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Earnings Call: Q3 2024

Nov 5, 2024

Operator

Thank you for attending Wajax Corporation's 2024 Q3 Financial Results Webcast. On today's webcast will be Mr. Iggy Domagalski, President and CEO , Mr. Stuart Auld, CFO , and Ms. Tania Casadinho, VP Corporate Controller. Please be advised that this webcast is being recorded. Please note that this webcast contains forward-looking statements. Actual future results may differ from expected results. I will now turn the call over to Tania Casadinho.

Tania Casadinho
VP Corporate Controller, Wajax

Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for participating in our Q3 results call. This afternoon, we will be following a webcast which includes a summary presentation of Wajax's Q3 2024 financial results. The presentation can be found on our website under Investor Relations, Events, and Presentations. To begin, I would like to draw your attention to our cautionary statement regarding forward-looking information on Slide two and the non-GAAP and other financial measures on Slide three. Please turn to Slide four, and at this point, I'll turn the call over to Iggy.

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

Thank you, Tania. I will provide highlights on our Q3 before turning it over to Stu for commentary on backlog, inventory, and the balance sheet. This slide provides an overview of Wajax. The corporation has 166 years of Canadian operating history and operates across 116 branches with a team of more than 3,100 employees. During the quarter, our heavy equipment categories and revenue sources made up approximately 55% of our total revenue, while industrial parts and ERS generated approximately 45%. Turning to Slide five, this slide provides an overview of our purpose and values. Wajax's purpose statement is "Empowering people to build a better tomorrow," which we strive to achieve by living our values and delivering an exceptional experience for our people, customers, suppliers, and the communities we serve. By living our purpose and values, we'll continue to build a people-first company that is strong, resilient, and profitable.

Our purpose and values guide our decision-making and allow us to execute on our strategic priorities. Turning to Slide six, this slide provides an overview of our strategic priorities, which were refreshed and enhanced in 2023. Management is completely focused on executing against these priorities. Between our purpose and values and these six priorities, we have the foundation to continue growing our company for many years to come. Turning to Slide seven, in the Q3, Wajax saw lower revenues and gross profit margins, which were offset partially by lower selling and administrative expenses. Revenue of CAD 481 million decreased CAD 28.7 million in the quarter. The decrease resulted primarily from lower mining equipment sales in Western Canada, driven largely by the sale of a large mining shovel in the Q3 of the prior year, with no such sale in the current year.

Lower product support sales in Western Canada, lower ERS sales in Eastern Canada, and lower industrial parts sales in all regions. These decreases were offset partially by higher equipment sales in construction and forestry category in Western and Eastern Canada. Gross profit margin of 19.2% decreased 300 basis points compared to the same period of 2023, driven primarily by a higher proportion of equipment sales relative to product support, industrial parts, and ERS sales. In addition, increased market pressures resulted in lower margins realized on product support and industrial parts sales. These decreases were partially offset by higher margins on ERS sales. Selling and administrative expenses, as a percentage of revenue, decreased to 14.7% in the Q3 of 2024 from 14.9% in the Q3 of 2023.

Selling and administrative expenses in the Q3 of 2024 decreased CAD 5 million, or 6.6%, compared to the Q3 of 2023, due primarily to lower personnel costs driven largely by cost-saving initiatives implemented in the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA of CAD 37.4 million decreased CAD 12.6 million, or 25.3%, from the Q3 of 2023, noting the adjustments recorded on this chart. Decrease resulted primarily from lower sales volumes and lower gross profit margins, offset partially by lower selling and administrative expenses. Adjusted net earnings of CAD 0.44 per share decreased 54.2%, or CAD 0.52 per share from the Q3 of 2023, noting the adjustments recorded on this chart. At the end of Q3, the TRIF rate was 0.91, a decrease of 13% from the Q3 of 2023. The Q3 TRIF rate was up 12% from the Q2 of 2024.

Safety continues to be Wajax's number one priority, and Management is committed to continuously improving our safety program to improve on this result. We thank everyone on our team for their ongoing dedication to workplace safety. Turning to Slide eight, revenue decreased 5.6% in the Q3 resulted from lower revenue in all regions. Western Canada sales of CAD 210 million decreased 10% in the quarter, due primarily to lower mining equipment sales driven largely by the sale of a large mining shovel in the Q3 of the prior year, with no such sale in the current year, lower industrial parts sales, and lower product support sales. These decreases were partially offset by higher equipment sales in the construction and forestry category. Central Canada sales of CAD 88 million decreased 3.9% in the quarter, due primarily to lower industrial parts sales.

Eastern Canada sales of CAD 183 million decreased 1.1% in the quarter, due primarily to lower industrial parts and ERS sales, partially offset by higher equipment sales in the construction and forestry category. Please turn to Slide nine. An update on equipment and product support sales and year-over-year variances are shown on this page. Equipment sales of CAD 132 million increased CAD 6 million, or 5%, compared to last year, due primarily to higher construction and forestry equipment sales in Western and Eastern Canada and higher material handling sales in Central Canada.

These increases were partially offset by lower mining sales in Western Canada, driven largely by the sale of a large mining shovel in the Q3 of the prior year, with no such sale in the current year. Product support of CAD 123 million decreased CAD 12 million, or 9%, compared to last year, due to lower sales in most categories and regions. Please turn to Slide 10. An update on industrial parts and ERS sales and year-over-year variances are shown on this page. Industrial parts sales of approximately CAD 136 million decreased CAD 25 million, or 15%, due to market conditions that were less favorable than expected. Turning to Slide 11, this slide summarizes sales at a category level for our company's overall groupings of heavy equipment and industrial parts and services.

In the Q3, the heavy equipment categories decreased CAD 6 million, or 2%, driven primarily by lower mining equipment sales in Western Canada, driven largely by the sale of a large mining shovel in the Q3 of the prior year, with no such sale in the current year. The decrease was offset partially by higher construction and forestry equipment sales in Western Canada and Eastern Canada, and higher material handling sales in Central Canada. Industrial parts and service categories decreased CAD 23 million, or 10%, driven by lower industrial parts sales in all regions, due to market conditions that were less favorable than expected. These less cyclical categories remain a core element of our broader growth strategy. I'll now turn the call over to Stu.

Stuart Auld
CFO and IT Officer, Wajax

Thanks, Iggy. Please turn to Slide 12 for my comments on backlog and inventory. Our Q3 backlog of CAD 588.1 million increased CAD 43.3 million, or 7.9%, compared to backlog of CAD 544 million at Q2, and decreased CAD 11.1 million on a year-over-year basis. The sequential increase was due primarily to higher construction and forestry, and mining orders offset partially by lower material handling and ERS orders. The year-over-year decrease was due to lower construction and forestry, material handling, ERS, and industrial parts orders, offset partially by higher mining orders. Currently, the corporation has seven large mining shovels in backlog to be delivered over the next seven quarters. Inventory decreased CAD 0.8 million compared to Q2 2024, as Management continues to focus on reducing and managing the corporation's inventory levels.

At the end of the quarter, the corporation had a large mining shovel in inventory that is expected to be delivered in the Q4 of 2024. Inventory decreased to CAD 65.1 million compared to Q3 2023, due to increases in most categories, offset partially by lower forestry equipment inventory. Please turn to Slide 13, where I'll provide an update on cash flow leverage and working capital. Cash flows used in operating activities in the quarter of CAD 34.5 million compared with cash flows used in operating activities of CAD 62 million in the same quarter of the prior year. The increase in cash generated of CAD 27.5 million was mainly attributable to a decrease in cash used in non-cash operating working capital, offset partially by lower earnings.

Our Q3 leverage ratio increased to 2.78 x from 2.17 x in Q2, due to the higher debt level and lower trailing 12-month pro forma adjusted EBITDA. The corporation's leverage ratio is currently outside our target range of 1.5x to 2x at the end of Q3, primarily due to the investment in working capital during the year and acquisitions completed in 2020. Our available credit capacity at the end of Q3 was CAD 167.1 million, which is sufficient to meet short-term normal course working capital and maintenance capital requirements and fund our acquisition program and planned strategic initiatives. We continue to focus on working capital efficiency as a key component in managing our overall leverage targets. The Q3 working capital efficiency was 26.6%, an increase of 10 basis points from June 30, 2024, due to the lower trailing 12-month revenue.

Including the debentures, which are classified within current liabilities, working capital efficiency was 28.7%, an increase of 80 basis points from June 30th, 2024. Finally, the Board has approved our Q4 2024 dividend of CAD 0.35 per share, payable on January 7, 2025, to shareholders of record on December 16, 2024. Please turn to Slide 14. At this point, I will turn the call back to Iggy.

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

Thanks, Stu. Our outlook is summarized on Slide 14. During the Q3 of 2024, Wajax delivered revenue of CAD 481 million, down CAD 28.7 million, or 5.6%, from the Q3 of 2023. The year-over-year decrease in revenue is primarily due to the delivery of a large mining shovel in the Q3 of 2023, with no such delivery in 2024, and lower product support and industrial parts revenue due to softer-than-anticipated market conditions. Gross profit margin decreased to 19.2% in the Q3 of 2024 versus 22.2% in the Q3 of 2023, driven by a higher proportion of equipment sales relative to product support, industrial parts, and ERS sales. In addition, increased market pressures resulted in lower margins realized on product support and industrial parts sales, partially offset by higher margins on ERS sales.

We continue to see strong customer demand in the mining and energy sectors and reduced activity in industrial and forestry. Given softer-than-expected market conditions and year-to-date results, Management has implemented a number of cost-savings initiatives and is actively pursuing further cost-reduction measures. Management is continuing to focus on the execution of our six strategic priorities for 2024, which were set out on Slide 6. Management also continues to evaluate options to repay or refinance the corporation's CAD 57 million in senior unsecured debentures that are maturing on January 15th, 2025. On November 4th, 2024, Wajax announced the planned retirement of CFO Stuart Auld to be effective March 4th, 2025. Tania Casadinho, VP and Corporate Controller, has been appointed to succeed Mr. Auld as CFO effective March 4, 2025.

Stuart will remain as CFO for the next four months, and during that time, Stuart, Tania, and myself will work closely to ensure a smooth transition. On behalf of the Board and Management team, I want to express my appreciation to Stuart for his exceptional contributions over the past decade. Among many things, Stuart played a key leadership role in unifying Wajax's operational structure, significantly growing our business, and has most recently led the successful implementation of our new ERP system. He has also provided crucial advice and guidance to me since I joined Wajax in 2021, for which I'm very grateful. I'll now turn it over to Stu.

Stuart Auld
CFO and IT Officer, Wajax

Thank you, Iggy and I just wanted to say thanks to the entire Wajax team, but more specifically, my direct reports and my team. It's been a privilege to be part of Wajax for the past 10 years, seeing the company evolve and work alongside such talented people. I'm very proud of what we have accomplished together. I'm also very pleased that Tania will be stepping into the CFO role. I'm incredibly confident that she will do an outstanding job and continue supporting the company's success in every way. I'll now turn it over to Tania.

Tania Casadinho
VP Corporate Controller, Wajax

Thank you, Stu and thank you, Iggy for the confidence that you and the Board have placed in me. I am both humbled and excited to step into this role and committed to building on the strong financial foundation that Stu has created. I am also extremely excited to continue to focus on the execution of our long-term strategic priorities and vision for Wajax. I look forward to engaging with the investment community and sharing the Wajax story as we continue to drive our goals forward. With that, I will turn it back to the operator and open the line for questions. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your touch-tone phone. You will then hear a three-tone prompt acknowledging your request. And if you would like to withdraw, please press star followed by two. And if using a speakerphone, you will need to lift the handset first before pressing any keys. Please go ahead and press star one now if you have any questions. And your first question will be from Jonathan Goldman at Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Jonathan Goldman
Equity Research Analyst, Scotiabank

Hi, good afternoon. Stu, I want to congratulate you on your career and your retirement, and Tania, congratulations on your new appointment. My first question, I wanted to dig into the decline in product support and industrial products margins. Iggy, I was wondering if you could elaborate on the increased competitive pressures you experienced. How did those evolve in the quarter? And how should we think about the margin trajectory for those two product lines for the balance of 2024 and into 2025?

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

Sure. Yeah, thanks for the question, Jonathan. I think we've just started to see the economy slow, and a lot of the external metrics that we look at have slowed. It's certainly gotten more pronounced as we've gotten further into the year. And essentially, we're just seeing our customers slow down and defer their spending on CapEx and even on maintenance. So just generally, slower with some of our customers a nd as we look to the rest of the year, Q4 looks to be a solid quarter for mining. We've got two 8,000 shovels shipping in the quarter. But generally, we're still seeing a little bit of uncertainty as we go into the rest of the year, especially there's a U.S. election that's happening today.

Regardless of the result, I think once that is settled and works its way through the system, I think we'll start seeing just a little bit more calmness in the market and a return to customers making buying decisions in the new year.

Jonathan Goldman
Equity Research Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay, that makes sense. I guess relatedly then, the product support and the industrial products revenues were softer, I think a little softer than you anticipated, but the new equipment sales were actually relatively strong, especially considering you were lapping a tough comp with the mining shovel delivery last year. So how do I square those two trends?

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

Yeah, I think our teams have been doing a really great job on the sales front. We've got some great manufacturing partners. Some of our larger ones would be Hitachi, Hyster, Tigercat. All of them have great programs to help us get equipment out to our customers. The supply chains have also really, for the most part, gotten back to normal. We've got a lot of gear on the shelf right now. Our inventory is still higher than we'd like it to be. Because of that, we've got a lot of equipment that's available for sale.

Jonathan Goldman
Equity Research Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay, that's good color. Thanks, Iggy. I'll get back in queue.

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Devin Dodge at BMO. Please go ahead.

Devin Dodge
Industrials Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Thanks. Good afternoon. Just before getting into questions, I wanted to wish Stu good luck on his pending retirement and congrats to Tania on the new role.

Tania Casadinho
VP Corporate Controller, Wajax

Thank you.

Devin Dodge
Industrials Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Maybe just to start with, just wondering if you could speak to the increase in competitive market pressures for industrial parts and product support. I'm just trying to get a sense if this was concentrated in certain regions or end markets and if these intensified through the quarter or if it was relatively consistent through the summer months.

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

That's a good question. I mean, we're just seeing a bit more competitive pressure in a bunch of places. We have a number of U.S. publicly traded industrial product peers who also operate a very significant business in Canada. They're all calling everything down for both this year and next year and also calling out competitive market pressure. So we're all kind of feeling it, and I think just mostly due to customers pulling back on the spending. So I don't think it's not really allocated to specific markets or specific areas. We do generally still see that energy and mining is pretty strong, and the pressures there are not quite as large in other areas, but there's competitive pressure across the board, I would say.

Devin Dodge
Industrials Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. And when we look at industrial parts and product support, I guess, how do those gross margins compare now versus, we'll say, pre-pandemic, let's say, in more normal times? I just want to understand if this is, we'll say, a return to normal or if this is more a transient kind of compression of that gross margin.

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

I think they're similar to what we saw pre-COVID.

Devin Dodge
Industrials Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. Okay, and then let's see. Can you help us to better understand the working capital investment in the quarter? It seems like it was almost entirely from accounts payable. Just trying to understand what was driving that and if you expect this to reverse in the coming quarters.

Stuart Auld
CFO and IT Officer, Wajax

Yeah, Devin, more just timing of AP payments, nothing out of the ordinary.

Devin Dodge
Industrials Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. And then just maybe one last one here. Just one of the notes to the financial statements, there was mention of Wajax's use of a supplier financing programs. I think there was a new one in Q3 as well. It looks like the use of these programs has increased pretty meaningfully this year. Just can you provide some context? What's behind that? I'm not sure if this is related to Hitachi or something else.

Stuart Auld
CFO and IT Officer, Wajax

A portion of it's related to Hitachi. We basically have the financing now is going through Zaxis versus when it was going through Hitachi before, so that's new to us.

Devin Dodge
Industrials Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay, got it. I'll turn it over. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, please press star one if you have any questions. Next, we will hear from Michael Tupholme at TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Michael Tupholme
Director of Equity Research, TD Cowen

Thank you. I'll just start by echoing the comments from others. All the best to you, Stu, and congratulations, Tania. I just wanted to go back to, I guess, the subject that's been focused on so far in terms of industrial parts and product support. Iggy, you sounded like initially you sort of suggested that once we get through the uncertainty associated with the U.S. election, you could see some improvement in those areas, but it also sounded like afterward you suggested your competitors in those areas, particularly industrial parts, are talking about weakness persisting into next year, so do you have a different view of the market than them, or how do we reconcile those two comments?

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

When we look at our U.S. competitors, they're calling out their I mean, they're American, so they call out the entire U.S. market, which we're only in Canada. In Canada, we do see 2025 as not being a terrible year.

Michael Tupholme
Director of Equity Research, TD Cowen

Okay. And so does that, when you say not a terrible year, does that imply a pickup in terms of the run rate revenues you're doing in industrial parts? You think there's an improvement and a pickup in 2025? Is that what you mean by not a terrible year?

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

I think it's hard to say at this point. We need this American election to work its way through, and I think that'll give us a little bit of a better view on what's happening going forward. I think interest rates coming down is positive. Bank of Canada has continued to say that they think that will keep coming down, which I think will allow our customers to keep spending a little bit more. But I think we'll really have a better understanding over the next couple of months.

Michael Tupholme
Director of Equity Research, TD Cowen

Okay. Fair enough. Can you talk a little bit about the gross margins, 19.2% down 300 basis points? It sounded like you see a lot of that decline as being driven by mix, but then you also did call out the impact of the competitive and market pressures. So I guess I'm just trying to understand to what extent that was mix-driven versus the latter, if there's a way to sort of break that up and help us understand the two components.

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

I would say it's balanced between those areas where there's an element of mix in there. There is definitely an element of competitive pressure in IP and product support. And we're also working hard to move equipment out of our yards. We've got a decent amount of it. And so we're being a little bit more aggressive on price.

Michael Tupholme
Director of Equity Research, TD Cowen

Okay. And maybe on that front, can you or Stu help us think about the degree or the extent to which we should see inventories come down in the Q4 relative to where you were at the end of the third, where you think you'll land at the end of the year?

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

I think our peak inventory was at the end of Q1. So that was approximately CAD 750 million. We brought that down by CAD 28 million over the next quarter. And throughout Q3, we're flat, but we also got a large shovel in there that's already pre-sold. So it's kind of a timing issue, and that one retails for about CAD 20 million. So I think we've been bringing it down at a reasonable rate. We plan to continue bringing it down. It's a little bit too high. And as we work through some of these sales in the Q4, we think we'll definitely see it come down.

Michael Tupholme
Director of Equity Research, TD Cowen

Okay and then on the cost savings front, some have already been implemented. Sounds like you're working on others. Can you provide a little bit more detail? Is this primarily bringing down personnel costs? And I guess when you've accomplished what you'd like to do on that front, if we look out to next year, do you see yourself landing back in your 14.5%-15.5% SG&A as a percentage of revenue target range?

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

Yeah. So as mentioned in our commentary, we implemented some meaningful cost savings in the Q3. Plan to do a bunch more in the Q4. Our largest cost is people. So that's the biggest chunk of it. And then our next biggest cost is facilities, and there's a little bit there too. But yeah, when we're done everything, we expect to be comfortably within that range again.

Stuart Auld
CFO and IT Officer, Wajax

Arguably, there's some savings in terms of bringing your inventory down.

Michael Tupholme
Director of Equity Research, TD Cowen

Okay. Okay. All right. We'll get back in the queue. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you and at this time, we have no other questions registered. Please proceed.

Iggy Domagalski
CEO, Wajax

Thank you very much for joining our call. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. And at this time, we ask that you please disconnect your line.

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