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AGM 2024

Jun 21, 2024

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Good morning, everyone. I am Masayoshi Son, Chairman and CEO of SoftBank Group Corporation. My throat is not in good condition, but I am in good shape. I have an allergy, and my voice may not sound as good as you may expect. The day before yesterday, and the day before that, I slept only for 3 hours, but last night I slept for 4 hours, so I am in good shape today. When my brain is working, I believe they are so excited, and maybe I go to sleep 1:30 A.M., and 3 hours later, at 4:30 A.M., the brain gets awakened. I started taking notes because I came up with a lot of great ideas, and my CEO staff, members.

I took a photo of my note and sent a photo to my team, CEO staff, and in 5 minutes, anyone from the CEO office is required to take action. So 24 hours a day, I can take action right after something came up to my mind. My team updates to do a list, and there is a traffic signal, yellow, red, and green, and whatever yellow and red, somebody needs to take action to follow up. So that's how my team is working. Looking back the last year, I have been struggling with solving very complex formulas, but the day before yesterday and one day before that, and I slept 3 hours, even though I felt a little bit dizzy and sleepy, but in many times, in those times, something came up.

In the morning, this morning, I came up with a solution, and I got so excited and started calling to America and other countries. I am super happy, so happy today. Anyway, this Annual General Meeting of Shareholders is a very, very important event, so let's get started. Again, thank you very much for coming to join us today despite your busy schedule. Pursuant to the provision of Article 13 of the Articles of Incorporation, I will call the 44th Annual General Meeting of Shareholders of SoftBank Group Corp. to order. 44th. It's been 44 years since SoftBank Group was established. I am getting older and older, but I am in the best shape, actually. We adopt a system where our shareholders can exercise their voting rights or post questions through the internet.

The agenda today is just as set out on the Convocation Notice of the general shareholders meeting, which is posted on our website. I'd like to inform you that the number of voting rights already constitutes the quorum. Now, the moderator will inform how the meeting will proceed. Please explain how the meeting will proceed. We will start by laying out the reporting matters, outlining matters for approval. Then we will discuss the business strategy and move on to the question and answer on all the reporting matters and matters for approval. Then we will take a vote on the matters for approval. Regarding your exercise of voting rights, visiting shareholders will be asked to confirm by clapping. Online shareholders can exercise their voting rights through the internet. The website is open to accept your votes.

Please note that you cannot modify your votes once you have exercised your voting rights. Regarding the Q&A session, we'd like to address questions which were submitted in advance to the meeting after we explain the detail of the matters for approval and business strategy. Then we will address questions and comments from visiting shareholders. To address as many questions as possible, we'd like to limit the number of questions to one per one shareholder. Please also note that it will end addressing questions from visiting shareholders when we start addressing questions from online shareholders posted today to our website. Then we will address questions from online shareholders, which is posted today. This website is already open for posting questions and comments from shareholders. May I remind you that accepting your post will end five minutes after the start of the Q&A session.

If online shareholders wish to ask questions or have any motions, please post your question or motion less than 200 letters. For online shareholders, we'd like to limit the number of questions to one person and one motion per motion of the same type. If there are any procedural motions from online shareholders, we take a vote on them all together after we address questions and comments from the visiting shareholders. If there are any motions to amend the proposal from either visiting shareholders or online shareholders, it will be deliberated together with the original proposal, and a vote will be taken on the original first. Thank you very much for your attention. Now, I'd like to take a vote on whether this approach is acceptable. Please clap your hands or click on the clapping button if you agree with this approach. Thank you very much.

Thank you for your voting. Please wait one moment. We are confirming the result. Thank you very much. With the majority of shareholders agreed, we shall follow this approach. Now, details of the reporting matters are projected on the screen. I'd like to present you a summary video on our business overview for just 10 minutes.

[Foreign language]. Thank you very much for your attention. Now, I would like to present the matters for approval. Details are set out in the convocation notice posted on the website. Proposal one is appropriation of surplus. Now, I would like to present our business strategy. This is something I wanted to do, actually. Resolution is kind of a formality basis. Everybody's here and joining. I believe that you're interested in share price of SoftBank. Is it high or is it low? And how it's going to be? That's one agenda that you are interested in. Another thing is not only the share price, not only the short-term period thing, but also mid to long-term period. What kind of vision SoftBank Group has and what kind of strategy are we going to follow?

That's something that you are interested in, I believe, for you, that you are joining here in person or joining over internet. First, let me touch on the business performance, and after then, I would like to discuss our vision. In the video you just saw, there was some explanation regarding our business performance: JPY 6 trillion revenues, 2%-3% increase, JPY 200 billion, JPY 500 billion loss. But this business is doing well; that business is not doing good. So you may not understand fully in words. I believe our office created a video with lots of efforts, but I even don't understand fully. So that's why I would like to explain to you here. So increasing or enhancing shareholder value, what does that mean? So that I would like to come back to the original.

So my understanding of enhancement of shareholder value is that we would like to evolve our business model, and then with our marketing power, we distribute. So things that people don't have, but we would like to create, and then we market. So that's the evolution and multiplication. So 44 years that we've been doing this business, and looking back, I believe that everything can be summarized in this one page. Without evolution, your competitors are going to start selling at a cheap price so that they're going to take over your place. Japanese economy right now, not growing in the past 30 years or so, is probably because we don't see much of the evolution of the industry in Japan. Those reasonable prices, the country that's providing reasonable prices is taking over the market, or evolution is actually originating from the United States.

So the U.S. with evolution and also the reasonable price, what the cheaper labor-cost countries are taking over, that is why the Japanese economy is very much flat. And shareholder value, if you put it in figures, you can see equity value of holdings, less net debt. That's the shareholders' value from my understanding. You are investors, so I believe that you understand this. For you, you may have a portfolio of 10 companies, for example, NTT, Toyota, SoftBank Group, SoftBank Corp., Panasonic. So many companies you may hold as your portfolio company of about 10. And you may say, "These companies' revenue, sales, you don't sum up of those each respective company's revenues or sales. Do you do that?" That's the kind of accounting calculation. So assuming that you have 10 portfolio companies, how much did you spend to buy this share, and how much share price it becomes?

So is it becoming JPY 1 million investment becomes JPY 2 million? And if you have some debt, then you need to less debt or any borrowings, and then that's going to be your pure value or pure asset of yours. Even it comes to the company with more than JPY 1 trillion management, you may have more than 10 business lines. So each business line, if these are the public company, then how much is the shareholder value of this company? And if you monetize those, or you may acquire a company, or you may enhance a company. So you have a portfolio strategy that you have to place. So if you are running a big company, big enterprise, you always have to have an eye as an investor's point of view. So Mr. Son, is he an investor or is he a business person?

That's a question that I recently asked, and I believe I am both. I'm both. If you are the leader of the big enterprise, you have to have both sides of the view. Otherwise, I don't think that he's good for this leader. So are you an investor or are you a business person? I would say that question doesn't make sense. If you're leading a large enterprise, you have to have a view, not only the accounting point of view, but also have to have a view on shareholders' value by each respective business line, and you refresh the figures, and then you can see your value. So that's the kind of big picture thinking. So for SoftBank Group, what I'm receiving as a daily report, daily updates, is the overall shareholder value, some of the shareholders' value, and also our net debt or our borrowings.

Many people say that I am the king of loans. I'm good at borrowing money. I like making a loan, but that is a big, very important source for the growth. So that's how I see the debt. So the important thing is if you lessen net debt from the equity value of holdings and pure value of shareholders, that has to be maximized. That's the main part. So in the past 44 years, and looking back, maybe you can allow me to show you the history of the evolution and the multiplication. So the first stage was the distribution of PC software, and also we launched Yahoo! BB, and then mobile business, starting with Broadband Yahoo! BB, and with that, we started internet and mobile internet and acquired Vodafone Japan, and also had an iPhone launch here.

So starting from PC era to mobile internet, we made an evolution there. We made a kind of a new era, new phase by launching new business or by acquiring company and started expanding the value. On top of that, not only in Japan, in Japan, you cannot exceed or compete against NTT that easily. So we went to the U.S. We acquired Sprint. We tried to merge with T-Mobile, and it became the world number one. Many people said that you made a big loss with Sprint or it was a big failure and so on and so on. But as a result, you see that we became the number one in the world, not the number three player in Japan, but now that we are the number one telecommunication company's shareholder in the world. So that's the evolution and the multiplication.

And next, with this assumption of expanding of internet in China, so we invested in Alibaba as a leading shareholder. Actual business model is actually I provided, I guided them to Jack Ma. And of course, Jack made a big success based on that, and it was a great partnership that we had with him. That is another evolution. So those internet that was very much popular in Japan and the United States brought it to China and made the evolution in internet of China and created multiplication. And on top of that, we had SoftBank Vision Fund. So because of our focus on AI, for the launch of AI and seeding of AI, we, of course, made a big loss of WeWork, for example. There are some lessons learned.

Last year at the AGM here with you, almost before IPO, so only the acquisition cost was the kind of value we had. Last year at our AGM, shareholder value of SoftBank Group, many of them are public companies, so they are pricing every day. And from that value, less debt. So net asset value here, net NAV, we call it. So from the equity value of holding, less net debt. So SoftBank, because you may have a lot of loans and debts, so we take that out from the equity value of holdings, and the value of SoftBank shareholder value was JPY 14 trillion. A year later, today is JPY 34 trillion. Over a year, JPY 14 trillion became JPY 34 trillion. So there are long, long videos that have positive figures, negative figures, JPY 6 trillion revenues, and so on and so on.

But in one side, this is it. All the pay and now balance sheet, auditors, forget about everything, but just take one glance at these slides and you know the answer. This one page is the one that I always check in the morning every day. This is automatically calculated using a generative AI processed, and that sent it to me at 8:00 A.M. as a daily report, and everything is analyzed. So only take one glance at this slide. Every day, I know how much suffering, I know how much good, how good we are. That's everything we know. So you have several portfolio companies that you really check how much money did you make before you go sleep or how much loss did you make. That's something that you always use your brain to think about that.

And then if you have to calculate each respective company's portfolio companies' P/E and NAV balance sheet, that's something too much to do. You may see that this is doing very good, this is not very good, so that we may need to have a deep down analysis on a bad company. But doing the daily check is something is the value of your own shareholding. And that's something that I do every day. I believe the leader or CEO of the large enterprise does this kind of check every day. Every day that you check, I think that they should do this check. And some people criticize about the listing of parent company and the subsidiaries. I don't think that that's something not appropriate because we have more than 1,000 companies under the umbrella of us.

If those are not public companies, if they remain as a private, you never understand the clear value. But if you are the public company, you understand the price. And actually, of course, when it comes to the hundreds of companies, if your portfolio company becomes, then you need to check every day what is our pricing or share price. And then that you'll be able to see your real shareholder value. So now we have increased by JPY 20 trillion over a year. And what was that? In one word? So in the two years before or so, I've been saying that I will be focusing on ARM. So Goto-san, you do the earnings on behalf of myself and everything that I will let you handle. I'm not going to be meeting any guests. I'm not going to be meeting any others. I don't do any detailed calculation.

Don't bring it to me. I only want to focus on ARM. So only ARM discussion I will do. So we have Rene here. But every day, even from this morning or the last night, almost, I would say, 5-10 chatting every day, communicating like using WhatsApp or phone calls, Zooms, almost every day that I am talking to him. I think he is the closest person that I am communicating these days in the company. And Rene became CEO of ARM. And I'm very happy to see the great improvements. And also, I've been having a very good chemistry with him. So I'm very happy to have him. And ARM JPY 3.3 trillion was acquisition cost. And back then, ARM was already a public company in the U.K. And the 40% premium was paid by us. So JPY 2 trillion was paid, JPY 3.3 trillion.

Many people criticized you spending too much on ARM. Why are you paying so much for this public figure? Even JPY 300 billion, I'm not going to buy it. That's what Nagamori-san said. He's a former director of our company at the AGM. I said, "Nagamori-san, please, please don't say that in the public." He said that even one tenth that I'm not going to buy. That's what he said at the AGM. That was just a kind of a joking around. As a result, we spent JPY 3.3 trillion, became JPY 24.6 trillion. Back then, we made a big loan, mainly by Mizuho and other bank group. Chairman Sato of Mizuho, if you're saying that ARM is not a great company, then why don't you go for 100% rather than in the less than 100?

Because internal directors were against the idea of buying this company. Some internal managements were saying that you're spending too much money on this company. How are you going to raise the money for that? And the money, we should be able to do somehow. That's the kind of a discussion we had. Then they asked Mr. Sato, the chairman of Mizuho, to give us a loan. But it was a quick decision, quick process that we were able to receive the great answer from Mizuho and the other bank group to purchase this company, acquire this company. And actually, the number of engineers became double all of a sudden. Business performance went down. Of course, sales doesn't go up all of a sudden. So only the expense increased. And many people were worried about the business.

But actually, we increased the number of engineers or the many sources that we start as a business line. That's blooming now. PC, server, cloud, auto, many business lines, all the high-end IoT or any AI-related business space has built with that. So I am really happy that we have invested in ARM. Because we have 1/3 of the loan, but that absolute figure does not change. So the equity became 1.5 times. This is leveraging. That's something that we are pretty good at. So shareholder value, that's something that we're trying to maximize. That's evolution and multiplication. So in the past 40 years, you see that those colors are added onto on and on for the bar graph. So you see that those are the evolution. If you look back now, it may not be that much things, but actually, those are all adventurous.

Every time that we had a big discussion, headaches. But if you see the results here, you had a wrap of those becoming our shareholder value. Of course, we made lots of mistakes, but that's in the process of evolution. Of course, we made lots of failures, but we survived. And as a result, we become this way. So that's how you see us. And our keywords today is the revolution of humanity. So in the past, so this is 20 seconds of the history of 200,000 years. So people are invented, humans are taking advantage of those inventions, and only humans are using tools. Other animals don't use tools. They cannot invent things. Only humanity can invent tools to create evolutions, remarkably, using your arms, legs, ears, eyes. Those are the base. Try to fly farther, try to run faster, try to see even farther.

So using and expanding your functions of your body, only humanity will be able to evolve with the extension of the tools. So evolution and multiplication, that's the keywords today. In the past one year, especially what I've been excited about is the mission of SoftBank is now clarified. Because so far, Masa, SoftBank, what have you done or what did you create? Two years ago, I'm getting old. Rest of my life is limited, but I haven't done anything yet. And I cried so hard. That's something I mentioned at the AGM last year. I haven't done anything. I haven't been able to do anything. Is this okay? Can I just get old like this and go die? Business person, entrepreneur, business Masa. I was really sad about myself.

But Steve Jobs, who was a good friend of mine before the last five years before he passed away, we had a meeting almost every month. And he was very clear with his mission, and he devoted himself to his mission. And that passion was actually not money. How you see the mission of yourself. So changing people's lifestyle with his one invention, that's something that he was trying to do when he thought of his missions. And I realized that, and I realized his passion. That's why that I was so cried hard over two weeks, and I haven't done anything. I was a bit worried that how can I do? But because of the mission of SoftBank, it's now clear to me. And that's something that I would like to discuss with you here at AGM. So SoftBank's mission, evolution of humanity. Evolution of humanity.

That's a big agenda. We will do that. I don't think we can have a bigger agenda than this, but I'm serious. You may say, "What are you talking?" But maybe we should be a little bit more in detail. You want to hear it? What would be the definition of evolution of humanity? I would say realizing ASI. This mission is something that became clear to me was last year, June 11th, about a year ago. On that day, I made a resolution. But I didn't speak in public because I was not sure, can we do that really? Why can't we do that? What is ASI? So those are the things that I was in my mind.

I was thinking about that, only focusing on this every day in the past one year, only focusing on this, even spending sleepless nights and making my right brain working so hard and think about that. In the past one year, my passion became my resolution. As I mentioned in the beginning this morning, I've been thinking about all that in the past one year. Most complicated part, most difficult solution is now came to me. That is why I'm so happy. I'm so excited. Even I didn't sleep last night, but still I'm so clear with my mind. I'm going to do it. We're going to do it. Please, when I say I will do it, I will do it. ASI. What is ASI? That's something that I would like to explain to you.

But before I go that, how many people know about ASI? Please raise your hand. We do have quite many. So shareholder of SoftBank Group and coming to the AGM. So I would say about 5% of here in person is raising hands. So 95% of here does not know what is ASI. That's not the popular words or general term. So what is ASI? That's something that I would like to discuss here. ASI. You may heard the word of AGI because I used it last year at AGM. AGI is Artificial General Intelligence. That's a kind of a bigger of AI. But AI is a kind of a functioning, some part of it. And if you the way of thinking or the intelligence, wisdom, if you exceed humanity, then that becomes AGI. AI becomes AGI.

So about 1-10 times intelligence, more intelligence than humanity, is AGI. So we were aiming at AGI, is a kind of AI experts target and objective, now common objective now. But targeting AGI, aiming AGI, what we should do with it because AGI is almost the same or equivalent as humanity. Maybe same or equivalent is smartest people in humanity, genius people, genius brain, about 1-10 times of humanity. 1 time is about the general person. 10 times is genius, I would say. So within the humanities skills or capability, that's AGI. So I said AGI is coming in 10 years. That's something that I said in the public speech. But in reality, that was a bit conservative. My real thinking is that that will come much earlier.

Within less than 10 years, I believe that all the AGI is going to be exceeding humanity, human brain. But that doesn't if that's going to be about the same as human or smarter human, then that we don't need to change our way of living. We don't need to change the structures of human lifestyles. Because 1 to 10 times, it doesn't make much changes anyway. But when it comes to ASI, it's a totally different story. ASI, you see a big movement. Those are the AGI moving around. So AGI creating here and there, and that's going to be connecting each other. And it's like a neuron, a brain, and connected. And that becomes 10,000 smarter than human. It's not the 10,000 people, but 10,000 times smarter than any genius. That's the kind of intelligence level that we're talking about ASI. Artificial superintelligence. That's ASI.

So if you aim at ASI, and I'm not sure that many people are really seriously thinking about aiming at ASI and when the ASI comes, how that will come, how much bigger of ASI, that definition is not available almost. ASI words, probably people start using, but they don't know. Maybe only myself is clearly saying that it's going to be 10,000 times. I just made it by myself that it's 10,000 times. 10,000 times ASI. So because nobody knows, nobody you cannot find it in Wikipedia or anything like that. But I would say 10,000 times smarter is ASI. Or you can call it 100 times. 100 times of genius already that we cannot really compete. 100 times, 10,000 times, you cannot really compete. It's about the same thing. But my image is that ASI will be 10,000 times smarter. That's how I understand.

SoftBank was founded for what purpose? And for what purpose was Masa Son born? It may sound strange, but I think I was born to realize ASI. I am super serious about it. Are you serious? You may ask, can you do it? Actually, that was a question I asked myself. But this morning, I solved the most complex problem. So that's why I am super confident today. Don't ask me why. Looking back, evolution of humanity, 200,000 years back, humans used to drive evolution. Humans created tools. Humans drove evolution. Pretty soon, AGI will come, maybe in five years, even in three years, sometime in three years to five years, AGI will come. Beyond that, AGI will drive evolution. In the past, geniuses have driven evolution of humanity. Different geniuses stimulated each other and delivered evolution. But going forward, AGI stimulates AGI and drives evolution.

Because AGI is much smarter than human. So smarter AGIs stimulate smarter AGIs, accelerate evolution. It's unstoppable. Then ASI will come. I think ASI will come sometime in 10 years. So 10,000 times smarter than human. Looking back 200,000 years of the human history, compared to that, just less than 10 years, ASI will come. So I think we are at the crosspoint. So people awake. Don't think about what you're going to eat tomorrow. Be awakened. So 10 years, in 10 years, ASI will exceed farther than human. Then every common sense will be completely transformed. So some people may say, even though ASI is very intelligent, ASI will not move anything. But that's not true. Robot is much smarter. Factory automation does not have intelligence. It's like a flip phone compared to a smartphone. Smartphone has intelligence, and smart robot has intelligence.

Smart robot will be integrated with ASI. Smart robots producing something at factory and cleaning roads and doing grocery shopping and washing clothes. So smart robots can do any physical stuff. SoftBank has been promoting Pepper, as you know, one of our robots. But sometimes Pepper doesn't look happy. But actually, the robot has been expanding in a company in Boston Dynamics. We sold some of the stakes. But other than Boston Dynamics, there are a lot of robot companies working together. And not only Boston Dynamics, but also other robotics companies are amongst a Vision Fund portfolio. So let me show you a video of Boston Dynamics, the latest machine. Look at that. The angle of legs and standing up backwards and move so swiftly. [Foreign language]. It's just the entrance of robot or humanoid. In next 10 years, it was just an example.

But the varieties of robot will be available in 10 years, and they will be connected to ASI. So mass production, mass processing, logistics will be done by robots more and more. And robot driving Wayve is also one of the Vision Fund portfolio companies. Let me show you a video. [Foreign language]. Here, unlike traditional autonomous driving, high-definition cameras and LiDARs, those sensors do not really drive autonomous driving car. It's a camera which is actually cheap. And autonomous driving 2.0 is what you're seeing. AI alone can make a decision. And it's not like a calculating already predicted map, like a Waymo-style autonomous driving. It's not like that. So only generative AI is used because generative AI learns. Once they learn, for example, if they had training in London, and when you go to a place for the first time, because the car learned already.

So even in a place where they have not been there before, because of the learning, the car can start running. So again, one of the examples of the latest evolution of generative AI. Of course, ARM plays a central role in our group on data center side or cloud side, and also on the edge side, like devices and cars and robots. So on both sides, everywhere, anywhere, Gen AI functionality will be implemented by ARM. And ARM-based chip shipment is shown here, the absolute number one in the world. As you can see, very beautiful exponential growth. And stock price may go up and down, but the shipment keeps going up. No down at all. And everywhere, anywhere, the ARM will be expanded into ASI world. Why is ARM so strong? Because of the computing power and design power.

In Cambridge, in the U.K., there is a team of genius design architects. Those architects have absolute talent and capability to deliver computing power and energy efficiency. This combination is great in AGI, both cloud side and edge side. Energy efficiency plays an important part, actually. Everywhere, ARM chip for AGI or evolution of ASI will be delivered by ARM. Not only ARM, NVIDIA, Jensen actually is one of my good friends. Microsoft became the number one in market cap very recently. NVIDIA became number one also recently. ARM has business transactions with NVIDIA. Actually, ARM is in NVIDIA's grace. Not only NVIDIA, but also Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, Google, ARM's licensed technology is adopted by those great companies. In the space of a smartphone, 99% of market share, but effectively, I believe 100%.

So almost all things in the world are supported by ARM licensed technology. And AI chip is essential in the ASI world. Not only ARM, but also NVIDIA, Intel need to work together to support AI data center. Well, in fact, in Japan, shops, factory sites will be used to build a new data center in Japan. So we should build AI data centers across the world and AI robots, like I mentioned earlier. So in all sectors, we will promote. But SoftBank alone cannot do. It costs a lot. So we work together with partners to finance, not only financing, but also in technology. We need to have partners whoever share a vision. We hope to achieve a goal together. Last but not least, ASI. That one slide is my message. SoftBank's mission, my commitment. Why SoftBank was born?

The group had done a lot of stuff, and we will keep doing a lot of stuff. But in the past, everything we have done was just for preparation and just a warm-up, I would say that. So that vast vision and vast dream and strong commitment compared to that gigantic vision with dividends enough, share buyback, that's a small stuff. Do you want to ask that kind of small question at AGM? That's a margin of error. Did you make money in the last 12 months? JPY 20 trillion of income. I don't care. That's a small stuff. It's just a matter of money. Shareholders, I said I came here for the two reasons whether SoftBank share price went up or not. Maybe you can forget about it. Don't worry about that SoftBank share price stuff.

So long as Masayoshi dreams a big dream, why don't you support Masayoshi Son who has a big dream? But the reason why, what should I do if a human is surpassed by ASI 10 times? What's the happiness? What's your work? What's the labor? Is it acceptable to have such a machine? What's the purpose of humanity? That's a fundamental question that you may ask. That's a fair question. You should ask that fair question. Greek philosophers ask those questions every day. Think. Think about fundamental question is, I think, important. Why? Why do you want to deliver 10 times a smart dream? Last year, my dad died, and I cried every day. I was so in despair. And that despair, if there was a 10 times smarter something than human, maybe that ASI could have solved the problem. AGI is not enough.

One or same as human is not enough. It's just a replacement. It does not solve a problem. I don't want anybody to die from cancer. In fact, my mom suffered from stroke before, and I was so sad. A traffic accident, cancer, stroke. If there is autonomous driving, that could reduce the number of traffic accidents so many times. That is meaningful. That is effective. If you want to reduce the traffic accidents to 100 or thousands of millions, maybe human brain is not enough to solve a problem. Such a huge problem may be solved by ASI that has 10,000 times smarter brain. Big earthquakes, big natural disasters, pandemic. Humanity has faced challenges and agony and pain in the last 200,000 years. What if there is a brain 10,000 times smarter than human? Maybe ASI can save you from disparity. What's happiness? What's work? What's labor?

Do you have to sweat and work? Is that something that you wanted? Of course, you have to work for family. You have to earn money for family. Maybe that was the reason why you worked. In the past, you have to walk far away to get water somewhere far because you needed the water. So whatever you need, ASI and robot can solve problems. And people say that people were born crying and people die in crying. If you cry when you were born and when you died, why don't you be happy in the meantime? So making people happy is the unwavering philosophy of SoftBank Group. People often say that SoftBank Group has changed fundamental core businesses so many times. We have not changed our core businesses. Information revolution, happiness for everyone. That is our core business always. But the ways to make it happen have been evolving.

SoftBank has not changed the core business. If you say SoftBank has made a core business, SoftBank has changed the core businesses, those people don't know what evolution is all about. SoftBank, I think, is mission. Biggest and only core business, which is to deliver information revolution, happiness for everyone. And absolute evolution of humanity going forward should be driven by ASI, and we want to contribute to that. Realizing ASI is our mission. Thank you very much for your attention today. That concludes my presentation. We would like to move on to the Q&A session. Why don't you share split? You can ask me anything like that. Well, the moderator will explain how we proceed the Q&A session.

Moderator

First, we will address those questions we received in advance to the meeting. Then we will address questions from the floor. Please raise either a red, blue, white, or green paper we provided at the reception so that the chairperson can see. Please wait for the microphone, and we will take a question or a comment from one person at a time. We would like to limit the number of questions to one per shareholder. Speakers are asked to first provide only the number on your entry card, but you do not need to give your name. Then we will address questions from online shareholders we received today on the agenda of the meeting. We would like to limit the number of questions to one per shareholder as well. Please note that we will finish taking questions from online shareholders in five minutes from now.

Okay. Now, first, we will address questions we received in advance to the meeting. First question. Please share with us a specific example of synergies between portfolio companies of SoftBank Vision Fund, which is the core of AI Cluster of Number One Strategy, and also let us know if there are any other synergies you can expect in the future. Well, already sold most of the shares. Uber, we were the largest shareholder then, and they grew drastically and then succeeded 2 weeks or 3 weeks ago. The top of the Uber and the executive people visited us, visited me, and we had dinner at the dinner table. And so they came over to meet me because I was the largest shareholder back then.

And 5 to 6 companies, we discussed how they could collaborate with those Japanese companies, and they were very much excited. And also AI robotic company, and it will be linked to ASI moving forward. So the Vision Fund, when it comes to evolve, and we are to seed for evolution, and we are playing a very important role in terms of seeding of evolution, and they're in the top of each industry. So there will be more and more synergies will be coming. Next question. I believe it is a great benefit for SPG to have Mr. Rene Haas, ARM CEO, on SPG's board. Please let us understand how Mr. Haas engages in the management of SPG.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Yes, NAV or net asset value that I talked about, more than half is contributed by ARM. So ARM has become the center of our business. So why don't we ask Rene directly about the question?

Rene Haas
CEO, ARM Holdings plc

Okay. Well, thank you for the question. So as Masa said, he and I talk many, many times a day, even a few times this morning. [Foreign language]. And this is because ARM is the center of everything that is around computing. And when you look at the SoftBank Vision around AGI and ASI, it's very natural that there's going to be an intersection between ARM's technology and all of the strategies that SoftBank is pursuing. [Foreign language]. Whether it's around robotics or autonomous driving, some of the videos that Masa showed, those technologies that you saw in the video, they all run on ARM. So it's very natural for myself and Masa to have many extensive discussions about the future of technology because the intersection is very natural. Thank you.

Moderator

[Foreign language]. Okay. Next question. I saw a news article saying a large shareholder of SPG is proposing a share buyback. I would rather like you to increase dividend than share buyback. What is your thought about that?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Like I said earlier, just a small matter. Well, if we do, we do. Like we did that before, JPY 500 billion level, JPY 1 trillion yen level. When, how, how much? You have to make a decision as a total. So let us make a decision. But we are ready to do anytime. We are ready not to do anytime. Next question. Do you have any plan to increase internal board director, especially female director? Why not appointing any female? Well, yes, we do have a big intention to appoint any female directors, and we are looking forward to having more and more female executive members, either from internal. And Erikawa-san is playing a role of three people, and actually, so she's already playing a big role.

Moderator

Next question. Now, the share price is high and difficult to purchase for a retail investor. Will you please consider share split?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Yes, again, small matter. When we do, we do. When we do not, we do not. Let us make a decision.

Moderator

[Foreign language]. Now we will address questions from visiting shareholders. Please raise your colored paper.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

The one with the red paper, please give a microphone.

Speaker 4

My number is 0429. Investing in ARM, you said that Nagamori-san criticized you a lot back then, and I'm aware of that. So I'm very happy that you invested in ARM. So what I respect you, Mr. Son, of is that about 5-6 years ago, JPY 500 billion or so back then to NVIDIA, and that scale, you invested in NVIDIA, and then. And after that, with NVIDIA and ARM were put together, and at the end, if that was fruitful or not is another question. Maybe at the end, it was a bit difficult to put these two companies together, however.

But you already had a keen eye, you were keen on that, and now NVIDIA has become the world's top market capitalization, and you already had sharp eyes on that. So I'm so impressed. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Compliment me more. So what I want to hear from you the most is SoftBank Vision Fund is going to be focusing on AI. That's what you said before. And for that direction, what is growing the most now is OpenAI ChatGPT, I believe. So Microsoft had initially invested in OpenAI and then growing right now. A year ago or so, I heard that you wanted to invest in OpenAI. I'm not sure if you have done or not, but as a SoftBank Vision Fund focusing on AI that had already taken initiatives like some years ago.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Can you make it to the point, your question?

Speaker 4

Well, you were not able to invest in OpenAI some years ago, or you were not paying attention to OpenAI back then. I thought you would have had a keen eye on OpenAI to invest. So that's what I wanted to ask.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

All right. So NVIDIA and OpenAI, two things. Well, I don't know if I should mention about this or not, but okay, let me tell you. When we purchased ARM right next month, NVIDIA's Jensen and I alone at my home in California, in my garden at the California home, we discussed for four hours over a meal, and I purchased ARM and want to purchase NVIDIA now. You don't have to pay any penny, so I will make it from 2.5% to 10%.

So you can stay as CEO, and we talked over 4 hours, and that was the only discussion point, and I wanted to merge NVIDIA to ARM. So because we had the same vision towards AI, but making it to private and then to merge, and then he was a bit hesitant to do so, and he was hesitant to become the subordinate of me. And so I told him that I would just stay as the largest shareholder, but anyways, we had a good conversation. If that had happened back then, then SoftBank would have become the largest market capitalization. The fish we missed was really big. And after that, I purchased 5% or one of the investees of Vision Fund. So internally, there was a voice to leave, and 5% holding 5% is not that strategic way. So that's why we sold it.

And then after that, there was a COVID pandemic, and we, SoftBank, had to also survive. Therefore, we sold whatever we could do except ARM, but not selling ARM, but to merge with NVIDIA. If we had done it then, we would have become 10% of shareholders. So it means that JPY 45 trillion, almost JPY 50 trillion, we would have held by then. So the NVIDIA was the largest market capitalization, exceeding Apple and Microsoft. And so when we look at the figure, yeah, maybe that was a better way to do. But if the God were to give me one more chance to purchase whether ARM or NVIDIA, I have no question, but I would buy ARM without no question, no hesitation. If I say this later, then everyone would say, "Well, you're lucky.

Now you're looking at NVIDIA, the world's number one company. But I have no doubt in my mind that I would purchase ARM right now. But even now, if I were asked to choose between ARM and NVIDIA, I would choose ARM. So I'm not telling you to purchase shares of ARM, but this is how much I'm confident in the future of ARM. So, well, NVIDIA, that was it. And OpenAI, when Microsoft invested like JPY 1 trillion or more a year ago, and even before that, Sam and I had a talk alone. And that time, so SoftBank was the one to put a JPY 1 trillion, and I was almost determined, and Sam was also in favor of that, and he had to discuss with his members. And he was considering, I was determined pretty much, but then Sam decided to receive JPY 1 trillion from Microsoft.

I think it was the right decision because Microsoft is the world's number one company and with the largest channels, with the largest capital. For Sam, that was the right decision. At least back then, whether I had an intention to do so or not, the answer was yes. There are a lot of fish that I missed, but there is no use looking back then. We would like to look ahead, realization of ASI, not by us alone, but with others with the same ambition. That's where I'm focused on right now. The next question.

Speaker 4

My number is 0307. Since October 2022, I have been applying patents, and some are public. Looking at them, mainly autonomous driving and factories. I wonder, how are you going to utilize those patents you applied as a SoftBank Group? Thank you.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Like I mentioned in my presentation, when ASI era comes in, all robots will work as hands and legs of ASI. So sooner or later, I am open to utilize the patents that applied. Since October 2022 to the end of last year, I myself applied 1,008 patents, maybe 3 per day. My right brain has been working so hard. So on the first day of a year, I decided I apply 1,000 this year, and I did that. But now my mission is clear, like I said. So realizing ASI is my mission. So again, the patents that I applied were something that I have done. So my only focus at the moment is ASI. I don't apply a lot of patents recently, but ASI is the only focus that I have in my mind and get deeper. With the red paper.

Speaker 4

I am very, very honored to be able to meet Mr. Son. I'm shedding tears. Thank you so much. So my question, so Mr. Masayoshi Son, who do you most respect?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Yes, I have several people I respect too. When I was 19 years old, and then Mr. Sasaki, the vice president back then of Sharp Corporation, and I sincerely respect him. And also Mr. Fujita of McDonald’s. I was 16 years old when I first met him, and Steve Jobs. I was so much impressed and with tears, and I really respect him. And Sam of OpenAI, I fully respect him. And Elon Musk, he is great. He is sometimes hard to follow, but also Demis of DeepMind, he is genius. So I cannot just give you one name. Of course, Bill Gates, I really respect him. So many of them. So I want to keep brushing myself. You look like my mother. Okay, next question. Somebody carrying a red board over there. And I will appoint you someone in C row next.

Speaker 4

My number is 41. Thank you for taking my question. In your presentation, or in the video, actually, there was a comment about building a data center in Hokkaido, Amazon, Oracle. Those big tech companies start building data centers. In the meantime, power consumption can be increasingly bigger and bigger. And then the concern is global warming and environmental issues. As AI evolves, power will be consumed more, and it leads to global warming. Then it does not lead to happiness for people. So my question is, what's your view on how are you going to secure power and electricity?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Yes, power and electricity is a fundamental question. It can be one of the biggest bottlenecks going forward, and it definitely has a huge impact on global warming. So I share with your concern. There are a lot of technical evolutions like nuclear fusion and renewable energy and natural energy sources. Currently available technologies, if you look at them, if you want to save as much as possible, ARM should play a great role. NVIDIA actually designed to save power consumption. Likewise, Microsoft, Google, and Amazon, and Intel. So they are replacing Intel and AMD to ARM so that they can save electricity consumption by half. ARM should play a key role in terms of power saving, at least trying to reduce the pace of increase of power consumption. ARM should contribute. As far as energy is concerned, I hope to give contribution in some way.

The block C and with the red paper, 530.

Speaker 4

Mr. Son, so what is your vision for ASI? Do you think the reason why SoftBank became so successful? And that's because you had a vision and passion and ambition that's why your company has grown this big. But for AGI or ASI, do you think you can have visions?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Yes, I can say so. Computer has no emotion or cannot understand emotion. Human beings can do so. That is the conventional way of thinking. Because we, human beings, looking down how the computer is. So it is just part of intelligence. Dogs, cats have emotion. That's because neurons are being active to think about something and then with emotion. So the number of neurons. So ASI with a number of neurons. Why cannot ASI have emotion? So even now, GPT, emotions are there.

So Sam of OpenAI also said that slowly, but absolutely. So this started has emotion that will be by GPT 5 or 6 or like Gemini also, but it's just a matter of time. It will become more with emotion. So when you have ultimate emotion realized, then ASI and AGI can be realized as well. So I have already filed the patent for this emotion-related thing 10 years ago. So then sooner or later, my patents will be useful. So next question is a female shareholder over there.

Speaker 4

My number is 62. Thank you very much for a wonderful presentation. Maybe my question is similar to whatever somebody mentioned before. ASI, do you think ASI can eradicate wars in the world?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Yes, I believe so. At least AGI and ASI. Some people are concerned they may kill humans altogether. I think the other way around. There are some people who may kill people in the world, you know whom. What if somebody pushed that button? Maybe humans, not general humans I'm talking about, a particular small group of people. I think that's something that we should be afraid of more. ASI is smarter, and ASI should work with their super intelligence for the people, to protect people. To protect people, ASI, I think, will come up with ideas and give safety to people. That's what I think about ASI, AGI. With the green paper. Please keep raising your green card, green paper. Thank you. 601.

Speaker 4

So right now, the space industry is also quite active, especially in the U.S. As for SoftBank, do you have any plan to enter the space industry?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Not directly, but our investee, one of the investees, is doing the satellite communication or HAPS related. And so we may be investing in those areas, but it's not that we want to fly to the moon or to establish a space station, but to cover the Earth communication, to realize once ASI has realized to protect the Earth, the intelligent infrastructure. For that, maybe possible, but there is no intention that will be directly launching a rocket. Okay, next question. Somebody holding a blue board over there.

Speaker 4

My number is 0217. It's been reported in the media since several months. AI accelerator that complement ARM, I think SBG has built a case, and I think it's highly likely to make it happen. Can you share anything about that? And Rene, I think in January this year, there was a mention in a Nikkei interview that whatever you wanted to do with NVIDIA is something that he can do by themselves without NVIDIA.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

For each and every specific project or strategy, it's hard for me to make a comment, but I made it clear that we will realize ASI. There are some things that we do on our own, other things we work together with others. So there are different tools in a toolbox. So again, directly or indirectly, we will do. Yeah, this is a SoftBank AGM, so I am not going to give the ARM roadmap here. [Foreign language]. So in the interest of time, we will take 3 more questions from the floor. With a white paper, a female shareholder in the front row.

Speaker 4

I had purchased NVIDIA's shares before to split. So because back then, Mr. Son, you were saying that to sell NVIDIA's, and back then was $115 per share. And so I was wondering why you were saying that to sell NVIDIA's share, that the shares that I purchased back then is over like JPY 400 million worth now.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Thank you so much. Wow, that's great. I can't remember if I ever said that I would sell to the media, but anyways, I admired NVIDIA and even before and after selling the shares of NVIDIA, I am still in good terms with Jensen. So even after that, 5% of NVIDIA's shares we were holding. And why we sold is that we had to focus on SoftBank Vision, and we had to improve the businesses of SoftBank Vision. So I was hesitant to sell that, but we needed also some cash. And I was crying, yeah, I don't want to be reminded of. So 5%, if we had kept that, it would be how much?

JPY 20 billion or so. Let's stop talking about this. It would have been more JPY 20 billion. No, JPY 200 trillion. 5%. JPY 25 trillion. JPY 25 trillion. Would it have been JPY 25 trillion? It's almost the same as ARM's share. So if I, yeah, I had purchased 5% of NVIDIA, it was really instantly I bought, wow, JPY 25 trillion. Let's stop talking about this. I just get sad. [Foreign language]. Can you please repeat your number? No. Forget about that. Female shareholder over there in the E row, please.

Speaker 4

My number is 0312. Thank you very much for passionate talk today. SoftBank attracts shareholders thanks to your passion and charm. And I believe that our shareholders are as excited as you are now. You mentioned earlier the way you work recently. I have a concern. Two questions. First, how do you manage your health? What do you do specifically to keep you healthy? And second, do you have any worry personally? I think talking about the risk management, what areas you pay attention to or pay attention to when it comes to risk management? Thank you.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Health. I love exercise. I love sports. Golf, for example. One of my hobbies is playing golf, but I'm too busy to play golf recently. But when I play golf with my young people, like a par 4, and we compete each other sometimes. So I love golfing. And sometimes young guys beat me, but sometimes I beat them. I have a small pride in myself. I try to play sports as much as possible. I want to continue doing that, but you need to sleep still. I try to have good sleep as much as possible, but my right brain wakes me up. But I should pay more attention to my health more. But when it comes to health, accident. I am worried about the potential accident. So accident, health.

Well, when it comes to work, I don't have many worries or concerns. I love debt. I love borrowing money, but it's less than 10% against the value. But again, our LTV is 25% level. So 25% or less than 25% of the total value. So long as we borrow money while keeping that threshold. Well, in my work case, I learned a harsh lesson, and I apologized, actually. But when it comes to work, I don't have any worry or work does not keep me weak. So I am super confident when it comes to work. So no worry. So maybe the last question. One last question from the floor. With the white paper. 0501.

Speaker 4

About ASI. What should we prepare for the era of ASI?

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

You are still young. It's a great question.

Speaker 4

I'm 22 years old.

Masayoshi Son
Founder and Board Director, SoftBank Group Corp.

Wow. You are sitting in the very first row, and I was thinking about appointing you for a Q&A session. Well, you are 22 years old, and you're going to live for like 200 years from now on because the medicine is going to be advanced that far. So the next 10 years, I think ASI would come. Well, if it is realized, then what is happiness? What is your life? We would be thinking more seriously and to leverage it in an ultimate way and to contribute to the happiness of people. So I think you should be thinking how you could contribute because you cannot avoid ASI when it comes.

Rather than avoiding, even from now, you should be proactively using. I use ChatGPT every day. I'm a heavy user. In the era of ASI, every single person will own its own agent. Not only one or two agents, but your own agent, not your subordinate, but as a partner or maybe a mentor to you or your supervisor. That level of ASI partners will be realized in a virtual environment. You could have not only one, but multiple partners to talk about investment or talk about your hobbies, sports, or work. Your supervisor, your mentor, your partner, ASI as such. On a daily life basis, you will be living with ASI and as a physical partner, and not only one ASI partner, but more, not only humanoid.

Such a society is where when you become in your 40s or 50s or 60s, it will be completely fused, integrated in your daily lives in the coming years. So like not matured expertise makes some comments or gives you some advice, but it's not fully professional. So they just give from their piece of knowledge and give some limitation and some immature AI expertise comments. Don't listen to them because they don't know. So it doesn't have to be AI expertise, but in your instinct, what you should do when it comes to the era of ASI, someone like you, a young people. So to talk about your life in the future. So how I use GPT is that to be more interactive, not just to search, but we just debate and then talk about my ideas.

I ask, "You are a genius scientist, A, B, and C. And how would you solve this problem? Can you debate? Can you guys debate in front of me?" And then those three GPTs keep debating. And then from a different angle, I put my and I ask them, and then I ask them to debate in front of me. And then once there is a consensus among them, and so when until they come to a consensus, then I keep them debating. It's so interesting. It's really informative. Rather than discussing with my own subordinates, it's so exciting. I just cannot resist doing that. So within ASI, you don't have to enter. You don't have to feed by yourself. Maybe you just wear glasses and the conversation you made in the past or the people you met in the past or the meetings you joined in the past.

Then remember those and then give some comments or input. So they are too smart. They are too intelligent. They are more like 10,000 times smarter than us, but they are updating themselves on a daily basis or by every second. So if that word comes and those who are talking about the limitation of or limit of AI, so I can talk about this for the next 48 hours. Well, we should stop. We have to take questions from the internet. Maybe we can take 5 questions. Now I'd like to address questions received from online sharers today. First question. Izanagi, plan to build a company to build a chip for AI. I am excited about the plan. To what extent can you share with us about the plan, Izanagi? Well, specifically, I cannot say anything. For the goal, I publicly said that I am committed.

By the way, so because of potential competition, I cannot make everything public in this professional world. We need to fight on the performance. But I am committed to the result. How to achieve the goal? I cannot make any comment at the moment, but I am committed to achieving the goal. こちら。 Next question. The relationship between ARM and NVIDIA is like the AI semiconductors and the ARM CPU is embedded. Do you think their relationship will become like a rival relationship in the future? Well, I'm in good terms with Jensen of NVIDIA, and I believe that they will become the best partner moving forward. But ARM's technology will be extended and the same with the other way around. And so there may be the area they may be collaborating partly. NVIDIA is a great company, and we would like to keep supporting NVIDIA. Next question. Mr.

Son, about the health. You suffered from a serious disease when you were young. Yes, I spent 3 years in a hospital, but I am super healthy even though my voice is a little bit hard. Yeah, I suffered from hepatitis B, but I'm okay now. Why is the amount of shares held by Mr. Miyauchi decreasing drastically? Why is it so? Mr. Miyauchi, SBKK's position, so are you going to retire soon? Thank you for your question. Yes, I still own 1 million shares. Well, that's a big amount. I don't want to talk in detail, but under the scheme of Mizuho Bank, and so I used to have like 2 million or so, but I returned the loan like JPY 5.5 billion back, and I returned back in this summer. So considering my age, so I gave a baton to Mr. Miyakawa.

It was successful for SBKK and for SBG, Mr. Son, so I've been telling Mr. Son to replace me with a younger talent. So like 5 years ago or so, he is telling me that he wanted to retire. I always say no. As far as he's healthy, because Miyauchi and he was my number two, and I was always like talking about the bigger ideas. And then when I jumped into the new evolution, and then Miyauchi, he so I was in charge of evolution, and he was in charge of multiplication. So you had to return the loan. You have to address one last question, agenda of the meeting. Do you consider privatizing yourself or delisting? I have thought about that several times because our share price is 70% discounted sometimes. And I thought it was unfair.

Then instead, why don't we privatize ourselves and do it on our own? To be honest, I thought about that before, and I might think about that in the future again. Our stock price is too much discounted, like I said a little bit before, JPY 34 trillion worth, excluding debt. But market cap was JPY 14 trillion. ARM's value, JPY 22 trillion, JPY 21 trillion, still market cap is JPY 14 trillion. That's what's so-called Masa Son discount. Am I the hurdle and big objection. Without me, the market cap would go up to JPY 10 trillion, JPY 20 trillion, or more. But again, that's peanuts. That's not a big deal. So stay tuned. So nobody knows what will happen. No promise at all. Shall I buy back or not? Privatization or not? Or stay on the course whatever? Realizing ASI is my only focus.

Thank you very much for those great questions.

So now I'd like to take votes. Our moderator will explain how to proceed. For the online shareholder, please select approve or disapprove for all of the proposals on the website and click exercise. Please note that all submissions will be made in a single transmission. While we confirm the result of online shareholders, I'd like to take a vote from visiting shareholders. Now let us take votes. Online shareholders, please exercise your vote through the internet. First, take a vote on proposal one, appropriation of surplus or dividend payment. All those visiting in favor of the original proposal, please clap your hand. Thank you very much. I'll take a vote on proposal two, election of nine board directors. All those visiting in favor of the original proposal, please clap your hands. Thank you so much. Please wait for a moment. We are confirming the result.

Thank you for your patience. I will report the confirmed result. Proposal one and proposal two have received a majority of affirmative votes. I am re-elected. Now all the proposals have been approved in the form proposed. Thank you very much. This concludes today's agenda and hereby declare the 44th Annual General Meeting of Shareholders of SoftBank Group Corp. closed. Last but not least, I'd like to share my favorite video with you for the end of the meeting. Again, after you heard about my commitment to ASI, please have a look at the video once again, although the video itself was made 10 years ago, but have a watch.

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