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Earnings Call: Q1 2025

Apr 15, 2025

Operator

Good day, and welcome to PrairieSky Royalty Ltd announcing their first quarter 2025 financial results. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would like to turn the call over to Andrew Phillips, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Thank you, Michelle, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for dialing into the PrairieSky Q1 2025 conference call. On the call from PrairieSky are Pam Kazeil, Dan Bertram, Mike Murphy, and myself, Andrew Phillips. Before we begin, there is certain forward-looking information and statements in our commentary today, so I'd ask listeners and investors to review the forward-looking statements qualifier in our press release and MD&A, which can be found on our website. PrairieSky achieved record oil volumes of 13,502 barrels per day of net royalty production in the first quarter of 2025. Over 200 wells were spud in Q1, an increase of 26 wells from the same period in 2024. The average royalty rate on these new wells was 6.9% versus 6% last year. Fifty-two new leases with 39 counterparties were signed, generating CAD 5 million in lease issuance bonus.

Notably, in the quarter, we closed the Petro-Canada fee title package in Southeast Saskatchewan for CAD 50 million. This asset is only 20% leased, which represents an opportunity for the team to lease the asset and achieve leasing percentage similar to our corporate average. We also acquired 3.4 million PrairieSky shares prior to the CAD 0.26 dividend, giving remaining shareholders an additional 1.4% interest in the business. We view this as an acquisition of 259,000 royalty acres in the best parts of the basin. We have also quietly added well over 100,000 acres of oil sands leases over a three-year period, well below where current values sit at Crown Land Auctions. This has added years of new economic drilling inventory on a two- to three-times recycle ratio heavy oil asset. Subsequent to quarter-end, oil prices have declined, and there has been significant market volatility.

Our well-capitalized counterparties and strong balance sheet will allow us to be resilient and take advantage of further disconnects in value. There's an advantage to owning hard assets with long-duration profiles at all parts of the cycle. With decades of economic inventory and 98% operating margins, short-term price swings both up and down have less of an effect on PrairieSky's value. Our Investor Day is on May 14th in Calgary at the Brookfield building and will be available via webcast as well. We will publish our new royalty asset book, which details known asset values based on today's discovered resource. We will also provide owners with a range of outcomes for the next 10 years. Thank you to our investors for their support and our employees for their continued execution and hard work. I'll now turn the call over to Pam to walk through the financials.

Pam Kazeil
Senior Vice President of Finance and CFO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone. PrairieSky's royalty production averaged 25,339 BOE per day in the quarter. Our percentage of liquids royalty production has been steadily climbing over the last three years from 58% in Q1 2022 to 63% today. It was another record quarter of oil royalty production, which averaged 13,502 barrels per day and included 177 barrels per day of production from our CAD 50 million acquisition of fee lands and GORR interests that closed on January 10th. As Andrew mentioned, it was an active quarter with 200 spuds on our lands at an average rate of 6.9%. Activity was focused in the Clearwater, Duvernay, and Mannville heavy and light oil plays. We've seen a decline in natural gas volumes, which averaged 55.9 million a day as compared to Q1 2024. Q1 2025 volumes included an estimate of cold weather downtime in the quarter of 1.1 million a day.

There were 14 natural gas wells spud in the quarter, primarily in the Montney, which we anticipate will come on production later in the year. Duvernay and Viking wells will also provide incremental solution gas volumes. Royalty production revenue totaled CAD 119.9 million and was 93% from liquids. With narrowed heavy oil differentials, our realized price for oil increased to 87% of WTI from 84% in Q1 2024. Other revenue totaled CAD 8.2 million and included CAD 5 million of bonus consideration. Leasing was primarily focused in the Duvernay light oil and Mannville heavy oil plays. During the quarter, PrairieSky's funds from operations totaled CAD 85.8 million, and we declared dividends of CAD 61.2 million or CAD 0.26 per share, with a resulting payout ratio of 71%. We repurchased and canceled 3.4 million shares in the quarter for CAD 90 million.

Our current NCIB expires in early June, and we intend to apply to the TSX to renew it. PrairieSky's balance sheet remains strong with net debt at March 31 of CAD 258.8 million. We will now turn it over to the moderator to proceed with the Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 11. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, please press star 11 again. Our first question comes from Patrick O'Rourke with ATB Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Patrick O'Rourke
Managing Director of Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Hey, guys. Good morning and thanks for the rundown. Just wanted to ask him maybe, you know, first off, more of a broad philosophical question, but we saw a bit of a shift in free cash flow policy here with dipping into the NCIB in the quarter. Just sort of, you know, wondering how you think about where the net debt is here, sustainability, sort of break-even prices on the dividend, and then sort of the appetite to dig into the NCIB here over the rest of the year versus a focus on paying down debt.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yeah, no, thanks for the question, Patrick, and good morning. I think the NCIB, again, we view it more as an acquisition. We look at our business currently, and it's outpacing the basin in terms of growth by 200%-300% on any given year. Again, we're effectively buying the best assets in the basin. You add on the free cash flow yield, you're kind of in the teens for total returns. That's our hurdle rate. It's more challenging to find assets that look as good as the current PrairieSky suite of assets. I think, again, you know, no different than we used a bit of leverage in COVID, knowing we could pay it down in a short period of time. We're willing to do that to use the NCIB and buy stock below intrinsic value when the opportunities arise.

Patrick O'Rourke
Managing Director of Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Just to follow up on that, have you guys stress-tested sort of your cash flows for break-even oil prices in this choppy environment?

Pam Kazeil
Senior Vice President of Finance and CFO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yes, we have, Patrick, and the dividend is, you know, sustainable well below CAD 50.

Patrick O'Rourke
Managing Director of Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Excellent. And then just second question here. You know, you guys are typically at the cutting edge of trends that we're seeing in the basin. You know, we have the multilateral development both in the Clearwater, Mannville, West Shale, Duvernay has been successful for you. I think we've seen a little bit of CHOPS activity or a renaissance there on some of your lands. Can you maybe walk through what's going on there from a technical perspective and, you know, sort of what the volume of potential locations and opportunity set is?

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yeah, no, thanks for the question. It's a great question. I think it is one of the assets that we kind of saw as a big resource, of course, when we acquired those heavy oil assets both from CNRL and then Heritage. We have in the range of 600,000 acres in the broader area, including in the Saskatchewan side. That stuff we did not put any value on when we were acquiring it because it was cold flow heavy oil production and there is a lot of sand that comes along with it. Operators are now running horizontal single legs and they are running liners and they are putting in circulation strings. They are effectively kind of circulating over the backside to clean out the sand consistently and they are getting very good results. What it really does is opens up an entire new fairway of opportunities.

We don't have a number, but it's in the hundreds, probably some days north of 1,000 new locations over time on our lands. It won't be part of this current playbook because I think it's just being refined in terms of technological advancements. It kind of really just steps back to the thesis. One of the things we've always tried to do at PrairieSky is when we acquire assets, we like big pay packages and lots of large oil in place assets that we think can ultimately be exploited. You know, similar to what we talked about in Saskatchewan where we've done over seven different leases for steam-assisted gravity drainage for these small modular type projects. On the Alberta side, we've actually identified a number of opportunities for small-scale SAGD as well in zones like the Rex and the Lloydminster.

I think, you know, as technology improves, we're believers that a lot of this large oil in place will be exploited.

Patrick O'Rourke
Managing Director of Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you very much.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Thanks for your question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Aaron Bilkoski with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Aaron Bilkoski
Managing Director covering Energy Services and Infrastructure, TD Cowen

Perfect. Thanks. I just wanted to follow up on Patrick's question and get a little bit more clarity to make sure I understand what you said. Am I correct to assume that you're saying you're willing to take on a little bit of incremental debt to repurchase shares if they're at the right valuation?

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

That's correct.

Aaron Bilkoski
Managing Director covering Energy Services and Infrastructure, TD Cowen

Perfect. I have another question too. Of the net wells drilled on your lands in Q1, how many or what percentage of that would be from the Willesden Green window at the Duvernay? And what would that have been a year ago?

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yeah. Probably the best thing to talk about is last year in the Willesden Green Duvernay, we had, including Paramount, we had seven wells total drilled on the lands. This year we expect 19. They'll come on across the entire year. Again, when their spud is not necessarily indicative of when they'll go on production. We did have an active program. Mike, I think, was the exact number in Q1.

Mike Murphy
VP of Geosciences and Capital Markets, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yeah, yeah. Aaron, it's Mike here. Yeah, I believe approximately 14 Duvernay wells were spud in the Willesden Green area in Q1, and that would have been higher than last year. What's important about these 14, it'd be higher royalty interest as well compared to, you know, what we would have seen previously.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yeah. Of course, depending on the timing, Aaron, these could drift all the way into Q3 just given the very large fracs, and they typically do them as a big program. It is very positive. I think it is because they are such high-rate wells and because we have high royalties, you will see some significant spikes in production throughout the year.

Patrick O'Rourke
Managing Director of Institutional Equity Research, ATB Capital Markets

Perfect. Thanks, guys. I appreciate that.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Thanks for the question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jamie Kubik with CIBC. Your line is open.

Jamie Kubik
Director of Institutional Equity Research, CIBC

Yeah. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question here. Just a bit of a follow-on to Aaron's question there. You did disclose 15 well spud in the Duvernay light oil play. Based on my count, that's more than double what you've sort of ever reported. Can you just talk about where that you expect that to trend for the rest of the year? Is this a bit of a one-time item in terms of ramp-up for the different operators in the play, or how can you talk about licensing activity and what you see going forward there? Thanks.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

You bet. No, thanks for the question. I think, you know, it'll be very steady on the East Shale Basin, so we should see five to seven new wells, perhaps even as high as 10 this year on the East Shale Basin side. When you jump to the West Shale Basin, where all the new leasing activity's been and where there's been some really exceptional results, we think that could ramp again next year. In 2026, you could have a full doubling of that program just given the very economic wells and the high-rate light oil wells that have been drilled in the area. One of the producers to the north signed a take-pay with a midstreamer for their liquids. The central one, Spartan Delta, has had some excellent results and is in a very good part of the play.

Paramount, of course, is upgrading their Leafland facility and getting their gas takeaway taken care of. We do expect activity to continue to ramp in the Duvernay in general, Jamie.

Jamie Kubik
Director of Institutional Equity Research, CIBC

That's great. On the Mannville stack, you have a slide in your presentation just showing how substantial the growth has been from 2022 to 2024. Based on that chart as well, volumes have plateaued a little bit since Q2 of last year. Can you just talk a little bit about where you expect production from this play to move to in the coming years and perhaps some additional detail on things that are going on in that part of your asset base?

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yeah, Jamie, it's Mike here. Yeah, we see, you know, the Mannville stack as having potential to have, you know, volumes approaching that of the Clearwater. You know, in that chart that you saw, it did look like, you know, production plateauing a bit. We still expect pretty strong growth in 2025. It's not going to be, you know, the 70% we saw last year, but somewhere between 30-50% would be reasonable. You know, we only saw probably seven or eight Mannville stack spuds in Q1, but we expect a pretty active program for the rest of the year, similar to last year or stronger.

Jamie Kubik
Director of Institutional Equity Research, CIBC

Yeah. Actually.

It's all for me.

Go ahead.

Yeah. Just one other comment on that. At our Investor Day on May 14th, we're going to have three CEOs present: Fotis from Spartan Delta, Ian Currie from Spur, and then also Tom Bieschke from Caltex Trilogy. It'll be a great opportunity to really get some color on the Mannville stack and just the amount and quantum of drilling locations that they've uncovered just in their general area. Of course, CNRL has a massive amount of drilling inventory on PrairieSky fee m ineral title and GORR interests. It'll be a good opportunity to kind of hear it from the producer that's grown the fastest in the region. That's less than one month away. Hopefully we can, you can ask the same question to someone who's actually spending the capital.

Okay. Great. Thanks for the additional color. I'll hand it back.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeremy McCrea with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Jeremy McCrea
Managing Director of Equity Research, BMO Capital Markets

Hey, guys. Just with the decline in oil prices here recently, have you seen any indications that you're seeing a bit of a slowdown? Like, I know most of your lands are in pretty economic plays, and so there's a bit of a debate saying, you know, how much of a slowdown do we potentially see? I'm just, have any operators expressed that? Part two of that is with the rebound in natural gas prices, are you seeing any more operators express interest in developing more of the gas assets that you have here, specifically maybe in the Montney?

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Yeah. Just to touch on the second question, on the gas side, we have a significant Montney development, both Pacific Canbriam, but also Coelacanth has some wells coming on. We do have some significant Montney volumes coming on, and those were drilled in advance of this gas price run-up. That will be positive for them, assuming that hangs in there at the AECO basis level. On the oil side, I think it is probably too early for operators to have made any shifts. We have not been told of any shifts. I think some of our privates will drill right through this just given their, you know, net cash positions and very economic wells. Certainly you would expect to see some activity fall off somewhere throughout the year with the big drawdown in WTI prices, but we have not heard of anything yet.

I think what makes it a little easier for operators is we're heading into spring break up right now as we speak. There is going to be the natural every year slowdown as rigs drop because of road bans, and that'll give people a chance to regroup and really understand what they want to do for the rest of the year. Interestingly enough, a lot of our producers are in exceptional shape going into this one. It was a different story going into COVID when they had stretched balance sheets in some cases going into it. We will see how the rest of the year kind of unfolds, but we haven't heard of anything, any major changes yet.

Jeremy McCrea
Managing Director of Equity Research, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. Perfect. Thanks, Andrew.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Thanks for the question, Jeremy.

Operator

Thank you. I'm sure no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Andrew Phillips for any closing remarks.

Andrew Phillips
President and CEO, PrairieSky Royalty Ltd

Thank you all very much for dialing into the early morning conference call. Hope everyone has a great day and hope to see a number of you at our Investor Day.

Operator

Thank you for your participation. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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