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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

May 9, 2024

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Crombie REIT's Q1 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on May 9, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ruth Martin. Please go ahead.

Ruth Martin
Senior Director of Investor Relations and ESG Reporting, Crombie REIT

Thank you. Good day, everyone, and welcome to Crombie REIT's first quarter 2024 conference call and webcast. Thank you for joining us. This call is being recorded in live audio and is available on our website at www.crombie.ca. Slides to accompany today's call are available on the investor section of our website under Presentations and Events. On the call today are Mark Holly, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kara Cameron, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussion includes forward-looking statements. As always, we want to caution you that such statements are based on management's assumptions and beliefs. These forward-looking statements are subject to uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. Please see our public filings, including our management's discussion and analysis, and annual information form for a discussion of these risk factors.

Our discussion will also include expected yield on costs for capital expenditures. Please refer to the development section of our management's discussion and analysis for additional information on assumptions and risks. I will now turn the call over to Mark, who will begin the discussion with comments on Crombie's strategy and outlook. Kara will review Crombie's operating fundamentals, discuss our financial results, capital allocation, and approach to funding, and Mark will conclude with a few final remarks. Over to you, Mark.

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Thank you, Ruth. Good day, everyone, and thanks for joining us for our first quarter earnings call. Earlier today, we held our annual general meeting in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, where I outlined Crombie's strategy, our key areas of focus, and prospects for growth. I also discussed the broader macroeconomic landscape, including both the opportunities and challenges it presents for our industry today. Our team is committed to providing our unit holders with reliable long-term cash flow and a clear, consistent path to growth and value creation. Our first quarter performance demonstrated the resilience of our coast-to-coast necessity-based portfolio, the proficiency of our team in managing operations, and our steady advancement towards growth and further value creation. In the first quarter, we achieved Same-Asset Property Cash NOI growth of 3.2% and recorded a 7% increase in Adjusted FFO per unit.

Our leasing team successfully negotiated renewal spreads of 10.1% on 249,000 sq ft of GLA during the quarter. We continue to maintain a strong and flexible balance sheet, ending the quarter with ample liquidity, Debt-to-EBITDA of 7.97 times, leverage ratios well within our target ranges. This positions us well on our path to enhance our investment-grade rating. While macroeconomic challenges persist, Crombie's portfolio is strategically positioned in the most stable and sought-after asset classes in Canadian real estate. Our grocery-anchored retail assets, supporting industrial, and our mixed-use residential are situated in the heart of vibrant towns, expanding cities, and major urban centers nationwide. Designed to withstand the volatility of difficult environments, Crombie is positioned to leverage the resilience and flexibility of its portfolio. Our strategy is built on two pillars: value creation and solid foundation. Our value creation is firmly anchored in our exceptionally strong balance sheet.

We have three primary drivers to this value creation. These are: owning and operating an intentionally curated portfolio. Optimizing our assets, including our substantial development pipeline and partnerships. Both deepening our mutually beneficial relationship with Empire and establishing new partnerships to tap into the embedded value within our portfolio. Today, I'd like to touch on two of the three value drivers: partnerships and portfolio optimization. First, the pivotal role that partnerships play in our strategy. Crombie benefits significantly from its strategic partnership with Empire, governed by strong principles. Through alignment of our real estate strategies, we collaborate to plan and deliver on programs that enhance the quality of our portfolio, including but not limited to acquisitions of stable grocery-anchored sites, modernizations, banner conversions, and construction of purpose-built projects.

In the first quarter, substantial completion was achieved at our next retail-related industrial asset in Calgary, Alberta, which I will speak to shortly. Crombie unit holders directly benefit from the quality of the assets that have come up from this relationship, as well as the inherent growth pipeline it can provide. In addition to the tremendous partnership we have with Empire, expanding our partnership will be a key priority for Crombie, with a specific focus on forming alliances that enable us to unlock the value in our extensive development portfolio while maintaining the strength of our top-quality balance sheet. Collaborating with the right partners will enable us to strategically develop properties while maintaining a disciplined focus on capital allocation and maximizing returns for our unit holders. One of our more recent partnerships is the co-ownership of our mixed-use residential asset, The Village at Bronte Harbour in Oakville, Ontario.

The collective team worked hard to generate significant leasing momentum over the year, and in the first quarter of 2024, we achieved two important milestones at this location. First, we had projected reaching occupancy stabilization in the first half of 2024, and I'm happy to say that we reached it in the first quarter, ending the quarter with committed and economic occupancy of 93% and 91%, respectively. Second is that we secured CMHC financing on the asset at an interest rate of 4.35%, harvesting significant interest savings through an approximate 275 basis point improvement over the debt that was previously in place. We look forward to recognizing the benefits of stabilization and CMHC financing in quarters to come. Next, I will focus on portfolio optimization. Optimizing our properties is key to our long-term strategy for enhancing AFFO and net asset value.

Central to this approach is portfolio reinvestment, focused on identifying the most effective uses of our assets to maximize returns and strategically allocate capital. Our development program is structured around two elements: major developments and non-major developments. Major developments involve longer-term commitments and total estimated costs greater than CAD 50 million, while non-major projects are typically shorter-term with total estimated costs below the CAD 50 million mark. Through this structure, we aim to unlock the full potential of our portfolio and drive sustained growth. Currently, we have one active major development project underway, The Marlstone in Halifax, Nova Scotia, which will introduce 291 residential units to our expanding portfolio and will be a welcome addition to one of Canada's fastest-growing cities. Currently under construction, The Marlstone has already reached above-grade levels, with the third level of the residential structure to be completed by mid-May.

Substantial completion is expected in the first half of 2026. To support the next wave of major development growth and create a well-structured development pipeline, our team continues to strategically advance projects through the entitlement process. Entitlement creates value at a low capital cost and provides optionality and flexibility. We currently have eight locations within Canada's most notable cities that have zoning in place or three zoning applications submitted. These sites have the potential to add 5,300 residential units, equivalent to 4.6 million sq ft of commercial and residential GLA. As I mentioned, entitlements and unencumbered sites create optionality for Crombie, and from time to time, we may elect to sell an asset in our development pipeline to crystallize the value and recycle the proceeds into other strategic growth initiatives.

On our fourth quarter earnings call, we announced our intention to sell our 50% interest at our Broadview site in Toronto, Ontario, to monetize entitlement value rather than to pursue development. As of April 30th, we closed on the transaction above IFRS fair value for total proceeds of CAD 13 million. This transaction represents one of the many avenues for value creation available to Crombie. In response to the current macroeconomic environment, we heightened our focus to the non-major development program, prioritizing shorter-duration projects. Current projects have a yield on costs in the range of 5.5%-7% and are a great way to strengthen our portfolio, creating NAV and driving NOI. In the first quarter, we advanced CAD 1.5 million of modernization and expanded our portfolio by 26,000 sq ft of industrial GLA through a 50% joint operation with Empire for their new central kitchen commissary site in Calgary, Alberta.

As Empire explores expanding their network, we will actively seek opportunities to collaborate where and when it makes sense for Crombie. Lastly, I want to highlight the amazing work the team has done in advancing our ESG commitments. We will release our 2023 ESG report in the coming months, which will highlight our environmental, social, and governance achievements last year. ESG is not a standalone plan at Crombie. Commitments to climate action, social responsibility, governance, accountability, and transparency are embedded in our strategy, the work we do, and the decisions we make. In April, we were proud to announce that we've been named one of Canada's Greenest Employers in 2024. The people who work to achieve our objectives do so with passion, determination, and integrity, and together, they have built an engaging, high-performing culture.

I will now hand the call over to Kara, who will highlight our third value creation driver, operational excellence, and the cornerstone of our solid foundation, our balance sheet.

Kara Cameron
Interim CFO, Crombie REIT

Thank you, Mark, and good day, everyone. 2024 commenced on solid footing, as evidenced by our first quarter operational results. We ended the quarter with committed and economic occupancy of 96.2% and 95.7%, respectively. We did have a slight decrease in occupancy from Q4 2023 of 30 basis points. This is largely due to one tenant vacating at the end of their lease term, which was expected. A healthy level of turnover provides us the opportunity to garner higher rents in addition to rental growth through renewals. Our in-place annual minimum rent per sq ft was CAD 17.72 at the end of the first quarter, approximately 4% higher than 12 months ago. This growth is driven by new leasing activity, renewals, and contractual rent step-ups, positively contributing to Same-Asset NOI and AFFO growth.

At the end of the quarter, 94,000 sq ft of GLA was committed at an average first-year rate of CAD 20.66 per sq ft, 17% above our in-place portfolio rent per sq ft. Included in committed space are three non-major development projects, which are expected to open throughout 2024: two new builds, the Alberta Central Kitchen Commissary, a purpose-built industrial asset, and a national-brand quick-service restaurant, as well as repurposed existing vacant space within our portfolio for a new Farm Boy grocery store. New leases increased occupancy by 64,000 sq ft at an average first-year rate of CAD 23.04, boosting our in-place rent per sq ft and same-asset NOI. 84% of new leases were completed in Rest of Canada markets, speaking to the desirability of these primarily grocery-anchored, necessity-based assets as they serve the needs of communities across the country.

Notable new leases include the recently constructed Foodland in Mount Forest, Ontario, and PetSmart in Fort McMurray, Alberta. Lease renewal activity across our portfolio consisted of 249,000 sq ft at a 10.1% increase for year one over expiring rental rates, or a 10.6% increase when comparing the expiring rental rate to the weighted average rental rate for the renewal term. It is our solid leasing performance over the last 12 months, primarily new leases and renewals, that has led to a 3.2% increase in same-asset NOI compared to the same quarter in 2023. Adjusting for the land sale at our joint venture, Opal Ridge, in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, that occurred in the first quarter of 2023, AFFO and FFO per unit increased 8% and 7%, respectively.

The improvement in Adjusted AFFO and FFO per unit for the quarter was driven by higher property revenue from completed development, leasing activity, revenue from management and development services, as well as higher capitalized interest. This was partially offset by an increase in interest expense. Our AFFO payout ratio was 86.1%, while our FFO payout ratio was 73.6%, both improving from Q1 of 2023. Returning to our balance sheet and financial condition, we remain committed to upholding a strong balance sheet and disciplined approach to capital allocation. We remain committed to our goal of achieving an upgrade to BBB mid from our current BBB low stable trend from Morningstar DBRS. With this objective in mind, we issued CAD 200 million of six-year unsecured notes at an interest rate of 5.14%. This was a highly successful issuance, reflecting our diligent market monitoring and strategic timing.

The issue demonstrates our ability to access one of the multiple sources of capital available to us, but also highlights our active balance sheet management as well as meeting our capital funding requirements. Additionally, in the first quarter, we repaid CAD 82 million in maturing mortgages, of which eight mortgages were refinanced, totaling CAD 31 million at Crombie Share, with a weighted average interest rate of 5.3%. All the refinanced mortgages are held in joint operations, and refinancing was completed together with our partners. As Mark mentioned, at our joint venture property, the Village at Bronte Harbour, we closed on a CAD 243 million mortgage loan, equivalent to CAD 121.5 million at Crombie Share. The mortgage has an interest rate of 4.35%, harvesting significant interest savings through an approximate 275 basis points improvement over previously in-place debt.

We are actively working towards securing CMHC financing through the MLI Select program at The Marlstone and expect to have this in place over the coming quarters. We ended the quarter with available liquidity of CAD 737 million and our unencumbered assets increased from CAD 2.6 billion at Q4 2023 to CAD 2.8 billion in the first quarter of 2024. Debt to Gross F air Value was 42.9%, consistent with Q4 2023, and our debt-to-trailing 12-month Adjusted EBITDA was 7.97x, an improvement from 8.03x at December 31st, 2023. Our operational and financial results are evidence of the value and strength of our necessity-based portfolio, our commitment to operational excellence, and the active management of our balance sheet and financial conditions. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mark for a few closing comments.

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Thanks, Kara. We are off to a great start in 2024. The business fundamentals are strong, as evident by our metrics of success and our balance of stability and growth. Our team's focus on financial health, culture, and ESG enables us to make the right decisions for the long-term good of our climate, employees, communities, and business. With that, we are pleased to answer any questions you may have.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star followed by the number 2. If you're using a speakerphone, please leave the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins. Your line is open.

Lorne Kalmar
VP of Institutional Equity Research and Real Estate, Desjardins

Thank you very much, and good afternoon, everybody. On the same property side of things, you guys had a pretty decent print, I think a little bit above the 2%-3% range you guys had discussed previously for 2024 and some pretty solid rent growth. Is there anything you're seeing out there right now that would cause the rest of the year to be any different, or would office just be sort of the big bogey? How do you guys think about that?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Hi, Lorne. Thanks for the question. Yeah, we had a really down-the-fairway type of quarter, and same-asset NOI at 3% is a strong number for us. As we've talked about, our target range is between 2% and 3%. And as you know, that's coming from new leases, renewals, LUIs, modernizations. And as we last quarter, we had a strong quarter. We had another strong quarter this quarter. But as we kind of talk about our target ranges, we're going to stick to our comfort zone of the 2%-3%. And the team continues to work on new leases and renewals, and there's good supply-demand out there for our assets, but 2%-3% is our range.

Lorne Kalmar
VP of Institutional Equity Research and Real Estate, Desjardins

Maybe digging a little bit into that, is 2% sort of sorry, to end up at the low end of the range, would that kind of have to be an issue with the office portfolio, or are you guys pretty confident in the fundamentals there?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Yeah, we have about 1 million sq ft of office. It's predominantly right downtown Halifax. It's got a long WALT. It's 90% occupied. We do see changes, ebbs and flows in there. So if you kind of look at the occupancy numbers, they were slightly off this quarter, but that was from three tenants. That totaled 6,000 sq ft. So the office sector for us is strong. It's much stronger than others in that market. So it's not through the office. It's just throughout our entire portfolio when you look at the spread between retail, office, and industrial.

Lorne Kalmar
VP of Institutional Equity Research and Real Estate, Desjardins

Okay. And then on the Broadview deal, it looks like you got some pretty decent pricing there. Has that inspired you guys to maybe move forward with some more dispositions of other non-core or longer-term development sites over the next little while?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Yeah, we do have an amazing pipeline of development assets. As we've always talked about it, we look at it in multiple ways. One of them is from time to time, we will dispose of an asset. Last year, we did Opal Ridge. This year, we're doing a Broadview, and we're really pleased with the great work that our corporate development team did there in selling that asset significantly above our IFRS. We will do that from time to time. That is a part of our game plan going forward.

Lorne Kalmar
VP of Institutional Equity Research and Real Estate, Desjardins

Nothing sort of imminent over the balance of the year?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Not at this point in time, Lorne.

Lorne Kalmar
VP of Institutional Equity Research and Real Estate, Desjardins

Okay. And then maybe just lastly, do you guys have a target AFFO payout ratio? Just trying to get an idea of when you might start thinking about distribution increases.

Kara Cameron
Interim CFO, Crombie REIT

Hi, Lorne. It's Kara. So we're not communicating any distribution increase plan at this point in time. We are focused on the improvement of our payout ratio, and I think you can see that coming down over the past several quarters. So we're really pleased with where we're sitting at right now. In terms of target, we're not actively communicating a specific target. Again, we're balancing the needs of the investments in the organization with the financing requirements, and so we'll continue to do that.

Lorne Kalmar
VP of Institutional Equity Research and Real Estate, Desjardins

Okay. Fair enough. I will turn it back.

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Thanks, Lorne.

Kara Cameron
Interim CFO, Crombie REIT

Thanks.

Operator

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, simply press a star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Sam Damiani from TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Sam Damiani
Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Thank you. Good afternoon, everybody. I guess my first question is just on those Vancouver sites where Empire agreed to amend the lease to facilitate future redevelopment. Is there any update on the status of either of those or Crombie's intentions with respect to them?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Good afternoon, Sam. Yeah, Lynn Valley and Kingsway & Tyne are the two sites out of Vancouver, and we're actively internally working on them, building out some design drawings, scalability, number of residential units we could build, how does the food store intersect the ground floor of that? That's where we are today. We've started to do some dialog with the community, and we've started to initiate some dialogs at the municipal level. No formal applications at this point, but they are active files internally for Crombie.

Sam Damiani
Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Okay. And switching over to Broadway & Commercial, looks like things are getting a little bit more in focus in terms of timeline there. Could you give any more detail on, I guess, what you expect to happen this year or next year and, I guess, how serious your intentions are?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Yeah, the Broadway & Commercial has been a project that we've been working on for a number of years. As we've talked about, we switched the profile of that from one condo into rentals to three rentals. We are still actively engaged with the municipality. We're working through public open houses now. We have a bit of a line of sight on hoping to be entitled by the end of this year, which will then set us up for some decisions about detailed design work and where do we go with it after that. But we got to get through this first hurdle. This is the most important one. So between ourselves and our partner, we're working on obtaining the highest and best use, which is those three rental towers, probably by the end of the year.

Sam Damiani
Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Okay. Great. And last one for me is just on the desire to get a notch up on the credit rating. The REIT's been running around 8x that EBITDA for a little bit. What are the sort of goalposts that are set that you need to achieve to achieve that upgrade?

Kara Cameron
Interim CFO, Crombie REIT

Hi. Thanks for the question. Yes, we are focused on BBB mid right now. So we've got a secured debt-to-total debt at 43.1%, which is a reduction from our 47.4% at Q4 2023. And so we're actively chasing to be in that 60-40 ratio on secured-to-unsecured debt ratios. And so that's what we're really working towards achieving by the end of this year and then really showing the stability of that and maintaining it over a longer course. And that's the focus of our BBB mid path.

Sam Damiani
Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Okay. And then so nothing to do on the debt EBITDA or the total size of the EBITDA?

Kara Cameron
Interim CFO, Crombie REIT

Yeah. So we've met that obligation already on the Debt-to-EBITDA, so we're well within the ratios as laid out by DBRS.

Sam Damiani
Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Wonderful. Thank you, and I'll turn it back.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brad Sturges from Raymond James. Your line is open.

Brad Sturges
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Raymond James

Hey there. Just to follow up on the comments around the Broadway project, I guess, does the change from condo to rental, does that require you to resubmit zoning applications? And then what would be the timing of, you think, would be getting fully approved? Would that be by the end of the year?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Hi, Brad. Yeah, Broadway & Commercial, we pivoted to that change. We have been working with the municipality on that change for, gosh, 6-9 months now. The application that is before the municipality and is with that already in mind. The public open house that we were preparing for in the next couple of months is with that design. All indications are that getting through public consultation will get us through the entitlement in the fall. We'll be fully entitled on the 3 rental towers, somewhere in the neighborhood of 970 units.

Brad Sturges
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. That's helpful. And then my only other question would be just on the non-major development activity. I think you've talked about it being sort of an important part of some of the capital allocation that you're doing. Just how do you think about the cadence of completions over the course of the year on that opportunity set?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Yeah, last year, we were able to introduce about 83,000 sq ft of new GLA through non-major developments. We're also doing modernizations and some work with Empire. We're projecting ourselves to be on a similar path. Today in the MD&A, we talk about land use intensifications of about 50,000-60,000 sq ft. And then in modernizations, redevelopments, and others, at this point, we're showcasing that we got about CAD 8 million of spend there. So it is still very much in focus, especially in this environment. I really like the non-major developments. They are very much in and out within 12 months. And we kind of showcased some of that work over the last four quarters, and we're going to continue to lean into that part of the program.

Brad Sturges
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst, Raymond James

Okay. That's helpful. I'll turn it back. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Rohit Gaurav from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Rohit Gaurav
Associate, BMO Capital Markets

Hi. Thanks. Just a quick one from me. Can you give a little bit of color on the tenant watchlist at the moment and also an occupancy for the remainder of the year?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Yeah, for our watchlist, it is very, very light. Every landlord has a watchlist. Ours is very, very small. What is a larger watchlist is who is looking for space across our grocery-anchored sites coast to coast. That is a list that is much more in focus for us. Our occupancy is very stable. It's strong. And so when we are able to remerchandise, we're really zeroing in on that list of tenants that can fit the needs of the center and kind of fit the needs of the daily merchandise mix that you need for the community residents.

Rohit Gaurav
Associate, BMO Capital Markets

That was helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sumayya Syed from CIBC. Your line is open.

Sumayya Syed
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Thanks, everybody. Just a question on the land use intensification disclosed, the 52,000 sq ft. I guess it is implying a cost to complete of about CAD 350 a foot. Would you say that that's a fairly representative and current cost figure for these types of intensifications? Is there much variance by market or type of project?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Hi, Sumayya. It wouldn't vary that much by type of market, but it will vary by what the intensification is. And so I wouldn't get fixated on a cost per buildable just because that could include multiple locations. It could be different tenant mixes and how we're deploying it. The one that I think is important to see is how many square feet we're looking to add to the GLA and when that comes online.

Sumayya Syed
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Okay. Makes sense. And then I think there was a comment in the disclosure around downsizing by a tenant. Was that just a one-off situation?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

It was. Yeah, it was one tenant. We were fully aware of it vacating. And so our leasing and ops team are now working actively on now how we're going to backfill it and help support the merch mix of that center.

Sumayya Syed
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Okay. Just lastly, touching on the leasing spreads, almost 11.5% for retail. How do you expect these spreads to hold on for the balance of your leasing for the year?

Mark Holly
President and CEO, Crombie REIT

Yeah, the team did a terrific job. As you know, we ended last year at about 5.9%. And each and every quarter, we're sort of growing on that. I would say 10 is a high number for us. And we did 249,000 sq ft of renewals in the quarter. The mix between fixed rates and negotiated rates was slightly skewed more to negotiated rates. And so we were able to command a better lift on those. As we've given some targets to the investor community, we're still sticking to those targets of mid-single digits.

Sumayya Syed
Equity Research Analyst, CIBC

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Ruth Martin for closing remarks.

Ruth Martin
Senior Director of Investor Relations and ESG Reporting, Crombie REIT

Thank you for your time today, and we look forward to updating you on our second quarter call in August.

Operator

Thank you, presenters. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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