial Group's active shareholder return policy is a result of the firm will of the BOD and management to improve our corporate value. Going forward, based on solid fundamentals and effective shareholder return strategy, we will do our best to continuously improve our corporate value. Next, I will cover the details of our group's management performance. Please refer to page four. Group's Q3 interest income posted KRW 2 trillion 674.9 billion, a 16.2% increase quarter-over-quarter. This can be explained by the increase following the variable insurance accounting effect from Hana Life. Excluding this, group's Q3 interest income maintained the previous quarter's level and grew around 9.3% year-over-year.

Group's Q3 cumulative interest income posted KRW 7 trillion 483.2 billion, an increase 10.4% year-over-year. Out of this, Hana Bank's Q3 cumulative interest income posted KRW 6 trillion 777.3 billion, and on the back of asset base expansion through growth focused on profitability, it grew 14.1% year-over-year and led the improvement trend of group's interest income. Next, looking at NIM. Hana Bank's Q3 NIM posted 1.57%, a 4 basis points decline quarter-over-quarter. The increase was mainly attributable to higher funding costs, resulting from a decline in the proportion of low-cost core deposits, and this reflected a seasonal decrease in core deposits from public institutions due to fiscal spending in the second half of the year, as well as a shift of corporate funds into time deposits amid rising benchmark interest rates.

Group's Q3 NIM posted 1.83%, and along with the bank NIM decline that I aforementioned, with the card NIM decrease effect following funding cost increase, it went down 5 basis points quarter-over-quarter. Hana Bank's Q3 Korean won denominated loan increased 1.7% on a quarter-over-quarter basis. Household loan increased 1.0% versus end of Q2, especially around group loans and loans for new apartment final payments. Corporate loans increased 2.3% versus end of Q2, reflecting liquidity and funding demand support to large corporations, as well as SMEs, which is in line with our RoRWA-focused loan growth policy. Next, page five looks at our group's non-interest income. Group's Q3 fee income was KRW 655.4 billion, which is a 20% quarter-over-quarter decline.

This decrease is mainly attributed to less asset management fees, including brokerage fee, which is linked to trading volume and affected by the less stock market activity versus Q2. That said, on a year-over-year basis, Q3 fee income increased 15% and remains above the solid pace of KRW 600 billion per quarter. Year-to-date Q3 group fee income was KRW 2 trillion 142.8 billion, which is 29.8% increase year-over-year, thanks to asset management-related fee growth. Year-to-date Q3 brokerage fee is KRW 327.7 billion, which is year-over-year 142.2% increase. Trust fee income was KRW 341.6 billion, which is a 37.1% increase. Wrap account fee income was KRW 90.1 billion, which is a significant increase versus KRW 17 billion of last year.

Credit card income was KRW 306.4 billion, which is a 7.3% growth year-over-year with increased credit card usage volume. M&A and advisory fee was KRW 153.5 billion, which is a 55.6% year-over-year growth, and demonstrating the growing performance of the group's IB business. Q3 group disposition and valuation gain was KRW 291.5 billion, which is a 55.6% decrease quarter-over-quarter, mainly reflecting the Hana Life's variable insurance-related account reclassification, which on the disposition and valuation gain side, had a decreasing effect. Group's year-to-date Q3 disposition and valuation gain is KRW 951.6 billion, decreasing 15% year-over-year due to a drop in bond-related gains under rising market rates.

Please now turn to page six, which looks at group G&A expenses. Group's Q3 G&A was KRW 1. 2144 trillion, which is a 5.9% decrease from the previous quarter, which had increased labor costs tied to Hana Bank and Hana Securities bonus payouts in Q2. Q3 year-to-date group G&A was KRW 3 trillion 703. 4 billion, which is an 8.5% increase year-over-year, but Q3 year-to-date C/I ratio is at 38.4%, which is a 0.4 percentage point improvement on a year-over-year basis . Despite the increase in education tax by KRW 90.6 billion year-over-year due to change in tax regulations starting from this year, the group's cost efficiency has been under stable control through stronger group-wide cost control efforts.

Next, page seven looks at the group asset quality. Group's Q3 provisioning expense was KRW 356.2 billion, which is a 17.4% decrease quarter-over-quarter. Q3 year-to-date provisioning expense was KRW 1 trillion 19.2 trillion, which is a 10.4% increase on a year-over-year basis. This increase is mainly explained by the Chungon Group corporate rehabilitation related KRW 74.9 billion of one-off provision expenses accrued in Q2. Group's Q3 year-to-date credit cost ratio is at 0.30%, stable, and within our original business plan.

Now, if you turn to page eight, the group's NPL ratio as of end of Q3 was at 0.93%, similar to last quarter. Our NPL coverage ratio as of end of Q3 was 90.2%, which is a 3.8% improvement quarter-over-quarter, thanks to less new NPL formation. Group's delinquency ratio was at 0.70%, which is up 11 basis points quarter-over-quarter. This is mainly due to exposure to that previously mentioned large corporate, newly being classified as delinquency starting from this quarter. Without this factor, delinquencies would be 0.63%, which is a 4 basis points increase on a quarter-over-quarter basis. With higher rates continuing, managing asset quality is becoming a more important key focus for us.

We will emphasize proactive management of various risk factors and secure sufficient loss absorption buffers to be well-prepared against both internal and external uncertainties. The rest of the deck has been prepared for your reference. This completes my presentation on the Hana Financial Group's Q3 results. Thank you very much.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Thank you. Now we will start the Q&A session. If I briefly explain how to ask for a question opportunity. If you have a question, please use the hand button on the center bottom of the screen. If you have a question in English, your English question will be consecutively translated into Korean before answering. We will wait for questions. The first question has come up. We have from Korea Investment Securities, Tae-Jun Jeong. Hello, sir?

Tae-Jun Jeong
Analyst, Korea Investment Securities

Yes. I am Tae-Jun Jeong from Korea Investment. Thank you very much for this opportunity. I have two questions. Looking at your net interest margin, it seems that the growth has been a little bit subdued. Can you expect a margin reversal from Q4, and can you give us your take on what the level will be? Secondly is about the coverage ratio and asset quality. Looking at your NPL coverage ratio, it seems that compared to the past quarter, it has improved, but still, it is a bit shy of 100% or so. Can you tell us about the coverage ratio, how much improvement you expect, and what is the expected credit cost ratio that you expect going forward?

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Thank you very much for your questions, and we will soon answer them.

Young-Seok Jeong
CFO, Hana Bank

I am the CFO of Hana Bank, Young-Seok Jeong. For your first question about your Q4 NIM outlook, let me answer. In Q3, the NIM, compared to Q2, went down 4 basis points, and in July and August, we had the rate hike. With this rate hike by BOK, it has direct and indirect impact on the bank's profitability. Regarding what is directly impacted in our funding, you can see MMDA or our short-term borrowing, which will be affected directly in many cases. For indirect effect, you can see that there will be impact from the market interest rate, and there will be an impact, and there will be our public rates that will be changed as well.

It seems that there will be funding impact in the first half, so NIM will be impacted, and on our loan interest rates, it will be effective. There will be 2 basis points to 3 basis points of impact that will come into being when we have about 25 basis points as the standard, and in the case of Q3. In Q4, we have seasonal funding impact that is quite large. With the year-end, the liquidity effect, I think we have actually made room for this. That has led to more cost ratio. We had the adjustment in Q3 and in Q4. We believe that in the lending, there will be some impact from the uplift, and it seems that we will have more of the impact from our bonds.

I think that for our lending, we will have some improvement. We will have this actually materialize in Q4. I think Q3 will be the low end, and we will see only improvement from this point. Thank you.

Jae-Shin Kang
Group Chief Risk Officer, Hana Financial Group

I would like to answer the second question. I am Jae-Shin Kang, the Group CRO. Regarding our NPL ratio and asset quality, we had some decline, and I think it was included in the presentation materials. There was some workout from large corps and other procedures, which led to negative impact on our assets. The selloff market for NPL market has been subdued, so we couldn't have sufficient NPL selloff until Q3. That is why we believe in Q4, we will be able to engage in more sufficient asset selloff. We believe that the NPL increase will fall within our expectation, and through the selloff, we believe the coverage ratio, compared to now, in Q4, will go into the three digits compared to the current level we have today.

For credit costs, we do believe that partially it can actually go up. We believe that about 35 basis points was our outlook, but it's now at a 30 basis points. We believe that it could have a slight increase, but we will manage to keep it in realm. Thank you very much.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

We will take the next question. Next question is from UBS, Doosan Baek .

Doosan Baek
Analyst, UBS

Good afternoon. Yes, this is Doosan Baek from UBS. Good afternoon. I have a question about the capital ratio. On a quarter-over-quarter basis, your CET1 did improve, but I think the increments, the size of that improvement, wasn't as large as what we had expected. There are these other factors that attribute to this less than expected increase. What was that impact of these other factors in Q3, and what will be your guidance on CET1 in Q4?

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Yes, please give us a moment to coordinate our answers.

Jong-Moo Park
Group CFO, Hana Financial Group

Yes, this is Jong-Moo Park, Group CFO. Versus Q2, our CET1 did come up by 18%. We're expecting an 18 basis point improvement. We have to explain that at the capital level and the RWA, there was a net income of KRW 1.2 trillion in Q3. That is a 40 basis point improvement effect on our capital. There's the FX, which the FX rate decreased KRW 130.83 , so that has a 40 basis point upward effect on our capital. As you know, there was easing operational risk regulations, and that had a 15 basis points improvement effect. There were the effects that increased our capital, and then in Q3, there were the dividend payouts and buyback, which had a 20 basis points downward impact.

There is the OCI side, the other comprehensive income side that I have to explain. There was KRW 1.5 trillion of decreased factor of OCI, so that has a 48 basis points decreasing effect. The exchange rate, if it goes up, RWA assets, for example, forwards, FX forwards, that has increasing impact on the bank's RWA. But when the exchange rate falls, there isn't a proportional decreasing effect on the RWA. I think that explains the impact of the exchange rate fluctuations on our CET1. To give you the Q4 guidance, as you know, we are to maintain 13% of CET1. That's our goal. But we will have some buffer to absorb FX rate changes.

We do not have specific investment plans in the Q4 period, so we would expect to maintain CET1 similar to Q3, but then reflect some changes for FX changes and efficiently increasing our RWA. Overall, we are expecting, as a base case scenario, of maintaining CET1 similar to Q3.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Thank you very much. We will take the next question. The next question will be from HSBC, Jae-Woong Won. You're on the line.

Jae-Woong Won
Analyst, HSBC

Congratulations on your business results in a challenging environment. I actually have three questions. The first question is regarding Q4 NIM. I think you mentioned that you could expect a NIM rebound, and I think ambiguously maybe a bit that it could happen, but looking at the flow of recent news, it seems that the money is flowing to time deposits, and banks are giving out the interest rates 3%-4%. The interest is going up, so the reverse money move, it seems that in Q3, it may end, and then we could have some rebound in Q4. But I think maybe it might not happen, so there could be some concerns about that. So can you give us some color about what your thoughts are? My second question is about the capital ratio.

You mentioned the OCI, and it seems that for the additional area, the numbers are quite sizable compared to the past. So, in this quarter, can you tell us more in detail about why OCI greatly decreased? It seems that looking at the capital ratio, OCI volatility will be quite important. So, if you can give us a take on what impacts that, it will be very helpful. It seems that for the last question, there was a disposition and interest rate effect from Hana Life variable insurance account. So, there was the interest income impact. So, can you give us your thoughts on going forward? Do you think that this is an issue that will be limited to Q2, but you think for Q3 and Q4, whenever we have interest rate change, the disposition and valuation and interest income, will they be affected?

So will this be an important indicator for the securities market or for the banking industry? Can you tell us about what you think it will affect going forward?

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Thank you very much for your questions, and we will soon prepare the answers.

Young-Seok Jeong
CFO, Hana Bank

Thank you very much. I am the CFO of Hana Bank, Young-Seok Jeong, so let me answer that. For Q4, possibility of NIM rebound, I think that was your first question. You also asked about a question focused on funding. Yes, it is true that for Q3 and Q4, there will be time deposit maturity, or a great volume will be matured. It is true that it is quite sizable, but as you know, during Q2 and Q3 of this year, for large corporations, there was a great liquidity in time deposits. So, for the individual, the fund that went out through Money move was complemented by a corporate fund coming in. We believe that preemptively, there was a volume that in Q3, so about KRW 11.3 trillion .

We had preemptively funded that in Q3 for about 6-12 months in advance. Then there is the minimization of the excess funding, and it seems that not really maybe on the funding side, but on lending side, the CD rate for large corporate loans, we have about 60% from that. Looking at the total loans in won, about 30% is CD-linked loans. So it seems that looking at the lending yield or rate, we will have an improvement from Q4. From Q3, we can expect a rebound in Q4.

Jong-Moo Park
Group CFO, Hana Financial Group

Let me answer the next question, and I am the CFO of the group, Jong-Moo Park. Let me answer your question about OCI in relation to capital ratio. Looking at the group, bank securities and life, the OCI-related bonds, while there has been more than KRW 50 trillion that we have. We have the treasury shares, which has actually risen more than 100 basis points. So, for treasury and government bonds, that has been reflected. Looking at the total duration, whether this is sizable or not so, we cannot really have apple to apple comparison with our competitors, but we believe that it is quite sufficient to cover our needs. The bonds that we have, we think that is an effect from the volume of our bonds.

Regarding the account effect from variable insurance, when we calculate NIM, there is the card interest income and the bank that we actually calculate together. When there is the gains and losses that we look to calculate, in Q2, we had a variable insurance leading to disposition and valuation losses, a positive effect. There was the interest income that went down in the cost side. When you look at the numbers, looking at the stock market, when the profitability is high, disposition goes up and interest income goes down. There is that kind of trade-off. I think this might have led to some distortion in the assumptions. With Hana Life, we are trying to come up with some ways to actually have more transparency in the accounting so that it could be more easily understood.

I think the accounting standards that are now being revised. I think that will naturally pick up these effects.

Jae-Woong Won
Analyst, HSBC

Thank you very much for your answers.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

We will go immediately to the next question. Next question will be from iM Securities, Yong-Jin Seol . You are connected. Please go ahead.

Yong-Jin Seol
Analyst, iM Securities

Yes. Thank you very much for the opportunity. I also have two questions. First question is about your KRW 1.22 trillion of commercial paper from the security side. You may have concerns of a reverse margin, a negative margin. What currently is your margin expectation for that KRW 1.2 trillion issuance? I also have additional follow-up questions about your NIM. What were some of the factors on both the funding and lending? There were some issues, I think, with something being excluded from the calculation of the NIM this quarter.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Yes, please give us a moment to organize the answers.

Dong-Sik Kim
CFO, Hana Securities

Well, thank you very much for that question. I am the CFO of Hana Securities. You mentioned about our commercial paper issue. There were four security companies that had a license last year. Now this year we have five companies with licenses. In total, nine security houses can issue the paper. With the rates going up, there is very fierce competition over pricing between existing players and new entrants. We are also responding to that price competition among increasing rates. It is very tight, therefore. I think average margin is just on the asset side. There is the marketable and non-marketable. We are still at 100 basis points more or plus margin, so we would not be, at this point, concerned about a negative margin. W e will continue to maintain at current levels.

Young-Seok Jeong
CFO, Hana Bank

To answer your question, this is the banks, and during Q4, there is a 4 basis points NIM fall on a quarter-over-quarter basis. If we divide that into the funding side versus lending side, there is a Korean won pricing, Korean won loan pricing. There were about 5.2 basis points upward. From the funding side, there is the time deposit pricing going up. So, there was a 7.5 basis points decrease factor. At a portfolio level, on the funding side, in the second half, both institution and retail, their core low-cost deposits decreased. This is sort of a seasonal factor. That had to be replaced by time deposits. There was a negative impact due to increase of time deposits, decrease of low-cost deposits.

You mentioned this statutory or legal expenses not being included, related with the coded fees. This is no longer reflected on our loan pricing rates. Just Q3 alone, that had a 0.7 basis points declining effect on our NIM. In Q4 and going forward, that would be a larger decreasing factor on our NIM, because this year it was effective as of July. So, in second half, we are thinking about 1.5 basis points or 2 basis points decreasing factor combining Q3 and Q4.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

We will take the next question. The next question will be from Hanwha Investment & Securities, Do- Ha Kim. You are on the line, ma'am.

Do-Ha Kim
Analyst, Hanwha Investment & Securities

It is great to be here. Thank you very much for this opportunity. I have questions about capital ratio and shareholder returns, and some minor questions about your securities. Regarding the lending risk, I think that was applied. For 2024, for ELS penalties when it was applied, I think this might be reflected in the early half of next year, not this year. For your operational risk, I think the impact was about KRW 1 trillion or so, if I recollect. If this was not reflected for next year's RWA rationalization, this, I think, could be included. So, does this include all of this? Based on the decreased RWA growth rate leading to your TSR. Can you give us the factors in the calculation? The second minor question is about G&A costs.

Looking at the ordinary operation income that was affected, it seems that this was not impacted because for a cost or dividend valuation was not very good. This was easily predicted. The top line has gone down about 50%, but it seems that the SG&A really did not go down. So, it seems that for your profitability and education taxes, did that lead to higher fixed costs? Can you tell us about what actually happened to SG&A amidst these environmental factors?

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Thank you very much for your questions, and we will soon answer them.

Jae-Shin Kang
Group Chief Risk Officer, Hana Financial Group

Thank you very much for your questions. I will answer the first question. I am Jae-Shin Kang, the CRO. The operational risk recognition, rationalization, well, if we have sufficient plans to stop from this occurring again, I think it was recognized. So regarding its impact on ELS for next year, we can't really say that it will be actually under that rationalization plan like this year. So regarding the operational risk, it happens after three years, and then a judgment is made. So, whether it will be reflected next year, we did not actually have that in our plan, and this was not reflected in the numbers.

Dong-Sik Kim
CFO, Hana Securities

Let me answer the second question. I am the CFO of Hana Securities. Regarding the ordinary operating income decrease in Q3 of 2026 compared to Q2, this is based on consolidated net income and for ordinary operating income and SG&A. Well, in Q3 there was the stock market adjustment, and it is true that ordinary costs actually went down 10%. Looking at the ordinary operating profits, you can see this is on a consolidated basis. So, looking at the dividend and equity valuation gains, well, there is a time lag. So for the equity valuation method, I think that is affected. So, there is that difference in net income. For separate net income, you're looking at Q1, Q2, and Q3.

Looking at the net income trend, it's within KRW 100 billion, so it is very robust. Regarding the difference with the separate consolidated net income, I think that's something that is a little bit different.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

We'll take the next question. Next question is from Samsung Securities, Jae-Woo Kim.

Jae-Woo Kim
Analyst, Samsung Securities

Good afternoon. I also have two questions. My first question, to go back to Hana Securities about a standalone non-consolidated basis, KRW 100 billion. Yeah, that I can understand. If you look at the financial statements that we have in hand, your disposition and valuation gain has decreased quite significantly. When we look at Q1 and Q2, other income was a positive factor. But in Q3, there is a significant negative on your other income. Can you explain this? Is it because overseas alternative assets or what happened in Q3 on your other income? I do understand that security business is sensitive to market conditions and situations. How should we interpret this data, for example? Are you doing something to stabilize your business performance despite market conditions?

Second question is TSR. It's close to 50%. About next year, with RWA or CET1 expected to improve, what do you think is a fair expectation for shareholders and investors regarding your next year TSR levels?

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Thank you very much for those questions, and we will take a moment to prepare the answers.

Dong-Sik Kim
CFO, Hana Securities

Yes, this is the CFO of Hana Securities. I'll answer your first question about disposition and valuation gain. I think it's the same mechanism across all of the securities firms. It is interest and fees. It's around nine to ten times leverage. So, in the OTC, a lot of the increases are booked in the valuation gain, and then the others go out in the other income and interest income. So there, the disposition and valuation gain, without any factors, there's always an expense of KRW 200 billion on a running basis. About overseas alternative, yes, there were some losses, but those are under control. There are some in Q3, but it is not extraordinary or unusually large. I think WM, Wealth Management, is a key area where we are focusing. We have mega branches and the mobile trading system that we have launched.

That is where we are recruiting new customers. We also have Hong Kong and Japan WM businesses that we are planning to expand next year to increase our top line. Your second question, we were not able to hear your question very well due to some technical issues. Do you mind repeating your question?

Jae-Woo Kim
Analyst, Samsung Securities

Yes. This is about your TSR. What would be a guidance that we can follow for next year TSR? You are close to 50%, and it seems next year you are expecting interest income to remain solid. Your ROE and RWA will remain there, so there would be more upside there. For example, other financial groups are already beyond 50% and going up. Because you did say last time it is 50% plus alpha. So, what is the guidance? Can you give us guidance on TSR next year considering all of those factors?

Dong-Sik Kim
CFO, Hana Securities

I think that is the most question we have gotten today thus far, because when we look at 2026, this year, we have already announced the buyback and dividends, so you will get full visibility of our TSR this year. If we look at next year, 2027, I am also putting thought into that as the person in charge at working level. What we are currently operating with now is the value-up program that we announced last quarter. We will stand by that. When we hear opinions from investors and shareholders, we do sense that maybe we need to increase our buyback versus cash dividend, or changing the formula behind our cash dividends to use average earnings on a three-year basis.

To go back to your question, we are putting a lot of different thoughts into it, but as you know, our framework is based on RWA increase and ROE. I think our target needs to be aiming for higher ROE and increasing the size of the pie that is available for shareholder return. That is actually the essence of our second value-up plan, which means buyback cancellations and cash dividends, the right mix. We are trying to figure the optimal share, and that has to be something that has to be discussed with top management and the board. We do hear the investor and shareholder opinions, and we may have to fine-tune our direction a little bit, but ultimately, increasing enterprise value and shareholder return both, I think pursuing both is the best direction. That may not have completely answered your question, but I have done my best.

G.H. Park
Head of Investor Relations, Hana Financial Group

Thank you very much. It seems that we have no questions in the queue. I think we enjoyed a very fruitful Q&A session. With this, we will conclude Hana Financial Group's 2026 Q3 business results presentation. For those who are not able to join us now or who need to actually revisit our business results presentation, please visit our website and we will upload it tonight. Please contact our IR team if you have any questions or comments. We will do our best to faithfully answer them. Thank you very much for your participation.