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Earnings Call: Q3 2023

Nov 23, 2023

Edward Paździorko
VP of Management Board for Technical and Operational Matters, Jastrzębska Spółka Węglowa

Good morning. We would like to welcome you, ladies and gentlemen. We'd like to welcome our shareholders of the JSW Group for today's results conference. We would like to present the results of the company for Q3 2023. We will also refer to Q2, and we'll also sum up the results for the first nine months of the year. During today's presentation, as in previous presentations, we'll talk about our segments, Sebastian. Sebastian Bartos will talk about the market environment. Robert Ostrowski, who is the CFO, will talk about the financials. And myself, Edward Paździorko, and so I'm the Technical Operations Director, and I'll talk about the operating and investment results. On the first slide, we'll show you the figures, the highlights, showing what we did in Q3 versus Q2.

If we look at coal production, it was 3.4 million tons, and so this was up over Q2 by nearly 3%, by more than 100,000 tons. As I mentioned at a previous conference, we said that the remaining quarters would see growing output. Of course, there are some geological impediments. Coke production is more or less at the same level, at 852,000 tons. It's a slight difference. It's down by 0.1% over the previous quarter. If we look at the mining cash cost, it's down in Q3 at PLN 740.37 , and so it's improvement of 0.7%. If we look at the cash conversion cost for coke, it's PLN 320.81.

So it's up by 3.5% versus Q2. If we look at sales revenues, they're at PLN 3.44 billion. And so if we look at the results, they're down by 17.8% versus Q2. And in the next rectangle, we can see what contributed to the sales revenues. So the average coking coal price was PLN 979 . And you can see that the market environment was such that the prices were down by 20.7% versus Q2. And so we can also see in coke prices that they were down to PLN 1,358 , and they were also down by 20% versus Q2. The EBITDA net of one-offs in this quarter was PLN 1.028 billion, and it was down versus Q2 by 37.5%.

So the net result, we should look at that in two categories. So if we look at the Solidarity Contribution, which is what? Nearly PLN 1.6 million. And this had an impact on the result, which was -PLN 1.2 billion. If that contribution didn't have to be made, then the group in Q3 would have had, would have had a profit of PLN 95.5 million. And so at the end of the nine months, we have a net profit of more than PLN 885 million. So then if we go on to the next slides, look at the operating results of the JSW Group. So if we look at coal and coke production, so coal production was in our four mines, two combined mines. So we have Borynia, Zofiówka, and Budryk.

That has three sections, and then we have one that has two sections, Knurów and Szczygłowice, and then we have the Budryk mine and the Pniówek mine, which is standalone mines. And so we can see that production was 3.4 million tons, and as I said on the first slide, it was up by 3% over Q2, despite the geological impediments which we had in the Pniówek section and Budryk. And if we look at this production into the coking coal segment, after we look at the market, we can see that we were able to increase that production substantially by 132,000 tons. So we were up over Q2, and we reduced the production of steam coal by 32,000 tons.

So as we sum up the first nine months of the year, we have production of 10.1 million tons, which is lower than the previous year by 4.6%. So we've had 53,000 tons per day, but we have more coking coal in excess of 82% across all of the mines. And so we've had 8.85 million tons of coking coal. So there's a small difference, 35,000. We are trying to reduce the amount of steam, steam coal, and so we want to reduce that versus previous year. We dropped that by nearly 400,000 tons. So we've had active longwalls, 24 active longwalls in Q3. So the number of active longwalls was up by 4.3% versus Q2.

So to sum up, for the first nine months of the year, we've had an average of 22.5 longwalls versus previous year, where in the first nine months we had more longwalls. So there's a difference of 7% year-on-year. If we look at the corridor works in Q3, we were able to do more than 17.3 thousand meters. So this was down by nearly 4% over Q2. If we talk about preparatory works. So these are the ones that we were doing with in-house teams as well as external or outsourced teams. So we had some geological dislocations. And so we were working on some of the galleries, and so that's why some of the differences appeared.

So we had a ratio of activity of 5.1-5.6 in terms of expanding the amount of gallery works. So if we look at the first 9 months of the year, we can see that we've done a lot more corridor works. We've done some 56,189 meters, where this is up by some 6% over the previous year, with more than 3,000 meters. We don't have a lot of differences in terms of the work done by our own staff, but we did see some pretty major increase amongst the external companies. So like 3,800 more meters. If we look at coal production, as I mentioned, the difference quarter-on-quarter was not consequential. So we had 85...

Sorry, 852.5 thousand tons, a difference of 0.1% quarter-on-quarter. We can see that our coke plants continue to be active. We have our three coke plants, Przyjaźń, which had the major amount of production. Then we had the Jadwiga and then the Radlin coking plant. We can say that the utilization of capacity is around 95%. For technological reasons, it's not possible to have 100% utilization of capacity. If we look at the first nine months of the year, we have year to date, 2.4 billion tons, and so this is 2.4% down from the previous year. Blast furnace coke is more than 74% of the mix.

And then we have met coke and foundry coke, and then the second thing is industrial coke. This is some 24%. This is more or less where how things look operationally. Then we can go on to the next slide. The market environment, and I would like to ask Sebastian Bartos to go ahead and tell us a little bit about the market environment.

Sebastian Bartos
VP of Management Board for Sales, Jastrzębska Spółka Węglowa

Thank you very much. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. So I'd like to say a few words about what's happened in the reporting period. So what do we see as a company? If we look at coking coal, steam coal and steel. So I would take a look at the international markets, because JSW is part of that market.

It's not the maker of that market, but the taker of the prices on this market, and so it has to align to the reality that we see in across Europe and in the world. So if we look at steel production and looking at the EU and across the world, if we look at Q2 and Q3 of this year, we see once again that there's a split. The decline in production is much bigger in Europe than across the world, so it's down by nearly 10%, whereas around the world, the decline is less than 5%. What is noteworthy, this is quarterly data. Quarterly data are not always indicative what's happened over the last nine months from the beginning of the year.

We can see that the decline in Europe is around 9%-10%, but around the world, production was down by nearly 0.1%. So you can see there's a split or dichotomy between Europe and the rest of the world. And to make this even more visible with greater detail, you don't see this on the slide, but I would like to emphasize one thing. If we were to want to compare Q3 2021 to this period, so if we look at two years ago, in Europe, the production decline is in excess of 20%, whereas the rest of the world, it's around 1%. So we can see more and more that there is a dichotomy.

So the economic conditions for producing steel in Europe and the ability to sell these products versus the rest of the world, I'm talking about India and China, primarily. Those are the two continents which are the drivers of steel production. If we look at prices in Europe and across the world for coal, coke, we can start with steel prices. If we look at all of the ratios, the indicators, they're all negative, both for long products and flat products. In the European markets, we have declines of some 15% if we compare these quarters. But to give you an illustration of what's happening with production of steel, in the most recent two years, price has fallen by some 41%, 31%. So it's more or less...

So we can say that the good period, I'm not talking about the most recent record-breaking year, but the last 2-3 years, where we can say these indicators really clearly show that the market is slowing down after the record-breaking period we have behind us, and the same is true of coke prices. The situation is quite similar, so European prices and Chinese prices have fallen. So the decline in Europe is 14%. Just looking at the movement from Q2 to Q3, it's 6%, that same period in China. So Chinese coking prices are at very low levels, and that's why the decline is not so notable or noticeable. And so one thing that we should give some commentary, if we look about semi-soft, we can see, say that this is part of the general trend for falling prices in commodities.

But if we look at the premium, so the hard coking coal, which is the basis for contracts of JSW, well, the. We see some increases. This is a totally different situation versus the rest of the commodities market. That's because the top quality coal is sought after, mainly thanks to the demand of the Indian market, which is growing. So we can say this coal has customers, there's a demand for it, and there's pressure having in mind the supply of that coking coal, and so we're trying to utilize, utilize that as JSW. I remember there was a longer discussion on this subject, 'cause it seems it was two or three years ago, American coal was priced higher than Australian coal, and the question is whether or not JSW should follow those higher indicators, and we said no.

And it turns out that this was a very good decision. This was an ephemeral effect, and we can see that the Australian price indices are substantially higher. So this applies not only to the weaker, softer, semi-soft coal, but also the hard premium coking coal. So to be brief, all of the indicators in the most recent quarter and the last 9 months, and even the last 2 years, well, they're negative. They're in the red, with the exception of one product, which is our key product, and which is our benchmark for setting prices in Europe and for our coking plants, and I'll talk about that in a moment when we talk about coke production and what the economic viability of that is. This is positive 'cause as a company, we're trying to tap into that. Next slide, please.

So if we look at our results, despite the windfall tax, despite the ownership decision on legal regulations, we were obligated to pay this tax. And so we have a profit of PLN 840 million year to date, despite the more demanding market conditions. If we look at the figures reported in the last couple quarters and the orange bars, you can see that prices are falling, and this is consistent with what we see on the international prices. So I would mention here that we're selling, this is the general price of—so this is the combined price also with semi-soft. And we have these price formulas, different models, which I talked to you about. And then we have the Nippon Steel model.

Previous quarters, we have spot market prices, and so for us, the quotation period, the reference period, which you can see in the gray box, that's the most recent five months. If we look at the changes in this box, we can see that change, the prices have fallen by some 20%, and that's what the result of JSW reflects. So we have a decline of the same amount. So compared to the international market, we're highly positioned, having in mind our geographic rent, and we're gonna have to—we're trying to avoid the export of coal outside of the market. We continue to have a 97% replication of the TSI premium HCC prices. So again, this is another quarter where we've been very close to the benchmark.

If we look at coke prices and what we've been able to command as JSW, so the average price for coke was $407, and now it's $329, so it's down by some 21%. But the coke market is totally different. It's much more complicated market than the coking coal market. It's much more sensitive, much more fragmented, and we can say on the coke market in Europe and outside of Europe, this is the market where the buyers are in control. There's a lot of surplus product, and for some time, we have an unfavorable relationship between the prices. If we look at the most recent months, we have prices at the same level for coking coal and coke.

And if we have to use 1.4, 1.3 times of physical coal in order to produce a ton of coke, depending on whether you're using the top stamping method or some other method for inputting the charge of coking coal, we have one disadvantage against coke. Of course, the coking plants have their own costs, and you have the cash conversion cost and the margin that it should generate. So if we're looking at these price relationships, it's not possible for European coking plants to generate a positive result. For this reason, I'll talk about that, our policy as a group. We're an integrated group, so we have coke as part of the coking coal production, and so we're quite a different entity.

So the policy of pricing we're using, and of course, we have to have in mind the market, which is over-inundated with coke. We want to maintain all of our contracts despite the negative results on the coke segment. We won't deviate from these contracts. We want to show our stability as a large coking coal and coke group here in Europe and abroad. We have a lot of volumes sold outside of Europe, and this is another argument. As we look at the prices that we're able to command, compared to what you see elsewhere, where you see the Chinese coke in gray and the prices for European coke. So we're much closer to the Chinese prices. But two things are worthy of being noted. We compare ourselves and think about the relationships with blast furnace coke.

Here you have a combined or a blended price for all of the coke products that come from our coking plants. So we have even minor fractions where the prices are lower. So we have to have in mind what's happening with supply in Europe. So a major portion of our products, we're exporting this through the ports and exporting it outside of Europe to make sure that we can continue to use 100% of the capacity, production capacity in our coking plants. And having in mind the geographic rent and the differences aren't so large any longer. If we think about the costs of freight, overseas freight, we have EUR 40 to go from to the river beach, so, and then you have EUR 55 on the seas, but, you know, the market conditions are different.

But these are markets we want to continue to nourish, and we want to have the full capacity to utilize the capacity we have in the group. I would add one other thing. We're the only group in Europe that has. We don't reduce production in our coking plants. We're using our own coal. We're taking advantage of the fact that we don't have to buy coking coal in the market. We're using our own coking coal. We know the production costs of that coal, and if we look at that, we can maximize production of coking coal and coke. Even though we're on difficult markets, we're able to achieve two things, and that's why I've been showing you the result. We talked about the year-to-date result.

If there were no tags, and we look at the year-to-date result for the first nine months of the year, we can just see that it's a positive result. If you look at these three quarters, I would say that's more than decent. There's hundreds of millions of profit, having in mind the maximization of coal production and coke production. The second advantage we hold, and this will generate profits in the future, is that without deviating from these contracts and maintaining this pricing policy, we have more and more cases that we're able to take over coal supply contracts that were handled by other entities that are also commercial players, but they have to purchase that coal, and that situation can't last for long.

Having in mind these price relationships, each one of these coking plants in Europe will generate losses, and they're gonna want to reduce those losses, so they'll reduce their production levels, scale back production, and if those relationships don't change, perhaps they may have to apply extreme cases and turn off some of the coking plants, and this will create additional opportunities for us as JSW. So this is a cogent policy, having in mind the unique position JSW has, and since we're a producer both of coking coal and coke, we have a totally different cost structure as opposed to the value change in the steel chain, where many steel plants have their internal coking plants, and they buy coking coal. So for them, the coking plant doesn't generate very much of an impact. So for them, the most important thing is the steel price.

And so, coke is only one of the things, and so they're calculating the price of steel at the end. We have a totally different structure because we have our own coking coal. We know the cost of producing that coking coal, and then we have sources, two sources of revenue. So when we sell coking coal and when we sell coke to third parties, and so we'll continue to follow this approach. And then one last slide. One last element on this slide. So these are the prices for steam coal. I don't think we need to dwell on this at length, having in mind the most recent two quarters. So we are in line with the Polish steam coal index. We are not above, we're not below. What is noteworthy are two things. I reiterated this at the most recent conference.

We did not agree to renegotiate prices this year in terms of steam coal deliveries or supplies, but since we work together with the domestic players, so our deliveries are being done in line with the contract. The deviances, the deviances are not so major that we don't have any differences in our inventories. So we can say these contracts are being performed pretty well, and that's important because we have a market where there's a glut of steam coal in several million tons of coal. This is not a topic for conversation at today's conference. So in November, December of last year, we agreed on certain things in terms of supplies of steam coal, and this is something that will bring benefit through the end of this year.

So the next slide, the sales of coal produced in the group, and here we distinguish between two streams, sales of coal to external customers and then sales of coal to our own coking plants. So in Q2 and Q3, we see an increase of 6%. This is primarily done through steam coal to a lesser extent in coking coal, so it's rather stable there. But since Q3, this is when there's bigger demand in the power sector. So we can see that we've been able to sell a little bit more steam coal, a couple percentage points up. If we compare the nine months of this year to the nine months of last year, with respect to sales of coal to external customers, we have a decline of 13.5%. Why?

If you look at the black bars or part of the bars, we continue to be quite stable. So we're able to sell what we produce... in more or less in the same period. So we're selling to international steel companies, so like Mittal in Poland, and it's all quite stable. The decline you see is in steam coal. Why? Well, last year, despite the demanding period that JSW faced, we had certain mine catastrophes. The company, since it wanted to maintain its total output and seeing what's happening on the steam coal, where there was a lack of coal on the market, we were able to sell through spot contracts at better prices. So we increased, in that period, the production of steam coal in the northern mines when it was still sensible, and so that way, we were able to fill the gap on the market.

The second thing, we were able to utilize the spot market prices. So it was an exceptional year in that sense. Now we're returning to normalcy, and so we are maximizing the production of coking coal, and we're minimizing the production of steam coal. If we look at the sales of coal to internal customers, if we compare Q2 and Q3, we're quite similar. We're stable here. So quarter-over-quarter, not much has changed. So we have regular steam coal supplies, and you can see our coke plants are operating on a stable basis. If we look at the first nine months of this year versus the first nine months of last year, we can see a slight decline of roughly 5%. This is because in Q1, our coke plants weren't operating at full speed.

They obtained that capacity in the subsequent months, and so we're close to 100% of capacity utilization. So the difference is that Q1 was not a full production quarter this year. If we look at the revenues on the sales of coal to external customers, as always, this is a compilation of the tonnages and the prices and what we showed in terms of the prices of coking coal and steam coal. So we have declined of 11.6% from Q2 to Q3, and we're down by 22.6% in the first nine months of last year compared to the first nine months of this year. So we can say, if we look at the average selling price, as I said, we're down by 20% for coking coal, whereas in the gray you see the differences for steam coal.

You have a slight increase of 2.6%, from Q2 to Q3 is 2%. You can say, basically, these contracts are being performed under stable conditions. So as we can see the subsequent paragraph, so this graph, where you can say that there's been some pretty major increases in the price hikes on steam coal, and so they're up by 90% over the previous year. We have a decline of coking coal prices of nearly 29%. So if we compare these two periods, this is what you see, and this is in line with the global trends for the prices of coking coal. Next slide is about coke sales. If we look at Q2 and Q3, we have a decline of some 8%, some 80,000 tons.

Our coke plants are operating at nearly production capacity, so these type of variations are relatively quarter-over-quarter. This is more a matter of accounting practice. So, the ships that we're sending out... If we're sending out at the end of June, and for some reason, the dispatch takes place on the first of July, then this is something that's shifted to the next quarter. So this is more or less the difference of one major ship or two Panamax ships, and this is basically a result of ongoing operating activity. So the stability that I'm talking about, I'm not talking about quarterly variations, but you can see that as you compare the first nine months of last year to the first nine months of this year, we're up by 2.3%, so we're trying to sell the products we have.

So we're selling all of the production from the coking plants, and so we have this in our sales data, what we wanted to sell, and we've basically recovered the revenue for that. If you look at the average coke sales price? So it's down by 20%, and I told you a few minutes ago about the various international pricing mechanisms. We are compliant with that market. We have our own pricing policy and our own goals for the future, and having in mind what our group consists of and what we want to achieve in subsequent quarters or over the next couple of years. So if we look at the first nine months of this year and the previous year, we're down by some 33% in terms of coke sales prices.

This is exactly what's happened on the coking market in the last couple of years. Coke prices have fallen much farther than coking coal prices, and they're more or less equivalent to the coking coal prices. If we look at the revenues on sales of coke and hydrocarbons to external customers, again, this is a compilation of tonnages and prices, and so price is the main reason why we have less revenue. Q2 to Q3, we have a decline of 28%, and we're down by 30% if we look at the nine months, first nine months of 2022 to the first nine months of 2023. Then the last slide is about coal inventories. If we look at our inventory, at the end of September, we had 771,000 tons.

That's 23% up compared to the end of June. So this 770,000 tons, if we divide that up amongst the coke mines, so it's up by some 20%. And so we can see this in steam coal. We have to be aware that on account of geology, it's not possible for the mine to operate, where quarter-on-quarter, we would have ideal stability, that we are able to extract the same amounts from under the ground every quarter, quarter in, quarter out. That never happens. And so you can see that in the results presented by Mr. Paździorko, that the volumes are higher. And if we look at the steam coal market, we're not able to sell additional quantities.

The good result is that our core contract has been performed, and that's the main source of improvement, and we'll work on this for next year. But inventories of 771,000 tons is not anything that's exceptional. Well, basically, if we want to operate smoothly in all of our mines and realize our contracts, this is a kind of a technical inventory. If we look at coke inventory, and so of course, there's an increase of 30%, but that number doesn't really mean that much to us. If we look at the scale, we have 3.5 million tons, with 1.5 million tons being sent out by sea, having an inventory of 100 and some odd thousand tons to 200-300 thousand tons. This is the type of inventory the company should have.

We could say that the inventory the previous quarter was dramatically low and made a risk for the handling of shipments, and we can say that in Q3, we're at the required minimum level. That's it from my side. Thank you.

Edward Paździorko
VP of Management Board for Technical and Operational Matters, Jastrzębska Spółka Węglowa

Now we can go on to the investments of the JSW Group. So distinguished ladies and gentlemen, this is the topic that's the most important for every company, every business, and you can see whether or not we're building the future or not. So we have the following investments, CapEx in JSW Group, net of consolidation eliminations on an accrual basis. So Q3, we had CapEx of PLN 1.1 billion, and versus Q2, we had an increase of 8%. We can say that in every segment, especially in the coal segment... So in the coke segment, in the other segments, we've seen increases.

So if we look at the first nine months of this year to the first nine months of last year, we can say that our CapEx has touched PLN 3 billion, almost up to PLN 3.1 million—PLN 3.1 billion. Comparing that to last year, when we had PLN 1.9 billion, we're up by 62.5%. You can see that in the most important coal segment, in the coke segment, so we're increasing our CapEx, and I'll, and I'll talk about those two core segments, which are of critical importance for our operations. We can also see the increase in the other segments in JSW, so our renovation company... or what we're doing. And then Northern Mines, purchasing of Microsoft licenses, and so on and so forth.

If we look in the IT company, we've been purchasing PPE and payments for leases. We can say that in Q3, we had PLN 1.015 billion in CapEx, and we are up by 3.1%. This is CapEx on a cash basis. If we look at the first nine months of the year versus the first nine months of last year, we're up by 50.4%, so above 3 billion compared to the same period of last year, or the corresponding period of last year. If we look at the two major segments, we have CapEx in JSW. This is the typical coal segment on an accrual basis. We had CapEx of PLN 887.5 million, and this was up over Q2 by 3.4%.

We have seen increases, expenditures for leases, expenditures of expandable mining pits , and longwall outfitting and purchases of finished capital assets. If we look at the first nine months of the year, we are above PLN 2.5 billion. Which when compared to the corresponding period of nine months of the last year, they're 72.9% higher. Each one of these segments saw a substantial increase, starting with expandable mining pits and strategic, horizontal and vertical areas. We had PLN 670 million, then PLN 482 million, so it's quite substantial growth over the previous year. Generally speaking, we can say that we've made purchases, and we've done some longwall outfitting, and we have mechanized shields. We're modernizing some more than PLN 150 million zlotys, and we're buying...

Nearly PLN 38 million we spent on longwall shearers and transportation equipment. So for the transportation of people and staff, and then materials, we want to make sure that time of work is used efficiently in trying to overcome some of the difficulties. We spent more than PLN 200 million there. Then if we look at the capital expenditures for expandable mining pits and longwall outfitting, there was an increase of PLN 400 million, so it's PLN 1.2 billion we spent on that. And this was primarily for longwall outfitting. Then the next segment, we have more than PLN 106 million more, and this is our expenditure for leases. As I said, we were able to increase that by some PLN 1.1 billion in the first nine months of the year, our total CapEx.

A second very important segment is JSW Koks, and on an accrual basis, we can see our capital expenditures. Q3 is a little bit over PLN 135 million, which is up by 3.3%. If we look at the first nine months of the year, we can see that we had CapEx of PLN 373 million, and this was up by some PLN 30 million over the previous quarter. That's 8.7% higher. We're modernizing coking batteries for the coking plant, Przyjaźń, and energy generation unit, power generation units in Radlin, as well as allowances. This is what's been happening with our CapEx or investments, and you can see that we've been able to scale up those investments year in, year out.

Basically, this is changing the future, building the future of the company, despite the impediments we encounter, market impediments and others. And we also have, you know, methane and other geological factors to deal with, which were quite difficult. And now we'll have the financial highlights of the group. I'd like to ask Mr. Robert Ostrowski to go ahead and present the subsequent slides on that subject.

Robert Ostrowski
CFO, Jastrzębska Spółka Węglowa

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. The first slide I would discuss is a composite picture. Later, I'll show you the drill down data in Q3 and for the first nine months of the year. Some data will be presented as rounded data.... As discussed previously, the group's revenue in Q3 was PLN 3.402 billion, down by 17.8%. Of course, Bartos said quite a bit about prices and the market context.

I can say a few more words about that later, but after the first nine months of the year, we can say that our revenue is nearly PLN 12 billion, which is down by 25% compared to the first nine months of last year. Here, one caveat, 2022 was an exceptional year in terms of the revenue and the income, having in mind the nature of our product, and it was a total exceptional year. Then we have EBITDA, net of non-recurring events. So it's PLN 531 million, down by 61% versus Q2. If we take into account, then the one-offs, it was PLN 1.028 billion. If the first nine months, it was PLN 3.8 billion, and if we compare it to the first nine months of the previous year, it was down by 57.1%.

If we look at the EBITDA result, net of one-offs, it was PLN 4.6 billion. If we look at net working capital, let me point out the information we present here on this slide. Basically, is adjusted with respect to the balance sheet at the end of September. The PLN 6 billion has in mind the money we've invested in FIZ, so the closed-end investment fund. But according to the standards for presentation of this fund, those assets are carried as non-current assets. But having in mind the pricing policy, investment policy, we have liquid, our investments are liquid and short term and can be liquidated within 12 months. So we treat this as a current asset, even though in the balance sheet, it's treated as a non-current asset.

If we were to calculate the net working capital on a balance sheet basis, then at the end of September, we would have a negative result of PLN 2.4 billion. The net result in Q3, we have a loss of PLN 1.2 billion, which comes from the fact that we've had the windfall tax of almost PLN 1.6 billion. If we were to net out that result, we would have a profit of PLN 95.5 million, just for you to know. But the profit for the first nine months of the year is PLN 845 million. But also including the windfall tax, last year, we had a very high profit of nearly PLN 6.4 billion. Let me come back briefly to the FIZ, so the closed-end fund, 'cause we present this asset in a variety of ways.

So we talk about them on a gross basis. So we have in mind also the investments that are run by the TFI, the fund management company. And so this is PLN 8.4 billion, but the net result in our is PLN 5.3 billion in the stand-alone financial statements. And so on the liability side, in short-term liabilities, we have some PLN 3.3 billion, which is about the FIZ, and that's because of transactions conducted by the entity managing that in closed-end investment fund. The next slide is about the change in sales revenues in Q3 versus Q2. Here we can see a decline, so we're at PLN 3.4 billion, whereas in Q2, we were at PLN 4.1 billion. What was it contributed to that change? Let me start with the negative impacts.

First, we have the impact of coking coal price change, and that's PLN 393 million. So the average prices fell by 20.7%. So the average price is substantially lower compared to Q2. The second thing. We have also the impact of coke price change, that's PLN 274 million, and again, that's down by 20%. And so down by some 340 PLN. And we also have the impact of coke sales volume. So less coke is down by 70,000 tons, and the total impact is PLN 131.6 million. And so that's the difference between the quarters. We also have the impact of revenue, which is nearly for other things, which is nearly PLN 65 million. This is hydrocarbons, so tar and benzol.

Here, prices of tar fell, as did the prices for benzol and the volume of benzol. But in tar, we had more volume sold, but basically, our revenue fell in Q3. What didn't fully offset, but was positive, we had the impact of steam coal sales volume. It was up by some 87,000 tons in Q3. And then we also had the volume of coke and coal sales volume, up by 44.3 million. And then we had a small impact of change in steam coal sales prices of PLN 8.6 million. One thing that will be of interest to you is about the costs. And here, between quarters, Q2 and Q3, there is no radical change. It's only less than 3%. So we have total cost of PLN 4.15 billion.

And so materials were up by some PLN 60 million, depreciation by nearly PLN 38 million, and employee benefits were up by PLN 24 million. And then we had external services. Well, this is somewhat related to third parties and our external services. And so this is linked to some of the purchases we made for that purpose. So now I will spend a little more time on the costs differences between in the first nine months of the year, 'cause it's up by 31.5%, and here you have PLN 11.829 billion. What contributed to that compilation of costs? The first thing, which led to higher costs, this was employee benefits, and as such JSW makes the biggest impact. So it's up by PLN 1.4 billion. And so we have the results of the decisions made with the social parties at JSW.

So the agreements that were signed in terms of raising employee benefits by 15.4%. We also see the one-off payments. We had 2 of them, so expensed in June and September. Last year, such a payment was made, and that payment was expensed in June 2022. So we have an increase of PLN 165 million. On top of that, over the first nine months of this year, our employees basically worked more on days off, and that was an increase of less than PLN 96 million. And so companies belonging to the group, as a result of increasing the average headcount, headcount, so in PBSz , and SiG, well, this was because they had more employment, because... Or higher headcount, because we had some attrition in the mines, and we had, because of retirement, and we had to hire some new people.

Then JSW Koks, we had an agreement between the management team and the social party, where there was an, the salary was indexed. The second important line item in these costs that has grown compared to last year is the utilization of materials. We have seen the inflationary-driven costs in all of the places where, like, materials are indexed. We also did more corridor works on our own, so using our own employees, and we also had the materials that we were buying for that purpose. We had higher usage of materials in order to maintain pits and to do the corridor works. The next cost line item are external services, and so they went up by some PLN 456 million. This is nearly by 36%, and that's primarily in JSW.

That's because we bought more drilling services, transport services, and so this is part of the prices of these services, and all done on a pure market basis. If you look at energy usage, where we have our consumption, we have a higher price at JSW. Well, it was nearly up to PLN 117 per MWh. This is a result of the market environment, but energy, to a large extent, is purchased on forward contracts, even so our price increases are not so high. But if we look at 2023, we bought less electricity, so distribution expenses grew by some PLN 55 per MWh, and we felt the impact of higher thermal energy supplies. And this was seen by the results of our member companies. And so we can say that we also had higher expense costs for outfitting long walls.

I can also mention about taxes of nearly PLN 78 million, and this was caused primarily by the higher cost in JSW Koks, because we had to have in mind the CO2 allowances that were to be retired. So some PLN 56 million. And then we also had the differences in energy prices of nearly PLN 10 million. And so this is my commentary on the increases in JSW Group's expenses by nature in the first nine months of 2022, over the first nine months of 2023. This next slide is about mining cash cost. So it was PLN 740.37 . And so we had a slight increase from PLN 745.32 . What happened?

Starting with the negative factors, we had higher costs of PLN 15.89 for employee benefits, for all of the reasons I referred to when I explained what was happening. The second thing is consumption of energy. We have this in compressed air and in electricity. We were buying more megawatt hours for electricity, so nearly PLN 16 . We had higher consumption materials, for the mechanized shields. We had some factors that allowed us to reduce costs. The most important thing was the impact of higher volume. We were up by 3% in coal production, by 3%, and so that improved things by PLN 21.72 . We also have renovation services, and external services, PLN 4.454 , and we have the costs by nature, PLN 1.34 .

That's the information about the mining cash cost. Now, if we go look at the cash conversion cost, which is also a cash cost, and so here we can see that the cash conversion cost is up by nearly PLN 11- PLN 320.81 . And this is primarily because of employee benefits rising. So this was a result of the salary agreement signed in August of this year between the management team and the social parties. Taxes and fees or charges are up by 4.02 PLN. And this is because of the differences of electricity prices, where JSW Koks was selling. So in Q3, we had a slightly less increase in terms of the shortage of CO2 allowances, and we were able to use materials to a lesser extent. This doesn't include the coal input.

We also see the costs minus depreciation, and this is because of higher transportation costs, where this was purchased outside of the group. Then we have external services that are down, and primarily renovation services. The result is the increase in price per ton, in excess of PLN 11 or in excess of PLN 10 . We have a slide that summarizes the impact. We can start at the bottom, so we can see the Mining Cash Cost impact. The impact of expenses saw us move up by PLN 16.77, whereas the impact of volume reduced the price by PLN 21.72. If we look at Cash Conversion Cost, it was up because of expenses and because of what happened with volume. I've already discussed this, the reasons for that on previous slides.

Now, if you look at some of the EBITDA drivers. In Q3 compared to Q2, and so what's the most important? So the volume and the prices caused things to fall by PLN 262 million. And so coke and coal prices were down by a high amount, PLN 394 million. And the volume was up by some 44,000 tons, and for steam coal, it was up by nearly 60,000 tons. So the major factors led to a shift. And then we had coke sales, volume, and price, and that was the biggest impact of nearly PLN 406 million. So contract prices fell by PLN 200-something million. And then the volume was down by 32,000 tons, and so this is the combined impact.

If we look at other sales, so these are hydrocarbons, and that's why this factor is negative. We have the impact of cost by nature, PLN 115 million. This was discussed. If we look at the impact of result on other activities, in total, negative PLN 85 million. Here we have other revenue of up PLN 5 million, and other costs were up by PLN 33 million, and so we had to do an impairment charge. The impact of other activities, we have FX differences, operational things, and so that was up by some PLN 55 million. We have PLN 54 million because of the evaluation or mark-to-market valuation of the assets in the FIZ. We have the changes in products and then depreciation, and then we have basically the EBITDA in the accounting books is probably PLN 31 million.

Then we have non-recurring events to, that we incorporate in the adjustment, which is PLN 497 million, which is an upward adjustment. Above all, we have the additional bonus paid out, PLN 375 million, and the PLN 34 million for the one-off bonus, and then the, forty-three million valuation and more than PLN 20 million in our mines. So the EBITDA without these one-offs would have been PLN 1.028 billion. Now we have the segmental impact on EBITDA. We can talk about what happened on the income side, revenue side, and cost side. Taken jointly, it's down by PLN 677 million. In coke, it's down by PLN 171 million.

Other segments is negligible at PLN 7.4 million, and if we look at the consolidation of eliminations, it's PLN 32.7 million, and so one-offs of PLN 497 million. Now we have a slide which shows the working capital as of 30 September. Have in mind what I cavalierly mentioned at the very beginning in terms of how we treat this closed-end investment fund. So we have the gross value, and then on the liability side, we have the costs with respect to that fund. So assets at the beginning of the quarter was PLN 30.4 billion, and so the adjustments for non-current assets is PLN 10.3 billion. And then we have the three point five billion for the FIZ. And so we have the fixed capital of PLN 20.3 billion. So PPE, intangible assets, and other non-current assets.

In other non-current assets, we have gross value of the fund of PLN 8.7 billion. We treat that, these assets, in our management accounts as a liquid asset. At the end of September, we're negative in the red at PLN 2.4 billion. If you look at the short term, and looking at the assets at the other side and the liabilities on the short term, we have liabilities towards the closed-end investment fund of PLN 3.3 billion, and then we have trade and other receivables of PLN 1.69 billion. This is the windfall tax at the end of September, and this is something that also is, impacts or affects the working capital. The payment took place in the middle of November.

And now we have a slide which talks about the two major ratios we track. This is fixed capitals on current assets ratio. So we look on an accounting basis and on an adjusted basis. So we're below 1 on an accounting basis, but if we adjust it for the assets and the FIZ, it's 1.17, which is more than correct. Then it, net debt, loans, borrowings, and leases, cash, minus cash at the end of the period. So in the management accounts and otherwise, it's a negative value, which is the proper way of shaping the value of this ratio. The last thing, last slide, which talks about cash flow in the group.

So here at the end of June, we had PLN 4.7 billion, and it's a little higher at the end of September at PLN 4.8, almost 9 billion. So we had 109 million profit before tax, then depreciation and amortization, the difference was PLN 445 million-PLN 446 million. Then changes in inventories, which had a negative value of nearly PLN 180 million. Then we have changes in trade and other receivables of PLN 368 million. So we have more there, and we've also increased the trade and other liabilities by almost PLN 302 million. Then we have other operating cash flow of PLN 103 million, and then we have the investments. So the outpayment of cash of PLN 883 million.

This is to acquire permanent assets. Repayment of loans and borrowings, so it's up by nearly PLN 12 million, and then lease payments are up by PLN 53 million. Then we have other financing, cash flows, and FX differences, and this is in the black at nearly PLN 144 million. That's it in terms of the financial highlights, financial highlights of the JSW Group in Q3. Thank you.

Edward Paździorko
VP of Management Board for Technical and Operational Matters, Jastrzębska Spółka Węglowa

Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. This was the core portion of our presentation, where we wanted to show you our results. We can see that the environment shows that we need to be stable, and you can see where we are after these nine months. But despite the difficulties, we continue to generate a profit.

And I wanted to say, when we talk about our results, we had some of the events from last year, which were very difficult, and they... We had the loss of life, and one of the places was the Pniówek Mine, where we had seven of our employees who were underground. This year was also a year in which we've been fighting in order to reach those people, and we were able to achieve that goal. And I would like to thank here the mine management and the employees who prepared to the various stages of that rescue effort. It was broken down into two stages. We were able to reach those persons, and nobody has been left behind. As we speak in our mining jargon, we've been able to wrap up that very difficult phase.

That was difficult for the employees and for the people, for the mines, and so nobody's been left behind. I'd like to say to the Central Rescue Mine Workers Station, I've seen your commitment and engagement. I was there with them, and I tried to assist that with my experience. I also saw that commitment and engagement to run that rescue campaign. I'd like to thank you very warmly, all the people who were involved in that, the people from the fire service, from our rescue, that we also received a special truck in order to extract, to do the work underground. We were also supported with the support of the, of the dogs. We were able to do it, all of that work.

I'd like to thank you for all of your support, despite the very difficult conditions. And so I'd like to thank my employees for preparing this presentation. And so I know that we have a number of questions that were presented, so we'd like to respond to those questions. And so if we have questions, I'd like to ask you to read those questions, and if we're gonna be able to respond to those questions, then we're gonna try to respond to those questions. So the first question: Are you planning or analyzing any efforts, having in mind the very negative relationship between coking coal prices and coke prices? Well, this question is to me. I think we've mentioned this during the presentation.

We're fully aware that the relationship of these prices is unfavorable, and we are a group that's unique because we have integrated ourselves with our coking plants differently. So we have our own coal, and we're not just part of the steel production cost, as if we were a member of the steel mill. So most of the coking plants built across the world are integrated with steel mills. So they buy coal, and then they convert that coal into coke, and this is the batch for the furnace. And so only 5% of the coking plants are merchant cokers like ours, and that's why we're a unique group. What can we do? The market is basically being defined by the glut. And so if the steel industry, primarily in Europe, but across the world, that there's very limited growth.

But in Europe, unfortunately, we're seeing not growth, but declines. So these cokers, internal cokers, are able to satisfy the need of steel plants, and that has an impact on prices. Of course, this is something that's measurable, but there is a group of steel plants that don't have their own coking plants, so we supply coke in Europe and outside of Europe. And so having in mind, even these negative relations, we want to be consistent in pursuing our policy. All of the contracts that we've entered into will be fulfilled in full. And sometimes this is different from what our competition is doing with very high coking coal prices, and sometimes they're reducing the coking output to the minimum in a technological basis. And as I said, this can lead to extreme solutions, so some of the assets may no longer have a reason to exist.

We see this as an opportunity for us. The fact that we're not deviating from our contracts or shirking our responsibilities under our contractual rearrangements, we're showing that you—they can rely on us both in Europe and outside of Europe, as we maximize coking coal, so coke production. So we're acting at the maximum we're gonna be. As long as we have a physical sales capabilities for our coke, we'll continue to act this way. And when these other producers aren't able to withstand this competition, we're able to withstand the competition. This is an opportunity for us, maybe not in the short term, but certainly in the medium to long term. So if over the long period of time, we're gonna have the same relations, ratios of prices, well, then we can say that not everybody is gonna be able to perform on this market.

JSW, as a large, strong group in the longer term, can win. Maybe I won't talk about the details, but in Europe, we already see things like this happening, that next year we'll have the ability to sell several hundred thousand more tons into European steel plants, 'cause we're gradually taking over orders that were previously fulfilled by other coking plants, and we'll do that as JSW. Thank you. Another question that is replicated many times is about ArcelorMittal decision. How important is it that they are suspending their operations in Kraków? So what sort of things can happen with the output. This is something we anticipated. This was information reported yesterday, and so it was quite strongly reported in the media.

I can tell you the following thing: as the management of JSW, having a strategic, buyer in the form of ArcelorMittal and ArcelorMittal, which has a local supplier of coking coal, a strategic one, the largest one of coking coal. Well, we have very close relations, very good partnership relations, and we talk about these type of situations and have been doing so for a longer period of time. And as a group, as the management, we're fully aware of what's happening. And this is not information that surprises us. Perhaps it was published yesterday, but I'm not authorized to speak about the details. What I can say and calm you, that we've been talking about this for a longer period of time, and there's a single direction here.

While certain ideas have been put in place, certain solutions, which should allow us, with the volumes we had in the long-term contract, which we reported the fact that we signed a new contract with ArcelorMittal until 2028, with a specific volume. This is a long-term contract. While this level will be maintained in the volume for next year, despite this decision made by ArcelorMittal, the volumes of coal supply should be maintained from JSW. That's what I can tell you. Everything else is enshrouded in secrecy, commercial secrecy, in terms of the two largest companies in Europe, and certain solutions have been developed, and the purpose is for this cooperation to continue without any major difficulties. Thank you. Next question. About production. What's the production plan in Q3? And if this was different from the planned level, what was the reason? The production plan. We assume...

We assumed it was around 3.6 million tons, and it was slightly lower. It was roughly three point, 3.4 million. The reasons were mostly difficulties linked to operations and geological impediments in two mines and one section in Budryk. And we had some faults there. And so in MJ, we have difficult mining conditions in terms of what we find in the longwall and in Pniówek, we had some dislocations, and so this is linked to higher prevention activities with respect to methane. Thank you. How do you see the competitive position of JSW steam coal versus imported coal? What is the price ratio of these two products from the point of view of the final customer, incorporating all costs?

So starting from the back end, if we look at all of the costs, in our case, having in mind mines where the output grew in Szczygłowice and Budryk, it's very difficult to make a special calculation of the cost just for steam coal, because technically, technologically, geologically, it's not possible to produce only steam coal. And the strategy we show going through 2030 assumes that we'll always have a certain percentage of our production in the form of steam coal, which is kind of a byproduct and has a value in the market. So it'd be difficult to determine a separate cost for that. We have data to all of the costs. We give you the mining cash costs, or the combined cost, but we look at the costs of individual mines, it would be difficult to separate that, flesh that out and reflect only on steam coal.

If I remember the first part of the question, which is about the competitiveness of our coal versus others internationally. If we look at production in Poland, we can say that 2.5 million tons produced for JSW, for the steam coal, is a small position. We're, we're not the market maker or the price maker. Other entities are doing so. And so the national market has the following distinction, that we have contracts signed for annual periods with the commercial power sector players. And so we have the price conditions being set up for 2024, as was the case one year ago, that we had the conditions for 2023. And so if we're looking at what's happening and what might happen on the international market...

So we have spot prices, which can be quite volatile, and so the price might be $120, and as one year ago, we had a price of $300. So it's very difficult to find some sort of competitiveness here, since you have an annual contract. Where we have some average indices, we have predictions of what's gonna happen for, on these indices for future periods, and on the other hand, you have large commercial power players where the coal purchase is for them a major cost. It's very difficult to say anything about a very strong correlation. Well, the contract is signed, it's performed over the course of a year, and we have to assume that international, international prices can move upwards, can move downwards. And so if this price deviation is substantial, then the parties can always sit down and negotiate.

This is what happened in 2022, where those contracts were renegotiated and prices were raised for JSW because the international prices had jumped up so strongly that some of those contracts. Well, all of those contracts were renegotiated by the coal suppliers to the sector, commercial power sector. The next question is about methane. When we'll be able to learn about the rate for the methane types? Ladies and gentlemen, the talks being held in the Council of Europe, the European Parliament, and well, as we've seen from the media, well, there's the methane regulation that has been published, and based on the information from the Parliament, we can say that there's a ban from 1 January 2025 on the issuance of these things, and so certain regulations should be implemented in terms of...

To ensure that this ban on emissions and the ventilation or ventilated air is properly handled. So if we look at the financial side of things, nothing's changed. The regulation doesn't speak on that subject. The duty of every member state is to embrace regulations and define those rates. Based on the information we have today, we don't know what those, that rate would be. Thank you. The next question: How can we explain the market situation in October 2023, when the coke price, so a product that's more sophisticated, is lower than coking coal? Well, we've already responded to that question. It's not just a matter of October, it's a matter of what's happened over a long period of time. The relationship is not very, very favorable to coke. In October, we can say that the extreme showed up. It was a very extreme situation.

If you look just at the numbers, that coal was quoted substantially higher than blast furnace coke, and that's a product that takes a lot more effort to produce. And so October was out exceptional or clearly showed that. But this is a situation we've been dealing with for a longer period of time. The question is: What is the underlying reason or cause? Well, we've already said that we have the coking... Well, we can say coking market is quite different. Only 5% is actually out for sale on the open market, so there's 30 million tons on the market. And so if the demand falls, then the prices fall, and merchant integrated players work primarily for their steel mills, and so, and that's justified by, for steel mills, that they reduce the amount of coal they buy from the outside world.

So that's the first element contributing to this, and this is primarily happening in Europe. The second thing is the relatively low level of coke price. We're talking about the Chinese market. Well, this is caused by totally different factors. China, following the geopolitical changes, having in mind the Ukrainian conflict, and then, since Russia isn't sending commodities, commodities to Ukraine and to EU, well, this means that commodities flow totally different. And so they have much more and cheaper coal from Russia and Mongolia than the official indices and Australian producers. So China has less expensive coal, and this is a result of a shift in the geopolitical arrangement, and that's why in China, things can be much lower. And so our coking plants are unable to generate a positive margin....

We're talking about blast furnace coke, and things are a little bit different from foundry coke producers, but that's something totally different. But even with cheaper coal inputs, Chinese cokers aren't generating positive returns, so the prices are low. So there's no pressure on semi-soft, but there is pressure on the hard coking coal, like in Australia, because the supply is limited. And the major beneficiary or driver of this price is the Indian market, 'cause India needs this commodity in large quantities, and so there's no downward price pressure. And of course, this is something that will evolve week by week, day by day. But, so that's why hard coking coal continues to have a very buoyant price level. Well, there are many other factors. These are the three major factors. Where, whereas the Indian market, which is rise, raising prices for coking coal.

And then we have the merchant cokers in Europe and China that are not able to sell their coke, or maybe they don't have less expensive inputs, and that's why the relationship, price relationship is totally distorted. This is not just October; this is a situation that's been going on for a longer period of time. I think this should suffice as a response. Thank you. So the next question about production. What is the production potential for coking coal and steam coal over now and over the next three years? What is the production plan for 2024, 2026, in terms of reaching the strategy of having more than 16 million tons in 2030? So ladies and gentlemen, as we know, our strategy was approved at the beginning of 2022.

After it was approved, we had the mine accidents in two mines, in Zofiówka and in Pniówek. In previous reports and conferences, we talked about that after analyzing the impact of these events, and we said that for the next two years, we will suffer the impact of that, and that's still happening. And so in 2024, we're actually doing some of the analysis for that year, looking at the plans. If we look at extraction level or the mine output, we continue to maintain that by the end of that production period, that we should be up to 16 million tons. Thank you. The next question is linked to CapEx. What are your expectations in terms of CapEx for 2024? Higher, lower, similar to 2023? As I mentioned, when we talk about investments today...

Well, if you combine this with the previous question, we're analyzing this subject because this is the market environment, and certain things will have an impact on that. So the CapEx will be aligned to continuing our investments in this year. So most investments are of a strategic nature. And so this is all about the future of the company and gaining access to new areas, and that's why the investments will be made. So I would say it's probably gonna be close to the same level. Thank you. Now, there's a question about the windfall tax. Is it possible that it's still gonna be enforced and may be assessed in 2024? So looking at the current laws, this should not take place in 2024. Thank you. Then we have another question about the short-term goal of 14 million tons of production in 2023.

Are you maintaining its guidance in terms of the production in 2023? Ladies and gentlemen, at present, as you know, we had talked about the force majeure in one of our mines, and from the combined mine of Knurów-Szczygłowice, well, we had a fire there. And that means that we had to seal a longwall for a certain period of time, and that we couldn't produce the production from that. Longwall is important. And that's why in 2023, we'll be under twenty... Or we'll be under 14 million tons in terms of our, the, our output. Now, we have another question for costs: How do you intend to reduce your OpEx? So when you're in a mining company, working underground, and... You have to have conditions for people and machines to work.

We are a capital-intensive, energy-intensive, labor-intensive industry, and so all of the things that we have in our strategy, we're doing what we can to reduce the costs or optimize processes, which are there to lead to, relatively speaking, lower OpEx. This work is being done so that in terms of removing methane or main methane drainage from associated mines. So we want to be able to capture that methane and then use the energy, and that would replace the energy we buy from elsewhere. This is an example of that activity being taken. Then we have building central air conditioning unit, which should make it possible for our employees to work underground. We have high temperatures underground, and in certain borderline conditions, it's not possible to conduct mining operations at all.

And so having, basically air conditioning units means that we can extend the working hours of our people and machinery, and this is part of our CapEx now and in the future. And so we also have the passive capacity and other elements, efforts that we're taking to optimize costs and also the amount of our CapEx. And so having more machines underground, what this means, that we have more automated production. It's supported by machines, and that means in subsequent years, maybe it won't have a direct impact on reducing costs, but it should improve production, and that should mean that we'll have higher per capita output. And so a lot of things are being done here as we attempt to build our own generation of assets and renewable energy sources, and that means that we should make savings on electricity costs.

And let me remind you that the costs of PLN 250 million-PLN 260 million per quarter. So these type of initiatives will certainly, at the end of the day, allow us to optimize and reduce our costs. Thank you. Many investors are asking about the dividend, maybe not from 2022, but from 2023 to be paid out in 2024. Well, the question is: Could our stabilization fund be used to pay out a dividend in 2024? So the essence of setting up our closed-ended fund was clearly defined and communicated. The funds here, that when we have very good market conditions, that we invest the money for this rainy day fund to make it possible for the company and the groups, and the companies in the group to continue their operations.

We saw something like that happening in 2020, 2021, when we had a COVID. So the money from that fund were used for that purpose. But the articles of association of that fund don't allow or don't contemplate the utilization of these funds for the purpose of paying a dividend itself. Thank you. Now, a question about production. Could I ask for an update about, is it realistic to generate 2.5 million tons of output over the next few years? Or is it possible that new geological problems would make it impossible to increase the run rate, and most of the OpEx could be lost, and it would be necessary to set up additional, loan loss provisions, or, well, provisions or allowances? So we've spoken many times about the complicated tectonics of this deposit at present.

If we look at the surveys being done, so in geological nomenclature, we can say this is A and B, so this gives you a 10%-20% error rate. So the information we get from that, that unfortunately, generating 2.5 million tons per annum is not possible. And so the surveys and this approach were the basis for changing how this is organization, what was originally as a standalone mine, and that's why it became one of the sections of a three-section mine. And above all, this enables us to look at costs and CapEx differently, and we are reducing it to the level that the conditions allow us to do.

So we continue to do analyses, and in order to utilize that, all of the CapEx to the maximum in terms of all the CapEx that we've incurred thus far, to ensure that we'll be able to have a rational approach to this scene. The next question is about expectations for 2024. What are your assumptions about mining cash cost. The trade unions are asking for 1% above inflation increase, and what do you think about energy costs in 2024 versus 2023? As I said previously, all of the analysis is being done now, such that we can put together this plan for 2024. If we think about the request of the social parties, the management met through the steering committee, and this motion was discussed, and that's why further analysis is being done, having in mind the plans for 2024.

If we look at energy prices, generally speaking, at present, we assume that costs will grow by 15% in total. So this is energy cost plus distribution. So the weighted average cost will be around PLN 720 per MWh, and this would be up by PLN 123 per MWh over the current price. Thank you very much. Those are all the questions that we received. If those are all the questions, I'm sure that some new questions might arise or might be submitted, and so our IR relations, Investor Relations office, will await your questions and will respond to your questions. So if that's it, I'd like to thank you very cordially.

I'd like to thank the employees of the company for preparing this conference, the results conference, and we wanted to present the situation of the company, and I think that's what we've done today. Having in mind all these difficulties and the various difficulties that we face as a company, we want to show you that we have a stable company, that we have a view on what's happening externally, internally, and the profit that we generated, nearly PLN 1 billion, shows the strength of this company, and that the monies that we have on a separate account, and so we'll always have difficulties. But the main thing is for us to be able to react on a timely basis and for us to make do with the market. Thank you very much for today's conference.

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