Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Rallis India Limited Q4 and FY 2026 earnings conference call. We have with us today Dr. Gyanendra Shukla Managing Director and CEO, and Mr. Bhaskar Swaminathan , Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to mention that some of the statements made in today's discussion may be forward-looking in nature and may involve risks and uncertainties. A detailed statement in this regard is available in the results presentation. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now invite Dr. Shukla to begin the proceedings of the call. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning, everyone, and for joining us today on Rallis India Limited Q4 and fiscal 2026 earnings call. As mentioned, I have alongside myself our CFO, Mr. Bhaskar Swaminathan.
Good morning, everyone.
I'll open with an overview of the industry landscape before addressing developments specific to Rallis. The Indian agrochemical sector is currently transitioning from a buyer's to a seller's market due to war-induced supply constraint and rising prices. Post-Iran war, the industry shifted to a seller's market with signs of panic buying and hoarding. Supply chain disruptions persist, but the inventories help most companies avoid damage. Agrochemicals, particularly glyphosate, is facing-
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Pass-through in China supply chain disruptions amid global tensions. The prices of other generic AIs like glufosinate, mancozeb, metribuzin , strobilurin fungicides, pyrethroids, CT, etc., it's a near-term cost inflation wave likely to compress downstream margins. Quarter four is typically slow for the domestic market for agrochemicals. In addition, the Rabi season has not gone well owing to the unfavorable climate. As per the official data, the unseasonal rain and hailstorms have damaged the wheat crop across 2,000 hectares, with wheat suffering the maximum impact. At the end of March 2026, summer sowing is progressing at a slower pace, down 4.7% year-on-year, primarily driven by decline in rice, cereals, and oilseeds. Within cereals, Bajra sowing has improved by about 9%, while maize has declined by about 8%.
In oilseed, groundnuts sowing is significantly lower, down by 12.7%. Pulses is a bright spot with total area rising by 17%. IMD's 2026 monsoon forecast at 90% of the LPA signals normal rain following continental effects such as [El Niño] odds drive early deficit in North and Central and Western India and which are key sowing areas, while South and East may see a relative better monsoon. Well-distributed precipitation during key sowing windows can partly offset deficits, whereas erratic patterns such as prolonged dry spells or excessive concentration tend to be more disruptive. Erratic patterns risk 5%-10% demand cut for herbicides and insecticides. In integrated firms with balanced portfolios of seed, crop protection, and soil and plant health tend to face you know, less impact.
Expanding irrigation coverage to 55% of the arable land has notably reduced monsoon dependence on key crops for India. The rural diversification into dairy, poultry, and allied sectors now contributes roughly 1/4 of the income per household, providing a structural buffer against rainfall deficits. The MSP framework key indicator for Kharif 2025-2026 is broadly supportive for oilseeds, pulses, millets, and cotton. While the hike in paddy is relatively modest from the agrochemical and seed industry perspective, this is positive for crops such as cotton, soybean, groundnut, maize, pulses, and millets, provided monsoon distribution and reservoir levels remain supportive. Agriculture sector may see a 3%-4% growth in fiscal year 2027. Seeds category remain a structural 5%-10% CAGR story depending on the portfolio of the companies.
Volumes might shrink due to less acreages, but margins are expected to remain stable to soft. The market should favor low-cost producers with export breadth and tight working capital discipline. The near-term outlook remains contingent on the evolution of Middle East conflict. While healthy reserve levels of approximately 54% are supportive for ongoing season, reduced acreage and forecast of below monsoon rainfall could possibly pose some risk. India's FCO 2026, this was a key bill which was, you know, brought to regulate the biostimulant fertilize, standardizing humic acid and seaweed formulations, thereby improving product reliability and regulatory clarity. I think this is very good positive development for the long- term.
The global crop protection market estimated at approximately $70 billion-$75 billion in 2026 and is projected to grow at a CAGR of 5%-5.5%, supported by rising food demand, limited arable land, and need to improve farm productivity. On supply side, the globally China-linked supply concentration remains a key issue, especially for active ingredients and intermediates, where export restrictions, price shocks or freight disruptions can quickly affect availability and cost. Elevated raw material and logistics costs continue to pressure manufacturers, while global weather uncertainty and changing crop patterns added demand volatility. Global recovery in this sector is visible but uneven. U.S. demand is supportive, Brazil is weak. China-led pricing pressure remains a key concern.
India's rice stock position remains strong, but the latest report last year does not indicate any fresh increase from March to April. Global rice stocks have increased, including a comfortable supply situation and any possible pressure on global rice prices. That's a global overview. Moving on to Rallis specific developments. We had a reasonable quarter four performance despite short Rabi season and geopolitical unrest. Our quarter four revenue stood at INR 456 crore versus INR 43 crore previous year. EBITDA improved by 96% to -INR 1 crore from -INR 19 crore in Q4 fiscal year 2025. Profit after tax stood at -INR 15 crore versus -INR 32 crore of quarter four fiscal year 2025.
Exceptional items include profit on the sale of some property, land worth INR 3 crore in Aurangabad. Across the technical portfolio, we are continuously broadening our customer base and securing additional registration with global players to drive share gains. In metribuzin, the volumes have decreased in quarter four in comparison to quarter 25 volumes. Pendimethalin volumes have increased. Hexaconazole volumes also have increased, and there has been some decrease in the acephate volume. Pendi and hexa has done overall well. There's some shrinkage of volume in metri and acephate. Overall annual capacity utilization has improved in fiscal year 2026 compared to 2025. On new launches, we have currently launched Alster, a dual-action granular insecticide, and Fiplan, which last year we had announced, but we were not able to launch because of some quality constraint. It has been launched now.
It'll help in managing both. It's a broader spectrum insecticide to manage both sucking and chewing pest. We have also obtained registration for a three-way rice herbicide. In past I've been talking about growing herbicide segment, so this is addition to that. It'll be called Spiro. We are working on the launch plan. In Q4, we had launched an initiative called Idea to Impact to establish an open innovation system to source, validate, and commercialize agri innovations. We have also launched Saksham, a GIS platform, which enables scientific identification of high-potential villages for target market expansion. Our new initiative, Sampark Plus, captures farmer-level demand signal to generate actionable insights and improve sales conversion and move inventory as needed.
We're also using tech-assisted products in the generated demand, digital-led FieldAV brand campaigns, farmer and retailer-level digital schemes, and enrollment of retailers on Anuvath platform. All these platforms are digitally- driven. This is all part of our initial deliverable of customer centricity goals, as well as, you know, retailer and distribution connect. As a result of improved manufacturing efficiency and operational excellence, Rallis has achieved record production levels. We have enabled digital-led engagement that is the essence of data-driven decision-making and enhances farmer outreach and our advisory productivity. We are also shifting towards high-margin, sustainable and farmer-centric offerings, including biological and next-generation product. That concludes my opening remark. I'll now hand it over to Mr. Bhaskar, our CFO, for a detailed analysis of the financial situation. Over to you, Bhaskar.
Thank you, Gyanendra . Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our Q4 and FY 2026 earnings call. I'll walk you through our financial performance for the quarter, post which we shall commence on the Q&A session. Starting with the top line for the year, our Q4 FY 2026 revenue stood at INR 456 crores as against INR 430 crores for the same period last year, resulting in an overall growth of 6%. Overall volume growth has been 5% with pricing growth by 1%. Overall EBITDA for Q4 FY 2026 stood at INR -1 crore, higher by 96 compared to last year of INR - 19 crores of the same quarter.
Profit after tax stood at INR -15 crore versus INR -32 crore of Q4 last year, which is 52% higher than the previous year, same quarter. Crop Care segment grew by 5% to INR 425 crore in Q4 FY 2026 from INR 405 crore in Q4 FY 2025 due to volume expansion, new product promotion, and increased digital engagement. Moving to domestic B2C, a 15% growth in Q4 FY 2026, registering INR 255 crore revenue vis-à-vis INR 222 crore in Q4 FY 2025, which was driven by volume growth of 14%, primarily led by insecticides. Soil and plant health category grew by 27% to INR 47 crore from INR 37 crore in Q4 of FY 2026 in comparison to Q4 FY 2025. It registered a robust volume growth of 29%.
The volume effect is due to growth in micronutrients and biofertilizers. Moving to seeds business, seeds revenue grew by 23% to INR 31 crore in Q4 FY 2026 from INR 25 crore in Q4 FY 2025, due to 8% volume growth and 15% price growth, mainly driven by cotton and millet. Exports top line degrew by 33% to INR 77 crore from INR 114 crore due to degrowth in volumes and revenue from agricultural and pending intelligence. CSM products, Custom Synthesis Manufactured products, in Q4 FY 2026 revenue displayed promising growth by showing 15% growth to INR 66 crore from INR 41 crore of last year, driven by both volume and price growth. The revenues stood at INR 170 crore versus INR 182 crore, with a decline of 7% primarily due to volumes.
For the full financial year period, top line revenues stood at INR 2,897 crore, reflecting a growth of 9% year-on-year. Crop Care revenues stood at INR 2,416 crore, reflecting 8% growth year-on-year, driven by volume expansion despite price softening. Seeds revenue increased to INR 481 crore, delivering 15% growth year-on-year, supported by cotton and maize, along with improved contribution from in-license products. The B2C business recorded growth of 5% delivering INR 1,657 crore revenue, primarily contributed by 9% volume growth. The B2B business recorded growth of 14% delivering INR 759 crore of revenue, supported by both volume and price growth and expansion of the customer base.
In the Crop Care segment, expansion of our customer base and product portfolio is enhancing business resilience. We are driving focused execution across frontline and operational functions by optimizing the product portfolio, rationalizing territories, eliminating overlaps, and simplifying costs across the value chain. In the Seed segment, our primary focus will be on five strategic crops: cotton, maize, millet, mustard, and rice. A selective and concentrated approach in these crops is expected to drive operational scale and efficiency. Overall, we remain disciplined in improving capital efficiency across both fixed capital and working capital. At quarter end, our inventory levels remain slightly elevated in comparison to the same quarter of last year. Collection cycles remain smooth. We have healthy cash and liquid balance of INR 541 crores as at 31 March 2026.
Our continuous approach towards improving digital initiatives is helping us reach targeted customer groups with greater momentum. In parallel, we are undertaking portfolio rationalization and sharpening our focus on priority markets to enhance operational efficiency, strengthen market presence, and improve profitability. Thereby, we remain committed to achieving consistent and profitable growth. That concludes our opening remarks. We can now commence the Q&A session.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question comes on the line of Prashant Biyani with Elara Capital. Please go ahead.
Yeah, thank you for the opportunity. Sir, the first three bullet points of your commentary on slide 12 portrays a very pessimistic scenario, but your performance was pretty contrary to that. I just wanted to know, especially on the gross margin part, what drove healthy margin improvement at the gross margin level?
I think, you know, when we put a commentary, it is based on what was happening in the market, right? You know, last year we started with a very heavy early rainfall that impacted herbicide users in crops like soybean and cotton. That was a big impact. Then we came to end of Kharif season, massive rain led to decline in consumption of insecticide. As you move forward towards Rabi, actually rain suddenly stopped in September, and as a result, there was impact on pest disease pressure and all. If you see the context of overall year development has been a little bit choppy, it indicates that nothing else. Having said that, I think, you know, our focus is to those events will continue to happen.
How do we move forward and thereby deliver better performance in an ongoing basis? Now, gross margin obviously is a combination of our ability. So two things, you know. So I mean, again, it's a segment by segment. I think our contribution in seed and soil and plant health business continues to remain robust. When we say crop protection as a category, there's always a mix of products. If any one of you might remember, I've been talking about two troubled children for us, you know, Plasto and Benzilla, right? So we are trying to actually liquidate that inventory. I think we are done with majority of it. That led to compression of margin in quarter four because we had to liquidate that inventory. We just cannot keep it.
Otherwise it becomes a write-off.
Sir, I meant, sorry, you meant that these two products, inventory was liquidated before Q4 or during Q4?
No, no, during Q4.
But we delivered a decent margin expansion at the gross level.
On a whole perspective you're looking at it, right?
No, I'm looking at Q4 specifically on gross margin.
From the perspective of, crop protection or seed?
Both. Seeds, I mean, is a small thing only, mainly on the Crop Care side.
I think margin expansion, if you see from what I know, our CSM business delivered higher margin because we had a contract, though it is a smaller business. There is a clause where we can actually get some benefit if volumes drop below a certain threshold, so that helped. SPH business was slightly better. Overall B2B business exports were better, seed was better. That is what is reflected in our overall number. On crop protection, on a standalone basis, it was marginally down because, you know, B2C business because of Benzilla and Clasto.
Okay. Sir, how are you seeing the initial demand for Kharif?
Two things are happening. I think right now, everybody has gone into a wait and watch mode. First of all, the rainfall, you know, El Niño impact, nobody knows. The other thing which is, you know, people are looking at how government will be able to mop up sufficient fertilizer. These two factors might have some. Third one is always the commodity prices, right? Rainfall pattern, commodity prices, and fertilizer, these three factors will determine, to what extent farmer will plant what. When we plan our business, we plan on a normal basis. Because I believe each three are factors, you know.
For example, I believe that if farmers get 10% less urea, it will not impact the yield, because farmers are used to using high urea because they're highly subsidized. More than urea, phosphorus, potash are going to be more critical. When it comes to rain, there's a forecast of 8% less rain over LPA. But again, that 8%, there have been instances where rainfall has been 8% lower or even much lower. But distribution was good and it arrived timely, so as a result it didn't have much negative impact. I think a lot of unknowns and war-led petrochemical, you know, disruption, supply chain or solvents. You know, energy costs, everybody increasing the prices of raw material.
All of that, when you factor in, it is very, very difficult to put a finger and say, "Look what will happen." What we are trying to see is that historically, you know, I mean, my agriculture lifetime experience in 40 years, there have been two worse droughts. Even then, area sown does not go below 85%, 95%, even 90%. Farmers will plant something. They might make different choices. They might also downtrade on the kind of seed they buy. They may not buy very premium seed. They might reduce some fertilizer consumption. Unless they expect a good income, they may opt for lower cost crop protection product versus high cost crop protection product. It's too difficult to say.
From our perspective, we are trying to secure as much as possible supply for Kharif, and we'll also seek opportunities to pass on at least cost increase.
Sir, just lastly. Sir, our crop B2C business growth was driven by insecticides. Sir, why would insecticide sales grow this much when you know this would be a herbicide placement season?
I mean, let me tell you placement. I think first of all, we have not gone for any significant placement more than what is required in quarter four because some of this was low cost inventory and we would like to sell in quarter one because there's an opportunity to realize higher price. You know, I mean, I keep saying that, look, don't look at our business on a quarterly basis. No, that's not the right way. Always look at our business on H1 basis, H2 basis. If you say H1 story, I was telling, you know, H1, if you see our business, actually the leading growth had come from fungicide and herbicide. In H1 because of August, September rains, insecticide usage had dropped.
As a result, insecticide business had declined. Come to H2, actually our herbicide and insecticide have done better, right? Whereas fungicide has slightly gone down because there's a dry weather, lesser diseases. On a yearly basis, I would say we are slightly down on insecticide because of the impact which got created in H1. We are up on fungicide, and we are significantly higher on herbicide. On a yearly basis, our herbicide business is up by 15%, fungicide by 5%, and insecticide is down by 3%. That means our B2C business has gone by 4% overall.
Okay, sir. Thank you so much for your time and all the best.
Thank you.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Ankur Periwal, Axis Capital. Please proceed.
Yeah. Hi, sir. Thanks for the opportunity. Now my first question on the seeds business there. So, you know, if I look at not quarterly, but let's say on an annual basis, we have done reasonably well this year, along with some sort of, you know, stability or improvement coming in the EBITDA margin as well. Given your commentary of focusing on those key five crops, how do you look at growth or ramp up in this business over the next two to three years? There have been, you know, issues of lower inventory earlier. But despite that we are seeing some margin uptake possibly because of better pricing. Your thoughts on, one, volume growth, pricing growth, and margin outlook for this business?
Right. I think, you know, in one statement I can say pricing across the board will be higher. Because when commodity prices go up, we have to compensate more to the growers, and that has to be, you know, we have to figure out a way to continuously increase the price. Now, when it comes to yearly construct of the seed business, to me, four crops are more important: cotton, rice, maize, and millet. Each one of those crops actually had delivered a growth last year. Cotton, in fact, had grown by almost 35%. Maize had grown by 20%. Millet growth was 8%. There was a small growth in rice because rice seed availability was a challenge.
Now, when I look forward, I think cotton probably this year again will deliver highest growth, followed by maize and rice and then millet. Millet because of the limited area. In fact, millet might surprise us. In a less rainfall area, sometimes millet area also goes up. That's how I see it. I expect a combination of price and volume growth, and I'm expecting to deliver, you know, high- double-digit growth again this year.
Sir, just one follow-up. High- double- digit is a volumetric growth that you're looking at, or it includes the pricing also?
It's a combination of volume and price.
Okay. Sure. On the margin front, should we expect to sustain these margins or maybe even improve given the realization improvement?
I cannot predict that, but obviously effort is, you know, when your business grows, you know, costs should not grow in the same proportion. That should have positive impact on the margin. In seed, for example, last year we suffered because we had to pay higher prices for drying and processing and all. This year, you know, there is a other phenomena because of seeding crop was on time by everybody else, and harvest came at the same time. As a result, there was a certain capacity constraint for dryers, which is a primarily third-party activity. As a result, companies have to pay incremental cost for drying in the paddy open field. When you dry in the open field, what we call pad drying, it also sometimes can lead to lesser recovery.
All of those factors are not known yet. I think we are in the process of preparing for Kharif and inventory and costing and everything probably will be known towards end of the quarter. How season fares from a consumption perspective is only known when first half is over.
Sure, sir. Second bit on the Crop Care side. You know, if you can share your thoughts and comments on, you know, the specific product, acephate, pendimethalin, et cetera. You know, how is the macro behaving, especially, you know, given the supply chain volatility globally as well, both on capacity as well as on the pricing front?
So-
Thanks.
I think as far as domestic branded business is concerned, availability is not a constraint. We are okay. Now, when it comes to our export business, I think there are four primary molecules we deal: pendimethalin, hexaconazole, acephate and metribuzin. I continue to remain positive on metribuzin and pendimethalin and hexaconazole. There's a structural challenge on acephate side because the same people, those who supply us raw material, they compete with us in the American markets. As a result, there's always a challenge, you know, to supply those markets. Having said that, given some supply challenges also we are trying to prioritize domestic market for a product like acephate and, you know, trying to balance it, not lose the customer at the same time.
See where we are going to be able, we will be making more money. There are other products like metolachlor we make, kresoxim-methyl we make. Those are relatively smaller product.
Sure, sir. That's helpful. I'll get back into the queue. Thank you and all the best.
Thank you.
Next question comes from the line of Viraj with SiMPL. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Just couple of questions. First is just to clarify, you said the standalone B2C gross margin has softened in the quarter, and whatever increase we've seen on a consolidated basis is a mix of B2B, exports and seeds. Am I right?
Yes.
Okay. Yeah, just Q4. With regards to the healthy volume growth which we saw in B2C in the quarter gone by, that would also be largely a function of the placement we would be doing for insecticides or maybe for the, you know, biostimulants for the upcoming quarter. Would that also be a right understanding?
No. Actually, contrary to what we should have done, we have not done that. We have been very conservative on replacing the stock, right? We have only sold what is required, because as the sentiments change, we might have an opportunity to have higher realization. As a result, we haven't aggressively pushed the stocks.
Okay. Any color you can give in terms of inventory in the system for the market?
Look, at this point of time, if you go to the market, while it seems challenging environment, but every product is available. Right? We haven't seen any early sign of price increase because consumption has not begun yet, right? Except the cotton seed, where probably in Northern India, we are midway in the season. From that perspective, no price increase. All the price increase opportunities will come in rice, maize and millet. Cotton is primarily a volume game. Same way crop protection, I think, you know, because of rain and all, you know. Yes, companies do place some. The normal inventory, we haven't done anything beyond normal inventory.
No, I meant for the crop protection for the industry, not specific to us. Any color you have on the inventory in the system you can give. Because, you know, even Q2 was bad and Q3 has not been that great. You know, any color you can give in terms of the inventory in the system.
I think inventory has come to a normal level. I mean, two years ago, this whole industry was suffering from a lot of inventory hangover. I think that has reached to a normal level now. Now, obviously, I don't have company by company detail. I don't have insight into other companies. There are enough indicators in the system to say people have inventory what they need. They're not carrying forward a lot of excess inventory.
Okay. No, because where I was coming from is, as you alluded in this earlier part of the call as well, is that, you know, any cost increase which we are witnessing right now, we'll be looking at opportunity to pass through. In that sense, you know, especially on the generic piece, you know, just to understand the factors we are, you know, looking internally, which gives us confidence that-
No.
We'll be able to pass through.
Yeah, we are one of the first ones to announce price increase because we cannot absorb all the cost. Because consumption season has not yet begun, so it's very, very difficult to say how market will behave. Every company is kind of indicating, you know, they have to pass on cost increase, otherwise they'll, you know, they'll face a very challenging time.
Okay. Last question was on the exports or the B2B piece. Any update in terms of pipeline, in terms of new molecules which we have commercialized or looking to commercialize?
Current year, last year we did start making. There's a molecule called pencycuron. Besides that, when that happened in the last quarter, I think we'll still rely on old molecule. There are two, three new molecules. We have narrowed down the list we used to work. Now we've got about three molecules, which should get introduced in next two to three years. We are in the advanced stages of, you know, establishing processes. You know, working with the, you know, what do you call it, buyers and obviously there's a registration process that has to happen parallelly.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Thanks.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Saurabh Jain with HSBC. Please go ahead.
Thank you for the opportunity.
Yes, sir.
My first question is, can you please give us?
Mr. Jain, sorry for interrupting. You sound a little lower. Can you please speak a little louder, please?
I'm saying can you give us some sense on how is the trends you're looking at in April across all the three businesses in terms of, you know, volume growth and maybe some sense on the pricing?
If you say April, basically, some season for tea gardens starts in the northeastern side. That is from a consumption perspective is normal. April season seems to be normal across Himachal and Jammu. Then you have cotton season which begins in north for seed. This is a low crop protection month and low SPH month, right? Because all of that will start with the rains when they start coming in the month of, you know, end of May in Kerala and pre-monsoon showers, some places it happens. It's too early to predict that. As you know, as I was saying, farmers will plant the crop even in the worst monsoon years. We haven't seen acreages dropping. I think what farmers do start doing is down trading, right? They might use lesser price.
They might set priced seed. In some cases they might go for saved seed. All of that happens. Given the uncertainty around rain and commodity prices and everything else, seed indication, I think we have a fair sense of seed indication by end of May, in terms of sentiments towards crop. Crop protection, I think is very, very difficult to predict any trend before end of May or early June.
What about global trends? Because you earlier alluded to the fact that there is some sort of, you know, panic buying.
Yes.
That is being set in. Are you seeing any trends that indicate that the trade channels are looking to fill up the paddies and volumes are moving early?
Not early. See, look, North America is the biggest season where placement happens in March, right? Now, their purchases would have happened in the fourth quarter calendar year last year. I think what is important for North America is their rainfall, because their agriculture is highly rainfall dependent. Brazil had a decent season, not an outstanding season. But global commodity prices actually still are not reflecting in the commodity prices around the globe. Commodity prices continue to remain relatively soft. Which means at least world is sitting on enough inventory of everything.
Have you also increased? You're taking some price increases in the global portfolio?
Everywhere. I mean, wherever possible, you know, we have to increase, otherwise, you know, we'll be paying money from our pocket.
Understood. In trying to tie this with the disruption that we are, you know, currently witnessing. You also mentioned that the margins in the B2B business has improved. Would it be fair to assume that the worst of the margins are behind and with the price increases that we might undertake, you know, the margins can here onwards trend on a positive side and it can get better?
You know, in last five, seven years, this industry has learned a lot, right? There was a COVID and there was a Ukraine war, and now this is new war, and every time new learning is coming, right? During COVID period, everybody got engaged in the farming as a result. Companies did very well, and supply chain was disrupted, but still material was available. Ukraine war came. There was a shock of petroleum prices that subsided. But that COVID thing also led to a lot of inventory buildup because one, two-year did well, third, fourth year a lot of inventory. War happens. Now, that has become normal. Now we are dealing with a new thing, right? Too frequent, too many things happening, and now we are also talking about El Niño.
All I know is that farmers will plant the crop. Southwest monsoon, based on what it looks, is going to be good. Punjab, Haryana, western UP, part of Rajasthan, eastern Madhya Pradesh, they're all irrigated, or get, what do you call, a short rainfall. The risk is only few pockets in the country. For example, Marathwada, Vidarbha could be a challenge. There could be a challenge in Saurashtra. There could be a challenge in Rayalaseema. Other than that, there are pockets of challenge, but I would say still agriculture, farmers will. That's a basic thing, right? Will happen.
Understood. My last question.
Farmers, if they input, they will plant the seed.
Sure. That's helpful. My last question. At this point in time, are you facing any disruptions in terms of your procurement of raw material or technicals or very high pricing which you would believe that it will be difficult to pass on to?
There was a period when every company left, right, and center was issuing force majeure letter and they said, "Wait." Right? There was a time when they will say, "We are giving you a price for a quantity confirmation in three hours. Otherwise, after three hours, I cannot." I think all of that is over now. There's a bit of normalcy. When this war started, I mean, things looked very chaotic. There's some order is getting established. Yes, obviously we have to pay higher for everything, and then we have to figure out a way to see how much we can increase. Obviously, it'll depend on what competitive products also do.
Hmm. So-
Attempt to increase the pattern.
Yeah. Okay. Let us see if, you know, this thing seems to continue more than what we earlier expected. Would you expect any disruptions in your manufacturing in the next few critical months, month of May and June?
I think as far as Kharif is concerned, we have covered ourselves quite well. See, seed is all domestic, no problem. Soil and plant health is by and large covered largely domestic. Where we have a crop protection, which is a domestic side story, five ingredients we produce on our own. Some of the other ingredients and all, we have suppliers where they might want higher price, but we have secured supply. It's not a straight answer. I would say I'm covered by and large for the Kharif.
Okay. Sure. That is very helpful. I'll-
It goes beyond June. All right. Thank you.
Understood.
Thank you. Next question comes on the line of Rohit Nagraj with 360 ONE Capital. Please go ahead.
Hi, Rohit.
Hi. Thanks for the opportunity. First question is, in your opening remarks you mentioned that, the margins will be stable to soft. In terms of the cost increase, we have already experienced that the raw material cost or sourcing cost has increased. We'll be passing on to the, you know, farmers by increased prices. Given that, the monsoon is expected to be low, how much ability do we have in terms of, increased cost completely passing on to the farmers? Secondly, will there be any, you know, negative impact? Because generally the sentiment will be, you know, negative. Plus, as you also explained, there will be a downtrading which will also happen. I mean, the farmers may go for branded generics to the normal generic.
Just a broader perspective would be helpful. Thank you.
Branded generics actually helps Rallis because this is where we operate, no? We are selling generic product. We are not an inventor company, right? As far as planting is concerned, we know that, you know, farmers, I mean, as I said, farmers even in the worst condition will plant the crop. If they go for lower cost seed, lower cost of a lower priced product, it does help Rallis both on the seed and crop protection and other category sides. What we don't know is basically a fertilizer, how much government will be able to provide. For the result, will farmers be making different choices? Government has not increased any prices for the farmers. All price increase currently, if you see, is being absorbed by the government.
As I said, look, even if 10% less urea is available, it actually doesn't, it will not have any serious impact on the agriculture production. It might have a sentiment. Some people think that for growing corn you need more fertilizer. If they don't get enough urea, they might say, "Okay, plant less corn." There's another side of the story where now they can easily sell that for the industrial users. It's not a straight answer. I would say let's assume agriculture will happen. There'll be cost increase and companies will have opportunities to pass on the cost increase, unless there's a total failure of agriculture. Monsoon doesn't come in at all in June and July. I mean, that's. That has never happened in the history of, you know, humankind.
Sure. Thanks. Just second question in terms of cost increases, till now, what is the kind of cost increase that we have observed in percentage on overall.
We have seen 15%-25%. 15%-25% is generally the range.
Sure. I think that is helpful. Thanks a lot and all the best, sir.
Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Ketan Chawla with Affirma Capital. Please go ahead.
Hi. Can you just add a clarification on the earlier question? The 15%-25% cost increase is on account of raw materials, and what proportion of this are we passing through versus what we're absorbing?
As I said in the beginning, right now it's all placement, right? We have tried to pass on all. We have announced the price increase. I think, you know, everybody is working. There's always a carryover inventory which comes from January, February, March that was supplied at a low price. I think that will get exhausted and then new price will start getting established in the market. That's how market is start. All the new supplies we have been supplying at a price. Our attempt to pass on all the increase, whatever, but then wait and watch recent reacts.
Understood. In terms of, based on where you know how you see the market right now, how long do you expect this 15%-25% cost increase? Are you expecting this to populate for first half of this year?
Look, most of the Kharif inventory people will build by June. For Kharif, this cost increase, you have to assume that it has happened, right? It's already a reality. We cannot ignore that fact because we are getting into May now, very soon, and most companies would like to procure raw material even if something has to be sold in July or say September because there's a lead time of shipping, bringing in, processing, packing, and supplying. Generally it's 90-150 day cycle depending on the product and crop. For herbicides, anyway, every company has made all the arrangements because herbicides need to be supplied in May and June for consumption in June and July, right? Herbicide is all done. Insecticides also start early. That's happening.
Fungicides come later on. I think you have to assume this cost increase, even if say war settles tonight. You know, we have a surprise announcement that war is over, right? Strait of Hormuz is open. Life is normal. It's going to take three to four months to unwind. To me, Kharif is this the reality. We'll live with it. We'll have to live with it. We don't have a choice.
Understood. Thanks.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Abhijit Akella with Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thank you so much for taking my question, sir.
Hi, Abhijit.
Hi, sir. Just first of all, one clarification on the numbers, revenue breakdown.
Hi.
Yeah, Bhaskar had given us a number of INR 255 crores for B2C sales for the quarter compared to INR 222 crores last year. Just wondering if it might be possible to also give us a crop protection component within that specifically.
Yes, he will be able to provide that. Those are micro details, but by and large, I would say it is split between SPH and crop protection, you know, 20% and 80%. We'll get back to you details separately because these are my, you know.
Okay.
first splits.
No problem.
You can drop a mail to, you know, Chirjeev separately.
Sure, sure. When you guided to high double-digit growth for seeds in the next year, just to clarify that, basically referring to, say, something like high teen, right? Is that the range you're looking at?
Yeah, I mean, mid-teen, mid-teen easily.
Okay. Sure. There was one comment, sir, you made in the opening remarks that the sector may see 3%-4% growth in FY 2027.
No, that's the GDP growth.
Oh, okay.
That's the GDP.
Okay. All right. Understood. On the crop protection side as well, the margins, when you mentioned stable to soft.
So-
-are you visually expecting-
Yeah. I mean, percentage revenue growth will be higher this year because price increase, you know. Revenue growth probably will be maybe double-digit. I don't know what it could be. Because if your input cost has gone up by 15%-20%, it is going to lead to price increase for sure. It'll be 5%, 8%, 10%. I don't know at this point of time, because ultimately many factors are not clear yet. Margins, depending on how competition will react, how commodity prices will behave. Generally in such situations, commodity prices tend to rise. Again, it tends to be crop specific. Other than rice, I expect commodity prices to remain firm on everything else. Rice, the globe is sitting on an excess supply, including India.
India, for example, grows a lot of Basmati. If Middle East remains disrupted, you know, then Basmati demand will go down. As a result, farmers may plant less Basmati. They might plant regular rice, they might plant a little bit more maize or some other crops. I think those are the things, you know, too early to say. Again, for maize, they will say, "I need more urea." Now if enough more urea is not available, will they do something else? Too early to say.
Got it. Just last couple of quick things from me.
Mm-hmm.
One is, you know, at some point, if we assume that this war ends and the price of crude comes down, how do we sort of protect ourselves from the risk that we may be sitting on high cost inventories at that point?
Actually, your line. The question, well, because line was breaking.
Am I audible right now clearly?
Yes, you are audible. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Thank you, sir. Just asking that.
Can you repeat the question?
Yeah, sure. Just asking that.
No, it is breaking actually.
Yeah, sure. I hope you can hear me now.
Yes, Mr. Akella. You sound loud and clear. Please, repeat the question. Thank you.
The question is, assuming the price of crude comes down by some extent, over the next, say, three to six months, how do we sort of manage the risk that we might be sitting on high cost inventories at that point in time?
I think two ways to look at it. One is that we don't have to become greedy in hoarding the inventory, right? We will go as per our business plan based on what can be sold. We're not going to hoard the inventory. If even if war unwinds in three to six months, I'm saying we are not building inventory beyond Kharif, right? Kharif is something we want to protect. For Rabi we'll. I think, you know, I can tell you, and I don't know what other companies do. I have calls every morning. Every day we talk, right? We are almost back to a situation during COVID. Now we were doing calls from morning, you know, 8 A.M. to 8 P.M. We're into that situation. We are not.
We are building inventory which we think is right. We're not building excess inventory because that could be a good opportunity and a bad opportunity. We are very calibrated about what we buy, what we sell. We'll only buy what we can sell.
Understood, sir. That's clear. Just last quick thing. This liquidation of Plasto and Benzilla in the fourth quarter, was that one of the key contributors to this 14% volume growth that we saw in domestic formulations?
Out of that, Benzilla, I mean, you can say 80% of the problem is solved, very little problem left. Almost solved, right? Plasto was more dependent on the chili crop. The strips, the chili crop didn't get planted, commodities were low. Seems the first choice for chili farmers was Benzilla, you know, preference of the farmer. We are launching new products in those segments. At the same time, we are unwinding inventory completely.
Thank you so much, sir. All the best for the year ahead, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Riju with Antique Stock Broking. Please go ahead.
Yeah, hi sir. Hope I'm audible.
Yes.
My question regarding the inventory. If I look at your six numbers, I think inventory days are a bit higher. This is predominantly that we are building some inventory at a lower cost, maybe the pre-war scenario or during the year scenario to protect our margin going forward. How it is like, is it RM related or like a strategic inventory that we have already built?
No, no, sir. It is not related to what we built for the season. It is related to preparing for, I mean, this war thing was almost imminent right from the month of January, right? We didn't wait for war to happen. We did take some risk to build some inventory.
Yeah, understood. These are predominantly a RM inventory and maybe a low cost kind of inventory that you have built.
Absolutely.
Understood. Sir, second thing, if I look at in terms of, you know, in the current pricing of the few of the commodities. In your earlier remarks, you said that expecting a good crop in terms of maize and other crops. If I look at pricing of maize from the month of October, November, the prices are very low compared to the MSP prices. How do you see the impact? Like, are farmers going to, you know, stick to the maize crop or there will be some shift that will happen? If that happens, like what are the scenarios in terms of CT business and in terms of your CT business will get impacted?
I think, look, low and high has to be seen from the perspective of farmers makes per acre of money. Don't worry about commodity prices that much. I think at the end of the day, it'll be matter of relative economics. How much I can produce by growing a crop, how much it is going to cost and what price I can sell. To me, for their use, they have seen for a period of time. Crop is still very competitive to grow.
Understood. Crop prices might not impact significantly in terms of crop shifting, right?
Yes. I mean, it's again, I'm saying, for example, rice. I think a lot depend on global inventory buildup and what country allows to import and what country restricts. For example, India had a restriction on how much maize can be imported. We said we will not allow GM maize commodity, soybean, which is GM grown. I think there are a lot of other factors will play. I would say other than rice, inventory, global inventory is at the normal level.
Understood. Sir, in terms of CP business right now, we have done 15% kind of a growth in the domestic CP business. If you could, you know, clarify in terms of volume and the realization growth in the 15% growth that we have reported this quarter.
13% growth in which segment?
CP business that we have recorded this quarter.
No, no, crop protection. Where did we say 13%? Oh, you're saying B2C growth, right?
Correct.
Yeah. See, we have. When we say crop protection business, we primarily have, there's a soil and plant health, and there's also crop protection, and so these are the two major component. Now, this is B2C. Within that, there's a higher growth in soil and plant health relative to crop protection. I have been saying that, look, my focus is to sell more herbicide, more soil and plant health and more seed, right? Because disease sometimes because of moisture and all can come and go. You know, insects come and don't come, right? Actually, our focus segment have contributed more in terms of growth, if you see from that perspective.
Understood. Sir, if we remove that, you know, 27% kind of a growth in the SPA, how much will be our B2C CP business growth for this quarter?
It will be flat.
Okay. It will be flattish kind of a growth.
I mean, marginal growth. I mean, you can say marginal growth. Low single- digit. It won't be flat. It's still marginally positive.
Understood. Yeah. Thanks, sir. Thanks for clarifying all the questions.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Nitin Awasthi with InCred Capital. Please go ahead, sir.
Hello, sir. Just wanted to understand on your new venture, the aqua feed business, what is the current investments and the thought process behind this? Given that Tata in Maharashtra, that the Tata Group in Maharashtra does have expertise in freshwater fisheries with its hatchery business. Not business. It's a social commitment perspective. So that linkage and the basic thought process behind this business, where we are, what we seek to invest, where we're gonna invest. That, if you could outline.
Look, as part of Tata's strategy in agriculture, we did the whole mapping, and we identified this as an idea toward experiment, right? I think it's still at a experimental stage because we believe, you know, as economies grow, per capita income grows, you know, more animal origin protein becomes a preferred food. You know, the consumption of fish which can be grown inland. Even our prime minister keeps talking about, you know, mission so that, you know, we are not only dependent on ocean, we can also have more fish inland. I mean, look, this it still is a relatively smaller scale. It hasn't gone to a stage to start discussing how much we want to make investment.
I would like to see one more year, this year to say where I am able to take it and then start thinking of the strategy. Yes, it's an important segment we're trying to understand rather than trying to rush into the segment.
Understood. The current products in the market are completely outsourced?
Products are outsourced.
Understood, sir.
Similar to soil and plant health business, we incubated seven, eight , 10 years ago because when we sold Tata Chemicals bulk fertilizer business, we were left with some residual micronutrients, right? We said, "Okay, what do we do with this business?" We build this business. Now it has reached to a scale of, you know, to INR 50 crore plus. Now we are saying, "Okay, how do we invest more?" Because this we find it very exciting, right? I think aqua is probably where, you know, 5, 7 years ago, our soil and plant health business was. Probably one or two more cycles before we can say anything about it.
Understood, sir. Second question on-
I think, see, there's so much potential in everything, right? We can't do everything. It's a still understanding phase.
Understood, sir. Secondly, on the seed perspective, the whole industry has a lot of GE trials approved, including Rallis, and it's been going on for quite some time now. Given that the new policy of GE which has come out, which differentiates itself from GM regulation, do you see, what do you call, the traction in that segment increasing exponentially going ahead? Or do you still see hurdles in this segment picking up?
See, when I look at seed R&D, there are clearly two components. One is called genetics improvement, where you keep accessing genetics and start applying tools to improve the genetics to develop product faster. I think there we are doing everything which needs to be done. When it comes to GE, basically, it's not about GM crop now any longer. It's not about bringing gene from outside. The conversation is all about genetic gene editing. Gene editing is one space, I think, where while government has cleared the regulation, but the big global multinationals continue to hold patent rights, right? So we would rather initially, rather than trying to do everything in-house, we would rely on outside skills to get the job work done. Their technology is very advanced.
For example, you know, our cotton business is built on the foundation of BT technology.
Mm-hmm.
We are actually launching what you call Paryan, technology-led rice seed business, where there'll be a herbicide tolerance gene, and it'll be sold as a bundled product along with seed and, you know, herbicide. We would rather license those technologies rather than trying to invest 10 years on researching those technologies. Because global multinationals, they have disproportionate R&D on those areas. I think by spending small money and then for the sake of, you know, conversation, I can say I will do it, but I would rather prefer accessing those technologies, you know.
Understood, sir. Thank you.
Yeah. Thanks.
Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Darshita Shah with DSP Asset Management. We have lost the line of Ms. Darshita Shah. Promod, the next, that is Raj Kumar , Arc Investment. Please go ahead.
Yeah, bud, my question has been answered. Thank you very much.
Yes. Yes, please go ahead.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we take that as the last question and conclude the question and answer session on behalf of Rallis India Limited. That concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.
Thank you.