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Earnings Call: Q2 2018

Aug 1, 2018

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the conference call for Granite REIT. Speaking to you on the call this morning is Mike Forsayeth, Kevan Gorrie, Granite's new CEO, and Ilias Konstantopoulos, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind you that statements and information made in today's discussion may constitute forward-looking statements and forward-looking information, and that actual results could differ materially from any conclusion, forecast, or projection. These statements and information are based on certain material facts or assumptions, reflect management's current expectations, and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in Granite's material files with the Canadian Securities Administrators and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time, including the Risk Factors section of its annual information form for 2017, filed on March 1st, 2018.

Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any of these forward-looking statements and forward-looking information. Granite undertakes no intention or obligation to update or revise any of these forward-looking statements or forward-looking information, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as required by law. In addition, the remarks this morning may include financial terms and measures that do not have a standardized meaning under International Financial Reporting Standards. Please refer to the Q2 2018 condensed combined financial results and management's discussion and analysis of Granite Real Estate Investment Trust and Granite REIT Incorporated, and other materials filed with the Canadian Securities Administrators and U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission for additional relevant information. I will now turn the call over to Mike Forsayeth. Please go ahead.

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

Thank you, Jose, and nicely done. With me here today is Granite's new CEO, Kevan Gorrie, Lorne Kumer, our EVP, Head of Global Real Estate, Mike Ramparas , our VP, Global Real Estate, and Ilias Konstantopoulos, our CFO, who will be taking you through some of the details of our financial results in a couple of moments. Although today is officially Kevan's first day, I can tell you that we have been actively working with Kevan since his appointment was announced in June to ensure a smooth and successful transition. Today, since I signed off on all the Q2 filings up till yesterday, I'll give my usual report, which I'll limit to the Q2 results and subsequent events only. Then I'll turn it over to Ilias for his report, then over to Kevan for a couple of comments, after which we'll take questions. Let's get started.

From an acquisition and divestment perspective, it was busy both during and after the quarter end, and it was good busy. We acquired five warehouse and logistic properties in the United States, having a total gross leasable area of 4.2 million sq ft during the quarter. On July 12th, we acquired another 720,000 sq ft property in Germany. The total purchase price for these six properties, excluding transaction costs, was CAD 426.4 million. Together, they have an average ingoing yield of approximately 5.9% and a weighted average lease term of 7.2 years as at the date of acquisition. On July 18th, we sold a 254,000 sq ft property in Tillsonburg, Ontario, for CAD 7.2 million. You may remember that this property was previously occupied by Siemens, who a year ago gave us notice that they were exercising their early termination rights.

In addition to the two years' rent we received as a penalty, we sold the property for a nice little gain. Granite has five other properties held for sale with an aggregate value of just over CAD 334 million, representing 1.9 million sq ft of leasable area located in Canada, the U.S., and Germany. They are expected to be sold during the third quarter of 2018, one being Tillsonburg already has. These properties include Granite's two remaining special purpose properties in the U.S., for which, as we announced this past Monday, Magna has exercised their rights of first refusal to acquire them in response to a bona fide third-party offer. Total sales price of approximately CAD 341.4 million for these six properties represents a CAD 65.1 million or CAD 1.42 per stapled unit in excess of the values reported for them in Granite's 2018 first quarter report.

On a pro forma basis using gross leasable area, Granite's exposure to Magna will reduce to 49%, just under that magical 50%. The six properties held for resale contribute approximately CAD 23 million in annual revenue. As a result of the increase in taxable income generated by transactions completed in 2018 to date, and those anticipated to be completed during the remainder of 2018, Granite expects to make a special distribution to unit holders. Given the many variables in play, a lot can happen between now and the end of the year, we're not going to comment on the amount or form of consideration of such special distribution other than that it will be determined later in the year, and it will be entirely dependent on the REIT's actual taxable income for 2018. We expect that a special distribution will be declared certainly before December 31, 2018.

Turning to the results, we had another solid quarter. Not only have we been very active with sales and acquisitions, but we've also made good progress on the leasing front. Here's a quick recap of the highlights. Funds from operations on a comparable basis was CAD 0.86 per unit in the second quarter of 2018. This is against a comparable FFO of CAD 0.79 for Q2 of 2017. Strong quarter-over-quarter results in a period that saw a lot of change in the composition and quality of our portfolio. Ilias will give you more detail on the specific components of our FFO in a few moments. Our AFFO in the quarter reflects the improvement CapEx attributable to Novi and also the recently acquired property in Olive Branch, though in Mississippi, is outside of Memphis.

That was re-leased for 10 years to Milwaukee Tool, and it also includes the related leasing commission paid in respect of that lease. As just mentioned, Granite acquired five warehouse and logistic properties in the U.S., plus we closed another one in Germany a couple of weeks ago. The total purchase price for these six properties, including a planned expansion of one of them and excluding transaction costs, was approximately CAD 450 million. We have over CAD 340 million in assets held for resale. We renewed the NCIB and spent almost CAD 10 million in the quarter in unit repurchases. We have just under 700,000 sq ft of remaining 2018 lease expires to contend with. This excludes certain leases with Grupo Antolin, which are finalized, but are just out for signature. The 700,000 comprises 103,000 sq ft in Portland. That's under negotiation.

460,000 sq ft listed for lease, being Botlek in the Netherlands and a property in Tesma out in Bonn, and 130,000 sq ft, being 375 Edward and 330 Finchdene here in the GTA that we have listed for sale. We were 97.3% occupied at the end of the quarter, reflecting the recent expected lease vacancy of the tenant in our Botlek property in the Netherlands, the remaining space in Novi, a vacancy in Bonn in our Tesma campus, just mentioned, and the property in Altbach, Germany, that we are in the process of going through a complicated rezoning process. Our weighted average lease term is 5.9 years.

As a result of these announced initiatives and accomplishments, the management team, and I mean the whole Granite team, not just the work of any one individual, has made significant progress towards diversifying and enhancing the quality of Granite's real estate portfolio through the thoughtful deployment of its balance sheet and selected dispositions. With that, I'll turn it over to Ilias to go over the financial highlights for the quarter.

Ilias Konstantopoulos
CFO, Granite REIT

Thanks, Mike. Welcome, Kevan, and good morning to all. I'll briefly summarize the operating results for the second quarter of 2018, which include the impact of our recent and significant acquisition and disposition activity, as Mike referenced. Beginning with revenue. Revenue for the second quarter in 2018 increased CAD 1.6 million to CAD 62.1 million from the prior year period. The main contributing factors to the slight increase in revenue for the second quarter include the acquisition of a total of nine properties between October 2017 and May 2018, which contributed to a revenue increase of CAD 6.5 million. Recall the nine properties comprise one in Olive Branch, Mississippi, near Memphis; two in Monroe, Ohio, near the Cincinnati market; one in Plainfield, Indiana, which was acquired in March 2018; one in Greencastle, Pennsylvania, acquired in April 2018; and four near Columbus, Ohio, which we acquired in May 2018.

Another contributing factor is the contractual adjustments comprising CPI inflation and fixed contractual rent increases across our entire portfolio, which added a total of CAD 0.9 million to revenue. The leasing of most of the space in Novi that Mike referenced in January 2018 increased revenue by CAD 1.7 million. A net favorable impact in effects during the quarter of CAD 300,000 as a result of the Canadian dollar depreciating against the EUR added CAD 1 million, while the Canadian dollar strengthened against the U.S. dollar, which reduced revenue by CAD 0.7 million, netting out to CAD 0.3 million. The above-mentioned favorable factors were offset by mainly the impact of the sale of the 10 properties in Canada and the U.S. in January, which decreased revenue by CAD 7.4 million, and the vacancies from three lease expiries in Germany, Netherlands, and Canada, which decreased revenue by CAD 82,000. Turning to FFO.

For the second quarter, reported funds from operations in accordance with the REALPAC white paper definition was CAD 37.6 million or CAD 0.82 per unit relative to the reported FFO of CAD 31.6 million or CAD 0.67 per unit in the prior year period. Excluding the foreign exchange losses from the remeasurement of the US dollar cash proceeds from the sale of the investment properties in January, which amounted to $1.9 million or $0.04 per unit, FFO would have been CAD 39.5 million or CAD 0.86 per unit in the three-month period ended June 30th 2018. In comparison, excluding the proxy expenses of CAD 5.9 million or CAD 0.12 a unit in the prior year period, FFO would have been CAD 37.5 million or CAD 0.79 per unit. The corresponding FFO payout ratio for Q2 after the above-noted adjustments was 79% as compared to 82% in the prior year period. Turning over to AFFO.

For the second quarter, reported AFFO in accordance with the REALPAC's white paper definition was CAD 29.4 million or CAD 0.64 per unit relative to the reported AFFO of CAD 32.5 million or CAD 0.69 per unit in the prior year period. Excluding the FX losses from the remeasurement of the US dollar proceeds, which amounted to $1.9 million or $0.04 a share, AFFO would have been CAD 31.3 million or CAD 0.68 per unit for the three months ended June 30th. In comparison, and once again excluding the proxy contest expenses, AFFO would have been CAD 38.4 million or CAD 0.81 a unit in the prior year period. The corresponding AFFO payout ratio for the second quarter after the above-noted adjustments was 99%, as compared to 80% in the prior year period.

The higher AFFO payout ratio during Q2 2018 is a result of CAD 5.9 million higher CapEx paid relative to the improvement projects at Novi and Olive Branch, which Mike referenced, that were re-leased to a non-Magna tenant in the first quarter. Other factors impacting FFO and AFFO are further detailed and quantified in our MD&A of the Q2 financial report. Switching gears to the fair value gains. For Q2, we recorded fair value gains in connection with our investment properties totaling CAD 128 million approximately. Of this, half or roughly CAD 65 million of the gain relate to the six properties held for sale as at June 30th, namely the two special purpose buildings and the head office buildings in Aurora, Tillsonburg, and Schleiz properties that Mike also talked about. Turning to the balance sheet.

At quarter end, the IFRS value of our investment property portfolio, excluding the assets held for sale, was just over CAD 3 billion, implying an overall cap rate of 7% and which remained entirely unencumbered by any secured debt. The fair value of our investment properties benefited by about CAD 75 million worth of FX gains since the beginning of the year as a result of the Canadian dollar depreciating against both the euro and the US dollar. Our income-producing portfolio of 84 properties at quarter end comprised approximately 31.8 million sq ft, had an occupancy of 97.3% as measured by GLA, had a WALT of 5.9 years as measured by GLA, was 62% Magna-tenanted if measured by revenue, or 50% if measured by GLA. Mike mentioned the 49%. Just to clarify, that would include the pro forma impact after the second quarter.

Therefore, the 49% reference Mike makes is on a pro forma basis. Our total debt was CAD 817.6 million, which includes a CAD 77 million swap mark-to-market and a CAD 93 million facility draw. Our debt was comprised only of unsecured debt, had a weighted average term to maturity of four years, had a weighted average interest cost of 2.65%, and represents a net leverage ratio of 25%. When proceeds from the assets held for sale are netted against debt, the net leverage ratio would be 14%. This, in turn, would provide Granite with debt capacity in excess of CAD 1.25 billion at a 40% net leverage ratio target. At June 30th, 2018, Granite had available liquidity approaching CAD 800 million, CAD 50 million in the form of cash and cash equivalents, CAD 407 million from unused credit facility, and CAD 341 million from the expected proceeds from assets held for sale.

Once again, please note that the above-noted financial information and property metrics exclude the property we purchased in Erfurt, Germany subsequent to the quarter. Our credit rating is BBB mid with a stable outlook from each of DBRS and Moody's. Annualized distributions for 2018 are expected to be CAD 2.72 per unit based on the current monthly distribution amount of CAD 0.227 per unit. Recapping the total purchases made pursuant to our NCIB program. Since inception, we've purchased roughly a million and a half units for a total consideration of CAD 73 million, which works out to about CAD 49.50 per staple unit. In the six months year to date, more specifically, Granite has repurchased about 1.2 million staple units for total consideration of about CAD 61 million, which equates to CAD 49.41 per staple unit. Finally, we had 45.7 million staple units outstanding as at June 30th.

With that, I'll turn the call now over to Kevan.

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

Thanks, Ilias. Just before you go there, Ilias. What I'd like to do right now is, I'd like to think I'm leaving Granite in pretty good shape with lots of dry powder and well-positioned for continued success under Kevan's leadership. I want to say it's no secret that Kevan is a proven leader who brings a broad range of experience in all aspects of the industrial asset class, and in particular, logistics and e-commerce applications. I want to say that this makes him a great fit for Granite and for our management team. I'll turn it over to Kevan.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. Good morning, everyone. I'll keep my prepared comments very brief, obviously having been in the seat, albeit officially, all of 45 minutes. First of all, I'd like to thank Kelly and the Board of Trustees for their efforts in bringing me together with Granite. This is an exceptional team, a truly exciting opportunity. I would also like to thank Mike and the team for their support during the transition. It is not an easy thing. Mike and everyone else in the organization have been extremely professional and supportive at every turn. We have truly a talented and dedicated team of industrial real estate professionals, the future is very bright.

I also wish to acknowledge the tremendous progress that has been made by Mike and the team over the past 12 months in reducing our exposure to Magna as a tenant and replacing that income with modern logistics product and tenancies in leading markets. It is certainly a good problem to have when a lot of your income is being delivered by such a creditworthy tenant. We will continue on that path of rebalancing under my leadership through dispositions, acquisitions, and development in select major markets, with a focus certainly on modern logistics and e-commerce. My focus over the next 60 to 90 days will be to continue to familiarize myself with the team, get to know them, and let them get to know me and understand our current real estate portfolio.

As well, I will meet with a number of our investors over the coming weeks to listen to their views on Granite and our direction. I will then work with our team and the Board to formalize a strategy that will plot our course for the next number of years. With that being said, we do not plan on being complacent in the near term. Although we will continue to be thoughtful in our approach on new acquisition opportunities, we have an industry-leading balance sheet and enormous spend strength. We're not afraid to use them. Thank you. I will now turn it over to the operator for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to register a question, please press the one followed by the four on your telephone. You'll hear a 3-tone prompt to acknowledge your request. If your question has been answered and you'd like to withdraw your registration, please press the one followed by the three. If you're using a speakerphone, please lift your handset before entering your request. Once again, to register a question, press one, four on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from the line of Sam Damiani of TD Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you. Good morning. Mike, congratulations on your retirement. Kevan, congratulations and welcome to Granite. Kevan, first question's for you. Granite has communicated a strategy regarding leverage and Magna exposure historically. I'm just wondering if you could give us at least your initial thoughts today on that strategy and how you see implementing that in the near term.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Well, I appreciate it. It is a valid question, but it is still very early days. I would say this, though, Sam, I feel like referencing the Hippocratic oath. The first thing a doctor should do is no harm. I'm not looking to break the bank. I don't feel any urgency to necessarily get money out the door and deploy it. I do feel like we have tremendous firepower, as Mike referenced, through the recent sales particularly, and we are looking at a number of very interesting opportunities. A number of these opportunities came to us before my arrival here. We will continue to pursue them. I think they're in key markets that will be key markets for us in the future.

We expect to be active over the next 90 days, despite the fact we still have to formalize the strategy, and that will include balance sheet deployment, including payout ratio, leverage, et cetera.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Thank you. That is helpful. Look forward to more on that, I guess, as you formulate, I guess, discuss with the board and whatnot after you've sort of seen all the properties and whatnot. Just one follow-up. There's been a lot of leasing to do in 2018. Just wondering if you could comment on the average renewal uplift that you've experienced so far.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Yeah. Sam, I'll take that. The average uplift's been about 5% that we've seen to date in the recent renewals. We've still got a couple left to finalize as it relates to just negotiating that fair market rent. We've seen some, as it relates to the 2018 expiries, a nice lift.

Sam Damiani
Analyst, TD Securities

Great. Thank you. I'll turn it back.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Markidis of Desjardins Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Michael Markidis
Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. Kevan, I was just curious. I know it's early days, but if you look at, you had a very successful run in your prior post, and there was certainly a strategy and a level of activity that you employed there. Notwithstanding the differences between PURE's business and what Granite has today, I'm just wondering within North America, how the industrial markets in North America may have changed over the past year or so, and how that might impact your thought process with respect to where the right places to allocate capital will be going forward.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Well, Mark, it's a good question. I think what we've seen over the past 12 months is continued strengthening, I would say effectively across all markets in North America, particularly the big six in the U.S. In Canada, Toronto and Vancouver certainly have seen the greatest growth. I do think that that trend will continue. If you look at the Canadian markets, e-commerce has become much more of a factor over the past 24 months. That will continue, obviously, as Amazon and Wayfair and others expand their presence in Canada. Then you have the other retailers that are catching up and improving their supply chain and responding to e-commerce demand from their customers. I certainly think that will continue. What we see, or I have seen also continued growth in the major U.S. markets, in the markets that Granite frankly has been active in.

I think that the opportunities in North America will continue to be exciting. I do personally hope to be more active in Canada over the coming years. I do not see us stopping. We may not be as active every quarter, but I do not see us halting our growth in the U.S.

Michael Markidis
Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets

Okay, that's helpful. Thanks. Just maybe a question for everybody or Ilias, but just given that you have three segments of properties, but the, at least by fair value and catching up on income contribution, the modern logistics and warehouse properties are certainly becoming more prominent for Granite. Some of these properties have been recently acquired, but Granite's also acquired some or has owned some for a period of time. Curious if you could give us some insight into what, for that segment, the same property N OI growth profile is shaping up to be?

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

I'll take that, Michael. I think the year-over-year increase in that on the profile is probably 1%-2% overall. It depends, as you would know, on the specific market itself. The profile of that, I'd say, in the near term is 1%-2%.

Michael Markidis
Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets

Okay. Has there been any recent leases or leasing activity on renewals or new leases where you've seen significant lift that you can cite?

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

No, not on that portfolio specifically, as I mentioned, the ones for 2018 that have come up, we have seen strong lifts on those leases.

Michael Markidis
Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets

Okay. Last question from me before I turn it back. Just on the special purpose facilities that you've sold this year, I guess the three earlier this year that went to a third party, well, Magna being a third party, went to someone other than Magna and the recent two that went to Magna. Were these unsolicited offers, or were you guys out there actively marketing them?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Unsolicited.

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

I'd say it's a unsolicited offer, Mike.

Michael Markidis
Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets

Unsolicited? Okay. When you look at the two special purpose facilities that Magna's acquired, was there anything that you can see that was different for those two versus the ones where they, I guess, elected not to exercise their right of first refusal on the other two?

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

Hard to say. I think you'd have to ask Magna.

Michael Markidis
Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets

Yeah. No, that's fair. Okay. Just was interested to get some color if you had any, that's it for me. Thanks, I'll turn it back.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mark Rothschild of Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Mark Rothschild
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Thanks. Good morning, everyone, and welcome, Kevan. It sounds like, Kevan, that you were somewhat involved of late in looking at the acquisitions. When I see the REIT buying properties in Germany or in Europe, would that imply that you plan on being a more global REIT as opposed to just focused in North America?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Well, Mark, I was not involved in the acquisition specifically in Germany. That was something that was done or sourced before my time. I will say it is early days to kind of plot long-term strategy, but what we're going to be focused on in the near term certainly is continuing to strengthen the portfolios that we have, and that certainly includes Europe. I'm very happy with that acquisition in Erfurt. It is becoming a real strong e-commerce node for the market. We'll continue to build out those portfolios in the near term and continue to strengthen them. Long term, still to be seen, but in the near term, that's our goal.

Mark Rothschild
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay. I see obviously, understandably, you're somewhat reluctant to talk about strategy because it is your first day. As far as the special purpose properties, would you view those long term as core properties that you would want to own, or would you be in favor of getting out of owning those types of properties?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

That would be an easy question if they weren't some of them weren't so bulky and large. Again, I think that that is still a strategy question. I will say this, the color I will provide here is I think the progress and the direction that has been made under Mike's leadership will continue. I think the end game is to have the best platform possible in your markets, and we will continue to do that. I think modern logistics and e-commerce is going to be our focus. Those special purpose entities are going to have a hard time finding a core position in that type of portfolio.

Mark Rothschild
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Just lastly, you talked about growing in Canada. You obviously know these markets well. Toronto and Vancouver prices have gone up quite significantly of late. Do you still see value in these markets considering the strength, or would you call these markets maybe a little expensive now?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

I would call them expensive now, I will say, I think we've seen very strong rental growth in the markets. Even when I was at Pure Industrial, we saw strong rental growth in Toronto and Vancouver. I do believe that Calgary and Edmonton, this is just my personal view, I believe that Calgary and Edmonton will be strong markets, particularly Calgary, over the next five years. They may lead the country in terms of growth coming out of the weakness that oil has delivered on them. Even though the cap rates may appear on the surface to be very low, and they are, certainly I think that there is growth potential. We'll have to look at that. Probably more development in the program over the coming years. We have the bench strength to do it. We should use it, we should leverage it.

We have, and I think we'll continue to do that and maybe increase that part of our program. I think there are ways to deliver good growth and good returns in Canada. We have to be obviously very selective in what we do.

Mark Rothschild
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Got it. Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Howard Leung of Veritas Investment Research. Please proceed with your question.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Thank you. Congratulations, Mike, on your retirement, and welcome, Kevan. Kevan, just wanted to ask about, what's your view of the ideal Magna exposure over time? You mentioned this focus on the modern warehouse, but Magna's also a good tenant to have. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on that.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Again, these are all good questions. I don't have an answer to a specific number, but I will tell you, I do agree. These special purpose entities, light manufacturing and manufacturing have a place in my mind, any good industrial portfolio. There's not an industrial portfolio out there, whether it's Prologis or Duke or Goodman's or others, that does not have a component of manufacturing. These are somewhat specialized assets to be sure, but the tenancy is quite sticky. It is not uncommon, and as I've learned more about Magna, it is quite common for the tenant to invest more behind the doors than the value of the property. That, to me, provides an extremely sticky tenancy and stable cash flow, and a growing cash flow. It will have a place. That number, I don't know specifically what the right number is.

I do know that we're moving in the right direction, certainly under 50% is where we should be.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Okay. No, that's really helpful. On that, the recent special purpose property, they were sold, I think the cap rate was 6.9%. The remaining portfolio of special purpose properties that Granite still had, do you expect any further cap rate compression on there?

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

I don't think so. It's Mike. I think the sale of the special purpose properties both in January and Magna's interest in also wanting to acquire the two in the U.S., gives certainly additional perspective in terms of value as it relates to the remaining special purpose properties. I'll leave it at that. I think it's important to note that we're now down to a handful on the special purpose. We've got two in Graz, we've got Lannach in Austria, Oberhausen in Germany, Albersdorf in Austria, and we've got the Milton properties. The number is down, the percentage is down, the covenant of Magna is very strong.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Yeah. If I could add something to that, too, is when I joined and learned that an asset like Tillsonburg was sold, I was quite happy about it, I will tell you. I didn't realize it was that small, owning an asset like this in Austria or Germany, to me, is a completely different story than owning an asset like this in Tillsonburg or Bowling Green. I think, you know what I mean? I think the urgency around Graz, to me, is much, much less than you would see. I think the way the team has done this has been pretty exceptional. I may disagree with Mike on the cap rate. I think what we're seeing, and I don't know this, but I think what we're seeing through these sales is a lot of interest.

Number one, a lot of interest in stable cash flows, a belief in Magna, and they obviously feel, and the investors are out there that feel that this is such a stable credit and there is such stickiness around this location and the assets, that they're going to be there for a very long time and continue to generate superior cash flows. I think there is interest in the other assets, or there will be interest in the other assets. Again, owning these in Germany and Austria and not being subject to a lot of the discussions we're having around trade disagreements in North America, kind of separates them from the assets that have been sold recently.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Right. That's really good. Thanks for the color, guys. Just one more for Ilias, maybe. I saw that you mentioned that there was gains on sales and future gains over the year that may need a special distribution. There's also over CAD 200 million of, I think, capital loss carryforwards that initially said that it might not be able to be applied. Do you think they could be applied maybe to offset some of those, for the need for special distributions?

Ilias Konstantopoulos
CFO, Granite REIT

Short answer is, it's factored in. The capital losses sit in an entity that don't naturally lend themselves to being used specifically for the special distribution, Howard. Rest assured, though, that we are constantly looking at ways to manage the tax profile in a way that it's optimal for our unit owners.

Howard Leung
Analyst, Veritas Investment Research

Okay. No, that's really helpful. Thanks, guys. I'll turn it back.

Operator

Once again, to register your question, press 14 on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Pammi Bir of Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Pammi Bir
Analyst, Scotiabank

Thanks. Good morning. Just maybe going back to the fair value gain booked in the quarter. I believe you mentioned half is from the pending asset sales and the rest from changes in assumptions. Based on your current assumptions, do you feel that there's room for upside in any of those values, perhaps on the other 2 property types and not necessarily the SPPs? If so, which of the 2 property types, modern warehouse or the multipurpose, do you feel that you've been the most conservative?

Lorne Kumer
EVP of Global Real Estate, Granite REIT

Do you want me to take a stab at that?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Take a stab at it.

Lorne Kumer
EVP of Global Real Estate, Granite REIT

Yes to your first part, there is upside, certainly more to the modern. It's a loaded question as to how much upside. I think what we're trying to do, Pammi, is put out what is a best estimate and judgment that is defensible. I think we've done that. I think the process that we go through perhaps will be helpful. We get intelligence from whether it's precedent transactions or appraisals, et cetera. We do that regularly. Every quarter, we step back and go through the process of property by property, challenging ourselves to see that we're reflecting the current reality, which I think is what we're trying to capture. This all being said, we think there's upside, particularly in the category 1 in terms of, again, the modern logistics, that is.

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

Well, I'll add just a little bit to that. One, certainly the GTA, assets in the GTA, we've seen some lift there. There's been continued lift there. The other aspect that's been influencing is we've had good success on the leasing front, with lease terms and with some rental growth in certain areas. You're seeing that being reflected in the current numbers.

Pammi Bir
Analyst, Scotiabank

Thanks. That's very helpful. Just coming back again to the, I guess, potential asset sales. Can you comment on whether there's been any approaches or perhaps any discussions with potential interested parties on the remaining special purpose assets in Canada, Germany or Austria?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

No.

Pammi Bir
Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay. Last one from me. Just looking at that Dutch vacancy, I think it's one property, but can you comment on where you are in terms of the re-leasing progress there?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

I'll let Lorne answer that.

Lorne Kumer
EVP of Global Real Estate, Granite REIT

The tenant has left now. It is listed for lease. It's early days since the tenant left, but we have had some activity. We've had a couple tours of a local player who's looking at a consolidation and is going on a second tour, and there's an additional regional player that's looking at a consolidation of three logistic facilities and is also interested. It's still early days, but we're pleased with the initial traffic through the property.

Pammi Bir
Analyst, Scotiabank

Would you be confident to say that there's a good chance that that should get re-leased before year-end?

Lorne Kumer
EVP of Global Real Estate, Granite REIT

That's certainly our intention. Obviously, we don't have any control over it, but our goal is to have a new tenant in place, maybe not in occupancy, but in place by the end of the year.

Pammi Bir
Analyst, Scotiabank

Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Troy MacLean of BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Troy MacLean
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Good morning. For the acquisitions you're looking at now, generally speaking, would you say cap rates are in line with what you've acquired so far in 2018, kind of in the mid 5s, or have cap rates compressed over the last three or four months?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

It's Kevan, Troy. I think they're in that range.

Troy MacLean
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

You talked about maybe doing more development. What kind of yield spread would you want taking on development risk versus acquisitions?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

It's dependent on the markets. It's dependent on the opportunity. I would say there are some markets where leasing activity is so strong that the development spread might be 50 basis points. Where you might want to wait longer, or the markets aren't quite as frothy, might be 100 basis points, 125 basis points. It's kind of in that range. It's highly dependent on the market and the opportunity.

Troy MacLean
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Would you consider JVs for development going forward, or would that be just for Granite only?

Kevan Gorrie
CEO, Granite REIT

No, we would consider JVs. I say that because it depends very much on who has control of the opportunity. There are times where you've had such a belief in a site or in a market, and it's controlled by a developer. As long as you have the right relationship, and you get the right outcome out of it, we'd certainly be open to those relationships.

Troy MacLean
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Thank you. That's it for me.

Operator

Okay. There are no further questions at this time.

Mike Forsayeth
Former CEO, Granite REIT

Okay. Well, thank you, Jose. Maybe in closing, I'd just like to take the opportunity to thank everyone I've worked with at Granite, past, present, in Canada, the U.S., and Europe, for their support of me and certainly in their contribution in making Granite what it is today. It's been a very good run. Lastly, I wish Kevan, the board, and certainly the whole Granite team, every success in the years to come. With that, we'll sign off. Thanks very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.