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Apr 7, 2020

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the virtual media roundtable, sigma research on natural catastrophes and Swiss Re's climate change strategy conference call and live webcast. I am Shari, the conference call operator. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Mrs. Alexa Winnick, Communication Business Partner. Please go ahead.

Alexa Winnick
Communication Business Partner, Swiss Re

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our virtual media roundtable on Swiss Re's climate change strategy and the new sigma study, Natural Catastrophes in Times of Economic Accumulation and Climate Change Risk. You've all received, or you should have received the materials associated with the latest research, and that includes the press release. As noted on the files themselves, they are embargoed until publication, which will be tomorrow, Wednesday, at around 10:00 A.M. Central European Time. Our speakers will each briefly present, and then we'll open the lines to your questions. We'll start with questions from those dialing in, and then we'll move on to written questions from those joining solely via the webcast. Many thanks for joining us. We look forward to an engaging back and forth.

I'll hand it over to Edi Schmid, the Chairman of the Swiss Re Institute and Swiss Re's Group Chief Underwriting Officer, to begin the presentation this morning. Edi?

Edi Schmid
Chairman of the Swiss Re Institute and Group Chief Underwriting Officer, Swiss Re

Good morning, a warm welcome to this virtual media roundtable. Thank you very much for joining us, particularly during these exceptional times. I hope everyone has a safe and comfortable place to work, as many of us at Swiss Re from home. I struggled a bit to dial in, I managed. I'm really glad to welcome all of you. I'm Edi Schmid, I'm the Chairman of the Swiss Re Institute and also Swiss Re's Group Chief Underwriting Officer. I'm joined today by Jérôme Haegeli, our Group Chief Economist, and also by Martin Bertogg, who is heading our Catastrophe Perils unit. Actually, tomorrow we'll publish the Swiss Re Institute sigma report on Nat Cat and man-made disasters, and we're very happy to already discuss the main findings of the report with you today.

For those maybe not familiar with this report, this is one of sigma's annual flagship publications, and this is already its 52nd edition. Of course, little did we think we'd be releasing this year's report at such unprecedented times when the entire world is in the grips of a pandemic. The COVID crisis has been dominating our lives like no other event in many years. Personally, I guess like many of you, I've been disheartened by the many human tragedies from this crisis, but I've equally been touched by the many acts of mutual support and care to deal with this crisis. As a company, Swiss Re is very well prepared to deal with a pandemic like this. There's obviously still uncertainty around the financial impact, but we deem it absolutely manageable. Swiss Re went into this crisis with a very strong balance sheet. We have a prudent asset allocation.

We have put in place hedges on our assets, so we're very confident we can weather these storms in good shape. Also from an operational perspective, I'm pleased to see how we can continue to run our business around the world as our teams have found ways to use our communications technology and work together, also with our clients. Well, in all this, it's easy to forget that there was a time before COVID-19 when other urgent issues were still in the headlines. Our mission of making the world more resilient calls on us precisely not to lose sight also of other big risks. Even though it's more gradual than a rapidly spreading global pandemic, climate change is one of the most pervasive threats facing us, our planet, our society, and our economy.

It's also one of the biggest risks for our industry. It is because of this strategy we are committed to apply sustainability criteria across all our activities, be it in underwriting, in asset management, but also in our own operations. When it comes to climate change, we focus on three areas. The first one is the focus of today, mainly it's around physical climate change risk and climate change adaptation. Obviously, our natural catastrophe business is exposed to the risk of climate change. That's why we're devoting the Nat Cat sigma to this theme of climate change. The report shows that climate change is increasingly visible in our loss figures and evident as a major risk driver, combined with the fact that we are continuing to see urban expansion in highly exposed areas.

We are literally living, building, working, and ensuring in the very locations most at risk, be it along the coasts, the floodplains, or in near forested wildland. We believe the insurance industry and Swiss Re can play a big part in developing resilient strategies, and help communities recover after disasters. Just to give a few numbers, 2019 alone, our P&C reinsurance business paid out claims over $11 billion, and $2 billion of these claims were related to natural catastrophe losses, helping many families and businesses to recover after adverse events. To provide coverage for natural catastrophe risk, we obviously need to have deep risk knowledge around these risks. Since decades, we have invested in research and development to be on top of these risks and develop our own proprietary risk models around natural catastrophe and also climate change.

Just as a little anecdote, I started my career in this company in 1991, and it was actually one of my first little projects to assess how climate change may impact the frequency and severity of European winter storms and hurricanes in the North Atlantic. The second area of focus when it comes to climate change is around reducing carbon emissions. That's what we called transition to net-zero. It's clear we cannot simply adapt endlessly to the growing risk of climate change. We also need to tackle the source, which means reducing carbon emissions. Maybe here there's a parallel to COVID-19. The earlier we take action, the more we can keep the risk manageable in the longer term and avert the most damaging consequences. We have to take drastic action to bring down emissions to net-zero by mid-century and pave the way for a net-zero future.

Swiss Re, with our businesses, we are committed to be net-zero on our operations side already by 2030, and both on our asset investment side and the underwriting side by 2050. Just to give a few examples when it comes to underwriting, for example, we are very active in providing renewable energy solutions, insurance and reinsurance. We are leading player in, for example, the offshore wind development, but also in solar power. Also as another example, we introduced in 2018 a thermal coal policy, so we do not any longer provide insurance and reinsure for businesses which main business is around thermal coal. On the asset side, we were an early mover to move all our assets 100% almost to ESG, environmental, social, and governance criteria.

We were an initiator of the UN-convened Net-Zero Asset Owner Alliance, so we are committed to net-zero emissions on our investment portfolio by 2050. Last but not least, also in our own operations, we're committed to net-zero by 2030. We have been CO2 neutral actually for a long time, but clearly we concluded this is not enough. The focus is on business travel and renewable energy sources. What we'll do in the future that for every ton of CO2 that cannot be avoided, another ton actually will have to be removed from the atmosphere and stored permanently. As of next year, we'll ramp up an internal carbon levy. We have an incentive to fly less and generate funds so we can purchase carbon removal certificates, as clearly carbon capture has to be part of the long-term answer.

Last but not least, our third pillar is around partnering with clients to find solutions to mitigate and adapt to climate change risk. We obviously cannot deal with this in isolation. Together with our clients and partners in the insurance industry, in other industries and the public sector, we try to come up with solutions. I can hardly remember any interaction with external stakeholders where climate change has not been a topic over the last two years. A particular area of focus for us is to close protection gap around Nat Cat and climate risk. A point in time is flood risk, where there's still a huge protection gap, where we use our risk knowledge, our proprietary modeling capabilities to bring this to insurance companies so they can provide easily accessible and affordable flood protection to their policy holders based on modern technology.

That's why we're devoting this year's Nat Cat sigma to the theme of climate change. As we launch the new sigma publication highlighting the physical impact of climate change on our Nat Cat business, we are very much seeing this in the bigger context of our climate change and sustainability strategy. We strongly believe that as a global reinsurer, we can play a leading role in driving climate change action with an impact far beyond our industry. With this, let me now hand over to Jérôme Haegeli, our Chief Economist, who will give you the top-line view of the sigma findings. Jérôme, over to you.

Jérôme Haegeli
Chief Economist, Swiss Re

Thank you very much, Edi. Also warm welcome from my side. This is Jérôme Haegeli speaking. We are on slide three, and to our Nat Cat sigma insights, as Edi Schmid just mentioned before, key focus of this year is the role of climate change. Last year's topic was on secondary peril. This is still very much important, also in the context of climate change. In terms of the Nat Cat losses as in 2019 and as reported in the sigma reports, three key points. First, we had overall lower industry losses in 2019. The 10-year average was $67 billion. In 2019, we had Nat Cat insured losses of $52 billion. Following two costly back-to-back years for natural disaster in 2017 and 2018, 2019 definitely was much lower than 10-year average, same as the two-year averages as you can see on this slide.

Second, the key events were in Japan, the typhoons, as well in Australia. The wildfires, which were the market focus, Martin Bertogg will speak about this later on. Third, and most importantly, key drivers are climate change as well as the economic developments, urbanization, and we will go into that shortly. The rising losses from secondary perils, as well as latest research on primary perils, clearly show that climate change is an amplifier. On climate change, 2019, as you know, was the second warmest year on record. There is a real sense of urgency that we have also in our report on our sigma analysis, that we need to take climate action, and we need to take climate action now worldwide in all sectors for the benefit of society and also to build further economic resilience.

On the economic developments, as we show in the sigma report, the human activities, both GDP and urbanization, are three drivers for the rising insured losses while climate change is an amplifier. What is really needed is also the industry needing to tackle how the extreme weather risk is changing to have a really comprehensive analysis. Let's dig a little bit deeper in the next slide. This is as an economist on slide four, this is really my favorite chart in the sigma growth. What you see here in the graph on the left-hand side, you see the global economic losses for Nat Cat. These are economic losses, not insured losses. The economic losses from 1980 till 2018. The gray line is the simulation with historical global Nat Cat data for the physical damage to show the economic losses if countries had today's GDP level.

Not the GDP level at point of time in the past, but today's GDP level to really normalize the data and to see actually how does economic development and urbanization impact the data. The blue line is the economic losses at current GDP and price type data at the specific times of the events. If you normalize the data with the gray line, what do you see? You clearly see that normalizing the data at current GDP data, you get a really different picture. Nat Cat economic losses would have been significantly higher in the past already if countries had the same GDP as of today. This is not to say that climate change doesn't have an effect. Climate change has an effect. It is an amplifier, but we need to have a differentiated picture.

Economic development and urbanization, as clearly highlighted in our sigma report, needs to be part of a comprehensive analysis. In terms of past events, quite insightful if you look at the 1992 Hurricane Andrew. If Hurricane Andrew, which was one of the most costly hurricanes in U.S. history, were to happen today, as you know, it happened in 1992. If it were to happen today, the economic losses at today's levels would be five times as high. This is just to underline the importance of urbanization and economic development. To really sum up on the next slide, and you see here the key drivers for the rising weather-related losses. The key drivers, they are the urbanization economic growth, which we have just highlighted.

Second, obviously, these are also the insurance penetration, and if you look at the protection gaps globally, but especially those in emerging markets when it comes to Nat Cat events, Edi Schmid alluded to that, there's a great need to increase further insurance penetration. Third key driver for the driving and rising weather-related losses is definitely climate change. Bottom line, we need to take the economic development into account into having a comprehensive analysis. Urbanization is really key, and on the urbanization, I just wanted to share with you one amazing statistic. If you look at urbanization and the pace of urbanization, fact is that the world builds an entire New York City area every month for the next 40 years.

Clearly, urbanization, economic development, together with the climate change, will be a core driver for the rising weather-related losses that we are likely to see again with growth as well as with climate change amplifying these events. With this, I'm really happy to hand over to Martin Bertogg. Thank you. Martin, to you.

Martin Bertogg
Head Catastrophe Perils, Swiss Re

Thank you, Jérôme. I'm heading off into what makes 2019 now a special learning event also for us. Some effects of climate change are extremely evident already today. It's the warmer average temperatures, which are not debated anymore. We have rising sea levels, which are measured all over the globe, where we have oceans. We have melting ice caps and glaciers. We have these heat waves hitting us quite globally, more frequently than before. There's some erratic rainfall patterns here and there. Let's say more weather extremes generally. Now, what does that mean then for natural disasters and insurance, as a higher temperature itself is not yet a natural disaster. 2019 provided a few learnings again, and I'm picking here three specific examples. They are also discussed more in depth in our study being released tomorrow.

Starting with the most obvious, the most tangible one, which is influenced or made much more likely by climate change today, that's the Australia bushfires, which started well in 2019 but only ended in 2020. This has been the longest-ever bushfire season in Australia, I think everyone's aware of and all this news coverage coming from there. It's the most land which ever got burned. It's the most houses ever got burned down to the ground, also the costliest for the insurance industry. $1.5 billion has been paid there to also helping to recover. The insurance cover has been quite complete there, that's possibly the good news despite the big extent of that specific catastrophe. There important to note, climate is one factor to this being more likely to happen.

The other one is what Jérôme alluded to is urbanization, or in this case more the urban sprawl, people living or choosing to live closer to the wilderness are absolutely important to make this happen. Similarly, we had catastrophes or learnings 2017 and 2018 in California. Also, the urban sprawl eventually is a key reason for having these large damages then to our society and also to insurance companies. It's not only about climate change in this angle, also finding a different way on how to live sustainably close to the wilderness. That's one learning corner where climate change is most tangible. We have the typhoons in Japan. Clearly, for the insurance industry, these have been the biggest events, and an event also being a learning opportunity.

Insured losses of $15 billion have been covered there, most notably in the typhoons Hagibis and Faxai, both of quite similar size affecting the mainland of Japan. There's two learnings we've taken away and discussed also in the report. The first one kind of being maybe the less spectacular is that Japan is an island, or is a group of islands, which has always been exposed to typhoons. There was a lucky period since 1991. There hasn't been any strong typhoon hitting Japan. A few smaller ones, but then 2018 and 2019 now in particular, they came back. Jebi in 2018, Hagibis and Faxai, they served as a strong reminder that there's a high typhoon risk in Japan, which nearly got forgotten. That's not climate change per se. There's a second learning which these typhoons have been bringing along, and that's in particular Typhoon Hagibis.

Typhoon Hagibis was less remarkable from a wind speed perspective, but was very remarkable from a rainfall component. Enormous rain coming down. Also not completely unseen in the past in Japan. Right in the '60s, there were some typhoons with heavy rainfalls, and a lot of flood defenses have been built post these events in the '60s. Actually also with some good success. The metropolitan area of Tokyo got more or less spared from the impact of the torrential rain due to the flood protection, but not the rest. The more outskirt regions of the greater Tokyo metropolitan area got affected quite heavily by severe flooding. What this tells is also learning that the human mitigation measures can be very effective and are extremely key to also monitor when looking at the risk landscape on top or even masking sometimes climate change effects.

The last learning I'd like to pick up or showcase is the Cyclone Idai in Mozambique, which probably many of us don't have on our radar anymore. A tiny event affecting an area which is not that much covered by news. The insured losses speak a story there with very little insurance cover in Mozambique at the time, while the economic losses were still quite considerable. In this case, clearly urbanization a key factor, the city being built very close to the ocean coast, no protection measures or hardly any protection measures, nature being cut back also close to the coast, exposing these urban areas completely to this windstorm happening. Again, the human factor beyond climate change favoring some of these events being a key one to observe.

As I mentioned, all these three examples, I have been careful to not say it's climate change causing them, as none of these events has a climate change trademark to it. That's not mentioned anywhere. Climate change makes some of these effects much more likely to happen. When it comes to wildfire, it becomes more tangible when it comes to hurricanes or typhoons, these big storm events, climate change is still masked where the urban impact often is a more important or the urbanization impact human development is a more important factor changing this risk landscape. What all these three events serve for us as an industry is to make a point. It's not a static risk landscape. It's a dynamic picture. Year-on-year, this changes.

Urban sprawl, as Jérôme was mentioning, one city of the size of New York coming in addition, that means something on that risk landscape on top of climate change. That's the big learning we are also discussing through the whole sigma study, that these dynamics have various factors and in terms, if we move on to the next slide, Alexa. Quite a symbolic slide that us in general as human beings, but also the insurance industry, the typical way looking at these risks from natural perils and disasters, looking backwards, taking an average of a longer-term historical observation period as done here with temperature regimes on this slide. It's quite obvious if you take there the dividing line from today and the future, that in this future, depending on the climate adaptation paths we take, there might be quite different outcomes on temperature.

There's also different outcomes in terms of ongoing urbanization. It's being forward-looking rather than backward-looking in the industry, which you might think is standard, but that's the learning. That's why we have to do considerably more to challenge this paradigm that the past is the best measure for the future. Climate change is clearly a very important variable in this mix to make the future look different from the past. Why is this all important? Alexa, if you move on to the next slide. Why does it matter if eventually if the insurance industry gets the risk assessment right? It's all about the sustainability of that business model. What we show here in this chart is what we term the protection gap.

Over the last decades, it's illustrated on how much economic total loss occurred in our sigma monitoring studies compared to how much of that has been covered by insurance protection, by insurance cover in place. The latter is quite significant, but clearly there is a gap. If you look at the last decade, there's about $1,600 billion of economic losses, an enormous figure over these 10 years. Still $600 billion of that, also an enormous figure covered by insurance industry, but only about a third. That one third remained quite a bit the constant over the history, despite insurance picking up at significant levels. If you just compare already the decade before the last one, we were maybe roughly about half of the level of today.

There's still lots to do to bring insurance protection to our small commercial entities, to individuals to increase their resilience on the financial side, but also to close the protection gap. For that purpose, to stay on top here and have a sustainable business model, understanding these risks from the forward-looking perspective, including in particular climate change as well, is absolutely paramount for the industry to survive and make it a successful business model also down the road. With this, I stop my few learnings.

Alexa Winnick
Communication Business Partner, Swiss Re

Many thanks to all the speakers. At this point, we're going to move into the Q&A part of the call today. As I mentioned, we'll start with those on the line. I believe Shari, the conference call operator, will be taking that on. I hand it to you, Shari.

Operator

There are no questions from the phone at the moment.

Alexa Winnick
Communication Business Partner, Swiss Re

In that case, we have received a few questions from a participant on the webcast. His name is, I have to read it out, of course, because he wrote them, Dennis Dylba from Berenberg. He wrote, This just seems to be a question to anyone who'd like to field it. You write that weather risks are still insurable under certain measures. What time frame are you assuming?

Martin Bertogg
Head Catastrophe Perils, Swiss Re

Maybe I give you the start, Martin speaking, as this is close to my mandate also within the company to ensure that insurability remains there. I believe it's referring to just my last comments to stay on a forward-looking perspective. Right now, the sigma is also elaborating that we don't see ourselves from a climate change perspective having reached a tipping point. Changes are not dramatic from one year to the next year. There are changes, not dramatic kind of endangering the sustainability of the insurance business model. As long as we can follow that trend, we have to actively, insurability is not at risk.

Clearly, there's some areas in the world that's particularly close to the sea coast where sea level rise, which is the most tangible hazard factor, will make some of these areas uninhabitable unless human beings are taking some precautionary measures. There's a discussion in the same study about what the Netherlands has been doing over the last, not decades, but even centuries in protecting them from the sea, but now also from the increasing sea level. For the insurance industry, it's important to not partner but be in lockstep with what humanity is also doing beyond just financial risk transfer to protect the most exposed areas. In general, insurability right now, let's say in the next decade, we don't see at risk at all. We've not reached any of these tipping points where the nature dramatically changed from one year to the next.

Alexa Winnick
Communication Business Partner, Swiss Re

Thank you, Martin. We also have another question. How can Swiss Re support the transition to a low-carbon world? Could you please elaborate on this a little more? Once again, this is sort of open. I don't know, Edi, if you want to comment on this.

Edi Schmid
Chairman of the Swiss Re Institute and Group Chief Underwriting Officer, Swiss Re

I'm happy to go first and give a few directions, what we try to do to help the world move to a low-carbon environment. First, as I pointed out in my introductory comments, it's important to apply this on all parts of our business, and that's why we have embedded it in our sustainability strategy. Again, if you look at the underwriting area, we can, for example, support new technologies to move to more low-carbon energy productions, like ensuring wind farms, solar, maybe in the future, also carbon capture, just to find insurance solutions to help these new technologies to grow and more shift to energy production that is carbon neutral. Then it's important also on the asset side, as I pointed out, we have moved to ESG criteria for quite a while.

Via our investment decisions, we can also make sure that the economies are accelerating to move to a low-carbon environment. Then it's also in the operational area that we make sure that our own operational footprint is getting even quicker to a net-zero carbon environment. Yes. Then it's obviously also via our research, engaging with many partners out there, with the public sector to really work together to have more tangible, decisive plans to move on. I think these are just a few hints what we are doing. Then obviously it's also, as particularly Martin Bertogg pointed out, it's about carbon reduction, but it's also about mitigation and adaption, because to some extent, climate change will be there.

We still have an ambition to provide more coverage so we can help for those risks that cannot be avoided, to at least help people then to recover and get back on their feet quickly, if events like the ones pointed out in the Sigma happen.

Martin Bertogg
Head Catastrophe Perils, Swiss Re

I would add to Edi's elaboration on the underwriting side, as this is eventually the core of our existence as a re or insurance company to maintain insurability. Also relating to the question of before, if we can remain that resilience factor, we can uphold that resilience factor for the whole economy, that's absolutely core. There it's being forward-looking and also adjust to new risk levels for us as Swiss Re, but for the whole industry, it's key to maintain that. That's a strong contribution to also kind of mitigate some of the effects in climate change.

Jérôme Haegeli
Chief Economist, Swiss Re

This is Jérôme speaking. Maybe to add on the point of financial markets impact, which Edi Schmid alluded to. In Swiss Re, we pioneer the usage of ESG integration, and the fact is, full of our asset management balance sheet is now tracked with ESG-compatible benchmarks, which is a good thing because then we know our ESG levels, and also it helps us to transition to a low carbon footprint on the asset side. Given that insurance sector has both this dual positive role in underwriting risk and providing risk transformation to the primary insurance sector from the reinsurance perspective. At the same time, we are also long-term investors. Doing this transition on the asset side is also very crucial.

If you look at the studies out there, and we also cover it in our Nat Cat statement, if you look at the studies out there in terms of what climate change could potentially mean for world's financial assets, it's clear that climate change is a systemic risk. Some studies are a little bit dated, and there's a big range in terms of impact estimates. Impact estimates suggest that up to one quarter of today's long-term investment assets under management, up to $14 trillion of the world's financial assets are at risk of becoming impacted of climate change. That's why I also strongly agree with former Bank of England chairman calling that climate change is a systemic risk, and we really need to have a better and more green financial system.

It's really both sides of the balance sheet where Swiss Re is acting and where also our industry needs to act. Thank you.

Alexa Winnick
Communication Business Partner, Swiss Re

I have another question. The question is, if the costs rise, to what extent will certain assets slowly but surely become uninsurable, and if there are any examples? Also, to what extent the situation is going to be influenced by coronavirus, if there's any comments that you can make on that. If the coronavirus and its effects currently might have some effect on how insurers can respond to Nat cats in the near and long term.

Martin Bertogg
Head Catastrophe Perils, Swiss Re

Maybe I give a take on the uninsurability question, probably repeating myself a little bit with what I mentioned before on a similar question. It's the areas where we see most at risk to become stressed areas for insurance protection is close to the seaboards, where we have sea level rises, in particularly flat areas. Parts of the U.K., maybe in parts of Florida, being affected by that in rather decades than in the next years, that sea level rise has to unmitigated, and that's probably the key word here, to such a high exposure that insurance becomes a question of economic viability. It's not that it's uninsurable in its sense, but if it's more or less a certain loss, it's just the premium gets so high that it's not viable anymore to pay for insurance.

Actually, these areas most highly at risk are probably also areas where today construction has been going on in areas where basically they should not even built, even known areas of high exposure, and that's happening particularly in large urban conurbation, that with this pressure on growing cities, that it's not always the most favorable places which are overbuilt by buildings. Also there, the human impact is an important one, not on the climate change side, but by planning or kind of failing also on the planning. That's the areas which become in this corner of economically becoming not really a good value proposition for insurance anymore. Human mitigation will add some to that of kind of reduce some of that risk, and even more likely, people will leave these places before even the question of insurability comes up.

Right now, with having no tipping points around, we're not that concerned that the question of insurability really hits the industry that strongly. Might be in corners and areas.

Edi Schmid
Chairman of the Swiss Re Institute and Group Chief Underwriting Officer, Swiss Re

Maybe I give a shot at the second question, which I understand is around what COVID-19 now may mean for insurance solutions in a bigger picture. The first thing I would say, insurance and reinsurance has a purpose of being a shock absorber to individuals and to the economic system overall. Particularly during these very difficult crisis times, the insurance industry has to continue to provide its service to policyholders and to society. Also at Swiss Re, we have prepared a lot, and we are very happy that our business actually continue in a normal as possible way. We continue to provide coverage. We pay valid claims very swiftly. During these times, this is even more important.

What I would also point out that COVID-19 will be a stark reminder that it is all about risk management, which means to think about potential adversity errors early and make efforts to mitigate the risk and find ways to be better prepared with various measures. What I would also like to point out around COVID is that what is very important for the insurance system to function is that insurance is all about agreeing ex-ante what type of losses and accidents will be covered, what's the level of premium agreed beforehand, and then it's clear when bad things happen, who gets what level of compensation. We need to be firm to defend that actually the rule of law apply. Obviously, there's some pressures to pay claims that are not covered according to the original policy, which really would not make the insurance system as a whole sustainable.

What I would point out that COVID, as it unfolds, it is a bad crisis. It's not, let's say, in that sense, a surprise pandemic risk. Nat Cat has been a risk factor, we have studied and researched for many years and built our models. As in other crisis in the past, there will be a lot of learnings we can do even better to help individuals, businesses, and economies to deal with crisis. I think it also important to highlight that the capacity to provide coverage for pandemic risk is limited. It is a very systemic factor. The losses, the impacts go across the whole world. It affects the underwriting side and also the financial market side.

We can only provide pandemic cover to a limited extent, and there needs to be solutions that also involve government backup as it would go beyond the ability of the insurance industry alone.

Jérôme Haegeli
Chief Economist, Swiss Re

This is Jérôme speaking. I would like to add one point to what just Edi Schmid said. Eddie mentioned the COVID-19 is a stark reminder about the risk management and risk management services that the insurance industry provides. While COVID-19 and climate change has clear parallels, I think there are also very important differences. Parallels, both COVID-19 and climate change are global crisis. Difference is pandemic will end. At some point. Climate change will not. That's why it's even more urgent that we take a long-term view, and we act now. Our industry is really about thinking long-term and providing risk knowledge, capabilities, and services so that we also adapt over the long-term, provide solutions to the climate crisis needs with transformation, switching to renewables, for instance, but also support adaptation with innovations.

Obviously, also, as Martin Bertogg mentioned, provide the insurability so that we have the risk-taking capacity to move and adapt to a new world of low carbon emissions. Clearly parallels, but also very important differences. I think my wish would be that with the COVID-19 wake-up call, we don't just take actions on the pandemic, which are necessary and needed, but we also take actions longer-term, together with the public sector and the industry in adapting to climate change. Thank you.

Operator

The first question from the phone comes from the line of Paul Arnold from Reuters. Please go ahead.

Paul Arnold
Journalist, Reuters

Good morning, gentlemen. I would like to talk again about the current situation, if possible. As you said, despite the efforts to reduce and better hedge risks associated with climate change, do you think that clients will, at least in the near future, demand more insurance against these types of risks, like epidemics or pandemics? Do you think that the industry may need to provide, let's say, new adapted offers for this type of risk?

Edi Schmid
Chairman of the Swiss Re Institute and Group Chief Underwriting Officer, Swiss Re

Thanks, Paul, for that question. I think it goes without saying that the current COVID-19 crisis is a stark reminder of pandemic risk. Many people may have underestimated this exposure in the past, so I would clearly expect to see an increased awareness and demand for coverage. As I've already pointed out before, as an industry, we need to be very realistic what is our role to play around managing a risk like pandemic because of its clearly systemic nature. As it is with other risks of that type, can also put terrorism and some parts of accumulating cyber risks. The insurance industry can contribute a lot in terms also of risk management services, of increasing the awareness, of understanding the risk. It can make some coverage available, as we do for pandemics. Most of the mortality policies obviously would cover deaths from COVID-19 or from a pandemic.

As I pointed out before, the systemic nature is so broad that this cover can only be provided to a limited extent, and it needs to be clearly defined. Also, an adequate premium needs to be charged. The systemic nature, as it also correlates with the financial market, as we see, means that it cannot be diversified well, so it needs also a government involvement to make it manageable. We'll try to do more, as in the past, but clearly the capacity to take such a systemic risk of the insurance industry is limited.

Paul Arnold
Journalist, Reuters

Thank you.

Edi Schmid
Chairman of the Swiss Re Institute and Group Chief Underwriting Officer, Swiss Re

Thank you.

Operator

There are no more questions from the phone.

Alexa Winnick
Communication Business Partner, Swiss Re

We have one more question that I have, a written question, and that was what was perhaps the most sort of surprising finding from the research, the sigma research? Is there anything you'd like to note that actually was a bit surprising to you, and I don't know, maybe this question's for Martin, that you ran into via the data?

Martin Bertogg
Head Catastrophe Perils, Swiss Re

Yeah. Thanks for the question. I asked myself the same, what made 2019 special? I would take one step back and say it's 2019 in the series of what we've seen 2017, 2018, and 2019. These three years as a whole are special, I think, for all of us, but particularly also for the insurance industry, as they kind of evoked that theme of a changing risk landscape very strongly. There was a very quiet period for natural perils, I would say, starting 2005 with the big hurricane series in the U.S. Some of you might remember Hurricane Katrina being the biggest event. 2010 and 2011, a bit of activity globally with earthquakes in Japan, in New Zealand. Overall, kind of a rather quiet period. Now, the last three years have kind of made this point of, hey, there is something moving on.

Climate is one of the drivers behind it, or the climate change is one of the drivers, but also urbanization effects becoming much more tangible. I wouldn't pick 2019 as a specifically eye-opening, but in a series of three years, you start to realize, hey, there's something ongoing. We're not in a static world anymore. That's what I would take away as the key observation, and that's the key learning for the industry to get out of this mood. Taking the average of the last 20 years is good enough. That's clearly not good enough anymore, most what we've seen now across many bigger kind of headline events in three years.

Alexa Winnick
Communication Business Partner, Swiss Re

Many thanks. We have no more questions, it appears, on the line or on the webcast. I just want to once again thank everyone for joining. If there are any follow-up questions, please feel free to shoot media relations an email, and they can try to answer your questions with the experts on the line after the fact. Once again, just as a reminder, the materials you received are embargoed until publication, which will be around 10:00 A.M. tomorrow Central European Time. Just keep that in mind. I'm told by my colleagues in media relations to make sure that's clear once again. Yes, thank you once again. Hope everyone has a lovely day.

Jérôme Haegeli
Chief Economist, Swiss Re

Thanks everyone for joining. Stay safe and keep a distance, huh?