Good morning. It's Friday, and welcome to our Q2 presentation. On Fridays, we do one thing that is unique for us: we force everyone working for us to train. In a couple of slides, you will see an incredible quarter unfold in front of you, and one part of creating those results is our ability to create a culture, gathering a lot of different people with different backgrounds, and have them believing in one long-term dream. That is to inspire you that you can be a bit more, that you can reach whatever goal you have, and that the key enabler to help you do that is training, working out a bit more.
So every Friday, we decide that we close all the offices all around the world, which is currently, you know, not that many countries, but we will add more country as we grow older. 11 and 12, we work out together because we know that that's gonna benefit the business. By doing that, we will earn more money, and we will sell more. But first things first, Q2 was all about footwear integration. So we stood there after Q1. Our license partner in the Netherlands had just went bankrupt. That landed in our lap. We worked quickly together with some of the major shareholders, you know, some of the Board members, and of course, our Executive Management team. We decided this is gonna be the greatest opportunity that we have ever had for this brand. Let's take it over.
Let's integrate, knowing, of course, that the footwear category is huge, offering massive potential for further growth, but also enabling us to even quicker transform the brand from that beautiful, old, colorful underwear brand into a sports fashion brand. The decision was easy to make. Making it happen, however, was not as easy, and it would never, ever have unfolded as good as it did without the team. So of course, headed up by our Global Ops Director, Daniel Grohman, who simply turned out to be a wizard in driving this project into what can be described as nothing as a massive success. It took a while to sort all things out.
Yes, it meant some short-term discounts that you will see in our margins, but of course, year-to-date footwear growth of 35%, you know, Q2 footwear growth of 199% is just a very clear message to everyone that when it comes to handling challenges and things that was not planned, when it comes to integrate things into this great team that we're having, we are master in turning that into something even better. So as you can hear, looking at Q2, I'm just extremely proud over what we have accomplished, and it doesn't really only stop with footwear. If we just run through all of our categories, as you will see in a few slides, everything is really working for us right now. Yes, of course, stuff can be better.
Looking at the gross margin, while we have taken a hit, partly due to currencies working against us, a bit due to increased, you know, container and freight costs, but a lot it has to do with one-off discounts that we simply had to do, given that we took over an order book of footwear very, very late. And of course, we wanted the retailers to continue to get those products, helping them with additional discounts, they could sell that out within the season. That will change, of course, as we go forward. We believe that if you do footwear right, it could actually be a gross margin driver. Most likely, it will take a bit of time. Looking at the bottom line, it's a fairly strong Q2. It's ahead of last year.
We know from the past that Q2 is roughly a pretty challenging quarter for us in terms of making, you know, high profit numbers. But during the last couple of years, we've showed that we can also make profit in Q2, which is dominated by D2C business and not so much distribution and wholesale business. If you look at some of the highlights, just, you know, reminding all of you, okay, so where is this guy going? Where is this brand heading? And of course, one of the success factors is, perhaps not that I've been with the company now 10 years, but is that we have a very, very consistent, you know, long-term view in terms of what we want to create. We don't change direction. We simply keep on digging, even when things is working against us.
So our mission, of course, is to build a sports fashion brand inspiring people out there that training is too important just to give to those who wants to win Olympic gold medals. Training is for every one of us and a key facilitator to bring, you know, something more out of you, to become a better mother or father or a better friend or just living longer or perhaps laugh a bit more. You can win a gold medal as well. That's okay with us, but that's not the main purpose of what we want to do. Our long-term financial goal is to grow, of course, and to continue to be profitable. Our business strategy has been to really dig where we stand, but working with key categories, and now also footwear being included, to drive growth in all of our geographic markets.
And with that said, also, slowly then build a much stronger international presence, where our key focus is Germany on one hand and US on another. So running through a few of the numbers then. So first, of course, our brand. So as I've said many, many times before, we have two things that makes us truly unique. And one is that Jens, our CFO, is deciding to work for us and not somewhere else, and the other one is our brand. Those are our assets, and of course, the key is to make the most out of those two... . And looking at our brand, it's constantly developing in the right direction. Sometimes a bit slower than anticipated, or that I would wish for, but every quarter we're taking small, small steps and becoming stronger.
And some of the highlights from Q2 is that our unaided awareness is increasing dramatically in all the markets, meaning that if we would ask just a random consumer on the street, "Hey, make a list of sports brand." We want them, of course, to say Björn Borg immediately, but there's a couple of other brands that they usually say first. But Björn Borg is more frequently popping up on that list. Whilst on that list and asking, "Hey, do you know about Björn Borg? Would you like to buy stuff from them?" There we're really, really high already. And if you can only pick three brands from that list, in Sweden, we're number three. Looking at that, the purchase intent, so when you ask consumers, "Can you see them buying from us?" We can see that we're increasing on apparel, and we're maintaining, and actually also increasing on underwear.
And as you might have remembered, one of the challenges or potentially the risk back in 2015 and 2016 with transforming the brand into a sports brand, was that, well, what happens with the underwear category? Will you lose out on that? And what we said then, very confident, but not really knowing, of course, the future, was that we believe that building a strong brand, building a sports fashion brand, will actually drive underwear growth, and that turned out to be the truth. But also we can see that by building a strong performance brand, a strong apparel brand, a strong sports fashion brand, actually, people view our underwear collection and us as an underwear brand, even stronger. Very, very important. Looking at our growth, of course, it's a record quarter. We're up 30% versus last quarter. We never sold more in a quarter.
I don't think we ever grew as much in a quarter either, and of course, there's a number of things that are simply working our way. And, all of the countries, of course, consequently, is doing really, really well. And of course, the good thing is that, you know, Sweden and Netherlands, our biggest markets, are really, really flying, which is then showcasing that our ability to roll out new categories is really getting a strong foothold. Germany, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, is also showing strong growth numbers. The distributors in the quarter are, you know, somewhat, getting a bit back on track, but again, that's our... Not our main focus. We believe in interacting directly to our consumers, either through partners like Stadium and XXL, or through our own channels, driving our own business and being in control over how we would want to build the brand.
That is key for us. Looking at the different channels, of course, we're growing all over the place, so wholesale is +50%. You know, own e-com is +9%, so a bit slower, but if you look closely, of course, profitability is a lot higher in Q2 versus last year. Own retail is growing a lot. Comp growth is 4%. Distributors is growing, but on a very low number. And here, you know, we've talked about our idea of moving the brand online, and that started already in 2018, 2019, and of course, a bigger and bigger share of our business is coming online. However, of course, I think it's worth mentioning, again, you need to have a strong balance here.
We know that consumers still want to go out in the physical stores, you know, touch and feel the stuff, see what you can only experience in real life. Together, of course, you know, driving a strong foothold online. Of course, the key for us is to balance the two. We want to grow both. Of course, looking at the categories, as you can imagine, you know, this has been one of the best quarters in terms of category growth. I think that, of course, footwear is one thing to celebrate, but as you recall, we've been talking about apparel over, and over, and over again. You know, a few years ago, I said that our target is to grow year-on-year 35%, and many were laughing. Now, you know, we're up 43% in the quarter.
You know, year- to- date, we're +35% when it comes to sports apparel, and of course, that's the key category so far in terms of transforming the brand into a bigger arena. Of course, adding footwear will only fuel that up. Of course, as already mentioned, you know, footwear is up +199%, but again, here, we're not really comparing apple versus apple. We took over, you know, volumes from markets we didn't have last year, but still, of course, if you take that out, we still see a strong footwear growth in all of our markets. Of course, with that said, looking at bottom line, well, things could always be better, and I'm sure that Jens will, you know, tell you all about that, even though, of course, there's a lot of victories also when you look at that. So, Jens, why don't you show me the money?
Will do.
Thank you.
Thank you, Henrik, and what a fantastic morning. I woke up this morning thinking, "I cannot wait to show the world these numbers and this report." It's simply fantastic, and we're so proud. So looking at the bottom line, the gross margin is, I'd say quite good, considering that we just integrated footwear, as you heard from Henrik just a few minutes ago. It took a little hit this quarter, but we're expecting that to come back, as we just heard, so, fantastic. The bottom line or the EBIT margin, or EBIT number is very high, very strong compared to previous years. And following, obviously, the net income as well, showing good numbers for being a second quarter.
As you know, our second quarter is dominated by D2C, and hence not so strong as other quarters, but comparing to Q2 previously, we're showing a very strong growth. If we look at the balance sheet, we are a very solid company. The equity is strong. It's at 46%, showing that we can balance also the cash or the liquidity situation when integrating a category such as footwear. Looking at the net debt, yes, it's increasing a little bit compared to the two previous years. However, if we go back in history, we see that we are on a very good level when it comes to our debt situation.
The working capital is super important for us, and a KPI that we follow very, very closely. We have an internal target of being around 20% of the rolling gross sales, 12 months, and that's exactly where we end up when we close Q2. Looking back, we are going slightly downwards. The trend is going down, even though we now are increasing the number of pieces in our warehouse. So the working capital is looking good. We're in control of our cash situation, and the balance sheet is super, super strong. So why should you believe in Björn Borg, let's say? Well, first of all, you should believe in what Henrik just said. You should believe in the culture.
If you wanna see what we're all about, well, join us any Friday. Just give me a call, send me an email, and you can come train with us on Fridays at 11:00 A.M. Then you will see what this company is all about. That's number one, I would say. However, we also have a few items listed on the screen in front of you. So we have a proven track record of profitable growth since back 10 years ago. The strategy that we sent out also 10 years ago is showing that we will grow, and we will do it in a profitable way. The value creation, so we can look at the stock market, comparing to other peers in the market, we are outperforming basically all of them.
If you're interested in high dividends, well, yes, that's also Björn Borg. We have shown, going back in history, that the dividend payments that we have delivered over the years is quite high. As I just mentioned before, the balance sheet is strong. We have the equity ratio, and the net debt ratios are very, very good. We are way below our targets that we've set out towards the banks, for instance. The management team has been around for a long time and have a good track record, and has also become some of my very, very close friends. So that's showing that this is a super company with a very, very strong culture that I already talked about before. Well, we've done all the investments.
Back in 2019, we launched what we call the System Excellence Project, basically replacing everything. We had several warehouses, we had several ERP systems, cash systems, BI systems, and I don't know how many systems we had. But when we launched a huge project and consolidating those into one of each, basically. So there's really no large investments for us coming our way. I mean, we've taken all that work done already. So we are off for a good continuation, I would say. So with that, I wish you all a very good Friday. Henrik?
Brilliant, brilliant. So let's, let's wrap it up then, and thanks for, you know, listening, guys, and calling in. So, a nd I guess we shouldn't, you know, overplay Q2. We know that we've been around for a while, so of course, some quarters are really, really strong, others are a bit weaker. You know, this is all about, you know, having a long-term perspective, and of course, you know, making sure that every quarter is taking us a bit slower to our end goal. Some quarters, you might take two or three steps closer to that. Some other quarters, you might take a step back. But it's really having that long-term approach, that, you know, value creation takes time. Looking at the quarter, of course, there's many, many highlights. So the brand is continuing to get stronger and stronger.
You know, looking at our channels, you know, wholesale is really, you know, driving a fantastic growth. But also, of course, we see e-com and comp growth in our retail stores, so of course the retail stores are working really, really well as well. All of that indicate that the brand is really, really working, as we have a strong traction with the end consumers, really picking stuff up for us. We hear rumors, and of course, I can feel that myself, that, you know, the situation around you as a consumer is not as good as it was, you know, three, four, five years ago, perhaps, and we have less money to spend. And we read about that, but we can't really see that impacting us currently. And of course, we are a small brand, so even if the entire market is declining, we could still grow.
And last, of course, you know, we have an exceptionally strong momentum in sports apparel, and that's been one of our key focuses, of course, you know, since we launched, you know, the Northern Star in our business plan, and the idea, or dream, if you will, to turn then this underwear brand into a sports fashion brand. And of course, the key sign, if you will, traffic light, that will indicate for you, looking at us, whether we do that successfully, is definitely then sports apparel growth. But, with that said, you know, a strong quarter, there's a lot of stuff that could have been done a lot better. We need to work even more on our gross margin. It's declining, and for clear reasons, and many of that is one-off effects, but of course, we need to work even harder on that.
We need to make sure, of course, that we invest everything very carefully so we can continue to drive, you know, profitable growth and not growth at any price. And of course, that journey will never continue. But at the end of the day, you know, it comes down to simply really understanding what makes us unique. And again, to repeat myself, we need to continue to build a strong brand. We need to continue to develop everyone choosing to work for Björn Borg, so they become their best version of themselves. And the combination of the two, that will, you know, unleash, you know, massive amount of potential. And of course, then no ceiling is too high or, you know, no goal is too big if we accomplish to continue doing that.
So, with that said, you know, thank you for listening in, for joining us, and for believing in us. As Jen said, you know, join us on a, on a sports hour. Many of our biggest shareholders is actually joining. I think one is coming, next Friday, so we're looking forward to that. But I'm sure, Hjalmar has a few questions before we hang up here. Hjalmar, is that correct?
Yes, let's.
Fire away.
So first, I guess just relating to the footwear integration, could you just describe how the progress has been? Has it been in accordance with your expectations? Has it been better? Just on a wider scale, how do you perceive the Q2 development?
Well, the quick answer is, better or worse, depending a bit on who you're asking. So when we, of course, looked at this, during Q1, when we got the news that they first, of course, went into Chapter 11, that later on then became a full-scale bankruptcy. We couldn't talk to the licensed partners, but instead, we had to talk to liquidators and lawyers. Of course, we were concerned that this will, you know, take a hit. And of course, because of that, we issued then a press release saying that there's probably a SEK 5 million EBIT risk here. However, and also short term, a bit of a, you know, sales risk. However, long term, of course, we see great potential, adding value throughout the entire P&L. And in Q1, we saw exactly that.
So of course, we took a hit in top line. We lost about SEK 10 million in footwear sales, I think SEK 13.5 million even, perhaps. But we thought that we will catch up. That we would have catch up this quick, I didn't think that. I mean, even though I'm an optimistic guy, I thought that it would take a bit more time. But we simply, you know, had a very, very dedicated team that spent a lot of hours doing, whatever it took to get hold of all these products that were sitting then with the liquidators, on boats, in warehouses, in harbors, getting their hands on that, making sure that we connected to these customers that we never spoke to before.
And of course, the price of that was adding, you know, additional discounts, so they would accept very, very late orders to support them in selling this stuff out, so they can receive new footwear now when the new season starts. So the quick answer, you know, better than anticipated. But again, just to highlight, this is perhaps not even the beginning of the beginning of footwear. It's gonna take time to rebuild this category so it can fuel, you know, a profitable growth going forward.
Yes, yes. And, and naturally, there are, as we've spoken about before, long-term prospects in this. But I just, l ike, how do you feel leaving the quarter? You mentioned these discounts and the margin pressure. Should we expect those in the coming two quarters as well, or how do you feel this margin pressure developing?
Well, so, we try to avoid, of course, you know, getting into, you know, a forecasting exercise. But, what we've said, you know, mid long term, we, we should be able to work towards, you know, a 55% gross margin. That's, you know, a clear aim. And of course, there's a lot of things impacting that. One, of course, is currencies, that we don't really control. The other, of course, is how we are working with our different categories and how we're supporting our different channels.
But looking at what we can control, of course, we are confident that long term, we could, you know, accomplish much, much higher margins than what we saw in Q2. That's very, very clear. And then, of course, how quick that will go, it might take a bit of time. Let's see. We don't think that we will have any big one-off discounts that we saw in Q2 going forward, because, of course, now we're controlling the entire supply chain flow much better, than what we did in Q2.
So of course, that will disappear. But then again, it might be other things that is impacting, of course, the, you know, the margin. You know, high share of wholesale would drag it down a bit. We're closing our retail stores. That would also drag down the margin a bit. We continue, of course, to invest in on e-com. That will lift the margin. And midterm, long term, we see that both as apparel and predominantly footwear, there's room to improve the margins on those categories. That will hopefully then enable us to lift the gross margin to closer to 55%.
Thank you. And if you look at your D2C segments, how do you feel the campaign pressure has been this summer with regards to campaign intensity? How do you feel that your competitors are acting in this environment?
No, but I think the general feeling we're having is that sort of the stock situation is a bit better for most. So, you know, last year, we saw there was a lot of stock in the market for all of the different brands and with almost all of the retailers. But I think most of them have done a fairly good, you know, cleaning up work, and then, of course, depending on which category you're looking into. We know, for example, you know, like bikes, you know, and a few other categories, they're still struggling a bit with a lot of inventories in the market. But overall, we see that it's slightly more healthy than in the past. From our perspective, you know, our NOS stock product has been sold out.
We have strong sort of reorder requests, which indicate that the brand and the market is, you know, having a fairly good momentum. But again, you know, we shouldn't overplay that we continue to grow because we're still small. We do see when we look at, you know, consumer studies, that, you know, the consumers still are a bit worried. There's still, you know, less money in their wallet. There's a lot of concerns also happening around us that makes you a bit hesitant. So, it's clear that, you know, the financial surroundings is not optimal. But what we said all along is that we're so small, it doesn't matter. We will grow, whether it's tough times or great times.
That's, that's our ambition, and we do believe as well that even when things are really, really tough, you know, you could, you could always, you know, afford a small piece of garment like this, you know, recycled polyester piqué that is just fantastic. If that's gonna help you work out a bit more, you know, that would be the best gift you can ever give to yourself. So, I think that's the upside of being small. You can always grow.
Yes, thank you. And you, you spoke on the need for both stores and online sales, of course, but looking at the D2C, the own stores, could you elaborate a bit on the strategy here? Could we see store openings looking forward, or how do you see the market for the own stores?
No, but, so what we've said, you know, I think it was 2019 already, we concluded that there's other people better in driving, you know, concept and full-price stores. So we believe that we, as a brand, need to be in physical retail, whether it's through a shop-in-shop or with a nice installation. But we believe that, you know, some of the wholesalers, you know, like Stadium, for example, they, they do that much better than us. So the key is really to be their best partner. So how can we support them so we can have, you know, physical retail space with them that already have a strong retail foothold, and not opening up, you know, full-price stores?
So we took the decision to close them down just before, you know, the pandemic, and I think that was a very, you know, the right decision. It was massively loss-making. It required a lot of, you know, people, and of course, a lot of focus from the management team. So what we will see going forward is, you know, closing down potentially one or two more stores, because that's what we now have left in terms of full-price stores, but of course, maintaining our outlets. So we still believe in the outlet business. It's one way of getting rid of excess stock from our own e-com, for example. And also, we see that the outlet as a store format is working really, really well.
So as a consumer, you really wanna go out to those outlet villages, spend the entire day, you know, have a nice lunch, look at all the different brands, and of course, you wanna buy something. You wanna feel like you're making a great deal, so of course, we wanna be there as well. And we might as well open up one or two more outlet stores going forward. But it all depends, of course, on where they're located and of course, the agreement that we can conclude with the landlord.
Thank you. And on sports apparel, naturally, you have a strong position there right now. How do you feel? What is the current view of the competitive environment, and how is it developing in 2024? How do you feel competitors are acting? Can you elaborate a bit on this?
Yeah, it was nice to say that we have a strong position. I'd probably say that internally, we feel that we have a strong position, but of course, we're very, very small still, so we're not even perhaps a player to consider if you're not working for Björn Borg or if you're a nice retailer with us, of course. But we have a massive momentum with sports apparel. That's clear. And in Q2, isolated, our biggest category online was sports apparel, and, you know, that's o f all the victories that we have celebrated so far this year, I think that's really showcasing something. That was something that many, many, for a very long time, would never happen. So it's clear that, you know, this idea of building sports apparel, building training, is really working for us.
With that said, underwear is also growing in the quarter. So one would have thought that, "Yeah, how hard is it to be bigger in apparel if underwear is declining?" But that's not the case. If we look outside, of course, there's still a lot of brands that are in the marketplace, big, small. What we can conclude, though, is that a few of them that was growing with tremendous, you know, pace just a few years ago, they're slowing down a bit. A few are struggling a bit with profitability and cash flow. So I think probably what we will see is a bit of a consolidation also on the brand side. But again, you know, I think our competitors, those that we compete against, I don't think really is other sports brands.
You know, we're here because we wanna inspire you to, you know, take a break today, Hjalmar, and join us for the sports hour. That's what we wanna do, and if you wanna wear, you know, a Björn Borg product, that would be great. I think that's the idea. So, you know, rather than spending, you know, money on another app or, you know, buying an energy drink or whatever you plan to do, spend it on us, and hopefully you will connect with us, and you will feel that you wanna be a part of this whole idea of, "Hey, I'm gonna work out," knowing, of course, that before that workout, there is a bit of resistance. That's for me as well. But after the workout, you know, that's the feeling that money can't buy.
Thank you. And then finally, on the marketing spend, do you feel satisfied with the spend levels you have now? Do you feel happy with the yield that you get on the ad investments currently?
Yeah, well, we've never spent more, so, you know, that's, that's good. So it's also going up, but of course, that's, you know, a decision that we took. Again, we believe that you need to invest in two things. Of course, that's the brand, and then that's the people, and the combination of two will do great things. So of course, you know, I think year to date, I think we've probably invested SEK 10 million more. I'm looking at Jens now, I think, you know, SEK 10 million more than last year. But we believe that that's key, not to grow in Q2 or perhaps not even Q3, but to really build, you know, a strong brand and to give this great brand a fair chance of becoming, you know, a global sports brand.
We simply need to invest a lot of money into the brand. That will drive profitable growth going forward. So, I'm super happy with the way we're allocating our money. I think we do a good job in terms of making sure that we get, you know, a lot of stuff back for the investments. But of course, it's, you know, it's impacting our P&L short term. So if we would have invested the same as last year, well, we would have done almost SEK 20 million in EBIT. Of course, one day, potentially, we could, you know, reduce the marketing spend. But I think the timing right now, really, is to reinvest into marketing and really build, you know, something that is gonna be, you know, a long-term value creation. That's the, that's the plan.
Thank you. Then just one final question.
Yes.
On the footwear integration and the product mix, if you, if you dare to dream, what is your vision for the future regarding product mix, and what, what would you see maybe looking three years ahead?
No, but you know, I think, you know, long term, if we do this right, then, you know, half of what we sell will be footwear. 50%. If we do this right.
All right. Thank you so much for answering our questions today.
Thank you, Hjalmar. Thank you, guys. See you soon again. Don't work out today, then you work out tomorrow or Sunday, but ideally, you do it today together with us. So have a great Friday.