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Earnings Call: Q4 2024

Feb 27, 2025

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the WSP Global Inc. Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2024 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, please press star one and one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Please note that today's conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your first speaker, Quentin Weber from Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Quentin Weber
Head of Investor Relations, WSP Global Inc.

Good morning, good afternoon. Thank you for joining our call. Today, we will discuss our Q4 and fiscal 2024 performance, followed by a Q&A session. Alexandre L’Heureux, our President and CEO, and Alain Michaud, our CFO, are joining us this morning. Please note that this call is also accessible via webcast on the website. During the call, we will make forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ from those expressed or implied. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any of these statements. Relevant factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward-looking statements are listed in the MD&A for the year ended December 31st, 2024, which can be found on SEDAR+ and on the website. In addition, during the call, we may refer to specific non-IFRS measures. These measures are also defined in the MD&A for the year ended December 31st, 2024.

Our MD&A includes reconciliations of non-IFRS measures to the most directly comparable IFRS measures. Management believes that these non-IFRS measures provide useful information to investors regarding the corporation's financial condition and results of operations, as they provide additional critical metrics of its performance. These non-IFRS measures are not recognized under IFRS, do not have any standardized meaning prescribed under IFRS, and may differ from similarly named measures reported by other issuers, and accordingly, may not be comparable. These measures should not be considered as a substitute for the related financial information prepared by IFRS. With that, I will now turn the call over to Alexandre.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Thank you, Quentin, and good day, everyone. I am pleased to share our strong fourth quarter and full-year performance, which exceeded the high end of our revised financial outlook that we provided in Q3, 2024. We carried out positive momentum in Q4, delivering robust net revenue growth with continued elevated organic growth, enhanced profitability, and strong operational cash flows. We continue to enjoy a robust backlog and pipelines of opportunities, demonstrating the strength of our global platform. Taking a closer look at the three key highlights of our solid Q4 and full-year results. First, our net revenues continue to grow significantly over our 2023 performance, with a 23% increase for the quarter and a 12% increase for the full year. We maintain a high level of organic growth, with 7.5% for the year, led by ongoing strong demand for our services, notably in the US and Canada.

Second, we significantly exceeded our expectations in Q4 and successfully met our yearly strategic target, delivering a 40 basis point increase in adjusted EBITDA margin despite restructuring activities in Asia, which is not small in nature, and a total of 120 basis points during the last three years. And third, we ended the year in a strong cash position, with free cash flow more than doubling compared to last year. Our commitment to solid cash flow generation remains a top priority for us going forward. 2024 also marked a successful conclusion of our 2022 - 2024 strategic cycle, a period of remarkable achievements that have shaped WSP. As a leading compounder and value creator, we surpassed the ambitious financial targets we set three years ago, growing our net revenue by more than 55%, our EBITDA by 65%, and our net earnings per share by more than 60% versus 2021.

During the three-year cycle, we enhanced our client experience, strengthened our platform, and completed 16 strategic acquisitions, notably POWER Engineers, which we closed in October 2024. On that front, the integration is progressing well and is on plan. From day one, our key focus has been to bring our teams together, prioritizing our clients and projects. Based on our current pipeline, we now have over 120 opportunities in development together. We have now successfully secured many projects, utilizing our combined expertise across multiple business lines. Additionally, we have multiple existing projects leveraging our combined capabilities to expand our current service offering for clients. Recent examples of key wins include two new multi-year framework agreements to provide engineering, design, and environmental planning and permitting for transmission, distribution, and substation-related assets for two major utilities in the Northeast. In short, we continue to see a significant level of revenue synergies opportunities.

Today, our global talent pool has grown to approximately 73,000 talented professionals as we deepen our capabilities and footprint in key end markets and geographies. Our 2022 - 2024 accomplishments further solidify our position. More than ever, we run a truly global and highly diversified business, primed to keep driving sustainable growth and leading financial performance. Before getting into our exciting developments from the start of 2025, I invite Alain to review our financial results in greater detail.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Thanks, Alex, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to report on our strong 2024 results. For the fourth quarter, revenue and net revenue reached CAD 4.7 billion and CAD 3.4 billion, up 25% and 23% respectively compared to the fourth quarter of 2023. We posted robust net revenue organic growth at 10% in the quarter, driven by continued strong demand for our services. For the full year, revenue and net revenue increased by 12% compared to 2023, growing to CAD 16.2 billion and CAD 12.2 billion respectively, exceeding the high end of our updated outlook range for the year of CAD 11.8 billion-CAD 12.1 billion of net revenues. The increase year over year was due to solid organic growth of 7.5% and acquisition growth of 3.7%.

For both the year and the fourth quarter, growth was led by continued strong momentum in Canada and the US, including higher demand for emergency response services following hurricanes in the US. This represents the third consecutive quarter of double-digit organic growth in the USA. Also, we're very proud to report that the newly acquired POWER Engineers posted 16% organic growth in net revenue in Q4. Our backlog continues to be robust, with a healthy level of project awards and pipeline of opportunities. As of December 31st, we reach a new record level with $15.6 billion of backlog, representing 10.9 months of revenues and outlining the sustainable demand for our services. Moving on to profitability, Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter grew to $634 million compared to $525 million in the fourth quarter of 2023, an increase of 21%.

Adjusted EBITDA margin stood at 18.7% compared to 19% in the fourth quarter of 2023, due to the fluid environment and restructuring activities in Asia and a higher mix of lower margin emergency response services in the US. For the full year, EBITDA grew to CAD 2.185 billion, up 14% compared to CAD 1.9 billion in 2023, and exceeding the high end of our updated outlook range for the year, which stood at CAD 2.155 billion-CAD 2.175 billion. Adjusted EBITDA margin to 18% compared to 17.6% in 2023 was mainly attributable to increased productivity and to the progress on our margin expansion journey. Adjusted net earnings for the quarter reached CAD 305 million, or $2.34 per share, up 23% and 17% respectively compared to the fourth quarter of 2023. The increase is mainly attributable to higher adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by higher interest on long-term debt.

For the full year, adjusted net earnings of CAD 1.01 billion, or $8.05 per share, increased by CAD 155 million, or $1.50 per share compared to 2023. The respective increase of 18% and 17% in these metrics were mainly attributable to higher adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by higher interest on long-term debt. As for our cash position, cash inflow from operating activities increased to CAD 1.4 billion compared to CAD 986 million in 2023, and we also more than doubled our free cash flow for the year, reaching CAD 885 million.

Free cash flow represented 1.3 times the net earnings attributable to shareholders. The improvement in free cash flow is mainly due to higher adjusted EBITDA and improved working capital position. At the end of December, DSO stood at 72 days, ending at the lower end of the outlook range of 72 - 79 days and compared to 76 days as of December 31st, 2023.

Considering the level of transformation we orchestrated by making a new ERP available to close to 40,000 employees in 2024, we are very pleased with this outcome. Our balance sheet remained strong, with a net debt position of 1.8 times within management's target range, and incorporating the full 12 months of Adjusted EBITDA of all acquired businesses in 2024, the net debt to Adjusted EBITDA ratio would stand at 1.7 times. Combined with our available capital, it provides us with the flexibility to capture future opportunities. Lastly, the financial outlook for 2025, issued in our Global Strategic Action Plan press release on February 12th, 2025, is reiterated. On that, back to you, Alex.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Thank you, Alain. With that in mind, we are very pleased to close our 2022 - 2024 chapter. Before we take questions, I want to highlight some of the exciting developments from the last few weeks, including the launches of our new brand identity and our 2025 - 2027 Global Strategic Action Plan, and of course, our Investor Day event held in Toronto and online, where we had the pleasure of engaging with investors and analysts. Starting with our new brand identity, which reflects everything we are at our very core and what we want to become known for, it is centered on our people, the most precious resource we have, and it is dynamic and innovative. It will serve as a powerful tool to differentiate us in the marketplace and build a strong, recognizable presence that resonates with our people, our clients, and our partners.

Our 2025 - 2027 plan is our roadmap for an ambitious three-year cycle focused on pioneer change for empowered growth. It is designed to propel WSP forward as we seek to become a catalyst of change in modernizing our industry. The world around us is changing rapidly. Key megatrends such as energy transition, urbanization, and the digital revolution are reshaping our planet and increasing the demand for our expertise. In this environment, we see tremendous opportunity for growth. While we have grown significantly, our estimated market share is still very small. Our deep understanding of the natural and built environment gives us strategic advantage to grow and to be challengers in the professional services arena. Today, we are looking beyond undisputed leadership in our industry. We are broadening our reach and evolving our long-term vision to become a leading brand within the professional services universe.

This three-year plan is designed to unleash the full potential of WSP as we aim to push even more boundaries, drive greater innovation, and meaningfully invest in digital. We reaffirm this intention with a groundbreaking new seven-year partnership with Microsoft to accelerate the digitalization of the architecture, engineering, and construction industry. By combining our deep engineering and scientific expertise with Microsoft's best-in-class digital and AI technologies, we can drive value-focused innovation and achieve exceptional results for our clients, our communities, and our business worldwide. With our 2027 targets, we remain committed to delivering leading financial performance. We set ambitious goals to boost our net revenue by 40%, grow our adjusted EBITDA by 50%, and increase our adjusted net earnings by 60%, and raise our free cash flow by 70%. This plan is not just about numbers. It's about setting a new standard for excellence and innovation in our industry.

We believe that by focusing on these key metrics, we will be able to drive sustainable growth and create long-term value for our shareholders. With a renewed long-term vision, a bold new brand, and the unwavering trust and support of our clients and investors, I am highly confident in our ability to create an enduring legacy of greater impact. I would now like to open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Once again, please press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. We are now going to proceed with our first question. The first question has come from the line of Steven Fisher from UBS. Please ask your question.

Steven Fisher
Analyst, UBS

Thanks. Good morning and congratulations on a strong year. I guess just within the mid to high single-digit organic growth expectations that you have for Canada and the Americas for 2025, how different do you think the growth rates are going to be between transportation, environment, property, and power?

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Yeah, I would think, generally speaking, it should be strong across the board. So there's no significant variances between those end markets.

Steven Fisher
Analyst, UBS

Okay. And then, I guess, obviously, a very dynamic environment at the moment from a political perspective. I guess, what impact are you seeing, in particular, from Trump policies on your various infrastructure markets as it's developing this year?

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

It's changing by the week. So we obviously monitor that very closely. But high level, I feel that there is bilateral support on both sides of the aisle by the Democrats and Republicans around infrastructure. So if there is one positive aspect of what's happening right now, I feel that there's some commitment to infrastructure, and that, I believe, will continue and will continue to be strong in 2025. So all in all, as a company, we feel extremely strong and feeling extremely good around the markets in which we operate at the moment, both in the U.S. and in Canada.

Steven Fisher
Analyst, UBS

Thank you very much.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Thank you.

Steven Fisher
Analyst, UBS

Thanks, Stephen.

Operator

Once again, as a reminder to ask a question, please press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. We are now going to proceed with our next question. The next question has come from the line of Yuri Lynk from Canaccord Genuity. Please ask your question.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Hey, good morning, guys. Nice to talk to you again.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Thank you.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Yeah. Did I hear correctly on your prepared remarks covering off POWER Engineers, 16% revenue growth for that entity? Can you just confirm, is that what I heard, and is that year-on-year and net revenues?

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Yeah, you heard well, Yuri. That's Q4 2024 compared to Q4 2023, as reported by POWER. So on top of that, there could be also opportunities that we highlighted also in Alex's remark on revenue synergies on both sides of the equation on legacy WSP and legacy POWER.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

I think Yuri said differently. Obviously, POWER Engineers growth is accounted as acquisition growth at this point. But for your information, we wanted to provide you with the organic growth that POWER Engineers recorded in the quarter Q4, which is the first quarter with us.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Yeah. No, no, it's helpful. I did notice the revenue contribution from acquisitions there was higher than expected. And I'm assuming that that's organic growth. And I'm just wondering if that's in line with what your expectations were and how do we think about how the revenue synergies might start to layer in on top of that, because surely there were no revenue synergies in that number so close after closing, right?

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Yeah, no new revenue synergies in that number. Obviously, early on in the process, so difficult to quantify what those revenue synergies will look like, but a very strong head start. First part of your question. Second part, when we complete these acquisitions, you will recall when we presented the opportunity and presented the company that this company had generated double-digit CAGR growth over the last 10 years, so not surprised by the strong performance, but very pleased with the start of our combining journey together.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Yeah. Okay. Just a quick last one, housekeeping. If I recall, Q1 of last year had a couple of fewer billable days. Just wondering how the billable days issue shakes out for 2025.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

No significant differences versus 2024, so you could assume stable situation in every quarter.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

In other words, like to like from one quarter.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Yeah, like to like.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

From one quarter to the other.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Correct.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay. Okay. Thanks, guys. I'll turn it over.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Thank you, Yuri.

Yuri Lynk
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Thanks, Yuri.

Operator

As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Once again, it's star one and one. Thank you. We are now going to proceed with our next question. The next question has come from the line of Ian Gillies from Stifel. Please ask your question.

Ian Gillies
Managing Director, Equity Research, Stifel

Morning, everyone.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Good morning.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Morning again.

Ian Gillies
Managing Director, Equity Research, Stifel

I just wanted to touch on APAC. I mean, most of the business is performing quite well. One of the surprises, I suppose, for me in the quarter was the margins in APAC. Can you maybe talk a little bit about some of the steps being taken to returning those to what I would call more normalized levels in 2025 and 2026?

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Yeah. Look, at the moment, I'm feeling fairly good around the APAC situation. At the moment, we took the liberty to really set the business up for future success in Asia, so we continue to optimize our business, continue to make some changes. We have put our leader in the Middle East, also expanded his role to head also the Asian operation, Dean McGrail, very pleased with that, and again, it is always part of a global business to continue to streamline your operation, to make the necessary changes, to set it up for future success, so we're starting the next three years, I believe, not on the back foot, but on the front foot as it relates to APAC.

Then when you move down south and you look at Australia and New Zealand, last year, New Zealand had a change of government and really the infrastructure spending in the country really took a pause. And really, the new government wanted to reassess priorities within the country. So we saw the market cooling down a bit. Do I think it's going to be like this for a very long time? No, I don't think so. And in Australia, we finished off many, many large projects in Australia, and we had to demobilize some of our workforce. But we are, at the moment, replenishing the backlog. We are committed to Australia, committed to New Zealand. These are great countries where the margins are extremely high, probably some of the highest in our group. So we're not changing our view on this.

But to me, this is just us going through changes and dynamics in the regions. But we're still very much committed to the region and very much optimistic about the future prospects of that region.

Ian Gillies
Managing Director, Equity Research, Stifel

Understood. That's very helpful. The other one I was hoping you might be able to expand upon a little bit is backlog is a point-in-time measurement. It's not always perfect, but it was a little shorter in duration this quarter. That would, I presume, have been well known when you put out guidance a couple of weeks ago. But could you maybe talk about what's transpiring there and what you kind of see happening in the first half of the year for the business?

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Yeah, Yuri, you're reading this very well. We're feeling good about our guidance, very strong. And we're going into this, as I said, on the front foot in 2025. And remember that we have a large Earth and Environment practice. And if you look at Q4 last year, we experienced a similar dynamic. We've consumed the backlog in Earth and Environment is typically shorter in duration. So we've consumed our backlog, and we're going to rebuild it, start in spring again at the end of Q1. So it's nothing unusual, and we're feeling very good about it.

Ian Gillies
Managing Director, Equity Research, Stifel

Understood. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back over.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Thank you.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Thanks, Ian.

Operator

We are now going to proceed with our next question. The question has come from the line of Maxim Sytchev from National Bank Financial. Please ask your question.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director, Research, National Bank Financial

Hi, good morning, gentlemen.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Hello, Maxim.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Good morning, Max.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director, Research, National Bank Financial

Actually, I just wanted to piggyback on the backlog question. I mean, the fact that you're doing more advisory work, does that have sort of any impact on kind of the book and burn dynamic of sort of from a definitional perspective? Just wondering if you can provide any color there. Thanks.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

I wouldn't want too much to draw any conclusion on 90 days of performance. I think you need to have a long-term view on the business, as I said in the past. I don't believe advisory versus engineering is going to have a significant impact over time. Yes, advisory tends to have a shorter backlog in duration, which is fine, actually. We have no problem with that. It's just the nature of the work. But we could be awarded a five-year contract next quarter, and all of a sudden, you're going to see a massive growth from one quarter to the other. So I think it's just a work in progress. We're running in the ordinary course of business. The backlog is strong. Our proposal activity in the U.S. is extremely strong.

At the moment, I'm feeling very, very well around and very good around our backlog and our performance as a result of it.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director, Research, National Bank Financial

Yeah. Okay. No, that's great color. And then I was wondering if it's possible to get any comment around the M&A landscape and given sort of the policy fluidity we are experiencing at the moment, how should we think about this in terms of is it a net positive, negative when it comes to sort of sellers' expectations? Any color there? Thanks.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

It's a push and pull, Max. On one end, with this new administration, I think the investment community was hopeful for more deregulation and therefore fostering more of an environment for merger and acquisition. That's on one end. The flip side of this is that when you are creating an unstable environment, people tend to take a pause. So I feel you have two competing forces right now taking place in the marketplace. And that's why I believe, in my personal opinion, that the first half will probably be a bit more quiet. And I'm not talking about WSP. I'm talking about the world here. The world of M&A and transaction activities will probably be more quiet than people had hoped back in the fall of 2024. Do I think, though, that this will resume? Absolutely.

I do believe that if we can gain more stability in the marketplace, I think that the market is poised for a lot of activities in the coming years, and we intend WSP to actively participate in that.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director, Research, National Bank Financial

For sure, and do you mind if I sneak in one more in terms of the POWER Engineers? I mean, obviously, tremendous growth there. I was wondering if you can please expand in terms of the sustainability of this growth because, again, it looks pretty tremendous. Thank you.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Look, as I said before, not surprising by the performance of POWER Engineers. We're extremely pleased. 10 years of CAGR double-digit organic growth. So yet again, I think Q4 was a very strong quarter for them. I've known this company for as long as I've been with WSP for more than 15 years now. I've followed their story. This is a premier brand in the power and energy sector in the U.S. So for the sake of repeating myself, I'm extremely pleased that we were able to combine forces with POWER Engineers. And we're really looking forward to working with them to really propel the combined organization in that sector to new heights. I think it's a very, very exciting time. Remember that we closed the transaction in October of 2024. So it's really, if you take out Christmas and the holidays, it's been a very short time.

But I'm very pleased with the head start that we've had so far with Power.

Alain Michaud
CFO, WSP Global Inc.

Yeah. Backlog is strong at Power, no doubt. And Max, looking at some of the report that was issued last night, there were a few comments on margin in Q4. So maybe I want to take the opportunity to discuss that a bit further for everybody's benefit. For sure, our quarter margin was down, and we explained why. We took action in Asia and FEMA work in the US as a lower margin. But if you step back a little bit, quarter is a quarter. I think the trend is important to look at. And if we look at the last three years, we started the cycle in 2022 with 30 basis points of margin improvement. In 2023, we delivered 50 basis points. And when you look at 2024 and you go a layer down, we deliver 40 basis points.

But looking by segment, Canada delivered 90 basis points of margin, Americas 60 basis points of margin, EMEIA 70 basis points of margin. And APAC, to Alex's point before, on Australia and New Zealand, if you carve out Asia, APAC delivered 145 basis points of margin improvement. So we run this business responsibly. We take action where we need to. And that's what we did in Q4. But if you step back and you look at the last three years' performance, one could argue that our margin's actually going up from 2022 to 2023 to 2024. So we're very, very proud of the work of our leadership team in every region. And I think that's a point that you should consider in looking at our results.

Maxim Sytchev
Managing Director, Research, National Bank Financial

Yeah. Excellent. Thank you so much.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Thanks, Max.

Operator

Thank you. As a final reminder to ask a question, please press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

So I assume there are no more questions at this point?

Operator

We have no further questions at this time. So I'll hand back to you. Thank you.

Alexandre L’Heureux
CEO, WSP Global Inc.

Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you for attending this call today. If you haven't had the opportunity to listen in to our Investor Day that took place a few weeks ago in Toronto, I invite you to go on our website and listen in to the recorded version of our Investor Day. And again, we thank you for your support and look forward to updating you in the quarters to come. Wish you a great 2025. Thank you very much.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.

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