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Earnings Call: Q3 2019

Nov 6, 2019

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the conference call for Granite REIT. Speaking to you on the call this morning is Kevan Gorrie, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Teresa Neto, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today's call, I'd like to remind you that today's statements and information made in today's discussion may constitute forward-looking statements and forward-looking information, and that actual results could differ materially from any conclusion, forecast, or projections. These statements and information are based on certain material facts or assumptions, reflect management's current expectations, and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in Granite's material filed with the Canadian Securities Administrators and the US Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time, including the Risk Factors section of its Annual Information Form for 2019, filed on March 6th, 2019.

Leaders are cautioned not to place any undue reliance on any of these forward-looking statements and forward-looking information. Granite undertakes no intention or obligation to update or revise any of these forward-looking statements or forward-looking information, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except required by law. In addition, the remarks this morning may include financial terms and measures that do not have a standardized meaning under International Financial Reporting Standards. Please refer to the Q3 2019 condensed combined audited financial results and management's discussion and analysis of Granite Real Estate Investment Trust and Granite REIT Inc. and other materials filed with the Canadian Securities Administrators and U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time for additional relevant information. I would now turn the call to Kevan Gorrie. Please go ahead.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

Thank you, operator. Thank you everyone for taking the time to join us for our Q3 earnings call. I'm pleased to be joined this afternoon by Teresa and Lorne Kumer, our Executive Vice President of Real Estate, and Michael Ramparas, our Senior Vice President of Investments and Global Real Estate. Teresa will begin a discussion with a review of the financial highlights. I will then follow with comments on acquisitions, operations, development, and strategy, and then open up the call to any questions that you may have.

Teresa Neto
CFO, Granite REIT

All right. Thanks, Kevan, Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for making the time to join this call. The third quarter was one of Granite's strongest quarters ever posted. We posted robust same property NOI and FFO growth and a continuation of investment activity with Granite executing acquisitions of three investment properties totaling approximately CAD 84 million, followed by an additional CAD 102 million of new investments announced post-quarter. FFO per unit for Q3 was CAD 0.93, an 8% increase relative to Q3 of 2018 and up 4% relative to Q2 of this year. Included in this quarter's FFO is CAD 0.4 million of additional G&A expense pertaining to final costs relating to the departure of the trust's former CFO. Normalizing for this item, FFO per unit would be CAD 0.94.

The comparative FFO of Q3 2018 was also impacted by employee termination costs of CAD 1 million, whereby if adjusting for that item, FFO per unit would have been CAD 0.88. Incremental FFO from new acquisitions, net of dispositions, lower current income tax expense, as well as a net small positive foreign exchange impact driven by a weaker Canadian dollar relative to the U.S. dollar and offsetting the effect of a strengthened Canadian dollar relative to the euro, all more than offset the temporary dilutive effect of the CAD 231 million April equity offering, where proceeds have not yet been fully deployed in the quarter. Granite's AFFO on a per unit basis in Q3 was CAD 0.90, which is CAD 0.08 higher than Q3 2018 and CAD 0.02 higher than Q2 of this year.

AFFO per unit was favorably impacted by the higher FFO per unit and lower AFFO-related capital expenditures incurred in the quarter of CAD 1.4 million compared to CAD 2.1 million in the same period last year. For fiscal year 2019, we are expecting total maintenance capital expenditures, leasing, and commissions to reach approximately CAD 7.5 million for the year. In Q4 specifically, AFFO-related CapEx is expected to be approximately CAD 3.8 million-CAD 4 million. As a result of a relatively low CapEx quarter and strong FFO performance, the AFFO pay-out ratio for this quarter came in at 78%. Operating metrics continue to demonstrate positive momentum. NOI on a cash basis for the quarter increased by CAD 3.9 million or 6.9% from the same quarter of last year and by CAD 2 million or 3.4% from the second quarter of 2019.

Same property NOI for Q3 2019 was very strong relative to last year, increasing 4.3%, and on a constant currency basis, increasing by 5.8%, driven mostly by occupancy gains in Canada, the U.S., and the Netherlands, and contractual rent or CPI increases in the U.S., Austria, and Netherlands. On a year-to-date basis, same property NOI is up CAD 3.7 million or 2.8% relative to last year, and on a constant currency basis, 3.9%. G&A for the quarter was CAD 0.6 million lower than the same quarter last year and CAD 1.7 million lower than the second quarter of 2019, which, if you recall, was impacted by CAD 2.1 million of termination costs related to the CFO's departure. Included in the current quarter's G&A is CAD 0.3 million of expense related to the fair value loss associated with the increase in non-cash compensation liabilities due to the increase in Granite's unit price.

On a year-to-date basis, these fair values losses amounted to CAD 1 million. Assuming no further fair value variances from the remeasurement of unit-based compensation liabilities, G&A for fiscal 2019 is estimated to be approximately CAD 30 million for the year, and for Q4, G&A is expected to remain flat with Q3 at approximately CAD 7 million for the quarter. Note that the forecasted G&A for 2019 fiscal year would be CAD 27.8 million if CFO termination costs totaling CAD two and a half million are excluded. In the fourth quarter, the Trust completed a reorganization of its Austrian entities, whereby the ownership of the Trust's Austrian entities is now controlled by the REIT's Netherlands structure. This reorganization will result in future savings relating to withholding tax on Austrian dividends and will facilitate a future share sale efficiently.

This reorganization will, however, result in a recognition of a real estate transfer tax expense of approximately EUR 1.8 million, or CAD 2.7 million, in the fourth quarter. Although this will be a significant expense incurred in the current year, we expect to realize savings of the same EUR 1.8 million in 2020, when we anticipate distributing approximately EUR 36 million from Austria to Canada. We'll continue to realize withholding tax savings every year thereafter on Austrian distributions of approximately EUR 0.7 million, or CAD 1 million, based on current distribution forecasts. The trust balance sheet remains very strong, comprising total assets of approximately CAD 4.5 billion at the end of Q3, an increase of CAD 70 million since the end of the second quarter of this year, driven by CAD 78 million of fair value gains recognized on the trust investment property portfolio.

Over 80% of this fair value gain is attributable to the trust properties located in the GTA and USA. The increase in total assets was partially offset by a decrease of about CAD 45 million on the trust European investment property portfolio due to the strengthening of the Canadian dollar against the euro. Positively impacted by an increase of approximately CAD 17 million on the trust's U.S. assets due to a weaker Canadian dollar against the U.S. dollar. The trust's overall weighted average cap rate decreased 10 basis points to 6.2% at the end of the third quarter. As disclosed, the REIT refinanced and extended its U.S. term loan in the quarter, which will result in interest expense savings of CAD 0.03 per unit going forward. The REIT continues to evaluate refinancing opportunities that can leverage its unique access to significantly lower European debt.

Total net leverage at the end of the quarter was 20%, essentially flat with the second quarter. The trust's current liquidity is approximately CAD 1.1 billion, representing cash on hand of approximately CAD 650 million and the undrawn operating line of CAD 500 million. Net leverage and liquidity, pro forma the October 31 equity offering, acquisitions and investments announced on October 21st, and the completion of the disposition of the remaining five assets held for sale, is estimated to be 20% and approximately CAD 850 million liquidity. The recent equity offering is expected to have a dilutive impact to the fourth quarter. I'll now turn over the call to Kevan.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

Thanks, Teresa. As always, I will keep my comments brief as I trust you've had the opportunity to review our MD&A and press release. As in the second quarter, I would characterize the third quarter, albeit very strong, as being in line with our expectations and slightly ahead of schedule in terms of progress against our strategic plan. During the quarter, I acquired a 260,000 sq ft distribution center in the Netherlands and a newly constructed 300,000 sq ft distribution center in Horn Lake, Mississippi, a suburb of Memphis with close proximity to Memphis International Airport and FedEx's main global air hub. These assets were acquired at an average going-in NOI yield of 5.9% and represent growth in two of our target markets in Europe and the U.S. respectively.

Also in the quarter, we acquired, in partnership with NorthPoint Development, a 191-acre infill site fronting U.S. Highway 90 in northeast Houston. The site will accommodate approximately 2.5 million square feet in total development. We have launched phase one, comprising two buildings totaling roughly 650,000 square feet, which we expect to complete early in the third quarter of 2020. I will discuss the status of our other development projects shortly. During the quarter, we also closed on the disposition of our Finch Dean asset in Scarborough and expect to close on the sale of the five Michigan assets in the fourth quarter. Our dispositions are expected to total just over CAD 105 million by the end of the year, which is at the low end of our guidance for 2019.

Execution of the lease extension documents and preparations for the sale of our assets held for sale in Sorry, I should say our assets planned for sale in Austria, Spain, and Windsor required more time than expected, and those transactions will now be pushed into 2020. We have decided for now to retain our asset in Redditch, England, pending clarity around Brexit and market conditions in Britain. Following the acquisitions and dispositions which occurred on or before September 30th, our Magna tenant concentration by revenue and GLA has decreased to 47% and 40%, respectively, putting us ahead of schedule on our previously announced target of reducing our Magna concentration to below 50% on a revenue basis by the end of 2019. Pro forma the sale of the Michigan portfolio and the announced acquisitions, including the Dallas, Texas development which is expected to close later this month.

Our concentration is expected to decrease further to 41% and 35% of revenue and GLA respectively on a run rate basis. Operationally, we have now negotiated extensions on roughly 1.4 million or 65% of lease expiries in 2020, at an average rental rate increase of over 5%. The remaining 750,000 feet of expiries in 2020, which occur in the second half of the year, we anticipate an average rent rate increase of 7%-8% on renewal or re-leasing. At our current occupancy rate of 99.7%, we now only have 90,000 sq ft of vacant space related to the Novi asset in Michigan. In the quarter, we executed a 10-year lease at our 600 Tesma Way property in Bolton with a leading global e-commerce provider.

As Teresa mentioned earlier, and as disclosed in our MD&A, same property NOI is up 3.9% year-to-date on a constant currency basis. Movement quarter-over-quarter from 2018 was relatively broad-based and positive across all geographic segments on a constant currency basis, ranging from 1.8% in Austria to over 70% in the Netherlands, led, as Teresa mentioned, by leasing activity and occupancy gains from 2018. We expect same property NOI growth to moderate in Q4 from 5.8% this quarter and finish the year above our 2019 guidance of 2%-3%. We also reiterate our same property NOI growth guidance of 3%-4% for 2020, 3% roughly excluding intensification and 4% including intensification. As an update on our development program, we are continuing with the tendering phase on our Altbach development project in Stuttgart, Germany, and hope to commence construction in early Q1 2020 for completion in late 2020.

We remain in discussions with active prospects for the entire space. Our development project in AllPoints in Indianapolis continues to progress on schedule, with substantial completion expected in early Q2 2020. As disclosed in a press release in MD&A, our development site in Dallas is now substantially complete, and the tenant has waived the right under the lease to purchase the building. Subject to normal closing conditions, we expect the transaction to close later this month. The proposed expansion of the Congebec food distribution facility on Logistics Drive in Mississauga is currently in for permit and tendering. We anticipate commencing construction in the first quarter, with completion scheduled for late Q2.

As an update on the proposed development project in Calgary announced earlier this year, we were unable to economically resolve certain planning and zoning issues related to the acquisition of the land and will not be moving forward with the transaction. As previously discussed, we anticipate that these development projects will further enhance the quality of our portfolio, generate superior long-term returns, and create significant NAV growth for our unitholders upon stabilization, all a major component of our corporate strategy and philosophy. As Teresa mentioned, the combination of the Austrian restructuring charge and additional units from the October 31st equity offering will negatively impact our results for Q4. The restructuring charge will improve our cash flow in 2020 and beyond. The equity raise will enable us to execute on our growth plans for 2020 in conjunction with planned refinancing and potential financing initiatives.

As an important part of our organizational and growth strategy, Jon Sorg joined our team in October and will lead our platform and portfolio strategy in the U.S. The addition of Jon and Richard further improves our platform strength and capabilities in the U.S. and Europe respectively. In closing, we are very pleased to announce our eighth consecutive annual distribution increase. It is a product of a conservative capital structure and stable and sustainable cash flow growth that enables us to increase the distribution in 2019 and maintain conservative capital ratios for future potential increases. On that, I will now open up the floor for any questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to register for a question at this time, please press one followed by four on your telephone. You will hear a 3-tone prompt to acknowledge your request. If your question has been answered and would like to withdraw your registration, please press one followed by three. If you're using a speakerphone, please lift your handset before entering your request. One moment please for the first question. Our first question is from the line of Sam Damiani with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Thanks, good afternoon, everybody, and congratulations on a great quarter. Kevan, can you just clarify what you said about dispositions in, I think it was 3 markets that were being deferred, I think you said until 2020. I didn't quite catch the details on what you were saying there.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

The three markets involved, Sam, are Austria, Spain, and the Potillo asset in London.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

What's the total GLA of those assets?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

I think the total value is roughly CAD 60 million. I don't have the GLA on hand.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay. They're not huge assets.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

No.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay, it was sort of pending lease finalizations with the tenants?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

Yes. Getting the lease extensions papered and then just preparing the assets for sale, including property condition reports and so forth.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

Those are now expected to commence in 2020.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

Those transactions.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

As we look forward to 2020 in terms of acquisitions with more people on the ground, obviously, in Europe earlier this year and most recently in Dallas. How should we expect the mix of growth investments for Granite in 2020?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

Well, it looks like, I think year to date, including land for development, we've acquired roughly CAD 650 million of assets. We hope to finish the year a little north of CAD 700 million. Realistically, I think we'll do something similar to that in 2020. Probably somewhat better, but in that range, Sam.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Are you biasing U.S. over Europe? Are you looking seriously at more in Canada?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

Well, we're looking in Canada, but I think rightly so, we're being very selective about what we're doing in Canada. We still are seeing superior returns in the U.S. and Europe. I would say the bulk of our acquisitions, including development sites that we would look to acquire, would occur in Europe and the U.S.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay. Just, you mentioned the lease at, I think it was 600 Tesma. When does the rent commence there? I don't know, are you able to name the tenant?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

I'm not able to name the tenant under the conditions of the lease. The rent commenced September 1st.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Thanks. I'll turn it back.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Mark Rothschild with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Mark Rothschild
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Thanks, and good afternoon, everyone. In regard to the new development project that you bought in Dallas, can you talk about the market for funding those type of deals, buying product newly developed? Then maybe in that context, how would the cap rates going in on this deal compare to buying an asset that maybe the tenant was already paying rent, and if you buy it later on in the process, did it matter at all? Considering there was a lease in place, I'm not sure if that played into this deal.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

I think it did, Mark. I would say with assets like this, because of their scale and the value of them, I think you have to be very selective. We had looked at a few opportunities, frankly, globally, for assets like this. We felt like it was a very good fit strategically, but I think we are quite selective on the markets and the locations within the markets that we are looking for. This one fit our investment criteria. In terms of the cap rate consideration, it is our belief that there was cap rate consideration for a full purchase. I wouldn't speculate today on what that is, but I would offer that buying that asset on a stabilized basis would be at a higher price than what we agreed to purchase it for.

Mark Rothschild
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay, great. Then just maybe in regards to Calgary, the asset that you're not going forward on, is that anything that's related to your view on the market or is that completely separate? Maybe your view in general on the Alberta industrial market?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

I would see it this way. I think it was more related to costs associated with infrastructure and servicing of the site, and there were some question marks about what we could eventually build there. The other layer that I would put on top of that, though, is we felt like our flexibility in terms of pricing and what we can achieve was quite tight. This was a site where we weren't willing to push, in terms of our pro forma and what we thought we could achieve on a rental rate basis and a timing basis. I think that's kind of the best way I would put that.

Mark Rothschild
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Chris Couprie with CIBC. Please go ahead.

Chris Couprie
Analyst, CIBC

Good afternoon. Just two quick ones for me. Just for the organic growth outlook, would you be able to give any color in terms of the different geographies, what your growth expectations are by geography? Secondly, Kevan, you mentioned earlier, financing and refinancing initiatives for 2020. Just any color on that? Thanks.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

I'll let Teresa talk about the refinancing opportunities. On the same property NOI, I think you're talking about We did provide some color in 2019. There was a lot of leasing activity that drove our same-property NOI growth this year, particularly in Europe. 2020, there was a segment done in Canada and the U.S. and Europe. I think 2020, the expiries were more broad-based. Obviously, we're seeing better rental rate growth on our expiries and renewals and re-leasing in Canada. We do expect them to be positive across all the geographic segments, with Canada obviously leading the way in 2020 in terms of growth.

Teresa Neto
CFO, Granite REIT

Chris, on the financing side of it. We're always looking at opportunities. For instance, we have a maturity of CAD 250 million in 2021. Right now, it's still not worthwhile to refinance that due to the prepayment penalties on the debentures. That's something we're going to park for a little while. We're looking at the term loans, and doesn't make sense to do something similar to what we did with the US dollar term loan. We have another Canadian term loan. Again, looking at the cost, we have a mark to market that's negative in a liability position on that particular term loan, the swap related to that. We're looking at, does it make sense to refinance, repay that economically? That's another option.

We're keeping an eye on the debenture market, and right now it's very favorable and a lot of REITs have successfully raised money in the market. For us, with the recent equity offering, we have to time this appropriately. It depends largely, too, we would favor and lean towards financing, for instance, our European acquisition pipeline with financing and swapping into EUR debt. The timing of that will depend on the acquisition pipeline in Europe.

Chris Couprie
Analyst, CIBC

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Howard Leung with Veritas Investment Research. Please go ahead.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Thank you. Just wanted to touch on the comment, Kevan, you had about next year seeing property NOI growth being about 3% or 4% if you include intensifications. I guess you guys are pretty well fully leased. Would most of that 3% growth come from the rental lifts that you're seeing? If so, where, which geographies or which kind of assets are you seeing the most potential for the rental lifts?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

You're right, Howard. It would be mostly related to rental rate growth. I would point out that Novi, that 90,000 feet, that's actually really a suburban office asset. Re-leasing on that tends to move the needle on a portfolio, on our portfolio, more than any other asset. In terms of the geography, I think as I mentioned, we have a number of expiries in the GTA area, which we think are going to lead that growth. We do expect rental rate growth on renewals and re-leasing generally across all of our markets in 2020.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Great. No, that's good. Just one for Teresa. The European debt capacity there. You have about, I guess a billion, CAD 1 billion, CAD 2 billion in terms of fair value of European properties. How much more real debt can you think you can get against those properties?

Teresa Neto
CFO, Granite REIT

I'd say right now, Howard, we're pretty well fully hedged on our net investment in Europe. We probably have very little room, maybe EUR 25 million, I think right now is a good estimate. It's really looking at total net equity there, and we're fully hedged at the moment.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Okay. Yep, that makes sense. Just a last one on maybe the Finch Dean disposition. Just wondering if you could give a little bit of color on that one and why that one was sold. Did someone approach you or was it on the market?

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

We actually had it on the market both for sale and lease. We went back and forth. In the end we felt like it was probably best just to let go of this asset at this time. We made the decision to execute a sale of the asset versus re-leasing.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Okay, great. Thanks. I'll turn it back.

Operator

There are no further questions on the phone lines at this time.

Kevan Gorrie
President and CEO, Granite REIT

All right. Well, thank you, operator. On behalf of the trustees and the management team here at Granite, thank you all again for participating on our call today. To our unitholders, thank you for your continued trust and support. Have a good day.

Operator

That does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.