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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

May 7, 2020

Speaker 1

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Wheaton Precious Metals 20 21st Quarter Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Thank you. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded on Thursday, May 7, 2020, at 11 am Eastern Time. Will now turn the conference over to Mr. Patrick Drewen, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for participating in today's call. I'm joined on the line today by Randy Smallwood, Wheaton Precious Metals' President and Chief Executive Officer Gary Brown, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Haitham Holei, Senior Vice President, Corporate Development. I'd like to bring to your attention that some of the commentary in today's call may contain forward looking statements. There can be no assurances that forward looking statements will prove to be accurate as actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements.

In addition to our financial results cautionary note regarding forward looking statements, please refer to the section entitled Description of the Business Risk Factors in Wheaton's Annual Information Form and the risks identified under risks and uncertainties in management's discussion and analysis both available on CR and in Wheaton's Form 40F and Wheaton's Form 6 ks both on file with the U. S. Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents together with the Q1 2020 MD and A and the press release from last night set out the material or or mining operations from which Wheaton purchases precious metals as a result of an epidemic including the COVID-nineteen pandemic, risks related to mining operations from which Wheaton purchases precious metals, the continued ability of Wheaton's counterparties to satisfy their obligations under precious metal purchase agreements and the impact of material changes in fact, law or jurisprudence on the CRA settlement. It should be noted that all figures referred to on today's call are in U.

S. Dollars unless otherwise noted. In addition, reference to Wheaton or Wheaton Precious Metals on this call includes Wheaton Precious Metals Corp. And or its wholly owned subsidiaries as applicable. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Randy Smallwood, our President and Chief Executive Officer.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Patrick, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Wheaton's Q1 results of 2020. Before I begin, I would like to start off by saying that I hope everyone has been keeping healthy and safe during these challenging times. It's hard to believe how much the world has changed since our last quarterly conference call. At Wheaton, our top priority remains the health and safety of our employees and the communities in which we operate.

In response to the COVID-nineteen virus pandemic, we have made several changes to our business to ensure a seamless transition to working remotely as well as launching initiatives to help support our communities and the communities around the mines from which we receive our precious metals. I will provide further details and updates on Wheaton's response to COVID-nineteen, including the effects on our partner operations and guidance after Gary discusses our Q1 results. On that note, I am pleased to report that Wheaton had a very strong start to 2020 with over $177,000,000 generated in operating cash flow in the Q1, an increase of 50% relative to 2019, driven by the strength in precious metals prices. And we declared a quarterly dividend of $0.10 per common share, in line with the minimum quarterly dividend set by the Board of Directors for the duration of 2020. So now I'd like to turn the call over to Gary Brown, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, who will provide more details on our results.

Gary?

Speaker 4

Thank you, Randy, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. The company's precious metal interests produced 100 2,200 gold equivalent ounces in the Q1 of 2020, comprised of 94,700 ounces of gold, 6,700,000 ounces of silver and 5,300 ounces of palladium. Relative to the Q1 of the prior year, this equivalent production with gold production being virtually unchanged, while silver and palladium production increased by 19% 12% respectively. Although gold production in Q1 2020 was consistent with the prior year, Salobo production increased by 3% despite the throughput being negatively affected by the rainy season and unscheduled maintenance. San Dimas produced 10% more gold with mill operating at over 2,200 tons per day during the quarter and Minto contributed over 2,000 ounces of gold production having been in care and maintenance during the comparable quarter of the prior year.

These positive variances were offset by lower gold production from Sudbury and Constancia due to the mining of lower grade material and indicates of Constancia lower throughput. The increase in silver production was primarily the result of a significant increase in grades and recovery at Penasquito resulting in record attributable production. The increase in palladium production is reflective of the blitz project ramping up and the fill the mill campaign at the East Boulder operation. Gold equivalent sales amounted to 166,100 ounces in the quarter, representing a 4% decrease from Q1 2019, primarily due to the sale of a significantly large amount of gold produced in prior quarters occurring in the Q1 of 2019 relative to Salobo. This was partially offset by a 15% increase in silver sales volumes driven by the increased silver production in Q1, 2020.

As of March 31, 2020, approximately 88,400 payable gold ounces, 5,300,000 payable silver ounces and 4,900 payable palladium ounces had been produced but not yet delivered to the company. We estimate a normal level for payable ounces produced but not delivered to equate to approximately 2 to 3 months for gold, 2 months for silver and 3 months for palladium with the balances at the end of Q1 being consistent with these levels. Revenue for the Q1 of 2020 amounted to $255,000,000 representing a 13% increase relative to Q1 2019, primarily due to an 18% increase in the realized selling price on a gold equivalent basis. With this price increase being partially offset by a 4% decrease in gold equivalent sales volumes. Of this revenue, 63% was attributable to gold, 33% was attributable to silver and 4% was attributable to palladium.

Driven by this increase in sales prices, gross margin for the Q1 of 2020 increased 41% to $123,000,000 highlighting the leverage our business model provides to increases in precious metal prices. Cash based G and A expenses amounted to $12,000,000 in Q1 of 2020, representing a decrease of $4,000,000 from Q1 2019, with the decrease being primarily related to lower accrued costs associated with performance share units or PSUs. Interest costs for the Q1 of 2020 amounted to $6,000,000 resulting in an effective interest rate and outstanding debt of 3.03% as compared to $13,000,000 of interest costs and an effective interest rate of 4.28% incurred in Q1 2019. Net earnings amounted to $95,000,000 in the Q1 of 2020 compared to $57,000,000 in Q1 2019. Basic earnings per share increased 62 percent to $0.21 compared to $0.13 per share in the prior year.

Operating cash flow for the Q1 of 2020 amounted to $178,000,000 or $0.40 per share compared to $118,000,000 or $0.27 per share in the prior year, representing a 48% increase on a per share basis. Based on the company's dividend policy, the company's Board has declared a dividend of $0.10 a share payable to shareholders of record on May 22, 2020. And under the dividend reinvestment plan, the Board has elected to offer shareholders the option of having their dividends reinvested in newly issued common shares in the company at a 1% discount to market. For 2020, the company currently estimates its non stock based G and A expenses, which exclude expenses relating to the value of stock options and PSUs, will amount to approximately $40,000,000 to $43,000,000 This represents a $2,000,000 to $3,000,000 increase from our previous guidance, reflecting the recently announced $5,000,000 community support and response fund designed to address the immediate needs of the communities in which Wheaton operates as well as the communities around the mines in which the company has a precious metal interest. During the Q1 of 2020, the company repaid $159,000,000 of the revolving facility and received proceeds from the exercise of stock options in the amount of $7,000,000 Overall, net cash increased by $23,000,000 in Q1 2020, resulting in cash and cash equivalents at March 31 of $127,000,000 This combined with the $716,000,000 outstanding under the $2,000,000,000 revolving credit facility resulted in a net debt position as of March 31 of $589,000,000 As announced, the company established a $300,000,000 at the market or ATM program on April 16, 2020, under which capital can be raised through the modest issuance of common shares, ensuring that the company has efficient access to this form of capital should it require such to execute on its accretive growth strategy.

That concludes the financial summary. With that, I turn the call back over to Randy.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Gary. The company is keeping up to date on developments surrounding COVID-nineteen and has taken steps to protect the health and safety of our employees and the community as well as measures to minimize any impacts to our business. In accordance with local government restrictions and guidelines, Wheaton closed its physical offices in mid March and successfully transitioned to telecommuting for all of its employees. We have always maintained digital or detailed business continuity plans and as such the transition to telecommuting has been seamless resulting in uninterrupted flow of business. And that includes continuing to pursue additional accretive acquisitions.

Our corporate development team is very active and has been advancing a number of opportunities, some of which we were fortunate enough to have completed site due diligence trips prior to this pandemic. We may be locked down, but we aren't locked out of growing our high quality portfolio of assets. With regard to our current portfolio, in late March, we completed a thorough review of operations with our counterparties to better understand their policies and procedures around COVID-nineteen and have continued to closely monitor operations ever since. As of May 5, 2020, 6 partner operations located in Mexico and Peru were temporarily suspended subject to government restrictions focused on reducing the spread of COVID-nineteen. These include the Constancia, Yaliyahu, San Dimas, Los Filos, Penasquito and Antamina mines.

The restrictions on non essential activities in Mexico and Peru are currently scheduled to be lifted by the end of May. And given the low cost, high margin nature of our portfolio, our assets generally provide the maximum economic benefits to not only our partners, but to all stakeholders, including governments and communities. Especially during these challenging times, the benefits of these mines are needed the most, which is why we are confident there will be a focus on getting these mines back up and running. Given the temporary suspensions and the uncertainty surrounding timing, on April 1, Wheaton withdrew its production guidance for 2020. We are regularly assessing the impact of the COVID-nineteen pandemic on our partners' mining operations, and we will provide an update on our guidance when we have more confidence on the restart schedule for these mines that are under temporary suspensions.

And although both Wheaton and our partners have been impacted as a result of this pandemic, it is clear that many of our neighbors in the community face even greater challenges and will continue to do so over the coming months. In response, we launched a $5,000,000 Community Support and Response Fund, the CSR Fund for short, to support global efforts to combat the COVID-nineteen virus pandemic and its impacts on our neighbors. Majority of the CSR fund around $4,000,000 will be targeted to the communities that are directly influenced by the mines in which we have precious metal streaming agreements. And the remainder will be allocated to local charities here in Vancouver and in Grand Cayman. We are working closely with our partners to identify the needs of these community of the community and to assess where these funds could help fill an immediate gap.

We have already identified initiatives with our partners around the Salobo, San Dimas, Constancia, Sudbury, Stillwater, 7 77, Voisey's Bay, Algystral and Stratoni mines that will target providing resources such as mobile lab facilities, ventilators and personal protective equipment to those local communities as well as providing support to local food banks and charities. It is during challenging times like this when charity is most important. It is just the right thing to do. In summary, the Q1 of 2020 was a strong start to the year. We have no doubt that COVID-nineteen will have an impact on our Q2 and thus 2020 as a whole, but the strength of our business model coupled with the quality of our existing portfolio gives us confidence that we will rebound from this.

Not only that, but we remain optimistic that we will be able to continue growing the company and add additional production from long life assets producing in the lowest half of their respective cost curves. While we are well positioned to grow our portfolio, should there be any accretive opportunities, our top priority is the health and safety of our employees and the communities in which we and our partners operate. So with that, I would like to open up the call to questions. Operator?

Speaker 1

Thank you. And your first question here comes from the line of Cosmos Chiu with CIBC. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Randy, Gary and Patrick for the conference call here. Maybe my first question is on the acquisition pipeline and due diligence. On the Franco Nevada conference call earlier today, they talked about unique or novel sort of alternatives to doing due diligence. I'm just wondering if you're also looking at potential alternatives to doing due diligence. And I guess the second part of my question is, Randy, as you mentioned, as some of the potential targets, you had the opportunity to actually do due diligence before COVID-nineteen.

Have you done at those assets enough due diligence for you to be comfortable to pull the trigger at this point in time? And then I have a follow-up question as well.

Speaker 3

Sure. Carlos, I'll start off and then let Haitham step in. But I'm going to start off by saying that I will say that going through this pandemic and the response that we've had, there are things that we are learning here that we will probably take out of this and help us improve our overall operations. And one of them is the ability to digitally connect amongst businesses and amongst people not having to be face to face and being able to sort of audit data and the likes. We really had to sort of step up on that front out of necessity, but there are skills and benefits that we are gaining out of this whole process that will help in overall performance in the future.

And so I don't know, Haysom, you want to add a bit more to that?

Speaker 6

Yes, yes, you bet. Cosmos, good morning. Hi, Hay. Cosmos, the primary hurdle to consummating new transactions in the near term is typically an inability to complete on-site due diligence due to travel restrictions. We did spend a significant portion of our time, as Randy mentioned earlier, in the Q4 of last year and the Q1 of this year on the road visiting sites, which does provide us with an advantage over others who didn't get to those sites before the travel restrictions came into place.

I would hope that, that will allow us to consummate transactions for opportunities that meet our stringent hurdles. And I think obviously the most important of which is accretion. Now hopefully by the time we need to visit new sites for new opportunities that are coming forward here in the near future, This virus has been eradicated and everything else is back to normal. If not, we'll continue to find ways to get comfortable with new high quality transactions to further grow this company. And you know what, there's various options.

One of the options that people are considering are virtual tours, others are utilizing on-site consultants. Other options are continuing to utilize our early deposit structure, which provides us with an option to move forward once the feasibility study has been completed and the remaining funding is in place. So it allows us to put up just only a small amount upfront, especially for the development stage project. So we're looking at all avenues. But I can tell you, everything we're looking at right now, we've been to those sites, and we're very comfortable moving forward from a technical perspective.

Assuming sorry, let me go back. We're very comfortable moving forward, assuming it passes our overall technical review. The technical aspects of the site visit has been completed.

Speaker 5

Of course. But you can be

Speaker 3

sure, Cosmos, you can be sure, I love getting my hands dirty with these projects and I'll be getting onto the ground as fast as I can just to smell and get the sense of what's really there.

Speaker 5

Of course. And Randy, I guess my follow on question is, are you seeing more opportunities in gold? Or are you seeing more opportunities in silver?

Speaker 3

I would have to say and again I'll let Haitham chime in too, but I would have to say that what we're seeing opportunities developing here right now is byproducts from the base metal section. Base metal operations, base metal companies not doing as well as the precious metal companies out there. And so now it comes down to byproduct from both lead zinc mines or nickel mines. Copper nickel tends to be biased more towards the gold space. Lead zinc seems to be biased more towards the silver space.

Currently, I would say we're about fifty-fifty, but Haitham, I'll let you clarify that one.

Speaker 6

No, that's exactly right. What we're seeing is base metal companies looking for ways to strengthen their balance sheet, as Randy said. And the majority of the sorry, all the opportunities we're looking at are now precious metals, and they're about fifty-fifty split.

Speaker 5

For sure. Maybe switching gears a little bit here. Just I see that at Pentacancha for Constancia, of course, they couldn't reach some of the minimum requirements in 2019, hence you're getting additional 8,000 ounces in 2020. Could you walk me through that contract again? And then in terms of is there any other minimum coming up in 2021 in terms of additional ounces

Speaker 4

you can

Speaker 3

receive? Well, and as it was reported, we did defer. We gave them an extra 6 months to satisfy that completion test. So instead of being at the end of the year and again this is a matter of just supporting our partner. Hudbay is we've got multiple agreements with them and providing them support in terms

Speaker 7

of that.

Speaker 3

And so we did extend the completion test for the Pampacancha zone until June 30, 20 21. It was originally scheduled for December 31. And so, yes, the way that works is that we get 2,000 ounces per quarter if they haven't satisfied it. I mean, I can't remember the specific tonnage, but it's a certain amount of tonnage that has to be mined from the Pampacancha zone by that time. I want to say it's 4,000,000 tons of ore or something like that, but I'm not sure the exact number.

And that's how that's specified. That's the only criteria on it. Papa Concha is very important for us and very important for them. We get 50% of the gold from that. The other 50% of course stays with Hudbay and it is a very gold rich zone on that deposit.

And so there's a real strong incentive. We know that Peter and his team over at Hudbay are very, very on getting that thing moving forward. To be honest, there was no physical work planned over this period on Pampacancha. They still have to get through the final government approval process. Now that they've got the community on board, they have to make sure that the government's in agreement.

And so it is sort of still a paperwork session. It's not physical work that's being missed. And so I'm pretty comfortable. I mean, it's a very fluid situation obviously, but I'm pretty comfortable with their capability of satisfying that completion test before the end of June.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks, Randy. Those are all the questions I have. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Cosmos. Thanks for the call.

Speaker 1

Your next question here comes from the line of Ralph Profiti with 8 Capital. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Randy, I'd like to get your perspective on labor force take up at the operator level of your partnerships. Has there been any regions or mines where you think there's a particular risk that the returning labor force would be less than optimal, whether that be because the mines is deemed essential or we're seeing gradual restart of some of those operations?

Speaker 3

Yes. I would say that that is going to be a challenge at pretty well every operation. Our rough vision in terms of how these mines that are under temporary suspension would be that it will be a 3 to 4 month gradual take up as sites are successful in terms of restarting. And obviously, everyone will be watching closely in terms of the overall performance. And if there's any type of a negative response from restarting these things, if all of a sudden we have a virus outbreak or something like that, that's going to really set things back.

And so it's a sensitive and very fluid time in that situation. And in fact, we feel that there's probably going to be and we've seen this at some of our other operations that aren't under temporary suspension, there is higher absenteeism rates as people that aren't comfortable with that environment stay away. And so this is going to be a challenge that the industry faces. I think time is going to be the issue that provides that comfort, that provides that belief in the safe environment. And so what we hope to do is make sure that what the industry has to do as a whole is make sure we have the proper policies and procedures in place to maintain strong physical distancing, to minimize exposures through a number of different So you get rid of common lunch areas, like there's all sorts of strategies that can be put in place to minimize risk.

And as long as the industry keeps focusing on that, hopefully, it's not as bad as even we've as what we expect in terms of that. But it's going to be the track record that actually shows that it can be done. That will provide comfort to some of the employees that have that may be either of a higher risk group or just may be more uncomfortable about this. Our expectations are it's probably going to be about a 10% to 20% impact on assets that aren't suspended, but is going to provide that answer. It's one of the reasons that we haven't even though we've got sort of announced dates with respect to restarts, we're not going to give updated guidance in 2020 until we have confidence about that restart projection, about how these assets look like going forward.

So I don't expect to be giving updated guidance for at least a couple of months as we watch and monitor how these restarts move forward.

Speaker 8

And Randy, on the CSR fund that you just launched, you did mention some of the operations where that ending is concentrated. And it sounded to me like most of the spending around the communities is for testing and health related matters. But also some of these areas you talked about are pretty remote. I'm wondering if you're seeing in these communities stresses on even basic human needs, food, water, shelter, that type of stuff.

Speaker 3

Yes. Well, and I did list off a bunch of this stuff in terms of health focus, but we've also food banks are very, very important part of our contributions. And in fact, I think in the quantum, it's probably about a little bit less than half of the money that's gone out has gone towards food banks and frontline charities that are providing direct support. And so we've been really sort of focused on that side. This is not this fund that we the CSR fund that we put that we came up with, it's not there to of support research.

It's there to support the front lines to try and help our partners be more successful in managing the risks at these sites and minimizing the impacts. And really, I think that's what it comes down to is just the stronger we have this undying belief in Wheaton that the stronger our partners are, the stronger we are. So everything we can do to help our partners be successful in managing risks and moving forward will deliver returns to us. And it's just it's the right thing to do. It's an area that we're proud to provide that focus.

I think it's what makes Wheaton unique in the streaming space is the fact that we do put a lot of effort in terms of trying to provide additional support to our partners.

Speaker 2

And Ralph, just to follow-up on what Randy said, I mean, some of the programs we're sponsoring, one of them is providing food to 4,000 families in the Amazon. Another one that we're looking at right now in addition to the medical side and the food side is even the socioeconomic where we're looking potentially to help fund mask manufacturing in a remote community just to give them some additional income coming in besides the mine. So we're looking at a pretty broad based response for the fund.

Speaker 7

Well done. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ralph.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from the line of George Toppin with Industrial Alliance. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks. Hello, everyone. The Vioyses Bay, country and care and maintenance, any thoughts on what Vale needs to see, obviously higher prices probably, but also anything else that they're looking for before they restart the operation after 3 months.

Speaker 2

Yes, George, on Boise's Bay, there's a couple of things they want to restart. They shut down. They didn't have to. Canada hasn't mandated them nor the province that they shut down. This was more in response to protecting the local indigenous communities nearby.

What they're going to want to make sure they see is that any kind of viral outbreak is controlled and not threatening the indigenous community. As Randy said, part of that will come with time and also bolstering and making sure that those local indigenous communities do have adequate access to health care. Right now, they said it was a 4 month shutdown. They announced that about a month, month and a half ago. So we're looking at another 2 to 3 months.

And we wouldn't anticipate at this point any reason why they wouldn't restart according to that timeline.

Speaker 3

George, one of the things you have to recognize is that remote northern communities, if you go back 100 years, they suffered seriously through the Spanish flu influenza that happened about 100 years ago. And there's still pretty strong memories of that in a lot of these remote northern communities. And so the matter of just being sensitive towards those concerns. And I think Vale has given us lots of examples as to why we think they're one of our strongest partners and this is a good example of them respecting the needs of the local community.

Speaker 7

Right. Yes, I'm closely understood. It's unlikely that comes into play, but I was just interested and you probably wouldn't even use it, but the late penalties if for whatever reason they cannot deliver January 1, 2021 like Pampacancha?

Speaker 3

Oh, at Pampacancha, this is now Constancia down in Hudbay.

Speaker 7

I was meaning for Vale on the cobalt if for whatever reason they don't deliver. Right. So, yes, right.

Speaker 3

Okay. You know what, if there's a suspension of operations from COVID, there is no late penalties for that. We get our percentage of our cobalt from the Boise Bay operation irrespective of and if it's not operating for something like this, there is no penalties. I will in a perverse way sort of highlight the fact that the suspended operations of course, the cobalt that would normally be being produced now is being pushed back and will actually now fall into our contract terms. So we will wind up with ultimately more metal out of this as a result of this suspension immediately.

I have a hard time believing that when I look at what's happening in the rest of Canada with respect to the mining industry, I'm pretty comfortable that Vale will find a way to restart operations before the end of this year at Boise's Bay. And I know that they'll find a way to do it with minimized risk as much as possible. We've seen Vale being very successful down at Salobo in terms of managing that risk. We've seen them at Sudbury taking good initiatives there. So I'm confident that they'll find a way to provide that comfort to those communities and have that operation up and running as January 1 gets closer.

Speaker 4

And George, I guess I would just add to that. It's Gary here. The part of the protection we get from the Boise Bay contract is that we receive cobalt regardless of whether it comes from the underground or the open pit. And so the open pit operation there is expected to be up and running by January 1. And so that would be ounces that we hadn't or cobalt rounds that we hadn't anticipated receiving in the first place when we value that opportunity.

Speaker 7

Got it. Great. Okay. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 3

Thank you, George. Stay healthy.

Speaker 1

Your next question comes from the line of Jackie Przybylowski with CMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Thanks very much. I just wanted to circle back to your comments on growth. With the equity markets being as volatile as they are, does this change your view at all on looking at other maybe smaller royalty streaming companies or packages or royalties from private companies? And how would the due diligence for that kind of situation differ from an asset level due diligence?

Speaker 3

Yes, Jackie, I'll start off and then let Haitham chime in if you don't mind. So we in terms of consolidation within the industry, we constantly are monitoring that to keep an eye on it. But I will say this is a strong business model. And when we can make acquisitions that about one times NAV, it's tough to sort of compete with going out and actually sourcing the new opportunities. And I do believe that we're going to see a wealth of opportunities over the next couple of months as people get their way through this pandemic and especially on the base metal side with the weakness in base metal pricing.

We're comfortable we're going to see a lot of opportunities in that space. Obviously, if it did come to a consolidation opportunity, most of those assets that we've seen that other competitors or peers would have acquired are assets that we would have looked at during the original due diligence process anyways. The most in fact, pretty well every opportunity out there has been a competitive process. And so we've had a crack at some of these opportunities. And I will say that if there were good quality opportunities and a lot of them don't meet our criteria from a quality perspective, But then after that, we have to be cognizant of some of the weaknesses, the structural weaknesses that particularly the private capital, the private equity money has been pushing into their contracts, which dramatically lower the value of their opportunities.

And we've seen some pretty dramatic failures on several fronts over the last 6 to 8 months where they tried to have different forms of a liquidity event in terms of trying to crystallize that and the market was intelligent enough to realize that there were structural weaknesses that the we always have to measure it that way. And I think there's been some good signals from the market back to those private equity groups about the impact of some of their decisions and how that does impact value on an overall basis. So we're constantly open to that and we have had success on that front in the past. And so we'll continue to monitor, but I would predict that it's unlikely over the next while mainly because we see better value in terms of new opportunities out in the mining space. Haitham, you got anything you want to add to that?

Speaker 6

Yes, thanks. Good morning, Jackie. Just I guess the only thing I'll add with regards to consolidation in the streaming space specifically is that we're always monitoring for these things. We've got our own internal models that we go through and do the analysis on. I can tell you, it's only recently that our share price has actually started to recover.

So we're not there yet. Everything we do has to be accretive. We're not looking at growth for the sake of growth. So that's the one thing to keep in mind. Secondly, with your second question with regards to due diligence on royalty packages, yes, Randy hit the nail right on the head.

We've been to a lot of these sites already. And the one thing you have to recognize, when these royalty packages come up, you typically don't get the ability to actually go to these sites anyway because it's somebody holding a royalty from another corporate, from another company. So you do a lot of the desktop due diligence and you make sure that you're comfortable from that perspective. There's a reason we haven't done a lot of these royalty packages. We refuse to pay higher than what they're worth, whereas others are willing to use their paper to do so.

We're going to focus on high quality streaming transactions. That's where we see the biggest the best growth in this environment, and that's where we make the best return for our shareholders.

Speaker 9

That sounds great. Thanks a lot. That's all the questions I have.

Speaker 3

Well, thank you, Jackie, and stay healthy. Thank you, everyone, for dialing in today. In closing, we believe Wheaton is well positioned to continue delivering value to our shareholders for a number of different reasons. Firstly, by having low and predictable costs that result in some of the highest margins in the entire precious metal space and strong operating cash flow. Secondly, through a growing dividend that we increased by over 10% from 2019 thirdly, through our steady organic growth profile over the next several years and proven track record of accretive quality acquisitions fourthly, by offering our shareholders exposure to some of the best mines in the world and stay safe.

Thank you.

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